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90% of China is vaccinated but 80% has been infected? Why do you think that is?

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/21/china-says-covid-outbreak-has-infected-80percent-of-population.html

90% of China is vaccinated but 80% has been infected? Why do you think that is?
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  • MrOracle
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    The "vaccine" isn't really a vaccine - it was marketed that way to increase compliance, but the fact is that current estimates are that it is 6% effective at preventing infection - that's negligible. Everyone from Fauci on down sold it as preventing infection (and mutation) initially, and over time, backed way off from that position. Eventually, they settled on describing it as "reducing the severity of symptoms if infected".

    Of course, they neglected to tell anyone that they had no long-term studies about the effects of the "vaccine", and now we're having otherwise healthy people drop over dead and people's veins full of blood clots several feet long. Many people tried to warn the public of these things, but all discussion that went against the official narrative were censored and people banned and canceled.

    At least you can sleep easy knowing that the drug companies secured complete immunity from all legal responsibility, so they can't be held accountable...

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  • Weapon77
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    Thr vaccine only reduces severity of symptoms. It can't prevent spreading. That's why the whole vaccine debeate is ridiculous. Only unhealthy people should be taking it to try to not die, while the rest of us healthy people should not waste our time since we'll be fine if we catch it. The primary focus should be on not getting infected by not being a nasty fuck lmao And Chinese people are typically healthier than Americans anyway, so I'm not shocked 80% of them have been infected but they haven't all died.

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  • OlderAndWiser u
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    You cannot trust any statistics provided by the Communist Chinese government.

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  • Levin
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    Okay, I'm a bit fascinated by this number of 60000 covid deaths in China. It's a figure I've heard cited before.

    I mean, I don't profess to have done any more than a quick google search here, so by all means, someone correct me.

    But China has a population of 1.4 billion.

    According to google , 5000 odd people have died in China of covid. Now we're hearing a figure of 60000.

    Lastly, 10 million people die in China every year of all causes.

    Do you kind of see what I'm getting at here?

    Figures have no meaning out of context. And this is what we saw during the pandemic. People shat themselves at raw death numbers, but people die, all the time, oddly enough.

    Presuming that those people died in a year. I know they didn't, but just a quick demonstration. 60000 / 10000000 = 0.006. My maths is shit, and obviously taking into account that those figures won't be in a year, but that's what the proportion of total deaths is in China of covid. 0.006% .

    Again, maybe I'm thick, and I make no profession of analysing the figures if at all. But come on, am I missing something here?

    This is what they destroyed peoples' lives for in China and the rest of the world.

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    • NamerOfStars
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      You may or may not be thick, but you ARE mistaken; you don't calculate a disease's lethality by diving deaths by the number of people who died; that only gives you a fraction of the picture. If the government decides your social credit score is too low and puts a bullet through your head, you're equally dead REGARDLESS of your Covid status.

      You calculate it by diving Covid deaths by Covid INFECTIONS. Assuming a population of 1.4 billion and an infected rate of 80% gives us 1.12 billion infections. Now, assuming that every last person who died in China died of Covid (not an unreasonable assumption, given how OTHER governments determined what constitutes a "Covid death"), we divide sixty thousand by 1.2 billion and get a CFR of 0.000053571%. In the rest of the world, the Covid IFR appears to be about 0.035%-0.35% (using the flawed methods most of the world used), or somewhat less than chicken pox. In China, Covid is (officially, anyway) less lethal than stubbing your toe.

      It doesn't matter; the conclusion people will parrot is either "that shows that lockdowns work!" or "that shows the shots work!". There's no logic involved at all.

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    • Levin
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      @NamerOfStars well yes, except I wasn't trying to calculate a disease's technical lethality, of maybe I was by proxy, but rather, trying to put the number of deaths into context of other things that may potentially kill you. Like, if they had a rolling cumulative figure of cancer deaths every day flashing in red on the news supported by uber dramatic music, then people might be a bit terrified of cancer. Which incidentally, is seemingly infinitely more likely to kill you. And yes , all of the statistics are highly dubious and questionable.

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  • Truthatanycost
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    As long as most people keep the lie alive by referring to these carefully crafted bio weapons as 'vaccines' this will continue, and more of the population will die. The truth never changes no matter how much mental gymnastics, shaming, lying, coercing, blocking, deleting, complaining or attacking others do. This is the thing about the truth... facts simply do not care about feelings!

    I know people that took more booster shots in order to convince themselves that it's a 'vaccine'. They try to shape their reality to fit into the lie but the truth does not care and in time, they will become very ill.

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  • NamerOfStars
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    Because the "vaccines" don't prevent infection, or spreading. We've known that for over a year now, and many of us have suspected for far longer. It's almost as though not taking the time to properly develop, let alone TEST, a new medical treatment means it not work properly- who would've thought?

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  • TheVigilantFox
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    The reason why all vaccinated people are getting sick and dying is because it’s not a vaccine it’s a bio-weapon meant to destroy the immune system and cause death, look at all the “sudden deaths” all the heart attacks and cancers it’s all due to this bio-weapon being falsely labeled a vaccine.

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  • Guy13
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    Population reduction. Virus 🦠 and vaccine kills.

    Thailand was only country with zero infected in the beginning. And then, they bought the Chinese vaccine. One month later the country shut down. It took Pfizer giving millions of free shots away to get pandemic there under control.
    China is BAD….

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    • Akam93
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      @Guy13 that's what I keep saying it's all about population control.

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    • Guy13
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      @Akam93 I'm dying. 180 emails here. that amount daily at work. bitching and moaning Regular job 3am...

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  • AviatorTom
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    The COVID vaccine is not the typical vaccine that is designed to prevent the disease. Instead, iit's designed to reduce the effects of the disease. Hence, one can get vaccinated and still get COVID... like I did, with reduced symptoms.

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    • Juxtapose
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      That's been my understanding of what it's supposed to do, unless the deep state is more involved than I thought and it is a population reduction measure.

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    • Juxtapose
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      All the lies surrounding it make me very suspicious.

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  • exitseven
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    I heard that the boosters actually reduce the immune system and people do not have a good defense against new variables of Covid.

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    • Juxtapose
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      You are absolutely right. The shots are a population reduction mechanism.

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  • RolandCuthbert
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    Only you could make the claim that the vaccine stops you from getting the virus.

    In fact, vaccinated people can spread Covid to others.

    But finally, since when did we start trusting anything coming out of China. They lied throughout this entire affair. They probably have millions dead. But we will never know. At present, they claim only 2 million dead. And they probably passed that two years ago.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/how-accurate-are-chinas-covid-19-death-numbers-2022-12-22/

    So no doubt that 90% is probably closer to 45%.

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    • Juxtapose
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      I'm not making any claim like that you goof, jfc 😣

      I'm telling you guys that the covidians were fucking wrong about the vaccine preventing transmission but I guess your memory is too short for you to remember them saying that and mandating various things because of that claim.

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    • RolandCuthbert
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      You are making a claim. You claim that China is 80% vaccinated. . . a claim no rational thinking person believes.

      Then you are making the claim that breakthrough cases do not exist. Or at least making the claim that "we" believe in such nonsense.

      I mean, dude, why the fuck would we think we have to quarantine and mask up if we thought the vaccine stopped transmission?

      Get your lying shit straightened out at least.

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    • Juxtapose
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      You're a stupid fuck xD I provided the source, suck my cock.

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    • RolandCuthbert
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      Yeah, I don't care about your sources. No rational human being thinks the Chinese government is telling the truth. Where is your youtube video. . . youtube man?

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    • Juxtapose
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      CNBC you dumb fuck 🤭

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  • lightbulb27
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    they used their vaccine, I hear not as effective. I heard fewer were vaccinated than 80%.

    Vaccine doesn't prevent one from getting the virus, it prevents more serious illness... giving time for the virus to be "watered down" on its own so is less dangerous. Hopefully it doesn't turn into a more dangerous variety.

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  • DryGermanGuy m
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    China only allowed domestic vaccines and these have been proven to have a low efficacy. They totally screwed up their reopening strategy, jumping from one extreme to the other. Lastly, the medical system outside of larger cities is sorely lacking and thus overwhelmed.

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  • jshm2
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    Because China was stupid not to buy in various variant vaccines when it had the chance to.

    It's made the same stupid mistake Trump made. Plus, by burying it's head in the sand and hoping it's whack-a-mole strategy will work it's adding to the worlds problems. .

    Vaccination means little if it's not targeting the right variant.

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  • xJeremyx
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    Their vaccination figures are bullcrap. Their vaccine is also bullcrap.

    I worked as a COVID-19 vaccinator at a public vaccination centre before and I can safely say, the chinese-made vaccines suck compared to the mRNA ones.

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  • Zayed_
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    I don’t think that vaccines 💉 are of any use because it has proved along the years that it’s just a business strategy for governmental profits.

    The Spanish flu didn’t go away because of vaccinations, It went away because it took its toll and went.

    ask any genuine doctor and he will tell you that a virus 🦠 can’t be cured unlike bacteria.

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    • Juxtapose
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      Vaccines took out smallpox though.

  • Dargil
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    Because the vaccines are ineffective and before they exposed COVID to the world, they didn't have an effective one. I love China's karma on this. Trump's "Chinese Virus is killing Chinese and crippling their economy. Good.

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  • OfDeath
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    The chinese vaccines are not as effective as the European made ones. The vaccines also don't prevent one from contracting covid, they just make it easier to recover from by introducing a harmless form of the virus or RNA with the snip code for the virus depending on which vaccine was given.

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  • D_Bone_Steak
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    A vaccine that doesn't really vaccinate. Well, at least my Polio vaccination seems to work. 😂

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  • TheSpaceGnome
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    Could be a number of things.
    While I suspect the numbers aren't accurate, neither is their "vaccine".
    Flu like viruses mutate too fast to vaccinate against.

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  • GoodGuyBreakingBad
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    Something isn't right with China, I don't trust the China government, no offense to anyone.

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  • cth96190
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    Because the vaccine is not a vaccine.
    It is a bioweapon that is intended to kill us.

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  • Msputiton
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    Being vaccinated doesn't mean you can't catch it or even lowers your chances of catching it.

    It makes your chances of getting really sick or dying less.

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  • OddBeMe
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    Learning simple science about variant viruses that need new vaccines could make you look less like an idiot.

    Not sure why we get that flu vaxxes update. But raise hell over Covid vax updates. Fcking morons.

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    • Juxtapose
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      It's almost like it doesn't fucking work and it's all bullshit 🤭

      I'll take my natural immunity over that clotshot any day.

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    • Juxtapose
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      Have fun getting your 17th booster when they come out with the next variant.

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    • OddBeMe
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      Why do people accept that the flu shot gets updated. But when Covid gets updated, it’s proof of a vast conspiracy?

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    • Juxtapose
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      Who the fuck takes the flu shot?

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    • OddBeMe
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      Same amount that took the Covid vax. Never enough

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    • Juxtapose
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      Natural immunity is better.

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    • OddBeMe
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      Even if waiting for it causes a million Americans to die?

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    • Juxtapose
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      If it prevents a forced vaccination program then fuck yeah.

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    • OddBeMe
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      Shouldn’t we force waiters to wash their hands in restaurant bathrooms? That’s a law. How’s it diff?

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    • Juxtapose
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      I don't think that should be a law but restaurants where they don't watch their hands should be clearly advertised as such and customers should be given warnings.

      We are a country that is suffocating under numerous laws that really don't have to be there.

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    • Juxtapose
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      *where they don't wash

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    • Juxtapose
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      Also, washing my hands does not inject poison into my veins.

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    • OddBeMe
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      So govt shouldn’t have any laws. We’ll self regulate. That’s ridiculous.

      And not washing hands then touching face, eating food will put germs into your blood stream.

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  • Lionman95
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    Because the statistics in China are messed up. I´d assume that it´s not 90% that are vaccinated or they got a bad vaccine.

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  • LaFemmeFatale_1
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    I am in China, I think almost everyone caught a virus painlessly, because they are vaccinated.

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  • PatriceONeal
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    Don't believe what the self labeled CCP. Chinese Communist Party tells you. Communism has never worked and never will. It only ever ends in millions of dead innocent lives.

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  • Randalama
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    Similar to the west as far as I understand, the exception being that they got it last, being the country of origin and all.

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  • Likes2drive
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    Because the vaccine doesn’t completely protect you against it but the symptoms are not as bad or deadly

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  • TallAnon
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    Vacination does not prevent infection, it gets the body used to the effects so you won't die when you do get infected.

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  • This_Is_My_Opinion8
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    The COVID vaccine is to prevent deaths not spreading. Besides, most of those infections happened before there was a vaccine.

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  • izzyaheorashe
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    This is not even a matter fpr question. You must not be paying attention. They dont like you to know but even the pfizer documents released show possible side affects as " covid " true story. Lol

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  • Kelly6
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    i dont understand the meaning of question. nothing odd about that

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  • AngryCarl2
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    You can't believe anything you hear from China.

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  • Aiko_E_Lara
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    You can still get infected even if you're vaccinated but it doesn't affect you

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  • Jerre
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    I think the 90 vaccinated is probably 80% higher than the actual number vaccinated.

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  • Twalli
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    Their vaccine isn't as effective as our's, and it started there

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    Because they play too much Pokémon GO

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  • RavVid
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    The cheap Chinese vaccine didn't work.

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    Their vaccines may not be so good. # MADEINCHINA

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  • Telekinetic-Potato
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    Probably because by 80% they mean 20%

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    . makes sense.

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  • madgoat
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    90% seems very high. Are you sure that's right?

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    something strange is going down..

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    They added some virus to the vaccine

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    They are responsible

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      If you consider suffocating tyranny to be responsible then sure.

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    Vaccines are mad and screwed.

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    The CCP

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    Because the vaccine is made out of crap

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    10% of invected got it 😂

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