
Vacxcines are Not as Good as they Say, Paris!
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I told you to look down below lol vaccinated people are going through ADE anti dependent enhancement for every vaccine and booster it’s tearing down their immune system by 25-75% boosters are speeding up the poison. Vaccinated people are literally walking sponges that will get every virus and variant due to no protection or immunity from their own immune system which they don’t have anymore.. every vaccinated person I know is sick with autoimmune issues , joint and muscle flare ups, foggy thinking, aggressive, and angry all the time , and sick.. don’t forget the myocarditis and heart inflammation
They will continue to get sick what they vaccine was intended to do.. it didn’t protect them it’s killing them slowly..
Former Medical Assistant 10 years
is that fact? I don't know any vaccinated with those symptoms.
others in the field seem to accept it, support it, encourage. it's confusing for all us. minimize use makes sense to me.
you may be right, but is the vaccine helping to lower severity of symptoms and keep people out of hospital, or is it lowering immune response so that more vaccinated end up in hospitals?
If that latter, then we are sitting on a time bomb...
Your talking bollox vaccine's don't replace the immune system they give the body a taste of a virus in an inactive state so the body learns how to deal with the real thing naturally. Yes the new variants are finding there ways past the vaccines but there is still a level of protection there. If the effectiveness of the vaccines gets too low then they will have to reformulate to protect better.
@lightbulb27 Neither do I! The disinformation is getting pretty thick on this one...
@lightbulb27 It's the former. No sound evidence for the latter.
The only ones getting sick are the vaccinated and they will just because I’m a former medical worker doesn’t mean shyt @Johnnyfixit I quit my job because I wasn’t taking that poison or giving it to anyone.. only ones dropping dead are you vaccinated people.. I have to keep my kids away from you people
Lol pure insanity
@integrale77 you're being trolled by a russian bot lmao
I’m vaccinated, have COVID and my symptoms have been really mild so the vaccine does work. 4 of my friends, who are also vaccinated, got COVID and they also had mild flu like symptoms.
While the vaccine may not protect you from getting COVID per say, it should protect you from getting severe symptoms that could result in hospitalization or worse.
@sean1234 covid doesn’t exist so you’re saying there’s millions of people that banned together to play a joke or are gaining something by faking this pandemic and are they just doing this to mess with just you and really the whole worlds in on it or are they play you and your buddies that scared of needles
I mean really what would be the point of faking the pandemic who would gain from it
@humpbackjack No sense arguing with these people. I'm an epidemiologist and It just makes me smh when I hear so many people believe anything but the truth.
And @sean1234 Here's a fact: Before the vaccines were approved EVERYONE was unvaccinated and LOT's of people got it! They got sicker than hell, died, or had organ damage or other long-lasting health issues. I lost friends, and the ones who survived had a horrible time of it. There's no such thing? Man, you should really THNK before spouting that kind of nonsense.
Like I said to others, the truth is that they got sick lets say before the vaccine from something, but it was not covid 19 there are MANY sicknesses that have covid like symptoms. Doctors are either getting paid off, brainwashed of these falsifies, or their licenses are taken away from being REAL doctors and diagnosing people with what sicknesses they actually have.. All I hear everywhere from people in person that they got sick from the shot, that they were better before it, that when someone gets sick from anything, covid is to blame, anyone dies from anything, covid is to blame. The governments (leaders/presidents etc...) who all bow to the Vatican, have a lot to gain, aside from not being executed for not going along with the plan. I can't even imagine how you people can be soo blind, your either are blind or are in on it. The proof is around me soo much, I practically find it be accident, me and many others. I mean which PROOF should I give you, the ones, statistics, videos from Africa, UK, Germany? etc?
@sean1234 my best friend lost both of her unvaxed parents due to COVID so please don’t spread false lies. They were both hospitalized for one month before passing. I also lost my first cousin to COVID. COVID is very much real.
@sean1234 the only reason most people die from being on a ventilator is because by the time a patient is on the ventilator their chance of making it is low due to them needing it for life support. The machine itself is not killing patients. The patients were close to the end before that.
2 of my sisters are Respiratory Therapsits and everything you’re saying is wrong lol. The ventilator doesn’t kill. The reason patients tend to die on it is bc by the time you’re on it it’s too late as it is. @sean1234
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P, I'm sure you know at least most of these, but I'll run the list - - - - -
1. There is an inherent problem with the time delay from infection- to contagious- to feeling REALLY bad- getting treatment- not being contagious but still getting better- being "fine" in all respects except a little extra mucus/tiredness which can linger for weeks, if not months, afterward.
2. The "vaccines" used so far do NOT prevent infection with the virus (es), and only help make infections less severe.
3. Viruses mutate! It's a fact of (viral) life! A drug that fights one may not/will not fight another. Example: flu shots. Scientists and doctors take their "best guess" each year from a variety of inputs, and if the "flu combo shot" for that year is over 50% effective- that is, if it's effective against at least half of the specific viruses targeted- THAT is a REALLY GREAT YEAR!
4. A "fully vaccinated and boosted" person who runs around with no regard to his own safety and that of others can be just as likely to infect others as a non-vaccinated person who is very diligent and safe about their movements. ref time of exposure, et al.
4A. Don't let vaccination- thus far, really a treatment, not a preventative- lead you into a false sense of security. This is (arguably) the reason for the high incidence of the vaccinated being able to re-infect others- they over-trust the meds and just don't take any responsibility. They can get hung in the "I'm vacc'ed- (therefore) I'm safe and I'm invincible" line of thinking. It's just not that way.
Good points all around, but don't lose sight of perhaps the most important thing he mentioned: vaccines make infections less severe.
if the anti-vax folks want to sign a waiver saying they won't seek medical/hospital treatment when they contract covid, that would seem like a reasonable trade-off for their scientifically retarded decision making.
@nachosaresexy I thought I mentioned that at #2.
@Massageman yepper. read my reply again.
@nachosaresexy It's not retarded if the vaccines don't work any better than aspirin.
Vaccines don’t prevent contraction of the virus, they prevent infection, or at least serious infection. As the virus mutates, there are new variants, and it seems that they get more contagious but less serious in severity of infection, which could actually be good news, overall. This omicron one that’s spiking now is super-contagious, but again, seems to be less severe. We’re in a weird place where the pandemic is still going on but we’re trying to live around it the best we can, just with precautions and some restrictions. Depending on the state you live in, the precautions and restrictions will vary, as will the attitudes of the residents. Florida has famously just let it rip, and people are still having fun, but they’re having a bad explosion of the virus and are wondering why the government can’t send them the lion’s share of the treatments, and the counterargument I guess is that it’s tough to not have enough for other places that might need it too when you’re taking the least precaution and setting yourself up for this result. Complex political situation. But anyway, some people are eager to travel, maybe to places like Florida where they’re more free to have their fun, and maybe they do, but they come home with Covid, knowingly or unknowingly, and now they’ve exposed everyone all over the place, most notably airports, which can spread it across the country. Lord knows we all argue about what should or shouldn’t be done enough already, don’t need to do it again here, haha, but the fact remains that it’s a virus that spreads, often causes symptoms, people are being tested like crazy, but yet still tons of people probably DON’T get tested and just either shrug it off as another illness, and then go about their lives, probably Un-cautiously as it concerns other people, further spreading it. Again, we don’t need to bicker over the degree to which we should or shouldn’t lock down and hide in our homes til this is over, but the fact is, whether you think it’s serious or not, the bare facts are that it is a virus and it operates the way viruses operate, period. Non-debatable, haha. So whether someone is vaccinated or not, it’s spreading around, and will continue to, and we’ll all either naturally adapt to it through immunity or we’ll need periodic immunizations like we have for many other infectious viruses and diseases. My aunt got it and gave it to my dad at Christmas (Merry Christmas!😂), and they’re both relatively fine despite being ill and being in their 80s, because they were vaccinated. I might be burying one of them this week if not for that🙏🙏🙏
I agree with most of this except your terminology in the first sentence. I think they still get infected.
Also, who's the say those people aren't taking the virus TO Florida? Are the airlines requiring a negative test? Or are they just requiring the passengers to be vaccinated/masked?
@Jamie05rhs yeah, def could’ve worded that better…. I should’ve said “symptomatic infection.”
Also a very fair point about travelers bringing Covid to Florida as well as contracting it there. Absolutely can happen, and I haven’t flown and don’t know anyone who has since all this started, so I can’t speak on airline protocols, but I don’t think I’ve heard they require passenger testing. Airlines ain’t turning away any paying customers, at least not until you board and you fuck up so they throw you off and can keep your money😂
@WhiteSteve Lol. True. Also, people need to learn to act like adults when they're on the airplane. I'm utterly shocked when I see all of these people having these immature outbursts and trying to fight each other and the flight attendants. It's entirely unnecessary.
@Jamie05rhs did you see the one the other day where the lady was flipping out on the guy for not wearing a mask, all while hers is down underneath her chin, and then she SPIT at the guy, not to mention slapped him in the face. I don’t love that he wasn’t wearing a mask either, but holy shit, lady, A) get a flight attendant for that if it’s a problem for you, and B) don’t be in violation of the same spirit of the very same rule you’re freaking out over being violated🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@WhiteSteve What? She SPIT at him? Yeah, that's real helpful... 🙄
by the way, did you see my comment on the question about book titles?
@Jamie05rhs saw it now. I’m into it😂👍
Thanks! Lol
Wow...
So,... technically, he was right. He didn't have to put his mask on while he was eating. BUT... he could have been a considerate gentleman and just stopped eating for a moment and put his mask on to make the woman feel more comfortable. She was only going to be sitting there temporarily until the cart rolled by.
That's kinda the theme of my book haha. "Calm The Fuck Down, People!". It just means try to be gracious and understanding of others while we all try to navigate the challenges of this pandemic together. At the end of the day, we're all still neighbors and we should try to love each other.
@Jamie05rhs can’t put it much better than that, man👍👏
Thanks!
Because there are an all time record of people getting tested, and some might argue they are getting tested unnecessarily. We were all told to get Vaxed and we would be good, and we were all told that just because we got vaxed did not mean that we would not still catch or carry COVID. Getting Vaxed just meant we would be 10 x times more likely not to sick or display symptoms.
Please remember that 99% of people exposed to COIVD never got sick or displayed symptoms to begin with. So getting vaxed just means you are like 99.99% less likely to get sick or display symptoms.
Right now there are only 825K who have died from COIVD in the USA out of 56 million cases... so that.015% of the test positive that's tied die. That's only one and one-half percent of the test positives that have died. 56 million is only 17% if the the total population, and a test positive doesn't even mean you have displayed symptoms or are even sick. So out of that 17% only.015 have died, less than 5% gave been hospitalized so that leaves over 10% of the test positives scratching their heads wondering what the big deal is?
Consider there is a population of 329.5 million in the USA... that means roughly only 17% of the population has tested positive and only which means.0025% of the population has or would die from the COVID. That's like two hundredths of a percent of the total population, with less than 1% having been hospitalized. So that leaves roughly 300million Americans scratching our heads trying to figure out what the big deal is?
So the answer to the your question is simple vaxed or not vaxed there is a 17% chance you will test positive and only.0025% of chance you will die of COVID and those numbers have remained pretty consistent through out this entire Pandemic and that's the the science and numbers behind it... and ever real scientist in the country know it, to include Doctor Fuaci.
The real issue is why are the hospitals so under equipped to handle it when the medical industry grossed over 31 Billion last year in the USA? That when we have been told that this capitalist system is better than a universal healthcare system? And when the shit hit fan why did everyone expect government to fix it when we passed on universal healthcare?
Vaccines are like the equivalent of putting on a winter hat on a cold day with sub-freezing temperatures. They help a little, but they won't fully stop you from getting cold. That's why booster shots are a thing with any vaccine. It's ALSO why no other vaccine in history has been mandated and forced upon people like this COVID vaccine has been. Literally NO. OTHER. F*CKING. VACCINE. has been treated like this in human history. And sadly, some people are still too moronic to smell the money trail and the BS stench it's leaving behind.
The far-left and it's sheep are quick to label anyone who doesn't want this COVID vaccine an "anti-vaxxer" (real original) even if we've taken every other vaccine in our lives that prevent far deadlier illnesses than this one, that have far few side-effects if any, and aren't actually killing people. These past vaccines also had the proper testing and research involved and didn't have a trail of propaganda and censorship behind them.
Regardless, I'd be hesitant if Biden was trying to force people to get the Flu vaccine under threats as well. As I said before, politicians and government are too dense to know how to use reverse psychology, so I seriously have my doubts on these COVID vaccines, especially since medical professionals are being censored and fired for speaking out against them.
It's bad stuff... Actuarial data suggests the experimental vaccines are killing and maiming people at a faster rate than in recorded history.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_71473b12-6b1e-11ec-8641-5b2c06725e2c.html
None of them have a statistically significant impact when it comes to defending against COVID. It was obvious that that would be the case before they were even released. I could see it and warned against it repeatedly, so I know the people that made it and regulated it could see it... Thus they did it with purpose. It is an orchestrated cull and for some reason people line up for the gas chamber saying yes please with a smile hidden under their mask as they sign their waiver...


the COVID virus which is part of SARS also like SARS constantly morphs into something else. That is why there has never been a vac for SARS.
By the time they get one out it has morphed into something else which renders that vac ineffective. The same thing is now happening with COVID.
The vac that do have does not work on the new variants, but the government is so locked into what they have they just keep preaching it.
On our dept we are down 4 medics as of today.
One of them is his 4th time he has tested positive. We take precautions above and beyond what the CDC says and hopefully it has helped things from getting worse than they are now.
We are now going to our board to authorize more overtime so we can cover payroll. So many on our department are now working 48 hour shifts. Even one of our board members has tested positive and she is the most careful person I know.
She is always wearing a mask.
I'm not sure if the government will ever admit that they are like a dog chasing its tail with their current approach to eliminating COVID.
Aunt, vaccination is just a prevention not the cure. It only boosts our immunity in such a way that our body can't get affected easily. Doesn't means that it won't get affected at all. It doesn't make our body anti-covid but boosts our energy to deal with it for a long time. If people will act careless after vaccination then of course they will get covid as there is a limit to that power boost. It can protect us to some extent but not totally. It is happening nowadays as people think nothing will happen to them after vaccination and covid is reducing nowadays and omicron isn't that affective. Yeah vaccination is like a protection shield but that kind of shield which will break after getting hitted hardly. It can take hits till some extent. Vaccines that can totally prevent covid aren't discovered yet now.
Thanks for adding some well thought out words to this debate! One thing though- a lot of people are saying that vaccination makes you reckless. I would say there may be SOME truth to that, but what could be more reckless than refusing to get vaccinated then going out and whooping it up? Remember, it can take 5 to 6 days once you are infected for a ny symptoms to appear.
@Johnnyfixit Yeah Vaccines do have small side effects like having boils in the part where you got the needle or feeling weak but you feel weak because it is doing it's work. There is no serious issues like heart attack or cancer unless you don't have any medical issues. I don't blame those who can't get vaccination due to some medical issues or really can't make time or the vaccine is out of stock in their area but I don't have the most best impression for those who believe rumors rather than the real doctor. And Thank you!
The answer has already been published long long long ago in Medical Journals.
Vaccines weaken immune systems to strengthen them first. This normally works very well with inactivated "Cell-Based" Vaccines like the Influenza Vaccine where they help your B-Cells to identify and create Anti-Bodies to fight the Virus. The problem with COVID mRNA "vaccines" (gene therapy, a. k. a "antibody-dependent enhancement".) is that they produce inferior antibodies rather than the normal ones unvaccinated people's B-cells produce, this is what can happen if you are exposed to even a slight variant of the initial virus you were "vaccinated" against. This can be lethal in some cases by way of sepsis in multiple organs because the virus is left unchecked. This was observed in some studies. This is also why gene therapy, a. k. a "antibody-dependent enhancement"(mRNA "Vaccines") were never approved prior to 2020. The animal studies kept showing this lethal effect.
Quite simply, the vax does not stop you getting it. All it does is make it less likely to be hospitalised, and much less likely to die.
The UK has had just short of 220,000 cases in the last 24 hours, and about an average of 100 deaths a day.
The highest previous wave was about 60,000 cases a day, and several hundred deaths.
It is essential, where possible, to get two jabs and a booster. Most of the cases in UK hospitals, in ICU's, are unvaccinated. I appreciate that some people cannot be vaxed, but if all the rest of us get full vax, we can protect the others by approaching herd immunity.
ICU Nurse here.
The Omicron variant is pretty transmissible. That added to the fact that people may not be getting their boosters when they should could lead to increased numbers.
Also, the vaccine may not prevent a person from getting the virus, but it will prevent you from ending up in my ICU on a vent.
Her last point is salient. If you get the vaccine you are extremely unlikely to be hospitalized
That may be true, but like I said, the vaccine limits it's severity. If you're fully vaccinated, you'll likely not end up in the hospital.
All of my patients I currently have are unvaccinated. We've had a few vaccinated make it to my ICU (which isn't a good thing for obvious reasons) but all of them have since recovered and been discharged.
I'm still seeing unvaccinated people die. So I suggest everyone who can, get their shot and boosters. It can save your life.
Got my booster on Thursday
PLEASE, read this nurse's words (this post and her next one). She is absolutely correct. It's not surprising that in your ICU you are seeing more UNVACCINATED folks than vaccinated. The vaccine is doing its job. If you won't take it from an epidemiologist (me) then take it from a nurse in the trenches fighting this disease every day!
@Paris13 The point is this: The new variant is 4x more transmissible than the other variants which is the reason why cases are rising so fast, but it's not true that it's mainly vaccinated people that are getting infected versus unvaccinated. Also, if it seems that way to you, understand this- Omnicron can infect anyone regardless of vaccniated and unvaccinated alike. Now follow me here, it's about the power of numbers: In some places, the rate of vaccination has gotten pretty high, some as much as 70%; so there ARE a lot of vaccinated folks making up the total caseload. BUT HERE"S THRE MAIN POINT: No matter which group gets the virus (vaccinated or unvaccinated), the vaccinated group will experience far less severity, most likely not need medical help or hospitalization of any kind, and an extremely low percentage will die. The vaccine is working. It is saving lives.
Well let's see almost half of the worlds population is vaccinated. Omicron is more infectious. So obviously you're going to see a rise in vaccinated cases, because more people are vaccinated. Still as usual unvaccinated cases are going to be more severe and more likely to require hospitalization.
Here in my country 92% of the eligible population has had 2 or more doses. Out of all the cases in our current outbreak 82% (9,006 people) were not fully immunised. Out of 580 hospitalizations 93% (540 people) were not fully immunised. 18 deaths happened without any underlying condition, only 4 of them were fully immunised.
The vaccine is NOT a cure. People are getting vaccinated and being lapse with their hygiene. It makes me cringe. All these people just feet apart in the same room and not wearing a mask, no windows open. Some of the masks are not even suitable. Just a thin sheet of material. The problem is that we are a herd animal when it comes to safety. We follow each other throughout history depending on what the majority think. Unfortunately the majority of people are relaxed, especially after one or two jabs.
Interesting ideas. I think those crowded places, no masks, and poor ventilation are the perfect transmission vehicle for COVID. A crowded barroom is probably the worst, and I LIKE going to bars, but think of it- NOI ONE is wearing a mask (because we're eating and drinking!), and with a couple of drinks the voice and laughter level increases and anyone infected is spraying their aerosolized spit into the air! But when you look at such a sight, you have no idea who is vaccinated and who isn't. In many places and with some age, ethnicity, etc. groups, the rate of vaccination is barely 50%. So I wouldn't be too quick to assume they are all acting recklessly because they have been "jabbed".
I just hope this post reminds people to take their health seriously. Your worth it.
1. The vaccines aren't powerful enough to actually guarantee that you won't get the virus.
2. People ignore the safety protocols once they get the vaccine: hand washing, sanitising, and social distancing.
3. Some would mingle freely with others, knowing that they have the virus, and behave irresponsibly.
It's because vaccination doesn't mean you are immune from the virus, and the recent rise of the omicron variant is what's leading to so many people getting the virus. Omicron is mild, but it spreads really fast. For those of you who think the vaccines are not working at all, let me remind you that mortality rates for those who took the vaccine are lower than those who did not take the vaccine, and not to mention this right here:
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211025/people-vacccinated-covid-less-likely-die-any-cause-study
Because sub-par vaccines were released in the middle of a pandemic. As a result, there is evolutionary pressure on the virus to evolve to evade them. These vaccines were never good at preventing the spread of the virus despite the lies we were being told at the beginning of 2021.
That's how mutations work and why the antivaxxers tried so hard to give mutations time to develop and spread. Trump's magical thinking didn't work and antivaxxers cannot stop foaming at the mouth about it. I suppose they think it will make them feel better if Biden's science also fails. Of course it proves nothing about the accuracy of science when it's sabotage, only the effectiveness of scientific solutions when you can't convince people whose sense of self worth relies heavily on remaining unconvinced.
But vaccinated people are getting milder cases, so meh. I think it's like for every one vaccinated person that dies 14 unvaccinated people die. I guess the problem will sort itself out eventually among the unvaccinated as the weak die off. Which is what Trunp told them to want from the start, so..
Because too many fuckwits refuse to vaccinate and refuse to wear masks or social distance. That allows mutations to propagate and spread, making new variants, which are increasingly resistant to the vaccines.
We'd have been done before the last election if stupid entitled mother fuckers did the right thing. But no, they refused to do so.
lmao. You know they just announced that cloth masks are nothing more than facial decoration. Please break out of the mass formation psychosis
CLOTH masks, not medical masks which were recommended.
Unfortunately, not enough people are going to wear the medical masks unless they are made available for free.
At least several locations are making the at-home tests available for free, which is encouraging to me.
Democrats in Congress should have made fighting the virus their first priority, instead of pushing for a grand "social infrastructure" boondoggle.
@Jamie05rhs the mask charade is over. It’s time to move on.
@joeldalton I respectfully disagree, sir. Masks block the outward propulsion of aerosol droplets. (Not completely, of course. But significantly moreso than if you weren't wearing a mask at all.)
@Jamie05rhs lol, the people wearing cloth masks for 2 years said the same thing about theirs until the “science” changed.
@joeldalton Cloth masks never worked, period. They are too porous.
@Jamie05rhs lmao. You do understand you can wear a cloth mask on an airplane but not an N95, right?
@joeldalton The FAA rules are absurd.
@Jamie05rhs And yet, here we are. But please don’t gaslight me, Fauci went on about cloth masks being effective from the start. Every “mandate” passed by any municipality allowed cloth masks…..
Unless, of course, you’re telling me you understand it’s about compliance, not about health.
@joeldalton Fauci knew that cloth masks were not effective. He only chose not to discourage them because he didn't want the general public making a run on the medical masks that the healthcare workers needed to protect themselves while treating the COVID-19 patients. Because there was a national shortage, and they needed time for manufacturing capacity to catch up.
@Jamie05rhs lmao. Ok, so he lied and people died as a result of his shitty advice. He should be arrested.
@joeldalton I also think that he should be arrested. For sending money to Wuhan for gain-of-function research.
How many are in the hospital or dying?
exactly :)
Wrong
I have no way of knowing. I start the death certificate processing, but don’t get the recorded version with cause and manner of death back until after the death certifiers complete them. It takes 2-3 weeks before I get them back. I have yet to see one that lists which strain/variant was involved, they just read SARS-COVID-2 either in the causal chain or in part 2, whichever applies. I haven’t seen vax info on death certificates yet either.
Not being a medical specialist: but I'd say that all vaccines had been made in a rush and they aren't ''perfect''.
By greed, and the lack of better ideas they then made it to the shelves.
Medicine nowadays does not aim to cure us; they just want to keep us alive so that we can consume (and pay :) ) their products as long as economically possible.
'Doctors' have now become drug dealers.
One other contributing detail could be that people who received a vaccine now drop their guard because they feel invincible; virus loves that.
Antibody dependency enhancement. But what you will start to notice is the vaccinated start getting infections in general, and other health issues that cannot easily be traced back to the 'vaccine'. For example norovirus, or fading eyesight, trapped nerves, inflammation, arthritis etc.
So many people still think the vaccine does something. It does nothing but damage the body and shorten your life. This will become apparent over time. No matter how much the media tries to brain wash people, the truth still stays the same.
Can you give some links to where you came up with your opinion because otherwise it’s just your opinion and trust me I don’t even watch the news because you can’t trust anything any of them say I looked at news casters the same as shady lawyers and politicians and cops you can’t trust them
@humpbackjack If you get your information from Gov studies they warn about the possibility of ADE but always conclude it's safe and effective, but if you get them from the vaccine makers or supporters they say there is no risk period.
Look at this: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ijcp.13795
But as I said, it will become apparent over time and you will notice it yourself.
No they don’t say there’s no risk it’s actually about a twenty page list of some of the craziest possible side effects basically every disease known to man but it’s a very small chance and when looking at the severity and how contagious covid is you’re better off taking the minimal risk versus going up against a killer like covid on your own also every vaccine that they’ve been giving us can cause pretty much these same problems hell the flue shot can cause Gillian’s bar disease which can paralyze you for life I believe my wife possibly has Gillian’s bar and if so there’s a good chance from the flu shot also these pharmaceutical companies didn’t just start working on vaccines for viruses when covid hit they been working on viruses for more than 100 years
It’s already happening anonymous my grandma this week is hacking up mucus.. yes mucus.. the vaccine will attack any inflamed area that’s weak. It’s her sinus cavity and she’s always in pain ( chronic inflammation) big hacks of mucus and don’t sneeze around her because she’ll instantly get sick. Vaccinated people don’t realize their open receptors for any and all illness now ! They have no immune system after the 1st and 2nd jab plus 1 booster
If she takes the flu shot after the 1st and 2nd jab plus booster she dies @humpbackjack
@humpbackjack
You said 'when looking at the severity and how contagious covid is you’re better off taking the minimal risk versus going up against a killer like covid on your own'
There is one thing you don't understand. There is a molecule that cannot be patented, that is the solution to COVID and the worst side effect you could get from it is nausea, but that only occurs due to the expelling of too many toxins too quickly. The Government know about this treatment (army and Nasa have used it too) and have kept it hidden from many using censorship and lies. But here is the 'problem' with that molecule. It will not only get rid of COVID, it will do so for all other viruses (including variants), infections and many illness vaccines are made to treat. Thus it renders a huge amount of pharmaceuticals with nowhere else to turn.
You've been lied to like most people. The molecule I mention can also be used in general, and even as a way to remove the virus in the air. It also makes the body healthier overall.
You are supporting a 'vaccine' and other treatments that can cause your face to drop and possibilities of reduced immunity because they have made you think there is no other option.
The molecule is censored and lied about, but it's mentioned in the book 'Forbidden Health' by Andreas Kalcker. There is also another book by him called 'Bye Bye COVID'.
And by the way, I'm not just copying what I've read from some book, I've witnessed the molecule do miracles with my own eyes. When you witness such things, there is no doubt. The choice is yours. Continue buying into all of the clever lies, or read the truth and use the information to protect yourself from the next virus and to help others.
Because we didn't get enough people vaccinated and gave the virus opportunities to mutate into new strains that vaccines are less effective against.
I don't believe these are the real vaccines yet. I'm not anti vaxxer but I do know we need at least 5 to 10 years until we create a safe, effective one.
People are just being guinea pigs, being poisoned with something that gives more problems than the disease - and since it doesn't give you not even 50% of protection, the desperate ones are on their way to their third of tenth shot.
The vaccine isn’t stopping anyone from getting covid. You can still get it while vaccinated. They just protect you from being hospitalized and in severe conditions. That goes for the flu vaccine as well. You can get the vaccine but still get the flu, just with lessened symptoms. No vaccine or medication is 100% effective or prevents you from contracting something.
this should be the fine print on every vaccine lol
More then likely at lot of it is due to people having a compromised immune system. In a lot of ways the effectiveness of a vaccination is still very dependent on a individuals immune system. If a person has a medical issue that causes issues with their immune system getting vaccinated will likely give their system a better chance of overcoming the virus if they are infected. But, the underlying issues with their immune system still lowers their chances of beating the virus once they are infected.
This has to do with Omicron. I've heard many doctors and scientists saying that the vaccines that we have now are not ready for Omicron.
Plus many vaccinated people are no longer cautious because they think that the vaccine is 100% effective and it's not. They fail to realize that even with the vaccine they can still be infected. The only difference is that they have mild symptoms and they're less likely to die.
Because it's not a vaccine, it's a medication which should reduce symptoms according to pro vax propaganda.
Real vaccines offer immunity against particular virus due instant immune system reaction and prevent the infected person infects others because the virus doesn't replicate in their cells in sufficient rate.
Because you can't be fully vaccinated against a mutating virus unless they are constantly updating the vaccine to account for those mutations (which is impossible). It's the same reason that the flu shot is usually only 60% effective, at best. The covid vaccine's efficacy is also proven to wane over time, meaning that people who THINK that they are protected really aren't, so a lot of vaccinated people are engaging in higher risk activities and getting sick and then spreading it to others who think that they are protected, and so on. Vaccinated or not, people should still be cautious and practice good hygiene and avoid large gatherings. The problem is that a lot of people thought that the vaccine would make them fully protected against the virus and it just can't do that. It's impossible.
"Because you can't be fully vaccinated against a mutating virus"
Which renders the talk about vaccine mandates entirely pointless.
You get the vaccine so you don't end up dead it's like body armor would you rather go into a battle zone with a bikini costing of the good graces of the paramedics once you do get shot or would you rather have the armor so if you are unlucky enough to get hit by a strain bullet your gonna get knocked on your ass but your going to get back up
Coasting* off*
Q:Why are so MANY vaccinated people Getting the Virus more than ever now?
A: Apparently, you don't understand vaccination, Paris. And that's embarrassing but you are far from being alone.
Getting the vaccine has NOTHING-AS-IN-0-AS-IN-ZERO to do with getting the virus.
The purpose of vaccination is to pre-emptively teach your immune system how to respond to the virus if you get it.
Minimizing your chance of getting the virus involves taking precautionary measures:
* Wear a mask* Socially distance* Avoid travel and populated places.* Clean surfaces and your skin. This is no different whether you are vaccinated or not. But, IF you get the virus, you have a much better chance of survival being vaccinated than if you are not. This is why the vast number of people who are dying now are unvaccinated.
because omicron is a more transmissable variant so three jabs are needed for better defence and also as i have mentioned before, the jabs dont make you immune. they just lessen the effects if ou do get covid. thats why eventhough we have 2 million people with covid here in the uk currently, the hospitals aren't as over run as last time we had a spike
Cuz the vaccine is a hoax it was just a way to make people feel like they were safe , this virus is mutating and So many people around me have been getting sick that had the vaccinations and still testing positive for Covid so who knows what is going to happen , Feels like the World is coming to an end
It was bound to happen. All we did was delay the inevitable but covid will only go away when we all catch it and it evolved into something harmless.
That it from someone who is vaccinated and currently has covid even in my state I see the necessity of it
I hope you get better soon, man.
It has mutated and is perhaps the immune response triggered by the vaccine is not as effective against the new strain. That’s not a surprise. The omicron strain doesn’t attack the lungs like the previous generations did. No one ever promised that the vaccine would be 100% effective, but the hospitalization statistics show that it was highly effective. After the vaccine was widely available in the United States, it was rare that a vaccinated person was hospitalized from Covid-19. Over 95% of the people hospitalized with a Covid-19 were unvaccinated.
Theyre likely deficient in vitamin d and other vitamins and minerals that promote natural immunity. And yet Fauci doesn't have a word to say about that. The benefits would go beyond covid too. One study showed the verbal iq of vitamin d deficient people went up 10 points over the course of a year.
Why won't Fauci talk about a proper diet and nutrition? Because he is a salesman for covid medications and authoritarianism. His mission is to get the public to believe covid is super dangerous, and only the government have the answers.

This is your precious vaccine by the time the smoke clears, all of the money has been made and 30% of the jabbed folks have all _____ of _____.
New variants, temperature, people need a booster shot, people aren't being careful because they dont understand that they are not immune. No one ever said you couldnt be infected while vaccinated, you absolutely can, but you get less sick, and are less LIKELY go get it than unvaccinated people.
i dont know but im gonna make up sum theory. guess... that the government wanted to get rid of sum people to lower the crowded population, but they didn't jus wanna get rid of any people, they wanted to get rid of the gullible stupid people who believe a little jab will save them, thus weeding out all stupid morons, meaning only the smart people like myself who didn't get it will survive, because who doesn't want more smart people alive?
The mRNA vaccines for the virus don't contain any of the live virus, in fact, the antigen used is completely synthetic. Your body isn't being taught how to fight the virus by actually fighting it. It's like if you only ever played a racing game and then tried to drive a real car
The idea is to teach the body to fight the virus without infecting the person. Vaccines are usually not live. But the body does not know that. It sees the virus, perceives the threat, and developed antibodies which continue to protect the body from any real attack. We have been doing that for decades with many diseases.
@Red_Arrow live-attenuated vaccines are one of the most common forms of vaccinations you goof. Also as I said, this is an mRNA vaccine. The virus, whether live-attenuated or inactivated isn't a matter of discussion here. The vaccines used for Covid don't contain any of the actual virus itself. It's synthetic mRNA. Compared to other forms of vaccines, mRNA vaccines are relatively new and rarely used
The vaccine makes you create antibodies against the virus but it does not offer complete protection. It can prevent you from getting sick but if you do contract the virus you will get a milder case of it. The Omicron variant is more contagious but less toxic which is the natural progression of most viruses.
Paris? The vaccine is designed to work against the original strain of Covid-19. What's circulating now are two variants (mutations), Delta and Omicron. The vaccine only offers a decreased chance of your getting seriously ill against those variants. Those variants didn't even exist when the vaccine was being made. Welcome to 2022.
Evolution. They're catching a significantly different virus.
Vaccines never prevent people from getting infected. I have no clue on why they never stated that fact from the get go. I was once infected with COVID in the past before there was ever a vaccine and I'm now vaccinated. My doctor nearly lost his nerve because people kept thinking the vaccine was gonna make them invincible.
Because the vaccine won't make you immune to the virus, it just makes the side effects of the virus a lot less lethal and that's all...
Stay safe miss paris and take extreme precautions and i wish that you always stay healthy and to keep smiling 😊
They've finally admitted that the vaccines weren't designed to prevent you from catching the virus, but to make you not suffer as much, when you do
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-many-vaccinated-people-getting-050338384.html
I don’t care if I get downvoted, it’s ok to disagree with me. However, the truth is that the VACCINES are kill shots. They are decreasing our population on purpose. We are being lied to, people.
This gave me a laugh!
Vaccines are kill shots? And from what education, scientific literature, or experience with the development of vaccines do you come to that conclusion?
Because vaccines don't keep people from catching it. Vaccines just lower the chances of getting it and immensely reduces the effects of the virus. Plus, the virus keeps mutating and getting stronger to adapt.
... I don't know why people think vaccines are 100% blockers and completely forget high school cell biology. Nothing is 100%, nothing is stupid simple when it comes to science & nature.
A great example is the common cold. It used to be super deadly in the old days and quickly turned into pneumonia. A vaccine was found for it and now people don't die from having a cold and it only lasts a day or two.
It also doesn't help sick people keep going out in public into large crowds.
Another voice of reason! Thank you! About mutation, and I'm going back to grad school for this- viruses normally mutate toward less virulent forms over time, but it can throw off some baddies e. g., the Delta variant while it's on that trip. I'm hoping the Omicron variant is part of that process seems to take quite a while! There's a debate on this but a virus is not actually a living thing, it's a strand of DNA that must hijack the cell's internal organelles to make copies of itself. By comparison, a bacteria IS a living thing and can reproduce on its own like other animals, plants, etc. with both this coronavirus and also the virus that caused the 1918 "Spanish" Influenza that killed 50 to 100 MILLION people before it burned out. Even though it's just a chunk of DNA it almost seems to strategize! The evolutionary engine of mutation is all it has, but the environment it exists in can shape that evolution. One strange fact is that there has never been a contagion that kills 100% of those who get infected. It would wipe out its hosts, become useless and it seems to know that. Trying to figure that out makes my head hurt! :)
You are also correct about the common cold. George Washington died of a throat infection that I believe started as a bad cold! A friend of mine's uncle who lived out in the boondocks of Greece had a toothache, it got infected and killed him. That was a while ago but in the absence of medical intervention all kinds of stuff that gets easily treaterd today could kill.
About sick folks going into crowded public places? Damn right, that spred Omicron like wildfire! And this Coronavirus can infect someone and be asymptomatic for 5 to 6 days and in the extreme case for up to 14 days! You can do a LOT of spreading this thing even before you know you have it!
More contagious variants and the fact that the effects of vaccines get weaker with time which is why you should get boostered
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.
I'm talking about its insane to keep taking boosters that don't work. Where did I lose you?
@msc545 Wait a minute... you're on this site claiming that boosters every 4 months to keep you from getting covid means the shots are working and you're pretending you're the rational one? That's fucking hilarious.
How about this. We'll make a deal. You go ahead and get boosted every 4 months, wear three masks, goggles, and your fauci approved butt plug but in return, you agree to leave everyone else the fuck alone and not try to drag them into your mental illness.
@msc545 This is from the guy who wants people to get these shots to prevent the spread of covid-19. Imagine buying a car where the brakes need to be replaced every 4 months but still won't stop the car and claim you're the intelligent one, lol. Malone was right, you're suffering from mass formation psychosis
they don't prevent you from contracting it. you are still going to contract it. vaccines don't put up an invisible force field. they simply give your body the tools to recognize the pathogen and more efficiently fight it off before the virus takes over your body.
Nobody who has been researching this from the beginning is surprised.
Not only are people who've been jabbed getting the virus, but the vax, itself, is toxic.
Vaccination does not mean immunity. It gives your body extra soldiers to fight the enemy.
Vaccination never stopped infection, only reduced severity of symptoms.
But what did happen was that the government overlords decided that vaccinated people would be the ones allowed into venues and restaurants and whatnot. The vaccinated are going where they want passing it around to all the other vaccinated people and the unvaccinated aren't allowed to participate.
Also, there's another emerging issue where an excess of doses could make people vulnerable to covid. As people move unquestioningly into 4th and 5th doses and get seem to get their hands on it fast enough so they can virtue signal, these people may be at risk.
Winter is upon us and nothing is certain. But I believe that the symptoms will be less severe and it will help believe herd immunity.
exactly!
*Build not believe lol
Absolutely
Some things that are on the mind, should stay only in the mind.
Cause and effect, Paris. It's obvious the vaccines are not as effective as the scientists say they are, and they're starting to admit that.
This new variant is way more contagious then the last. Way more people in general are catching civid. The admittance to hospitals are down % wise & more importantly less in the ICU.
You are right. And there are 2 reasons why cases are rising and hospitalizations are down- 1. the ease of transmission is greater due to the Omnicron variant as you clearly stated, and 2. the rate of vaccination is keeping the cases under the level of severity to warrant medical intervention.
Because like you've been told from the beginning, vaccines do not make you immune to covid. They only reduce symptoms to greatly decrease your risk of hospitalization.
Vaccinated people are getting the omicron variant. The vaccine doesn't stop you from getting sick. It supposedly just lessens the symptoms. I personally know a lot of people who are sick right now with the variant
Cause the vaccine is being forced for population control.
And just how would the government, or anyone for that matter, like industry, the stock market, real estate development, energy, etc. benefit by killing off a piece of the population? Capitalism by it's very nature depends on GROWTH. Does anyone apply critical thinking (or know what that means) to a situation or problem anymore? Easier to pull something out of your butt I guess!
Johnny I believe it cause they have been saying we are over populated for awhile. They now have robots created that can be the human work force and robots work for free so the rich will get even richer!
Because that’s what they do, they can evolve especially when people aren’t doing what they should to prevent the virus from spreading.
Because they overestimate the protection the vaccine gives them. Some people stop caring about all the measure that the government gives out. They wear the mask wrongly or engages in physical contact too early.
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