Do Democrats really have a plan to address global warming?

[exitseven]

California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts are liberal hellholes that just happen to be the top 4 state's in the country for per capita population loss. It is becoming clear that global warming is really caused by overpopulation. Is it possible that they actually have a plan to fight global warming by making their state's so bad with crime and taxes that people will leave for Republican run states,

[Aerissa_Jade]

They have no plan, beyond taking away freedoms and controlling the population, and making people so poor they can't afford to buy stuff. Poor people pollute less right?

Can't afford to drive or do anything, means your staying home and using renewable energy and staring at the wall.

Like California and the no small gas power motor things, all lawn mowers, and other things have to be electric, eventually.

Right cause those last soo long... they don't.

Even my own state has a program to turn in a gas powered lawn mower or snow blower and get $500 towards a new one. Totally optional though, my brother did it and has to replace the battery every 3 to 5 years.

The battery costs $400 right now. Who would think that buying essentially a new snow blower every 3 to 5 years is a good idea?

In the meantime, I have a 20 year old Craftsman from Sear that I hope never wears out.

Democrats claim they are thinking long term for climate change, but they don't even think long term for costs and feasibility for electric things.

My brother will be buying a gas powered one next time, but at least it isn't forced by the state.

It is simple logic to them, control the people and force them to do things, either directly or with the wallet. Now they can try to control pollution.

While at the same time, they 100% ignore the low hanging fruit. They could easily pass laws that say, if a job can be done remotely, work from home (obviously many cannot be done this way) that it is required to be done so.

To cut down on commuting to and from work each day. Then throw in a clause that lets an employee who wants to be in the office do so, their choice essentially. Make it illegal to let someone go if they refuse to come into the office.

Almost everyone can get behind that, I have yet to meet someone who thinks that is a bad idea... that isn't a manager who isn't anti WFH.

Otherwise there is no plan, beyond sending jobs over sea's so the pollution comes from China and thus cuts down on US pollution.

[sage2021]

Isn't this still a free country and people can live wherever they choose?
To answer your question, I don't believe we can count on them to have a plan for global warming or whatever you call it.
They do the least amount of work, so, nothing get's done.
Can you name one thing they have taken on, actually worked on it and completed it?

[exitseven]

I honestly cannot. I can name a few dozen things they have either totally mishandled, screwed up, ruined or set entire country back 20 years.

[sage2021]

Thanks for the one of MHGIRL buddy 🙂

[lightbulb27]

We'll yes, CA's plan is working... get people out of the state disbursed elsewhere... counter productive, but lessens their headaches so it looks like their solution works

NY doing the same.

Generally speaking, they want to keep the manufacturing economy going by switching to electic cars and solar panels.

Add to this all the behavior they encourage to reduce human population... war, males mating with males, etc..

A lot of this plan though is faulty and counter productive. NY is a terrible place for solar, won't get payback after creating all the Co2 to make the panels.

[exitseven]

Yes keep the manufacturing economy going IN CHINA.

[lightbulb27]

correct, that is the plan. They litterally just blocked usa from mining lithium in minnesota, made electricity too expensive, and are actively sending our technology to China (e. g. Honda, tesla, etc..). China doesn't have the standards we have for power, so one would think it increases co2.

I wish I understood the overall plan and why people believe it's good.

As best I can tell their real plan is to do what the UN desired... cut human population by 50%.

[exitseven]

You would think that the president is on the payroll of the chinese government.

[RolandCuthbert]

No dude. Uhm. . . for one second to stop defining this as a political issue.

And ask a scientist how would they prevent global warming.

Maybe the planet's safety should be an issue resolved above the bs political argument you frequently make.

You should like Sabine Hossenfelder. Because she doesn't add any political goofiness to her videos. She states basic scientific fact.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/oqu5DjzOBF8

[VIVANT]

I LOVE HER!! 😃

[RolandCuthbert]

@VIVANT Wow you watch her too?

I just think she is amazing.

And folks don't know.

She can sing!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ckiLhppik

[exitseven]

Democrats have made this a political issue. They want to ram electric cars down our throat, create an environment where the cost of fossil fuel has more than doubled and meanwhile the stand to make millions investing in the Chinese companies that make the batteries and solar panels. This will not solve anything, all it does is ruin the economy for the rest of us

[RolandCuthbert]

No, the dems have not made it a political issue. This is scientific fact. And if you think that politicians who preach fossil fuels do not make millions off your zealotry, you are four miles past naive.

The only people you should be talking to and debating are experts.

So stop pretending this is a democratic politician's scientific theory and talk to an actual scientist in the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm_YoL9ykC4

[msc545]

I live in the "liberal hellhole" of California. Come here and enjoy our beaches, our mountains, lakes, deserts, and all the natural beauty that is provided by this "hellhole". Come see the Pacific coast of California, arguably the world's most beautiful sea coast.

Then go back to your industrial racist toxic landlocked "paradise" and tell me how much better it is.

[exitseven]

I live in a liberal shithole too. It is ground zero for moonbats

[NaultD]

Nessesity is the mother of invention. Put tighter screws and innovative projects show up and can get it down. Very capitalist neo liberal mindset.

Compared to the government funding something themselves but that's too communist for the gop.

So we are generally stuck with half ass democrats pussy footing around and republicans crying communist when the government does any kind of work at all.

In terms of leaving those states, people working from home helps a fuck ton of people, lessons traffic and we learn that from covid19 staying at home.

[BCA6010]

There is no plan to address climate change, because there's pretty much nothing they can do of significant value besides virtue signal and exploit government-funded research to fuel unrelated power seizures. It's all a hypocritical grift at this point.

[Jamie05rhs]

Yes, overpopulation is one of the ways in which humans contribute to climate change. But that's on a global scale. Humans migrating from one state to another isn't going to affect anything.

[gorydetails]

overpopulation is a myth.

[Cubus]

Is world overpopulated?

No. Studies show that Earth is capable of hosting 1000 times more people than we have now.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Cubus Those studies are incorrect. The only way they can do that is by clearing more natural habitats.

[exitseven]

@Cubus there are already too many people here. The are like dog shit, they are everywhere.

[Jamie05rhs]

@gorydetails It's not a myth. It's a very real thing. The world's population is exploding exponentially. And thus the poor are getting even poorer, because they all have to compete with one another. And it's also why you have all of the Africans taking rafts across the Mediterranean to Europe. And why you have all of the Latin Americans traveling through Mexico to illegally cross the border into the U. S.

[Jamie05rhs]

@exitseven That comment was really inappropriate.

[gorydetails]

@Jamie05rhs if overpopulation is a problem, then why are you here? Or do you think other people need to be the solution to the problem?

[Jamie05rhs]

@gorydetails I'm not planning on having any children. So I'm doing my part.

[exitseven]

@Jamie05rhs yes but look around. Developers are building on every square inch of land, traffic is a nightmare 24 hours a day, there is a whole aisle in the supermarket just for bottled water and when you go to a restaurant you have to wait an hour to get seated Evey where you look there are people

[Jamie05rhs]

@exitseven Yes. But you didn't need to word it in such a crude manner.

[gorydetails]

@Jamie05rhs but you're consuming precious resources.

[Cubus]

" Those studies are incorrect. The only way they can do that is by clearing more natural habitats."

Do you have any proofs they are incorrect?

According to UN demographs, we would reach 9 billion (in short scale) inhabitants around the yeard 2100, and later the number of people would stabilise at the similar level. It's because the fertility in the world is dropping.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Depends where on the planet for over population, out west here, between 7 or so states... there is only 10 million people between all of the ones I'm referring to.

Some cities alone are that large in population, tons of wide open space here.

So really no over population in the desert and I'm glad people don't want to live here... cause I don't want it to get over populated.

[Cubus]

@exitseven

They are not. If you mean USA - look at how sparcely populated Montana, Wyoming, Colorado or New Mexico are. There's a lot of place for new people there.

[Cubus]

@Aerissa_Jade You live somewhere in mountain states, right?

That would not be a problem for humanity if you had such a population density as New Jersey or Massachussets. There would still be a lot of free space (I understand you might not like a wave of new people moving there though)

[Aerissa_Jade]

@Cubus Yes, it is so sparse here, that I can go hiking and never see another soul... and people that go missing, often aren't found for years or decades, if they are ever found.

The cities are not so sparse but they also aren't that big either, they are really spread out. Rush hour by me, is 3 cars going by in an hour.

They've found bodies and rusted cars from the 1970's before. That is how long they've been missing and not found.

All these large states here, the mountain states and the population of all them combined is still lower than the high population states.

Limited resources is more of an issue than over population to me... and maybe that is what people really should be saying. Not that we are over populated but that we don't have enough resources to sustain more people. Such as water in the desert is very limited.

[Cubus]

@Aerissa_Jade When it comes to resources - it's hard to measure, but the technology is still becoming more advanced, and we use resources more effectively. Basic example - we invented electricity, so we don;t have to chomp more trees for torches to light the dark night.

That's why I believe we won;t have problems with resources :)

[Aerissa_Jade]

@Cubus I'm more concerned about food and farms, as they are being sold out, going out of business and open space is being build over.

Basically it would be hard to bring them back.

My family has a farm, I grew up on and with less food being produced, if the government wasn't subsidizing farmers, the real cost of food would make people scream.

At the same time, farms require water... lack of water, no farm and no farms, less food or no food.

Of course if food gets expensive enough, farming corporations could buy and tear down entire neighborhoods to build a farm.

The price of Diesel going up so high last fall is still being felt on food production. If we ran out of that, not only would deliveries stop but so would production. Farms run on tractors and other machinery that runs off it.

[Jamie05rhs]

@gorydetails "but you're consuming precious resources."
Maybe I am. What do you propose?

[Jamie05rhs]

@Cubus Global fertility is not dropping. That's only among certain populations.

[Cubus]

Of course it's dropping. Also in African countries.

For example Nigeria - they had close to 7 children per woman in 1978, and now they have 5,31 children per woman.

[Jamie05rhs]

@aerissa_jade
"So really no over population in the desert and I'm glad people don't want to live here... cause I don't want it to get over populated."
People actually really CAN'T live in the desert anyway on any major scale. The desert does not have the necessary resources to sustain human life. (That's why they call it the desert. Lol). That's why there is so much contention over water rights in the Southwest. (Including California.)

[Jamie05rhs]

@AerissaJade Nvm. I see you just said that in your follow-up comment.

[gorydetails]

@Jamie05rhs I’m proposing that you think about being the change you want to see.

[Jamie05rhs]

@gorydetails Funny joke, man. But nah; I'm good. :)

[gorydetails]

@Jamie05rhs ah, so it’s everyone ELSE overpopulating the world. You’re fine.

[Jamie05rhs]

@gorydetails I never populated anything, dumbass! I'm a virgin!

If you're worried about my own existence, take it up with my parents. I wasn't involved in that, bro.

[gorydetails]

You’re still here, consuming resources. You are the population.

[Jamie05rhs]

Whatever, bro. Why don't you come put me out of my misery if you care so much.

That'll kill two birds with one stone. (Since we have the death penalty here.)

[gorydetails]

I’m not the one whining about the world being overpopulated, remember?

[Jamie05rhs]

You've been whining for 5 whole days, dude. Lol! Just let it rest.

[gorydetails]

It's ok, I see you for what you are.

[Jamie05rhs]

Oh, really? Okay. Lol

[Alessa13]

They do not seem to want to address anything except issues they themselves created.

[exitseven]

They never seem to want to fix all the self inflicted disasters.

[Msputiton]

You do realize global warming effects everyone right?

[exitseven]

Of course, but electric cars are not going to fix this, I wonder if democrats know something that the rest of us do not since they seem to be in a race to see how many citizens they can drive from their states

[Msputiton]

So basically you know it effects everyone and then mock the only party trying to do something.
Why do you not ask the Republicans when they gonna stop being nonactive, on a serious situation that could have a major impact on the world's future, instead of mocking people trying to do something.
It reminds me of the people who sit on the couch watching athletes and scream how much better they are than the person actually doing something

[exitseven]

@msputiton. Leveraging existing technology like burning natural gas and propane as well as nuclear energy to create a power grid that is both dependable as well as cost effective should be the goal. Shutting down the fossil fuel industry first, and then trying to fill the deficit with windmills will only weaken and impoverish the country.

[Msputiton]

Have you heard of close mindset? And open mindset?
I'm not saying they're correct. But at this point republicans go ignore global warming.
Democrats are trying.
But when all ideas thrown out gets mocked and not attempted is not the answer.
Trial and error. Figuring out how to fix it takes attempts that fail and then fix the failure until it works.
Look at the first cars. Completely failed over and over again, now they are working better than ever.
So how do you know electric cars won't work?
How do you know that they can't work towards making a successful solution?
How do you know they can't figure out how to make it work without crippling the economy?
All new technology that has changed the world, had millions of people go this is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard.

[Msputiton]

Closed mindsets first reaction is it will never work.
Open mindset think outside the box, take a seemingly impossible idea, and make it possible.
Nobody remembers the people with closed mindsets. They are unremarkable they never achieve anything.
The world remembers the people who have open mindsets. They are the ones who change the world

[exitseven]

Global Warming is not even a man made thing. It is pushed by guys like AL Gore who uses more electricity and fossil fuel than everyone on GAG put together and has millions invested in windmills and solar panels made in China.

[exitseven]

Al Gore will get rich and the rest of us get screwed.

[Zayed_]

Global warming isn’t within human beings hands.

Don’t let technology fool you and make you believe that you’re God

[Anonymous]

It's climate change not global warming. The climate is always changing but human activity since the industrial revolution has started to speed up climate change to the point where a complete shift in the climate, weather patterns and tempatures. What the end result will be no one knows.

[gorydetails]

Their plan is to make your life miserable while their lifestyle remains untouched. They see you as their peasants. You are below them. With you in despair you will be dependent on them.

[AviatorTom]

That's a very unique... and creative... solution... and you know, first hand, how it's being implemented.

[QuietRunner]

I hope the speed limit is reduced back to 55 miles per hour. It should then be enforced with extreme prejudice

I've read the lower speed limit saved oil and lives

[hornyvirgin]

no they distroy everything they touch

[PatriceONeal]

Perhaps of we all hold our breath on Tuesdays