What are your opinions on fatphobia?

[Anonymous]

[blueonblack22]

I have never in my life (since HS) seen a man publicly shame or bully an overweight woman. Even when the overweight woman herself was being the bully (I’ve seen a lot of this hypocritical bullshit) the man still refrained from pointing out the obvious.

Also I do notice that big girls tend to be louder, nastier, more antagonistic and bullying because they crave attention even if it’s negative attention

Lately bbw women keep on trying to label the following “fat shaming”:

• Men who express their preferences about wanting to date a skinny/fit girl.
• Men/women who point out cold hard scientific facts that obesity contributes to a whole host of health complications including a shortened life span. The number one continuing co-morbidity factor is obesity when it came to covid. But the mass media tried to mute that out.
• Men who just ignore and/or turn down heavy set women romantically.

Men don’t usually pull punches when we tell other men to get off their fat asses. Not saying that’s always right but it motivates men to make changes to improve. Yet overweight women keep wanting to live in a fantasy world and rather have other men/women lie to them about them being “beautiful” vs telling them the hard truth that they can take steps to improve their fitness/health.

Sure it’s not easy. Not at all but you can improve yourself through a lifestyle change. The longer you ignore reality the harder reality becomes for you. When you accept the cold hard facts it isn’t fun. But it will motivate you to make changes to improve your life. That’s just how it is.

[blueonblack22]

Also I want to commit I have encounter fit and athletic thicker women. Even though they were heavier there was something very noticeable in how they move, walk and interact physically. They hold the extra weight well because they are active. It’s attractive.

I would never criticize someone like that when they are making an honest effort. Never.

But I do have a serious problem with people who “closet binge” and comfort eat. They also don’t want to put the effort into improving their lives but instead just want people to feel sorry for them. It’s usually bbw women acting this way. Men on the other-hand (including fat men) don’t confuse sympathy with respect.

[Sunssong]

Well, people being mean or treating someone lesser due to the amount of fat in their body is, in my opinion, evil. Regardless of the word used, I know what she is trying to say. I won't be blinded by semantics.

Everyone knows it wrong but it takes a strong person to stand up against it.

I don't think the intent is to glorify fat but instead to reestablish the fact that everyone is innately equal to another regardless of what they don't have or have too much of.
A lot of people don't understand that. They confuse results or way of living with self. Everyone should be treated with kindness and courtesy.

There is absolutely people shaming others for being fat. There is absolutely people making fun of them and belittle them. It's not okay.

[bamesjond0069]

1. Generally people aren't making fun of people for being fat. To some degree yes however the main thing people love to make fun of are fat people who play the victim (like someone else made them fat) or who stick their fat on display or someplace demanding its accomdated (ie demanding airplanes give them free seats especially done last minute like at the flight or demand VS used obese models). Most people view these situations as ridiculous and therefore a common reaction to ridiculous behavior is ridicule.

2. It's not evil to make fun of someone for their own choices. In fact I'd argue it's evil NOT to make fun of or otherwise have opinions on people's choices. One does not need to accept every single behavior just to chase the unrealistic goal of being not only "nice" but "way too nice". Since when is that something people strive to be? Personally I'm nice but idgaf if some obese lady puts me in a position asking me if she looks hot I'm going to say fuck no. Why should I not? It's not my problem nor do I owe her "nice" when she rudely put me in a position I'd say obviously most people would not want to be in.

[Anonymous]

Well I’m current Fat not obese due to
Pcos and many life issues going on and and I know the guy I went to dates didn’t like me for it being fat I know it for sure.. but I don’t think he is fat phobic truth is we want attractive things.. i don’t blame him However I’m very cute and beautiful but see being fat ruins it..
I’m sad about it only because I’m fixing my weight is going down I wish he could have been gentle approaching it and asking me if I wanted to change. But as we know wishes in life rarely became true.
So it’s ok

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I think being mean to someone and making unwanted comments about their weight is wrong in general. A lot of people with weight problems know they have them and they might not be very happy about it themselves. I had a friend that got made fun of for being obese when I was in school, and I was the only one who ever said anything about it. Everyone else just watched. Keeping a healthy weight is hard for some people.

[OlderAndWiser]

There are people actually afraid of fat people?

[exitseven]

One of them might sit on you.

[OlderAndWiser]

@exitseven NOW I'm afraid!

[Razp_Sorbet]

Being mean or cruel to anyone for something they cannot immediately change is just outright disgusting. Some people act as if bigger people cannot enjoy life because they are fat, they cannot feel beautiful or handsome because they are fat, it's a stupid and incredibly toxic mindset.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

They absolutely can change it

[Sunssong]

@PainusNdeeAnus They can change it but it's not as easy as you think. If you've never had a real addiction or strong, undesirable conditioning you can't possibly understand it. Plus she didn't say they couldn't change; Razp_Sorbet said, "... they cannot immediately change..."

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Sunssong yes they can! If people really understood how powerful the human mind actually is i guarantee they wouldn’t live in such a pitiful state

not even factoring in personal skills and talents this is why people say a mind is a terrible thing to waste

[Vegasrunner]

@Razp_Sorbet People can't change their weight?

[Razp_Sorbet]

Are y'all choosing to ignore the word "immediately"?

[snowboarder720]

The only reason @PainusNdeeAnus has so much to say about criticizing others is because they have enough insecurities about themselves.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Yes they can! Haven’t you ever heard the phrase “Cold Turkey”

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus... Really? What exactly are they going cold turkey on?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Day 1 or 1 Day you gotta close chapters in your life to move forward

It can be literally Anything

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus I don't think you understand that phrase.

Going cold turkey means stopping something without weaning off of it.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Day 1 or 1 Day

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus you're literally not making any sense. Going cold turkey has nothing to do with being fat nor weight loss.

As I said, If someone cannot IMMEDIATELY change something about themselves then shaming them for that thing is disgusting and cruel.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Yes they can that’s what true repentance is at it’s core

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus immediately means in an instant. You cannot lose weight in an instant.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Then you obviously don’t see the true potential of the human mind

[Vegasrunner]

@Razp_Sorbet If you fasted or lowered your caloric I take that wouldn't that result I'm an immediate loss of weight?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

The problem is your caloric intake is higher than what you burn off
Human beings were made to move

[snowboarder720]

@Vegasrunner not really. Muscle weighs more than fat. Just because you burn calories doesn’t immediately mean weight is lost.

[snowboarder720]

@Vegasrunner working out and gaining muscle by burning calories can mean gaining more weight.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@snowboarder720 that’s because we are constantly burning calories

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@snowboarder720 the body adapts

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Vegasrunner no it wouldn't immediately make you not fat.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Sure it does it happens instantly you just don’t notice right away

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus you're looking a fool

[PainusNdeeAnus]

For speaking truth?

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus do I really have to talk to you like you're a child?

We are talking about fatphobia and fat shaming.

If a fat person right in this moment restricts their diet are they suddenly not fat? No. They are still fat, therefore it is not something that can be changed IMMEDIATELY. it's a long process and one you often don't know someone is going through unless they tell you.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

First off , U can't SEE ME ! 👋
Second, being fat is shameful

[PainusNdeeAnus]

It’s a shame because it’s a waste of what it could be

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus ok. That's your opinion, not the discussion.

[Still-alive]

this guy and people like him just want to legitimize their shitty behavior of fat shaming people. You know it doesn't work right @painusndeeanus? and only makes it worse for them?

[Still-alive]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6565398/
www.healthline.com/.../fat-shaming-makes-things-worse

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Still-alive yes they should be shamed it is a reflection of what our society has become when people encourage people to eat themselves to an early grave

[Still-alive]

@PainusNdeeAnus gotcha. so that makes you an asshole. confirmed :)

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Still-alive

[Still-alive]

@PainusNdeeAnus so why engage in an activity that doesn't actually work? and only makes things worse for them? got a good answer for that?

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Still-alive nothing is adding up here, his brain is scrambled, I think he lost it somewhere up his ass.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Still-alive it does work just like how when you eat a lot your lifespan drastically decreases

[Still-alive]

@PainusNdeeAnus ah i got it. so you want them to off themselves? genocidal much?

[Still-alive]

@PainusNdeeAnus well i guess we should be glad you aren't even trying to hide how shitty of a person you are lol. most people try to lie or hide that from people

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Still-alive they won’t die from proper nutrition

[Still-alive]

@PainusNdeeAnus but they will when you shame them. i guess you aren't thinking about things logically.

or you are and do want them to kill themselves. and now are pretending to care. :)

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Still-alive what kind of person would rather have what they want over what they needed

[Still-alive]

@PainusNdeeAnus a person who needs something other than being shamed and bullied for it which again doesn't work. if you want more sources for why it doesn't work let me know. i can give you plenty.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Still-alive NO. That type of person would be a child. My way or the highway or should I say the Thighway

[Still-alive]

@PainusNdeeAnus ok you're just trolling at this point. this discussion is over. you're an asshole.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Still-alive come on I said “Thigh” because they’re fat

That was a good one.

[Vegasrunner]

@snowboarder720 But it would mean changing body shape

[Vegasrunner]

@snowboarder720 No one said anything about adding muscle, why did u feel thr need to put that in there?

[Vegasrunner]

@Razp_Sorbet But it would make u weigh less, you said they can't control it, that seems easily controllable. If u enjoy being fat that fine, but saying it's not controllable is false.

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Vegasrunner no, it would not make you weigh less IMMEDIATELY. Take the time to read things carefully.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

So how do you think your body works?

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus weight loss happens over time. The typical and healthiest way to lose weight is 1-2kgs per week (2-4lbs). That comes off gradually not all at once. Someone who weighs 160kg (360lbs) is still going to be fat if they lose 1kg.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

And. Go on.

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus there is no go on, the whole point is that it's a gradual process and not an immediate change as I have said repeatedly.

[Still-alive]

I really wouldn't waste my breath on a guy who is ok with fat people killing themselves to better society.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Is that all that you know about the topic?

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus that's all that is relevant on the topic in this conversation.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

This can’t by definition be a conversation if only what you say is relevant

[Still-alive]

yeah this guy is trolling now lol. wtf

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Still-alive not very well either

[snowboarder720]

He just likes to troll on multiple opinions too. He doesn’t really stick to under his own opinion and does this multiple times. It’s best to ignore them.

[Vegasrunner]

@Razp_Sorbet That is false, if a person weighed themselves, then went to the gym worked out w/out taking in calories, they would weigh less the next time the weighed themselves. It's weird that u don't know this.

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Vegasrunner that isn't instant though is it? Which again for the thousandth time is my point. You do not become thin instantly.

[Still-alive]

reading comprehension is just too difficult for him it seems

[Vegasrunner]

@Razp_Sorbet But you would loss weight Instantly which is the only way you could become thin, and I believe your "point" was people have no control over their weight this literally proves that's false. Have no clue why people want to make excuses for fat people, if your fat simply eat less exercise more it's not that complicated

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Vegasrunner no. That's not my point. I made my point loud and clear. Losing weight ≠ instantly being thin. It's not that complicated.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Yes it is a thinner lifestyle your body immediately adapts it just takes time to notice

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus we aren't talking about lifestyles. We are talking about fat shaming. You would fat shame someone whether they were actively losing weight or not because you wouldn't fking know if they were unless you saw them every day or they told you.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

If they are losing any weight then they would literally have to be eating huge portions and doing nothing afterwards

Never seen so many people fight so hard against exercise

bodies were made to move

[Vegasrunner]

@Razp_Sorbet That point seems to be false, for starters how many health issues can be solved instantly? Secondly thin is a subjective word, so technically a fat person could do one squat and someone looking at them could deem them to be then. Finally why is instantaneous transformation even relative. If being mean is what it takes to get someone to change their life for the better than that seems to be what is most important. Seems pretty narcissistic to believe someone should risk health issues simply for the sake of your feelings.

[Still-alive]

@Vegasrunner "If being mean is what it takes to get someone to change their life for the better than that seems to be what is most important."

its not. its been proven to be ineffective over and over again

[Razp_Sorbet]

It's absolutely insane how you can have someone spell something out for you over and over and you still just don't get it. Suppose you never will. Brains,. I guess they're just not useful to some 🤷🏻‍♀️

[Vegasrunner]

@Razp_Sorbet I'm sure you have a brain, you're just not applying it.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

What do you know about a brain? When you don’t even understand how the human body works

[PainusNdeeAnus]

If you are 300lbs and you start exercising regularly not even intense workouts just consistently your body will immediately start to adapt that’s why rest days are so important the pain we feel is our bodies adjusting to a less sedentary lifestyle once it gets used to it then it will be easier to keep the weight off and harder to put it back on

I challenge anyone who is overweight to only consume 1500 calories a week

[PainusNdeeAnus]

I meant a day

[Razp_Sorbet]

@PainusNdeeAnus still not an immediate change from fat to thin. I stand by my statement, if you don't get it then at this point that's your own problem. Have a good one 👍✌️

[NamerOfStars]

A "phobia" is a fear or morbid dread. Not liking something is not a phobia. Hating something is not a phobia. It may be pointless or illegitimate or stupid, but calling it a phobia is just an attempt to delegitimize what people are saying without engaging with their ideas intellectually.

[Miristheiss]

I couldn't care less about yet another made up BS term.

Obesity is unhealthy. Most people are not attracted to it. End of story.

That means... you are not mean to people. You don't ridicule them or make fun of them. You are also real with them. It is better to be fit. Don't lie to them.

[Anemone978]

I think people are too harsh on fat people, as I have lived the fat life lol. But I don't think it is good to be fat or that people have to lie to me to get through shit. Just be nice an not cruel that's the only thing I would like from people.

[JosyJosy]

Shouldn't it be fatshaming instead of fatphoboa? I have yet to find someone who is scared of a fat person. It's not like they can outrun you. Nudge

I don't care how they want to live their life. I just don't like them complaining about being fat and not doing something about it just like any other person whining about something but doing nothing about it.

[Anonymous]

Fatphobia is a real problem, but its not fat people afraid of being pressured to get in shape.
Its otherwise thin people who are otherwise soo terrified of the idea of being fat that they demonize anything they can even imagine being associated with being fat.

It is a kind of obsessive paranoid insanity that drive some people to kill themselfs.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Having no interest in something doesn't make you phobic. I don't fear someone that's fat or gay or trans, I just have no interest in dating them. Nothing wrong with them as a person. Being labeled as such for not wanting such a person is ridiculous. We don't call homosexuals, heterophobic nor do we call people not in to certain heights as shortphobic. Such things shouldn't exist.

[007kingifrit]

calling things "phobia" when they are just disliked is cringe and peak example of why our academic institutions have collapsed. no academics a phobia is not a "fear or dislike" it is only an irrational fear. you can't redefine words whenever you want

[Rat_Boy]

Being obese is terrible for you. It should not be celebrated or encouraged. If you saw someone drink excessively or smoke constantly, you would tell them to stop. That being said, you shouldn't be cruel. That helps no one.

[DCooper]

There is no such thing. But if someone who's fat feels ashamed, hopefully that's a motivation to begin to address the problem before it kills them.

[genericname85]

"phobia" means "you're scared of it" in dumb peoples words right? i think it's good to be fat phobic, cause too much fat kills you. things that kill you are ok to be scared of in my opinion.

[genericname85]

i actually think it would be idiotic not to be scard of being too fat.

[alice55]

It's never good to insult people though praising them isn't great either cause it put their health in danger

[4ngelic]

pretty much everyone has some degree of like prejudice towards people that dont look good. sad but it's just natural

[DancingQueen16]

It's not right to shame someone and be mean to them just because they're on the "bigger side"

[exitseven]

Is it a fear of fat people or the fear of getting fat?

[TrueConfection]

I was going to ask, but thought I'd check other people's answers first.

I'm scared to death of getting fat, but I'm not afraid of other people being fat.

[exitseven]

@TrueConfection I was a fat kid growing up and maybe it effected me. Some people might say I am overcompensating.

[TrueConfection]

There's nothing shameful about wanting to be healthy.
I was rail thin as a kid and often teased about being skinny. Somewhere along the way I lost that natural skinny and now I have to be careful.

[exitseven]

@TrueConfection we would have been a real couple, of coconuts.😎😎😎

[TrueConfection]

Sometimes you feel like a nut... 🤪 🤪

[Fuentes]

It's unhealthy to be fat and a choice, I'm not hearing how a medical condition can make someone stay fat but if you ask them they will tell you how much nasty fast food they eat, no exercise & their lazy.

[SmokinAces2000]

It’s not a flex to be fat and it definitely shouldn’t be encouraged so I don’t know why fat phobia is even a term. Unless someone is just overweight but healthy then they shouldn’t just accept that they are obese and unhealthy.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Its not fatphobia, its just bullying and/or harrasment.

[CubsterShura]

Literally what on earth am I supposed to think about it other than don't do it?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

nonsense

men get viciously bullied for being fat and look at the results

[DrHobama]

Yeah but yeah representative of the majority of fat men absolutely

[gorydetails]

It’s a completely ridiculous concept. It’s a person’s own fault they are fat. Don’t get mad at people who point that out.

[Dіldophobe]

Oh, those people who are so obese
Their diets are full of unhealthy grease
The burgers and fries they love to eat
Will give them ailments they'll have to treat

Their health is at risk, that is plain to see
But they just don't care, it's so plain to me
They have no fear of the doctor's fees
And take no care of their heart disease

They think the extra fat looks quite nice
But all the medical bills come at a price
They may be happy and content now
But their future health will be in doubt

So please don't be like these people each day
And instead, find healthier ways to stay
Eat your veggies and get some exercise
For a healthier life and a better defense

[Mangospacho]

Just because everyone else doesn’t love every inch of your body doesn’t mean they are afraid of it.

[Pohjolan]

Phobia? You think people are scared of someone for eating loads of ice cream and not working out?

[Snakeyes7]

I agree that you shouldn't be bullying them but telling them that being fat is objectively a bad thing will only help them.

[Cubus]

There's nothing wrong about saying that obesity is a dangerous condition to your life.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

It’s an irrational fear, just like the fear of lemon-meringue pie.

[Agape93]

Nobody is scared of fat people.

[UncleBilll]

No such thing as fat phobia!

[Anonymous]

There is no such thing.

[Anonymous]

I hate the glorification of fat white women.

[EaterPeter]

It is real.

[HowardB]

What’s fat phobia