Who is Andrea Serrano? 31-year-old Colorado woman who had a child with a 13-year-old avoids jail term
The worst part about this is now this little boy, is a father. So guaranteed, he and his child will be in therapy for the rest of their lives.
Who is Andrea Serrano? 31-year-old Colorado woman who had a child with a 13-year-old avoids jail term
The worst part about this is now this little boy, is a father. So guaranteed, he and his child will be in therapy for the rest of their lives.
Women always get a pass I say the same thing happen around that age. At the time I was maybe a year older and a friend he a little younger than I was by a couple of months a lady in her mid 30's begin making eyes at him. The next thing you know she was smooching him and it went from smooching to them living together driving her vehicle everywhere and living together the whole town knew about it.
She even threatened to have us thrown in jail she would get jealous because he still wanted to hang out with us. The cops came came one day when she started working at a store we shopped at since we were little she refused to sell to us and called the cops and they knew about their relationship too yet threatened to throw us in jail when she wouldn't let us checkout out with our things.
She ended up getting pregnant and he ended up paying her child support when he turned eighteen and this was back in the early 80's.
Back then was when I begin to take notice and begin figuring it out that the age of consent had nothing to do with protection and women have privileges men don't have it started becoming obvious. The age of consent doesn't protect children it wasn't meant to it was meant to separate men from children the first step in taking men out of the family removing his children. As a man try adopting and see how they discriminate against men from custody to child support to adoption they gamed the entire system against men and age of consent was how they did it to control men.
And the system remain against men too as long as they have that barrier that tool pretty much exclusively harshly used against men and or boys. If the age of consent had anything to do with protecting children women wouldn't get the passes they get would now would they? The age of consent is only to restrict men it's very evident it's a tool not protection.
There is such a thing as rape molestation and incest laws and if it weren't for the age of consent as a choice tool against men and population control it wouldn't exist.
PS. If anyone thinks the age of consent ever was or is to protect children, guess again.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Se4Xj0MISHrq/
I feel that group needs a lot of help to heal the wounds, build a nuclear family for the benefit of the innocent child. People can do wrong things, out of the wrong energy and the damage is done. What's important, is fixing the problem. It will take a village and let's hope they pull it together.
I'd rather not judge since I don't know the people or situation... but of course, it looks unfair as a male would do 20 years. I'd rather have those close to it assess the impact, needs, and punishment. It's not fair to men, but I don't expect fairness, learned that long ago. I think there's difference in energy... male and female. I think... I don't know... that there's a difference forcing ones way into someone vs what it take for her to force him into her. That's emotional abuse primarily vs men often where it's violently physical.
What important to me would be what is best for the child, and the other child, and correction of the woman. Failure to protect the child and give them foundation to life, fix the underlying problems, means the damage is repeated. Jail fixes nothing unless it's time for her to focus on therapy resolution... that has value... lock her up with monitoring with her child, until her emotional wounds are healed and she can support herself. Just punishing people when there is a child to raise, where critical learning occurs... pointless... feels good, feels fair... but the child probably gets screwed, not fair to them. In this case, it takes a village to fix this problem. I would generally say the same about some male rape cases, but society and women see them differently.
This is why we have all these social rules in the first place... and people keep testing them. Laws aren't so flexible, and they are not fair.
I feel like humans have the same problems recorded thousands of years ago...
I also feel a little bit like a liberal judge at the moment...
I don't understand much of what you posted. The law sentencing guide is 10 years. She got zero. And not by a judge's decision. This was a plea bargain offered by the DA.
As for your politics, I don't know why you even insert that. "It takes a village" is an African proverb. One that incites pure rage in the many of those who claim to be "conservative". Because it is "socialism", in their opinion.
But it will take a village. I don't think his parents are together. But he and his mother will need help from the community.
I won't try to fix it.
I was drawing the term from Hillary C's book title, but I mean in essence, it will take a team of skilled caring people to repair that. As I understand it, she already had the baby, so they are talking about separating what may be, a family. Again, Id try to assess whats best for the child and do that.
Not sure what happened with the plea deal.
It raises the question what is the point of jail? My view of it is to protect society from that person for some period of time, providing a place to restart life and correct their flawed behavior, and maybe punishment in some cases... in that order. I'm not saying that's what it is. I want to see correction, more than punishment.
The nuclear family is not beneficial for anyone...
@Subarugirl i have one. it's not what anyone wanted along the way, but it's the best we got put together and making it work. making lemonaide from lemons sometimes means you got a great chef in charge...
no doubt though, emotional damage occurs when "sin" takes hold...
Well depends on what you think sin is? I mean Marry was 14 when she got impregnated...
@Subarugirl hey, that was a miracle... how something terrible was spin into a story to save the human race. I don't exactly believe the story as written... it's a story. Sin seems to be denying love or separation from it.
How do you determine what sin is? What moral guide do you use to determine what sin is and what it is not?
@Subarugirl Yea gets tricky, relative to beliefs. I'm talking about me and my family, I'm the only Christian. I'd rather remove "sin", which means an offense to God (love), and just say... selfishness. That is what blew up the family, and the root of that was childhood wounds and immaturity. My now wife picked up the broken pieces and put it back together, for the sake of the children. The woman makes the family and makes it work... nuclear. Not what anyone asked for, but in some ways, it worked for the best... maybe it was "Gods will"... in other words, some new wounds were made, but it exposed other ones, for benefit.
That's what I see in this case. What's the opportunity... that could include punishment.
To your point, the reference point of right /wrong is different in other countries since the underlying beliefs vary. In Saudi arabia... dudes capture European girls and marry them at who knows...9-13? UAE is a slave colony in some ways. That's wrong to me, but I have no power there. I'd say that's a sin since the child has no power. Their mindset is different.
Oh so your ideal of sin is based on the bible..
It's not the woman that makes the family work its both partners. Family isn't one sided and dumping the responsibility of a relationships success onto the woman is lazy and negligent.
In the bible, men did the same. Little girls were sold and married off to adult men as children... not so different than what happened in the bible.
@Subarugirl Yes, who knows their motives? The question is where is the heart? I'm not blaming all that on Jesus of Nazareth, he if anyone, tried to repair it. If we had a pure heart, how would we view the situation with this woman and offended child... and how would that guide our decisions?
The "sin" was dividing the family, before I got involved. I credit my wife with knitting the family together, for making peace and communicating, for honoring the kids father even though he wasn't so honorable at the time. It takes two to respond, but she did the work, and without support. Women can do that, or they can be vengeful and divide the family... have you seen them? Yes it takes two in a marriage and we work together, it's not all on her. Maybe I'm not being clear.
Men can and should do that as well, it shouldn't be the womans responsibility. She shouldn't have to do that.
@Subarugirl I agree in general, and maybe it's a factor of whom the "adult is". But to be clear, it takes work.
Yes it does but it takes work on both ends, a one sided relationship isn't really a relationship at all
@Subarugirl Of course it is. But that isn't the only kind of stable family that is beneficial.
Kids need a stable environment. How that is provided is a community decision.
@lightbulb27 that is exactly the point. What is the best thing for these children. This child that is now a father. . . and this infant that he is responsible for. It will take a village. It always has taken a village. It always will.
Hopefully, they have sufficient support. But this woman needed to be punished. And she was not.
This does not deter her behavior. This does not show her she was wrong. Nor does it show other folks who wish to rape children, that this is a serious crime.
She was punished, with about the same severity that male predators are punished.
That wasn't rape it was statutory rape; a huge difference. The law states that boys and girls under the age of consent (16 to 18 in the various states of the USA) are not competent to consent. However, I disagree. Teenagers ages 13 and above are not stupid like old folks believe they are. We know right from wrong and we are not going to have sex with an older person that doesn't sexually appeal to us just because he or she is older and more experienced.
In fact, I would lower the age of consent to age 14 and it would only be a misdemeanor and they would not be required to register as a sex offender if the young person is age 12 or 13. The exception would be if the older person is in a position of authority such as an older family member, a doctor, a coach and in a few cases a teacher.
The age of consent was never about protecting anyone just like feminism is was and is meant to aid eugenics from it's very beginning. Proof https://www.bitchute.com/video/Se4Xj0MISHrq/
@SpokenTruth I agree the so call COVID vaccine which is not really a vaccine, is intended to eliminate a bunch of useless eaters. However, I don't see how that related to the age of consent. Now do I see how the age of consent is related to eugenics.
In 1885 when people were more wise, the age of consent was 10 in more than half the states and 12 in most of the remaining states: observablehq.com/.../age-of-consent-through-the-years-in-the-united-states
This is just a rationalization. A child cannot take responsibility for having a sexual romantic relationship with someone twice his age. Nor can he/she be responsible for raising an infant.
That isn't even a rational position.
Draw the line between the guise of protection and the age of consent and connect the two that's how it relates. They can't maintain the age of consent was or is to protect children while literally wiping out children at the same time can they?
@RolandCuthbert A child cannot take responsibility for having sexual romantic relationships with someone twice their age? Explain what age has to do with it give one logical explanation how age factors in. And as you have stated a child cannot take responsibility for having a sexual romantic relationship with someone twice their age, however a child can consent to hormones and a sex change as young as two or three? And they can be injected with something even without their parents consent or knowledge?
@SpokenTruth I never said a child could consent to hormone therapy. Take your nonsensical political concerns somewhere else.
The debate about when children can or should begin hormone therapy is a complex, nuance conversation. But to make these decisions at the state level without the consent or knowledge of the family in my opinion is government overrreach.
Well I can tell you I witnessed it first hand a good friend at the time both of us around age 14 and he had to so called man up and take responsibility for impregnating his then mid 30's girlfriend and he was made to give her child support too as soon as hit eighteen. Think about it, they can't have it both ways and if it worked years ago when there was no age of consent there you have it.
@SpokenTruth Right now you are just spouting nonsense. I posted a story about a boy who was raped.
And you made it all about you and your needs.
So men and women have advantages by what society sees us as a gender.
Unfortunately this is one for women. We are considered less threatening, and it is considered less traumatic for a male to get taken advantage of by a grown up sexually.
He is 13. He is a child. He should have to worry about a grown woman taking advantage of him sexually. And she shouldn't be given a way out of jail. She has really done this boy wrong and i hate how easy we are on rapists in general, let alone when it is a woman
And the worst thing is, there is a baby involved. He isn't ready to be anyone's father.
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It's so redicoulus I can't 3ven be mad at it, it seems women get off by technicalities cause some places have the laws on rape worded around penitration or penis.
So she gets off with sexual assult... so basiclly her raping a child... based on the laws is equal to man flashing his dick at a grown woman.
Like how's that make sense that showing a grown woman that knows damn well what a penis is "as bad" as a woman raping a child, making him a father for life?
Equality my ass, funny how woman get to avoid being treated equal when it suits them. No jail time, gets to keep a minor after raping a minor, and she might only have to be on the S O list for ten years!!!
Reminds of a story recently were child protective services returned a kid to a mentally ill mother cause that's the only way for the father to get custody, and the crazy bitch mag dumped a shogun into the child, abviously killing it.
These government institutions and laws are so broken its not even funny, once again, laws protect criminals more than victims.
But that's not the law. If you read the article, you know this was a plea bargain.
Why did the DA take this deal?
I mean, she was setup to get ten years. And they let her go with probation. That's insane.
This is completely unfair. It doesn't even make sense that people get different punishments for actions just because of their race or gender. What is this, the 18th century? If the genders were reversed, I gurantee you, the guy would be in jail for the next 25 years.
Some of you may recognize whom I am in person because I am posting this, but I actually got suspended from school (3 years ago) for 2 days just for yelling at a girl that I did not have head with her when someone made rumors that I did. I didn't threaten her, didn't intimidate her or anything, didn't even say anything about wanting to have head with her, but I got suspended just for using vulgar language.
At this point, this isn't even JUST inequality. This is literally encouraging sexual assault, encouraging the endangerment of children, encouraging taking some 13 year old's precious life and turning it into a hot mess. Now this child is going to have to give up his whole life, raising a child 10-15 years before he is emotionally and financially even ready for it. This isn't even something temporary like robbing him, but its literally doing permanant damage to the next 50+ years of his life. Just wow.
Don't fall for sensationalist headlines.
Read the fine print.
Actually, she could still be on "sex offender supervised probation" for life.
That would definitely be a pain in the ass.
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Under terms of the plea deal reviewed by 11 News and that the suspect signed off on, Serrano will be required to register as a sex offender, and the judge could sentence her to 10 years to life on sex offender intensive supervised probation. Serrano will avoid any jail time, since the district attorney’s office dropped the original charges to a lesser charge that does not come with mandatory jail time.
She should be in jail for at least 20 years. Not sure why you think probation is a harsh sentence.
Because it's not normal probation.
It's harsher.
www.denvercriminalattorneylawyer.com/.../
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When a person pleads guilty to or is convicted of a sex offense in Denver County or anywhere in Colorado and is sentenced to probation, they are watched more closely than those convicted of non-sex crimes. This is called Sex Offender Intensive Supervised Probation (SOISP). Under these guidelines, a person sentenced to SOISP will be required to meet with a probation officer frequently. The Probation Officer determines which types of treatment the offender will attend, and has control over all aspects of the defendant's life. Supervision includes not contact with children, mandatory drug and alcohol testing, call-ins, home visits, and curfews. If all aspects of probation are not fulfilled, probation can be revoked, resulting in prison time. The amount of time a person will be sentenced to SOISP is usually indeterminate.
As for the boy, yeah, you can't help but feel bad being a father before getting your first zit, but, as a minor, he won't have custody. His parents will sue for it. However, they could then put the baby up for adoption which, at this boy's age, probably wouldn't be all that traumatic as an adult man losing his baby to adoption. But, what will happen is that the boy's parents will raise their grandchild like their child. Then when the boy is legally a man, he could take over or legally let his parents be the guardian.
It is still probation.
Why you even arguing about this? Would you like to be in prison or probation?
Oh, you would like probation? Me too!!!
So you don't get that this boy is a father. He is 13 years old. And a father. When his child is 15, he will be just 28 years old.
His childhood is gone.
His childhood is gone if the baby is kept. But he can't even legally raise the baby! He's a minor. His parent's are going to get custody - at least until he is an adult. That boy is still going to have a "childhood" and, at 13, there really wasn't much of that left because the pressures of adolescence and soon college are already knocking at the door.
Assuming his parents gain custody, they will raise the child so it will be more like the boy is the sibling of the baby.
Look, I am just as bothered by this as most people, but I also take this with a dose of reality.
We are shocked that a 13-year old boy is becoming a father.
It shouldn't be because we are evolved to create the next generation around then.
In the 2+ million year 100 billion person history of Homo sapiens, a shitload of 13-year olds became parents. And, today, a shitload of 13-year old girls become mothers... because they had sex with 13 and 14-year old boys too.
Bottomline...
What happened to the boy sucks, but it's not shocking and it's not the end of the world.
Should she have gotten jail time?
Maybe, but if the DA lost the case, she'd have NO punishment AND keep the baby!
So, the DA and the woman struck a plea deal that involved no jail time.
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Meanwhile, Colorado created the law for the Sex-Offender Intensive Probation.
If people don't like what happened, then move to Colorado and vote for candidates to repeal it.
One reason they probably did vote for it is that it does 3 things:
1. Saves the tax payer's money because
A) It's cheaper when a felon has to earn their own living to stay alive than paying to imprison the felon.
B) You don't have to build more prisons.
2. You save up space in the existing prisons for "real felons" - like violent criminals - the people you really do want behind bars for public safety.
Really, that's what a lot of these cases boil down to:
1. The likelihood of winning the case.
2. The total costs of imprisonment.
3. The nature of the felon and felony.
The DA knows this which is why a plea deal was offered and taken.
I said my piece.
Time to mute.
So you would screw up the situation even more, by trying to keep a secret that you can't keep? He is a child, but he isn't dumb. More than likely he already knows he has a child. Primary responsibility will fall to his mother. And no matter how you spin it, that is a messed up situation. For him. . . and for his child knowing that his father is only 13 years older. No matter what you say, there is going to be a lot of guilt, shame, misunderstanding, ridicule by others, etc. all throughout their lives. It is going to be a challenge every single day.
And you are pretending that you are as outraged as everyone else. Of course you are not. You seem to be downplaying what this family is going to have to struggle with. And I guess because you believe that probation is good enough punishment, when you know most here want her murdered.
Of course, that is ridiculous. But normally the minimum sentence is 10 years. I would want 20 with 15 years for good behavior. But lifetime probation should be automatic. She raped a child. This is not punishment. It is the law's responsibility to make sure she never does this to another child. And the only way to ensure that is to monitor her for the rest of her life.
No the DA did not lose the case, read the article.
This was a plea bargain. That DA needs to lose his job.
If implemented well, that sounds like a good plan. MHO there for the added value!
All Perpetrators that willingly premeditate any form of violence, abuse, or general exploitation of a child is criminal and the perpetrator should be removed from society permanently. Federal law, as well as some states, protect perpetrator from statutory rape charge if they are married. This is a sicko child abuse loophole. I think parent consent is required for the marriage.
I do not own a television so... she obviously is a smart woman who created a design where a child can not maintain a child, however, there are two sets of grandparents that can care for both children. I assume there was weed served with meal to the jurors or State employees responsible for decision as it is Colorado.-It is the only explanation available for such a decision except for the actions of a depraved, derelict, immoral, and damned society.
But this was a plea bargain.
Why would the DA accept this deal?
"According to Gazzette, Andrea Serrano was accused of having inappropriate relations with a teenage boy who reportedly viewed her as a maternal figure. While she faced up to 10 years in prison on the charges, the plea deal confirmed that she would not receive jail time."
It doesn't surprise me, but it is sick and wrong. What's even worse is that the kid now faces a very real possibility of being strapped with child support for the next 18 years. A judge in Briton once told a kid "better get a paper route." Sick and wrong on so many levels.
Well, this was in Colorado.
But still I had no idea how backwards child rape laws were in Britain.
I don't think this was about the law. It was a plea bargain.
Why would the DA do this?
He needs to be voted out of office in a hurry. I think this is the guy. He makes the charging decisions for the district.
https://www.da4colorado.gov/
Karma will get her
The boys mom is fighting for custody. Whats wrong with grandma caring for the kid until the boy is out of HS? Its pretty common these days to see young grandparents (and grandparents playing substitute mother/father to the grandkid). A lot of young dudes see it as a good thing to lose it to their teacher, but i absolutely feel bad if he was raped. Either way he was groomed and karma will get that pedo of a teacher
I am sure she will get custody. But this has ruined two lives. . and destroyed a family.
Yet she is walking free.
Same way I feel about this guy only getting 30 days for sexually abusing 3 minors.
Samuel Melthratter, former Oregon lifeguard arrested for sexually abuse three underage victims The Global Dispatch The Global Dispatch
And the same way I feel about how there are more teenage mothers than there are teen age fathers.
Well, I know. I have been doing a bit of research into child rape. And there are many district attorneys who accept pleas. We need to start removing these people.
Serrano will be required to register as a sex offender, and the judge could sentence her to 10 years to life on sex offender intensive supervised probation. Serrano will avoid any jail time, since the district attorney’s office dropped the original charges to a lesser charge that does not come with mandatory jail time.
Samuel only got 30 days in jail and didn't have to register as a sex offender..
How could the judge sentence her, if the DA refuses to prosecute her. That doesn't make any sense. The DA brought a plea deal. She accepted. Why wouldn't she? She receives no jail time.
and a life time or probation and a register sex offender for life.
But no jail time. No matter how you spin it, jail is not pleasant which is why people don't go when they can avoid it.
Woman have been fighting for equality for a long time now, and im all for it. But on some parts of life we still have a long way to go. Crime is one, like a woman can rape or kill someone and get less time JUST because she's a woman. The punishment should fitt the crime, not the gender. Also parenthood, not all mother's are good mother's, not all kids is better of with their mothers. But the system would often place a kid with an abusive mother then with a safer Father. I'm saying this as examples, it's not universally so. And there are many situations out there. Some fair but some is unfair.
Absolutely. She was supposed to get ten years. This is crazy.
Exactly. We have come a long way in the fight of equality, but we still have a long way to go. The frase "the weaker sex" have created demonstrations and rage and rightfully so, it's a terrible thing to say. How ever the very act of giving this lady a lesser punishment because of her gender is in a way to say "the weaker sex" and that is not correct
Yeah, but it wasn't the judge.
This was a plea deal. WTF?
I don't know how the DA could take that deal. I thought they would consult with the victim's family.
But apparently not.
I don't know about any other men on this site, but I had a 9-10 year old cousin, having me touch her asshole when I was about 5, and I sure as hell was not traumatized.
Had my mom not send me to Arizona with her and my brother when she found out about it, my cousin may have been sitting on my face, or jacking me off later on, or who knows had me fucking her.
This whole "RAPE" think of a woman 'raping' a guy is such bullshit, and I would have welcomed the cousin sitting on my face when I was old enough to know what was what
The same I feel about a male rapist getting away with it. Or a non-binary rapist.
Rape is rape. It doesn’t matter who the victim is, or who the rapist is. They are still a rapist, and they should still be executed by being publicly beaten and left in the open to be picked apart by scavengers.
anyone who does anything to a child deserves jail or death
and no, it's not fair for a 13 year old to now raise a kid borne out of rape, surely there are laws against this kind of thing, like you'd have to be 16+ to be a parent etc
That is what I am saying. He isn't even in high school. I mean, how do you even deal with a kid?
Who says that they must be 16 to be a parent? 15 ain’t parenting?
The "punishment" is ridiculous. That aside, the crime can't be undone. At this point, the only thing to do is try and find a positive side, if there is one. Hopefully the 13 year old has an otherwise stable family that'll be able to help him as a teenage father. There's also the fact that when the baby is old enough to graduate high school, the child's father will only be around 30 or 31, and still have his entire life ahead of him. Hopefully they're able to have an uncomplicated life going forward (aside from the obvious).
I have always maintained that our British legal system requires an immediate attention, including to radically overhaul rape cases involving both sexes.
How do things work in Britain with respect to child rape?
Copied and pasted from the Crown Prosecution Service.
Legally, a person without a penis cannot commit rape, but a female may be guilty of rape if they assist a male perpetrator in an attack. Sexual assault is where one person intentionally touches another person sexually without their consent. The touching can be done with any part of the body or with an object.
Wow!!! I had no idea of the laws in Britain.
Gee whiz!
Well, thank you for that. I had no idea.
@RolandCuthbert
As always, you're most very welcome indeed.
I dont care about their gender rapists deserve jail time and child rapist maybe more! Lifelong at least.
she's not getting any jail time a all. how do you feel about that?
What about the child afterwards. What responsibilities does a 13 year old boy have to a baby he fathered via rape?
An adult male who seduces an underage girl will always face a stiffer punishment than if the sexes were reversed, and it's complete double-standard bullshit.
Well, the fact is, she is getting off scot-free.
It isn't even a situation where she got less jail time.
She is getting none. Nada. . .
That reminds me of when I was 18 and had a 55-year-old girlfriend. People said that was ‘rape,’ but that was at least way better than the rapist Andrea story. Abdullah + Katyusha = love. Andrea + 13-year-old ≠ love.
I haven't read the story at all, whether it was forced rape or statutory rape, but definitely if it was physical rape then yes she should go to jail. She would most likely be stronger than him still at 13 years old, so she's taking advantage of her physical strength over a child weaker than her. Yeah the child will likely be in therapy too, as on both parents' sides of the family it will not have an emotionally stable role-model.
Why are we splitting hairs over " what kind" of rape it is? I thought when it came to women the saying was "rape is rape" like I see a girl I've just met have one margaritas now she can't possible consent and I'm a rapist, but here you are acting like we need to figure out how into this manipulative monster of a woman was this little boy?
I don't think you'd be asking these questions if genders were reversed.
I don't care if your male or female, you sexually exploit children you deserve the death penalty. Truly disgusting story. That poor boy.
It is crazy that now he is a father.
What in the world do you even say to that?
It's truly sad. That female (I can't even call her a woman) would do that to a baby. Nothing you can say it's done now. I just hope he has a great support system to help him get through this traumatic experience 🙏
Probably the worst part about this is it will just embolden all those incel types and make them say stuff like 'see i told you so!'
Yeah this is a problem. our justice system is generally kinder to women then men
Yes, it will. They will use this as some example of women having it better.
But the rest of us still have to focus on justice. That little boy will be messed up for the rest of his life. When his son is 15 years old. . . he will be just 26.
That's really sad.
Actually that isn't exactly true... Statistics cited by the ACLU and the Women’s March suggest a wide gender gap in sentencing. The average prison sentence for men who kill their female partners is two to six years (the illustration here takes the midpoint of those values). By contrast women, who kill their partners are sentenced on average to 15 years.
Despite its widespread use, the statistic is dated. It was first published by the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence in 1989. It remains true that most women who kill their partners cite self-defense as a motive. In fact, 70-80% of incarcerated women report intimate partner violence. But there doesn’t appear to be any recent analysis of sentencing to see if this gender gap in sentencing remains the same.
Since the statistic was first published, one of the clearest changes in the US prison system has been the dramatic increase in women’s incarceration rates. Research also suggests that women are given harsher punishments when they have committed crimes that are perceived as more masculine, such as murder.
@Subarugirl can you post a link please?
@Subarugirl well i dont know. I find mixed results when i simply google this. here's a university of Michigan law school 2012 study:
Conclusion
“This study finds dramatic unexplained gender gaps in federal criminal cases. Conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables, men receive 63% longer sentences on average than women do. Women are also significantly likelier to avoid charges and convictions, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted.”
But Further in the conclusion it states that the men who get incarcerated more as we all know are poor and disproportionately people of color. So while men are not traditionally disenfranchised, the kinds of men in our prisons usually are.
“While males generally are not a disadvantaged group, men in the criminal justice system generally are; they are mostly poor and disproportionately nonwhite. The especially high rate of incarceration of men of color is a serious social concern, and gender disparity is one of its key dimensions.”
Yes, minorities generally receive harsher and longer sentences
@Subarugirl and are mostly men according to that study.
I think more studies should be done on this. Feels like there isn’t enough
Yes but it is also true that it is predominantly men who commit violent crimes/
@Subarugirl yes.
i do understand that in general women have it pretty rough it most areas of our society here in the west like at the workplace for instance but the criminal justice system generally isn't it. you can find certain rulings that tend to be harsher towards women then men but generally sentencing is quite lenient towards women.
I also saw a study that women inmates get treated harsher for the same infractions in prison then men do as well.
Yeah there are issues on both sides for sure.
Women are viewed as less able to do harm. It's a huge flaw in the system. Because of gender alone, they get a lesser sentence or nothing at all. Even when they committed the same crime as a guy who is now probably still sitting his days out in jail
There was some influencer who groped a passed out gut. It was recorded. She didn't get punished. It's just so sad.
Well there are men who do get away with child rape with supervised probation. But I think we need to start holding these district attorneys accountable. Because this was a plea bargain. Why would any district attorney take this deal?
Not surprising, but this is just backwards and sickening. THIS WOMAN FUCKING ADMITTED TO AND WAS FOUND GUILTY OF HAVING SEX WITH AN UNDERAGE BOY!! And on top of that, she only faced 10 years in prison? As a feminist, I think women should be treated equally. Women being given lighter sentences or a slap on the wrist is not equality. Though I get that having to register as a sex offender and being on probation isn't just a slap on the wrist, it's not enough.
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