Since, you know…you or me might be bystanders in the next shooting.
Kinda like, I don't know, a drivers test? Cuz there’s other people out there.

Since, you know…you or me might be bystanders in the next shooting.
Kinda like, I don't know, a drivers test? Cuz there’s other people out there.

they should basically emulate the way japan does it:
1. Join a hunting or shooting club.
2. Take a firearm class and pass a written exam, which is held up to three times a year.
3. Get a doctor’s note saying you are mentally fit and do not have a history of drug abuse.
4. Apply for a permit to take firing training, which may take up to a month.
5. Describe in a police interview why you need a gun.
6. Pass a review of your criminal history, gun possession record, employment, involvement with organized crime groups, personal debt and relationships with friends, family and neighbors.
7. Apply for a gunpowder permit.
8. Take a one-day training class and pass a firing test.
9. Obtain a certificate from a gun dealer describing the gun you want.
10. Buy a gun safe and an ammunition locker that meet safety regulations.
11. Allow the police to inspect your gun storage.
12. Pass an additional background review.
13. Buy a gun.
And after all that society thinks you are responsible enough to own a gun. just think of the weight of that. i would take the responsibility very seriously.
Sure. And let's limit your 1st Amendment rights to a parchment and quill. No more telephone or Internet for you. And anyone who has mental health issues lose their 1st Amendment rights. Is that the standard you think we should set?
Do you know how low the crime rate is among legal gun owners? And even lower among concealed carry permit holders? Way lower than the overall average.
The vast majority of gun-related violence is committed by people who are already prohibited from legally possessing guns - convicted felons. Yet, we have left-leaning state governments releasing felons in droves. My governor has emptied out and closed 4 state prisons and put those felons back out on the streets to commit more crimes, and the crime rate has skyrocketed.
No one wants to talk about that, though, it's the people with no history of violence that are somehow the problem.
The vast majority of those Law Abiding Members of the Public who open or concealed carry tend to put in more time training than the average police officer, when I lived in the US I concealed carried and I was at the range at least 3 times a week, no just shooting but running various drills.
I would be more concerned about the level of training that police officers have and how often they are at the range, consider this, police officers in New York had their firearms training time/budget cut because the bean counters in the NYPD considered it more efficient to pay out on wrongful death suits than to train their officers how to shoot to an acceptable level.
Sure, soon as someone can pass a basic knowledge test before being able to vote.
Otherwise no, as it is a right. That said, I'm 100% for someone being charged with a crime if they accidently hurt or kill someone else as they are all responsible for where a bullet ends up after fired, even if it goes through their target or they miss.
This includes the police if they shoot through a suspect and hit someone else. They should all get charged with manslaughter.
I am not opposed to free gun training though, just not required. Most reasonable people will do free classes. I would do them, simply to refresh skills if they were at convenient time and place.
Gun should only be allowed if you work in a proffession involving the need of guns. That my oppinion i am not americain. Here noone has guns not even the police so i dont know because we dont need them dbh they are scary and useless.
The uk hand guns are ilegal here. Most european countries have strict gun laws.
Yeah hunting is wrong
Yea and also hunting guns are so big it would be impossible for a todler to hide it in his school bag and shoot someone with it.
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You need a driving licence and pass a test to drive a car yet how many people are reckless, negligent or just shouldn't be allowed on to the highway yet more people die of car accidents than guns per year. Guns are no different, you can pass all the tests but may be negligent.
Regardless criminals don't use gin licenses or care about bystanders. A buddy of mine got caught in a crossfire in detroit visiting his mom after doing a tour of Iraq, he was safer in Iraq at the height of the war on terror than he was in detroit.
In an unregulated sense yes they should. Anyone who wants to carry should at least put in a little time at the range and take a gun safety course. That said I oppose government regulation of guns in any way shape or form. Government has a bad habit of over regulation especially where guns are concerned.
They shouldn't wear guns period. Unless we talk cops and they need month of training not only in how to use it but more importantly how to deescalate a situation.
Yes.. we have this issue with liking govt employees being the least qualified across the board. We only like expanding our budgets for tax cuts that don’t help the majority of us. #wecomplicated
I was a competition shooter and an instructor. You would be shocked at how bad the average cop is as a shooter. There are a few who are enthusiasts and are quite good, a few who are excellent, but most are abysmal.
We'd need to apply those standards to the police, and that will not go well for many of them.
Isn't that the point of a licence and test?
But I suppose Murica gives out firearm "licences" with every happy meal.
I think every state should be allowing open carry. However due to the fact so many people are so anxious I think it should be required that you take a basic safety class and undergo some form of high stress training. So that they aren't just shooting randomly in all directions when they need to use it like so many people seem to.
Everyone who owns a gun should have a certain level of competency. But I don't think it should be legislated.
The thing is that it takes very little training to be safe with a gun. It's not like it's dangerous like a car or anything. A half hour training with a gun is far safer than someone who has been driving a car for ten years.
Safety with a gun is pretty darn simple and easy. Safety with a car is never easy, no matter how much training you have, or how long you've driven.
Yea, I think ohio is nuts for relaxing this. These aren't muskets... and someone decides to use a weapon, others can get killed. it's for their own safety as well as others. Won't know what your skills are until in a stressful moment.
They should first of all undertake a full and thorough psychiatric assessment.
Should have the same skill level as police officers, along with knowing when to shoot and how not to get robbed of the gun in the first place.
Yes just like driving you should be able to operate your device properly and effectively before potentially hurting others
Well, as to my knowledge in where I live, Massachusetts, in accordance with MGL Ch. 140, Sec. 131P (a) all first time firearm license applicants must successfully complete a MA Certified Firearms Safety Course or a Basic Hunter Education Course and submit a certificate of completion with their firearms license application. That would indicate that said person would be trained at some level on how to properly handle a firearm.
Yes , I don't think this is an unreasonable requirement
Yes.
I was 9/10 in the orange in training a few years ago at our city's Citizen's Police Academy. Of course, it wasn't my gun- but one of the.38's of the officers, so it was somewhat heavy for me at full arm extension. It had some lateral pull on the trigger, so my shots clustered at "9-oclock", and one slipped into the light gray.
Shall not be infringed… Florida will get rid of their mandatory training this year if DeSantis keeps his word. Other states have done the same. For me, no training should be required as that starts to infringe. The training could be months long and ridiculous tests as a way of denying some from owning guns. So, no.
No.
"Shall not be infringed."
If you think it's about a militia, the courts disagree with you.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-1/ALDE_00000408/
"In his ruling, Benitez builds on the 2008 Supreme Court case D. C. v. Heller. In that landmark case, the Supreme Court held, as Justice Antonin Scalia wrote, that the amendment protects a right to possess a firearm unconnected to military service and that individuals are free to use such weapons for “traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.”
Most definitely they should have some sort of safety & gun skills
No one has the constitutional right to drive a car. You can't compare the two.
But yes, you can't get a CCW until you've proven a certain level of proficiency with a standard hand gun. That's already a thing
I realize this is a global site, but anyone who knows the US Constitution knows that there can be no limitations on gun ownership of law abiding citizens. 2nd Amendment "shall not be infringed" is clear enough even for dense leftists. Settled law by Heller and McDonald / NYRPA v Bruen.
Turns out they made a mistake 50 year ago that has recently been remedied.
nope, this would seem like a good idea on the surface, but places like New York, California and Illinois would come up with a requirement that the navy seals couldn't pass so they could ensure that only criminals have guns. Do people need a license to make a baby?
The Constitution says you may bear arms. It doesn't say bear arms only if you are trained. So no. Might be smart to train. At least practice. Amazing how you liberals can't read simple English and add to to what you think the Constitution should say. The more degrees you people have the more problems with simple English you have.
Yes. I also think they need to pass a mental test. For mental health
they should have certain skills like passing 5th grade.
apparently that is not enough if they keep saying "merica."
They should have to undergo a mental health assessment.
That wouldn't stop shit. Someone can be totally fine today and become a crazed lunatic a year from now. Most people aren't born with mental health issues
And visa versa is true. You can be a nut case now and be totally fine later.
That's just another excuse to stomp on our rights and make sure no one but the government has access to firearms
They need to know which end the bullet comes out of.
In New York they do have to take a safety class to make sure they know how to handle it properly and shoot decently
We do have the most strictest gun laws also and you can’t even have a gun in the city and that’s where most of the shootings are, go figure
Yeah it’s crazy, so many mass shootings
Yes, their should be qualifications to join a well regulated Militia.
Yes. They should. Every gun owner should be trained.
If one takes the responsibility to carry in public, either open or concealed, one would be wise to be well-practiced with the firearm and be aware of shoot, no-shoot scenarios.
Wait how is this not already a thing? You can literally carry a gun around without training? WTF!!
No. This guy's full of shit
@WanderingLoveWizard How so dipshit? I live in the south and own guns. I can actually walk into a gun show and find a dealer who would be willing to do a “private deal” without any ID or background check at all. ALL LEGAL
I'm not gonna argue with some misinformed lefty on gun rights. It's pointless
@WanderingLoveWizard BECAUSE you can’t.
Anyone carrying a gun in public should be licensed and trained in firearms use
i'm pretty sure that's standard for conceal and carry.
Wait, so I can legally shoot people when I’m on the road?
That’s awfully racist of you.
Now you like statistics?
What percentage of guns owned in America are used to unlawfully kill people?
That’s an idiotic question as “unlawful” requires a conviction. Zimmerman shoulda been unlawful killing Trayvon and Shittenhouse with those dumb rioters.
That’s my point. This law presupposes innocence in gun deaths. Take the theater shooting where some old guy had popcorn tossed on him and he blew the guys brains out. Acquitted on stand your ground.
aww, you're still upset Rittenhouse defended himself against a child molester. You lefties really don't like people standing up for themselves.
I was looking for the option for them not being allowed a gun in public in the first place.
Of course because otherwise it won't save them
I'll get my "OO" when I dispatch a bad guy. Unlike Bond, one will do.
so the next nut case who decides to go on a killing spree can be more effective? xD
Oh boy, your 5,728th post about why people just GOTTA disarm. 🙄
Heaven forbid a woman shoots her rapist. 🤦♂️
Should, yes. Be required to, no.
Be able to shoot like me
Sure why not
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