Should the death penalty methods be ordered by cruelty, and assigned based on the cruelty of the crime?

[Anonymous]

Mainly talking about homicide, Not about nonviolent crimes.

Yes

No

Updates

+1 y

Example: Lethal Injection or Electric Chair

[Aerissa_Jade]

I say yes and let the victims family decide how it is done, if they so want to, no input required just if they want to pick a method, that it be seriously considered.

I have never understood why when a criminal is so violent that they get a nice easy death. Much like the Hi-Fi murders back in the 70's. Seems to me those guys got off way too easy.

If it was up to me, I would give them a choice. Hand them a knife and say, you can kill yourself if not you will be Blood Eagled.

Generally non violent crimes don't end up with the death penalty. I am also a huge fan of if someone can undo what they did, they be given the chance to do that rather than go to prison. Such as a thief repaying their debt rather than going to prison.

Obviously that won't work to undo murders, rapes or other kinds of offenses.

No reason a victim should have a life sentence when the perpetrator does not. As long as a victim has to live with their sentence, so should the one who gave it to them.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Aerissa_Jade I wouldn't even give them the option of killing themself. That would empower them and give them control over the situation. Their victims never had that option.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@Jamie05rhs I think many would find it hard to end their own life though, could be a tough decision to make, to kill yourself OR have someone do something far worse to you.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Aerissa_Jade School shooters kill themselves all the time when they get cornered by the cops and they know they're about to get busted. They're cowards. (That's why they prey on children.)

[Aerissa_Jade]

@Jamie05rhs I'm not talking about them, I'm referring to those in prison waiting on death row.

[Jamie05rhs]

Okay

[NotTacocaT6969]

While this makes more sense, it will never become the norm in the current society.


For some reason they believe that even the most inhumane monsters to ever skulk this earth deserve a painless death…. even after what they did…

[richardcory]

I'm not a fan of the death penalty but if we are going to use it, it should be both painless and gruesome. Guillotine.

I think lethal injection is basically the worst possible option. The criminal is paralyzed so we can't see the agony they are in. Looks like they just fall asleep - yet they are being tortured

If we are willing to kill people, I want it to LOOK like we are killing people.

[Asker]

After joining a gore website I can tell you that eyes move after getting chopped

[Asker]

Lots of demented videos from the middle east/africa/ brazil

[Asker]

Cartel videos from mexico are unforgettable , in the bad way

[Soteris]

There is no moral justification for any death penalty. One of the reasons why is because the government makes mistakes and sentencing innocent people to death is fairly regular. If even one innocent person is executed then quite frankly that is one too many.

[Asker]

I agree partly but I also think the knowledge that one can die horribly will be a better deterrent than losing freedom

[Asker]

That was the purpose of public executions

[Soteris]

Not to sound rude but I can tell you have not actually looked into this subject much. We known that the deterrent of punishment such as prison or the death penalty does not actually reduce future crime and we have known this as an objective fact for a very long time.

The death penalty has more to do with being a political tool rather than being a way to actually combat crime.

[Asker]

you're not rude at all, I never looked into numbers like that, just history

[Asker]

And yes the thought of prison does reduce crime thats obvious

[Asker]

A lot more people would be making money off of drugs and other illegal things, they dont have to be violent. People get real jobs because they know they can go to prison for easy money.

[Asker]

If there was no prison, easy money is worth it

[Soteris]

Again, you would think that but it is simply not the case. I guess the easiest way to explain it, although perhaps not completely accurate, is that criminals do not plan on being caught regardless of what the punishment would be. It matters little to them if the punishment is death or prison if they think they can get away with it.

Either way, the data is pretty clear to there not being any major change in crime based on the punishment. Rather, things that reduces crime is often social policies like helping those in poverty and rehabilitation in prison so that they are less likely to commit a crime in the future.

[Asker]

I have an example. I live in NJ and when I was younger there were only a few illegal marijuana companies. Now that you can't go to prison for a long time for pot in my state there's like a hundred all over my college and social media. Illegal vapes are just a petty example

[Asker]

When I was in highschool you had to break an arm to find one

[Asker]

And all of my friends are years older than me I have never looked for it with people my own age. Adults couldnt find any

[Asker]

Selling it was still illegal but the people who didn't years before now know they can make a crap load of money knowing they won't go to prison for a decade

[Asker]

Nobody wanted that easy money before major prison was taken away

[Soteris]

The reason there are so many marijuana dispensaries after it is being decriminalized is because of capitalism, not because of the punishment being removed. I dont particularly like capitalism but there is no denying that it is very effective at developing markets both new and old.

Since we are sort of going around in circles here ill just point out that there are plenty of studies that we could look at that proves that harsher punishments does not prevent future crime but its fairly dry reading so ill just link an article to start with:
newsroom.unsw.edu.au/.../do-harsher-punishments-deter-crime

[Quackthulu2]

Nah, we should just use exsanguination via rusty knife. Much cheaper and what does it matter if it hurts? They are going to be dead soon anyways.

[Asker]

Hey I just learned a new word thanks :)

[Quackthulu2]

Always glad to help lol.

[Agape93]

I agree with @Quackthulu2

Put them on my work bench, I'll handle the rest. I have plenty of tools, I'll even rust some up nicely for her.

[Asker]

I agree, some people deserve a good hanging but we pay for their food instead

[Agape93]

Yeap. See this is what horrifies me about this "justice system". A man brutally rapes his victim, possibly knocking them up in an anti abortion state and/or giving them diseases and mental trauma. IF the guy goes to prison, the victims taxes now pay for him to live in relative comfort. 3 square meals a day, a bunk, showers, rec time, TV, free medical etc.

[Asker]

Is am part of a few gore sites and in parts of Africa they chop off a rapists dong and puts them inside a car tire and 🔥🔥🔥

[Asker]

I***

[Agape93]

Too easy in my opinion. More show than substance. But not everyone handles vermin the same way

[Asker]

Its for the other predators to watch , super messed up too because parents bring their children to see to teach them a lesson. Im not pulling this put of my butt you can find plenty about it

[Agape93]

I'm not surprised about it. You can find all sorts of shit online

[DryGermanGuy]

Lady, you have some real issues. 😳

[Agape93]

You have no idea lol. Monstrous acts if unremedied in a timely manner, can easily make more monsters.

[msc545]

You have never seen the inside of a prison, have you? I have. You are very wrong.

[Agape93]

You assume a lot. Is every prison like it? No, but way too many are.

[msc545]

You have not seen the inside of a prison. I have. You are quite wrong.

[Agape93]

Again, you assume a lot. You're just a therapist. You're only in there to work and leave.

[msc545]

No, you're assuming a lot

[Agape93]

Says the one who keeps making claims on my life experience and general knowledge.

You yourself once told me you work in a prison doing psychology work. If that's not the case, then you either lied or explained it very poorly.

[msc545]

I make it a point to not even speak to you. I certainly have made no claims on your alleged life experience or vast knowledge.

[Agape93]

Yet you came to MY comment stream. Also, you made those claims twice now, saying I'm wrong and that I've not been inside a prison before. Ontop of that, trying to deflect and say I'm assuming, when you're the one assuming shit.

[Lliam]

Yes. If the accused is 100% guilty without any shadow of doubt. Not just convicted based on circumstantial evidence or beyond "reasonable" doubt.

[msc545]

NO. The Constitution prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment". Your feelings about the crime don't count!

[Snakeyes7]

I don't trust my government enough to not use it against innocent people.

[exitseven]

No, just make it quick and greasy.

[OddBeMe]

No. And this is why the death penalty is wrong.

[Asker]

Nothing wrong with a good hanging

[OddBeMe]

There is actually. We can only ever be 99% sure he didn’t the crime. And that’s a 100% consequence.

[Asker]

1% sucks but a lot of families would be satisfied

[OddBeMe]

You’re willing to let 1% of innocent men be put to death?

[Asker]

If it helps people move on and feel satisfied and adds a scare factor to getting in trouble i personally think its worth it

[OddBeMe]

Wow. That says a lot about you. Me not one innocent person getting executed is worth the death penalty.

[Asker]

We already ruin innocent peoples lives putting them in a cell 80 years

[OddBeMe]

I don’t see how that matters. Innocent is innocent. Men’s they didn’t do the crime. And you want it violently excite them.

[OddBeMe]

*execute

[Asker]

Onbiously i dont want to violently execute normal people. Everyone feels differently🤷‍♂️

[Asker]

obviously

[OddBeMe]

So wait, are you saying you aren’t going to execute the 1% of innocent convicts? Or you are? Simply for emotion?

[Asker]

Well im not executing anybody😂 I just think the benefits outweigh the price thats it

[OddBeMe]

You are saying it’s ok to execute an innocent man if the other 99 are guilty. All for feeling better?

Or we just leave them in jail and let the appeals courts do what they do.

[Asker]

A lot of unfortunate things happen in life i think its worth it , and im not crazy because half or more our country supports it

[Asker]

Do you like my new profile pic?

[OddBeMe]

Just know the butchers bill

Do I know you from another account?

[Jamie05rhs]

Yes; I agree. Great idea!