Which country is the worst for humanity in general?

[Anonymous]

If your choice is not listed below feel free to post a comment of your selected country

Russia

United States

China

North Korea

Germany

Iran

England

[EmyyWolf]

United States because everyone here is fake. Most men have lost all their testosterone. Women have become insane feminists that cater to the left and insane left ideologies. In schools they’re teaching minors, lgbt propaganda. All the food and every food product is heavily processed and fake. All fake and prepackaged. Almost all food has hormones. Almost all food has estrogens.
People are obsessed with their phones. People have no life outside their phone. People are obsessed with technology. If you say something against minorities like against overweight people or lgbt. It’s immediately classified as hate-speech. Most Americans are completely ignorant about the world outside their precious United States. Many of them even think that Africa is a country. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ Many of them think that American is bigger than Brazil. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

All tap water has flouride in it. USA is the only nation that flouridates its water supply. 🤔 THE ONLY ONE ☝️.

In the USA 🇺🇸, you’re basically poor and useless If you don’t possess a high IQ. OR if you don’t have generational wealth passed down to you, by your elders and grandparents and parents. You’re completely poor. And you’ll struggle greatly.

ANY OF THOSE NATIONS LISTED ABOVE. Do not put flouride in their water. They do not have heavily processed food. Many of them have natural street food that is cooked right in front of your face. They don’t put insane ideologies to you. HOWEVER. Depending on the nation. Their laws and law enforcement suck. It’s why Latinos want to get into fake USA with our fake food products. Because law enforcement here actually keeps people safe.

It is what it is 😒😒😒😒🚬

[astrophelle]

I am undecided between Iran and Russia, but I will choose Russia. Neither Russia nor the Russians are good, I don't want to feel like a racist but there is no reason to love Russia and Russians.

[Naydyonov]

Why Russia?

[astrophelle]

@Naydyonov Coz human life is worthless in there and ther are a oligarch country plus Russians are toxic people.

[Naydyonov]

Human life in Russia is worth a lot more than in North Korea. China would be arguable. When comparing globally, life is worse in dozens of countries than in Russia.
As to toxicity.. I don't think so, but if you think so, I suppose you feel roughly the same way about Belarusians & Ukrainians?

[astrophelle]

@Naydyonov Why should I think Ukrainians are toxic? They are not the ones dropping bombs on neighboring countries for no reason.

[Naydyonov]

Because the cultures are fairly similar.
As to dropping bombs, this is a common occurrence. Every country in this list has fought wars for bad reasons. The question is in general. This is a long-term assessment of a country's contribution

[astrophelle]

@Naydyonov yeap every country in this list ""fought"" but Russia still ""fights"". This is the problem I'm talking about.

[Naydyonov]

This is not really true. Iran has been fighting in Syria for years. The US pulled out of Afghanistan only recently. Germany, true, doesn't fight anymore, because it took two world wars to stop them.
North Korea also doesn't fight, but the only country it would fight is South Korea and that country has a security guarantee with America.
China peacefully took over Macau and Hong Kong, but is preparing for armed invasion of Taiwan. Even so, within their own borders, China has 1-2 million Uyghurs in camps, along with hundreds of thousands of Chinese it doesn't like (dissidents, Falun Gong, etc). Environmentally, China is no saint. North Korea only continues its existence because China has continued to assist that country. In fact, Russia has been able to maintain the war primarily due to China buying up the gas & oil not being supplied to Europe.

Every country in this list has contributed to humanity over the course of history in some positive way: culture, art, science, philosophy. North Korea quite uniquely came into existence 70 years ago, destroyed its own Korean culture by replacing it with a communist one, invaded its southern counterpart, and since then has subjugated its people to living standards comparable to the poorest parts of Africa. North Korea has done nothing positive to counterbalance the bad they've done.

The question is in general. Countries exist over long periods of time. There are people still alive who were there when Germany began the world's largest war. Yet, we all recognize that Germany has done a lot of good for humanity too.

[astrophelle]

@Naydyonov www.open.online/.../ look I saw this Russo soldier on the news Ukraine sends him drone to nstructions to surrender them and soldier accepts to surrender and follows the drone, later Russian army doesn't like the surrender of its soldiers so throwing bombs at THEIR OWN SOLDIER. See Russians are such a cruel and emotionless race they even kill their own soldiers, which other country would kill their own soldiers? Plus countries you told me have always attacked people they see as enemies but the Russians are a race that kills even their own soldiers its so horrible and I really don't like those cruel demons but I felt very sorry for this man, there is no continuation of the video in the news but I saw it on twitter this poor man realized that everything was over for him and lay in a ditch and committed suicide.

[astrophelle]

Russian****

[Naydyonov]

British Army, 1940:
On 31 May, the Germans nearly broke through at Nieuwpoort. A few hours later, the 2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards of the 3rd Division, rushed to reinforce the line near Furnes, where the British troops had been routed. ***The Guards restored order by shooting some of the fleeing troops and turning others around at bayonet point.*** The British troops returned to the line and the German assault was beaten back."

According to America's current Military Justice Laws, there are 14 offenses punishable by death, including desertion.

During WW1, the French army executed 918 soldiers for desertion.

During WW2, German soldiers attempting to surrender to the Allies were shot by their own officers. This meant that when German units wished to surrender, they often shot their officers first.

WW1, 306 British soldiers were executed for desertion.

Italian Army, WW1: at least 350 (up to 750) soldiers executed for desertion, failing to follow orders, attempting to surrender to the enemy.

Chinese Civil War: in just one instance, 200 officers & soldiers were executed for mutiny.

US Civil War: ~350 soldiers executed for desertion.

During WW1, Germany executed 18 soldiers for desertion. During WW2, Germany executed 15 000 soldiers for desertion.

During the Continuation War, Finland executed 13 soldiers for desertion or refusing to obey commands.

During WW1, Austro-Hungary executed 1148 of its soldiers.

During WW1, the Armenian soldiers (many thousands) of the Ottoman army were disarmed, transferred to labor-battalions, and later executed.

There are definitely hundreds of more examples from across the world's armies, across wars, that can be given, if they're even known about, about soldiers being shot for desertion or refusing commands. Most examples will be contained within unit reports or memoirs, so not easily found.

In this case, we can't even be fully sure they didn't mistake him for a Ukrainian.

[astrophelle]

@Naydyonov LMAO why are you talking about the wars of years ago? Is 1940 European countries threaten to drop nuclear bombs on their neighbors in 2023? Nope they don't so you can't blame their past mistakes on the present BUT If you want to find a horrible country focus on that country who says they going to drop a nuclear bomb on their neighbor🙃.

[astrophelle]

PLUS you supposta death Ukrainian babies by wanting to justify Russia.

[astrophelle]

Support****

[Naydyonov]

Because you based your answer on what the countries are doing right now even though the question is obviously asking about the actions of each country throughout history. This means assessing dozens or hundreds of years worth of actions.
Your arguments against Russia are time-dependent. Based off your argument, it is worse that Russia has killed a couple dozen thousand people in 2022-2023 than that the Mongols killed dozens of millions of people centuries ago, simply because one event happened a long time ago, and the other is happening today. If the question was "Which is the worst right now?", your answer would make sense. But the question specifically added "in general".

[astrophelle]

@Naydyonov Nope you started talking about world wars to avoid talking about current massacre that Russians are still committing.

[Naydyonov]

Is a massacre of 1000 people committed today worse than a massacre of 1000 people committed yesterday?

[astrophelle]

@Naydyonov Do the massacre committed yesterday give Russians right to kill Ukrainians today?:)

[Naydyonov]

Somewhat depends on perspective. In principle, this is what the US did after 9-11. In retaliation for the mass killing of Americans, it launched 2 invasions in the Middle East and expanded its operations in places like Africa.
From the perspective of Russians, Ukraine had been killing civilians in Donbass from 2014-2022. While factually not wrong, my personal opinion is that it wasn't enough to justify full-scale invasion.
Yet, being realistic, launching 2 invasions to retaliate for nearly 3000 deaths at the cost of 8520 soldiers KIA, 56'312 soldiers wounded, 51'139 soldiers injured, plus 5471 contractors killed and 58'880 wounded or injured is not entirely different from launching an invasion in retaliation for 3400 civilians killed in the Donbass War from the perspective of many regular people. Americans were fairly willing to sacrifice that much and Russians, in their information bubble, are also willing.
This doesn't even include the 84'690 Iraqi & Afgjani allied troops killed and well over 107'000 wounded.

So, from some perspective, humans regularly justify killing today those who killed yesterday. The problem really just becomes whether or not the people who killed yesterday have been properly identified or whether they actually exist at all.

In any case, if a human today is not worth more than a human yesterday, then judging Russia for starting a war resulting in ~10-20k civilian deaths harsher than Germany starting a war resulting in like 40-45 million civilian deaths is a strange take.

[Asker]

@Naydyonov the civilians killed in the Donbass from 2014-2022 were also killed by the Russians. The Wagner group was behind that false flag operation.

[Anonymous]

Man there's a lot of jealous people here. I can't believe ANYONE would choose the United States with a straight face. There has been no greater force for good in the history of mankind than the United States.

Now to answer your question I picked N. Korea because of it's utter disregard for human life. To the Kim family North Koreans are nothing more than resource.

China is another human rights violator. But unlike N. Korea it at least administers it's people. Even though it poisons them at the same time all for the "greater good" the state. And the Chinese people it's in thier culture to subservient so they just take it as the natural order.

Russia is another with a complete disregard for human life. The difference is Russians don't feel the same way the Chinese do. The problem with Russians is after living under the yoke of Communism for the past 100 years. And being ruled by Tsar's before that, the Russian people do not have the will to fight for themselves. Not to mention thier natural distrust for outsiders makes them decide they're happier with the davil they know (Putin) then the devil they don't.

Iran isn't so bad. The problem with Iran is thier culture. They're a theocracy. So anything that doesn't fit into Islam they distrust. Which means anything from the west. They really weird because while they embrace many technologies, they'd rather remain as whole like it's 1500 years. Ago.

[Asker]

I think it's the woke culture that America has tried to outsource to the rest of the world that people hate so much. It's a fair point in my opinion. American culture effects humanity a lot even if it's not out-right warring with its neighbors. My choice would be Iran b/c I believe their religious doctrine and leadership is so bad, they strike me as the type of country that really would hit the nuclear button.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not disagreeing with you. When you're the world's lone superpower you're going to make enemies. It's impossible to be everything for everybody. But I do think if you stack America up against any empire in history we are the most compassionate. Whenever there is a world disaster we always lead the world in aid. I think where we get into trouble a lot of times is our foreign policy vs our election cycles. Every 4 years. We have a new election. This is good., but it can create policy shifts. Where we're doing one thing, make promises etc. Then 4 years. Later the next administration doesn't want to honor the previous administration's policies.

[Berethor]

Iran is worse, insane islamists who want to get nuclear bomb, nothing is worse than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahsa_Amini_protests

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran

[Asker]

yeah Iran might actually be my choice even with the crazy shit going down between Ukraine and Russia right now.

[Berethor]

Russia and Iran have good relations so it don't matter much. Iran is totally insane.

en.wikipedia.org/.../Iran%E2%80%93Russia_relations

[strateguy632]

to ber but pakistan... is even "islamic in official country name" and have atom bomb but have not used it.

[exitseven]

china. They have a totalitarian government and have very lax environmental laws. They pollute the air water and land with all kids or toxic material. They have suicide nets set up so workers don't jump to their deaths rather that work in some of there slave shops.

[strateguy632]

to exit, yay you beat me to what i will publish soon. i agree with you and that is the worst

[exitseven]

@strateguy632 There is a container ship that is bigger than 3 football fields. It goes between China and LA. It shows up at the Port of Los Angeles practically awash in cheaply made Chinese goods and goes back empty. I was the only one that saw the problem with that until Trump was in the White House.

[AngryCarl2]

Venezuela. It's been proved by science. Of course North Korea isn't on the list because they won't let people in or out to report on conditions there. But the fat man with the bad haircut seems to be doing okay.

[Asker]

its been proved by science lol. Can't argue with that. I know nothing about Venezuela other than they are poor and probably shouldn't be b/c of all the oil they have.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

At least among those places, the last place I want to be in is North Korea.

[Asker]

I would agree... living there would probably be hell, but it's too small a place to have that much of an impact on the rest of the world to be considered the most problematic country for humanity. Which is why that probably wouldn't be my choice.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

Was thinking about that angle but it's too difficult for me to calculate impacts on such a scale. I'm even of the opinion that maybe, just maybe, Nazi germany had positive impacts on the world. I have no idea! Not denying the atrocities of the Holocaust. I'm just saying I can't calculate the impacts and opportunity costs of such a thing.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

Or to use example that might get me in less trouble, atom bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I am from Japan and I think maybe even the atom bombs might have been beneficial to Japan and rest of the world. I don't know! It ended our imperialist regime. It's so unfortunate that so many innocent people had to die but I do know Japanese had no problems even less than 1500kcal/day, turning former schoolgrounds into sweet potato fields and eating insects to survive, and even committing suicide to win war... never surrender! So maybe only way to stop the needless violence is drop atom bomb and kill a whole bunch of women and children. But I dunno.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

What I do think is these Western feminist ideology in countries like US might be as dangerous as atom bombs. They tear apart families. That ideology that promotes ideas like patriarchy (with marriage considered a patriarchal institution) and white privilege and male privilege and "my body, my choice", that men can get pregnant too, etc, might have the effect of killing more people than even Hiroshima atom bomb.

[Asker]

yeah , its really an impossible question to answer I guess. It's interesting how Japan is now an ally of the US given the history of that atrocity.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

I think two big reasons for that is that Japanese government fed so much propaganda to Japanese citizens like that Americans are evil people who will have no mercy and kill Japanese children and rape Japanese women. A lie that big starts to become very obviously untrue at some point.

Other is that Americans helped to rebuild Japan. For example, my father survived very harsh starvation in WW2 and lost his sister to starvation and had to live on insects, fish bones, sometimes things out of the garbage. But first person who give him his first real meal was American soldier who gave him many cans of food. That's what inspired him to learn English and marry my mother (she is American).

[strateguy632]

you are from japan? and do not get angry at American history? that is a relief. however my opinion about those issues is unusual. 1. the atom bombs did not cause japan emperor to surrender nor lessen emperor authority on August 8 and 9. the war continued "FACT after August 8" even after the second atomic bomb, until soviets invaded the industrial area south of amur river.
2, despite my bias pro u. s. and my desire that people not get angry at u. s. still in this issue, the "lack of sanctity of life" in that issue horrified me. after they knew that "poison gas" is inexcusable in war "even to try to end a war" geneva convention, then a wide atom bomb is even worse than poison gas. i protest that truman dnc ordered it and his excuse about destroying industry does not match the large area of the bomb results. i am not saying this to make people hate u. s. but that some americans oppose the d. n. c. lack of sanctity of life. the alternative to the end the war is in my blog. although nobody can know but i think rnc president would have sanctity of life not to use the atomic bomb.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

@strateguy632 I didn't know that aspect of #1! But I think very few Japanese who even lived through that period hold hostilities towards Americans.

#2 is something I need to research much more.

[nudeNhorny]

USA, Russia are both the worst
North Korea and Iran are mostly about internal issues, like Democracy and freedom, but meddling in other countries Affairs, inavsion, destroying other countries, are USA and Russia's speciality.

[strateguy632]

meddling? like when south vietnam asked for help? they are long forgotten. what about helping kuwait? or kurds in north iraq?

[nudeNhorny]

Help? 😂 Yes they helped a lot, thanks to USA these countries are all now democratic, free, and wealthy.
Please enough with the double standards what Russia is doing now in Ukraine is the same what USA did in Iraq in 2003,
When others are doing it it's invasion but when USA doing it it's the knight in shining armor coming to liberate poor countries.
This hypocrisy is what making the world much worse place day by day, no one done more harm to the world than USA, if people decide to blind their eyes about that, that doesn't hide the facts.

[strateguy632]

the pollution from the industry and huge population of china is the worst for humanity.

[jjj101010]

Currently probably North Korea but historically there have been plenty of bad ones. The Romans murdered loads under their empire and I think the Egyptians had a lot of slaves too

[Asker]

good point. If we're going by all of history maybe the Mongols would be my choice.

[jjj101010]

Yeah they were ruthless too

[jjj101010]

Although the Romans, like the British, although they stole and killed a lot. They left an infrastructure behind for the citizens of the countries they invade. Roads, rail, legal systems etc

[Alexandrubaschet08]

People are really idiots if they belive Russia is better then USA

[Anonymous]

North Korea and China. Libs want us to become them.

[Jersey2]

So for those that said the US, why?

[strateguy632]

they, not me, complained about the "meddling" and focus on the negative destruction in any war blaming u. s. for other people actions and bombs. instead of the big picture.

[Jersey2]

@strateguy632 That’s sounds like something they would say. I hope they aren’t US citizens at least.

[katiesmuff]

I picked North Korea