Why do we have more sympathy for fetuses than born children?

[OddBeMe]

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Is not "sympathy for fetus," is want control over woman. That's why not just want abortion bans, want birth control & sex ed shit banned too. Which leads to more unwanted pregnancies thus abortions. Nobody who cared about fetuses would want birth control or sex ed to go down; they'd want it more comprehensive, more accessible. So it's obviously not about the fetuses.

[OddBeMe]

(Tries to retort)
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[strateguy632]

control over women? lady has many rights except when they want to HARM another human, same as i can't punch anybody i dont have "rights" for harming others and neither should anyone else. the fetus is undoubtedly human the only doubt is which week of development, therefore whatever france legislated we should align with france. fetus feel pain who would want to inflict pain?

[strateguy632]

why france because they are modern and civilized so we should align with them

[msc545]

Nobody wants sex or sex ed banned. Abortions are murder - so yes ban them.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

The same party that bans abortion also bans books with sex ed. Bans teaching about sex ed. Bans birth control medications. Bans life saving surgery for pregnant people. Etc. You can't seriously claim that they care about unborn babies when they constantly fight against educating and aiding people to prevent unwanted and dangerous pregnancies.

[Apple1996]

Yeah you see people caring so much about unborn childern yet those same people turn their heads to ignore school shootings. Like they don't give a shit about babies/kids/life. They just wanna control women and take away their choices

[strateguy632]

to apple those who believe sanctity of life do not make that distinction that you wrote. the issue is equating fetus and not ignoring fetus feels pain.
pro choice usualy bring up criminals but criminals did something bad while fetus did not "even have a chance". about kids as if no legislation exists to punish those who kill kids.

[strateguy632]

i mean there alraedy is legislation for kids after birth so the need is to add before birth that is the emphasis.

[Avicenna]

What makes you think that? I don't see fetuses getting Medicaid, free education, WIC, etc. Now, what you're seeing is a recognition that it's a life-or-death matter for a fetus if its mother wants to abort it, whereas a child that has been born is presumably being protected by its family.

[strateguy632]

we? if you feel that, then you know why, but who is we. watch this video, four years ago, where EQUATED the same baby after birth is the one that was inside, "moments before." watch this video see how they responded to "prevent pain"

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cXRTnD7JEWQ

[Siri137]

It could be because children who have already been born aren't the target of groups of people who are out to kill them, as is the case with "foetuses" (a. k. a. children yet to be born).

[strateguy632]

true and because laws already exist for punishing those who murder kids the change is for before birth from whenever the fetus feels pain.

[provokeesmokee]

I don't think most people do.

Most folks know fetuses aren't humans, and care about live human beings.

Catholics, Christians, Anti-Choicers, and Republicans don't care about any human life other than exclusively their individual lives.

[strateguy632]

to pro, i guess you are speaking about yourself, you know your own feelings "not care" , but do not try to speak for other people, what they feel , you can't know. also are fetuses human? what d. n. a. is in them? a plant? or the mother, her body? neither, are you surprised? it is human by its d. n. a. not by spirit but by genetic science.

[Stoner710]

No we have sympathy for both unborn child and born children. Both are equally important. And since it is illegal to kill somebody once they are out of a 6 inch birth canal it should be illegal to kill that same child before is born.

[LazerBean]

I don't, and considering you support ripping unborn humans apart you clearly don't either.

[OddBeMe]

What is a person?

[gothbxtch]

because prolifers are stupid, mean hypocrites.

[strateguy632]

mean? did you need fetus can feel pain? who is realy the mean one inflicting pain and who is trying to prevent pain.

[strateguy632]

typo need=know

[Lauliss]

We have empathy for both. There's many centers helping mothers with their born children and unborn ones.

[OddBeMe]

We say unborn like sci fi says undead.

[Lauliss]

Unborn - Human in the womb.

[OddBeMe]

When do they become a person?

[strateguy632]

to odd content, unborn, pro life mean by that, pre-born simpler than prenatal like not born so un. content person, when? from the moment the d. n. a. is human and differs from mother. do you know when that is? also when it has nervous system and can feel pain, then women wanna inflict pain they must be stopped. but dnc does not care about the victim pain. like sadist.

[Lauliss]

They're human beings, that's what matters. That's why they matter.

[Lauliss]

@strateguy632 Agree.

[Agape93]

No idea. That's like caring more about a stray cancerous cell more than the melanoma. Both are awful but one is more important to handle

[bobthe1st]

I don't think we do actually, fetuses we feel sad for the excitement never happening for the parents. But children we feel sadder because a bond has grown more.

[Anonymous]

That is a specific question for abortion enemies. Normal human beings aren't that way.

[strateguy632]

no, it is "technique" add "why" to a false accusation and pretend it is a question, even if false. so we cannot trust the asker. not "for abortion enemies" if false.

[strateguy632]

for example where no bias "why is the sky always pink" that is this loaded question.

[OddBeMe]

@strateguy632 so is “unborn person”. A person is born.

[Anonymous]

You can tell my why you do, since you say we, it obviously includes yourself. Otherwise you would have specified. Its possible to have sympathy for both porn children and fetuses.

[OddBeMe]

Porn children are the worst. Lol

[OddBeMe]

No I definitely have sympathy for starving and beaten kids in our society. And of fetuses become babies sometime in the third trimester. At the very least before labor, then counting backward.

From my research, I don’t see brain or nervous system activity until well inot second trim. So 99% of abortions are fine to me. I think the 20 week ban could be a healthy mid ground with religious fcks who think they have souls.

[strateguy632]

hmm into second term... seems like agreeing to rnc that dnc is wrong for allowing "moments before birth" or the virginia governor statement about abortion etc. check the french law which week is the limit? we should align with modern and civilized france.

[msc545]

An unborn child is even more vulnerable than one who has been born since women will often try to kill it.

[strateguy632]

like helpless. and needs help.

[Snakeyes7]

Where is the left getting such a notion? I always ask this but they never give me a straight answer.

[gorydetails]

We don’t. Next question?

[Fuentes]

Ask all the liberals this

[Anonymous]

Republicans do.

[strateguy632]

your guess was wrong.

[LiamJHayden]

We don't.