Why do pro-lifers prioratize a fetus over an already alive woman?

[chocolatetwopointo]

[Lliam]

Because they are irrational. They don't think women can make rational decisions and blame them for anything they do sexually. They think women who have sex before marriage are sluts.
They will rationalize their irrational beliefs no matter what facts are presented. It often has to do with whacko religious beliefs.

But you're right, they prioritize a fetus that hasn't even developed a brain or nervous system yet over women and children.

[Anonymous]

where did you get this stupid idea that women are made disposable over a fetus?

this isn't a zero-sum game

the unborn baby's health/life is tied directly to the mother's health/life. a dead woman would result in a dead fetus and vice-versa

both lives are to be prioritized but pro-abortionists want the baby to be deleted in the process out of inconvenience

meanwhile men are made disposable over both women and their unborn going as far back as the earliest military drafts but feminists would rather we shut up about that because it makes them look bad and hypocritical with the whole body autonomy BS

[chocolatetwopointo]

women can die while they give birth and the baby can keep living. And a baby can die while the woman is alive. what are you even talking about now? y'all pro-lifers never make sense

[Opinion Owner]

no that's due to negligence on the part of the doctors. neither should be dying when doctors take proper care instead of delaying safe premature births

mother and unborn baby's health/life are directly tied to one another. this is a scientific fact

[chocolatetwopointo]

but sometimes they die bc of conditions or their body js can't take it, wdym with directly tied to one other?

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Because pro-life people enjoy the power that comes with giving a voice to the voiceless, and will push aside anything that takes that power away from them.

[d0x000]

I certainly don't "enjoy the power" that comes from giving a voice to the voiceless (the foetus).

[chocolatetwopointo]

why do u care more ab the fetus* than an already alive woman?

[d0x000]

I don't care more about the foetus. I care about the foetus and the woman. But when the woman wants to kill the foetus, then I have to advocate for it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

its fetus* why tho? do u want that kid to grow up in an unloving home? it doesn't even have a brain? and if u care so much ab an unborn fetus, why dont u go adopt every single kid at an adoption centre if u care so much?

[d0x000]

Because a foetus is a developing human being. I don't want a kid to grow up in an unloving home. And that's just an excuse, why should a person be hostile towards children in the first place. Don't you think that's a problem? I can't adopt every single kid at an adoption centre.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg its ”FETUS” spell it right man. bc children fucking suck man id kms if i was forced to have a kid. u can start with one at least, and give them the love their parents never gave

[d0x000]

"Foetus" is the British spelling, "Fetus" is the American spelling. And we use the English convention. Don't be ignorant. If children suck, why have on in the first place?

[d0x000]

British* spelling convention.

[chocolatetwopointo]

thats the point, they’re having an abortion bc they dont want the fucking kid, and if abortion is banned ill have no choice but have to give birth to it or die trying to abort it on my own.

[d0x000]

Yeah, but why have one? I mean, you don't get pregnant on the fly. You must procreate in order to do so.

[d0x000]

You should stop procreating.

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc mistakes happen, maybe she got raped, or she was drunk and now regrets it, a simple mistake should not be punished by a lifetime of punishment. Im not procreating and never been pregnant.

[chocolatetwopointo]

if we ban abortions we need to ban men from leaving the woman he got pregant. Bet thats inconvenient for u..

[d0x000]

You don't need to ban men from leaving the women. You need to ban men from leaving the child. In fact, it's a law here that the father of a child must be responsible for the child.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah thats amazing, but in most places after a man finds out he got a woman pregnant he leaves and usually has no concequences.

[d0x000]

So is that your reason to abort? It seems like you're blaming the wrong people. Why don't you advocate for the father to be responsible for the child rather than just aborting it? I guess abortion is easier, isn't it?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah bc i hate kids and that kid would be miserable. people should live their life and a clump of cells should not ruin that.

[chocolatetwopointo]

bro if u want a kid that fucking bad js get one? why do u care so fucking much about a clump of cells who doesn't even know it exists?

[d0x000]

You hate kids? So you want to abort a foetus because you hate kids? Why don't you just stop procreating then, and don't have kids in the first place rather than having kids and then killing them? We're just as much a clump of cells as a foetus is.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah, if i got pregnant i would have an abortion, bc that kid would grow up unloved if i had it. im not procreating as I've already told u. and once again, a fetus is a parasite, doesn't have a brain and doesn't even know it exists yet and it can't even feel anything.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and also, mistakes happen, no protection is 100% and people should be able to have sex and get pleasure without having to think ab smth smaller than a bean, being aborted.

[d0x000]

Oh, so it's about chasing pleasure and not facing the consequences?

[d0x000]

That's why you're advocating for abortions? So people can keep enjoying sex? Is that it?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah a little, sex is a need for most people

[chocolatetwopointo]

no im advocating for abortions bc every woman should have a choice and not be forced to do smth she doesn't wanna do and so that kids shouldn't have to die bc their body can't handle giving birth to a baby after they were raped.

[d0x000]

A little? So why bring up that argument if it constitutes mostly a minute portion of your reasoning? Sex is not a need for most people. People won't die if they don't have sex.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay? then dont have sex if u dont want it, ill do whatever i want and have a choice in what i do later, bc a minute of pleasure shouldn't be punished with a lifetime of torture

[d0x000]

So would it be right to advocate for women to kill their children if they don't want to have them anymore and she wants her life back? Rape accounts for about 1% of abortion cases, you can't use it as the general rule.

[chocolatetwopointo]

1% is still a lot it should be 0%. Yeah bc as I've said, a minute of pleasure shouldn't be punished by a lifetime of torture

[d0x000]

Now see what you're doing? You were advocating for other people. Now it's all about yourself. A minute of pleasure is still pleasure. You just don't have self-control, that's all.

[d0x000]

Yes, so then the discussion should now be on the topic of abortions with respect to rape, not abortions generally. Because you can't create a law based on the 1% that affects the rest of the 99%. You make a law for the 1% and only for the 1%.

You think a minute of pleasure is worth a life? That's really pathetic.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg, okay do you want kids?

[chocolatetwopointo]

that 1% is still important, why do you care more about AN UNBORN FETUS than an already born traumatized woman? YOU’RE fucking pathetic if u think that way

[d0x000]

Yes, I want kids.

[chocolatetwopointo]

do u have any already? and if u didn't want kids, would u js never have sex in ur life ever?

[d0x000]

And I never said the 1% is not important. Now you're just twisting my words. I said "so then the discussion should now be on the topic of abortions with respect to rape, not abortions generally. Because you can't create a law based on the 1% that affects the rest of the 99%. You make a law for the 1% and only for the 1%."

Read please, don't answer my replies without reading what I said. There's nothing pathetic in what I said. I only said the discussion should shift to the women who were raped.

[chocolatetwopointo]

you’re basically saying that u dont care ab them💀

[d0x000]

No, I recently got married. So we're still trying. If I didn't want kids, I would still have sex. And if we did eventually end up with a kid, I won't abort it. I would take responsibility.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay so you’d make that kid live in an unloved home, maybe get abused, neglected? bc that will happen when somebody who doesn't want kids has a kid, it will always end like that.

[d0x000]

No, I won't. I won't abuse the kid, nor would I not love him/her. Kids get abused even if their parents didn't want to get an abortion. Now you're just enabling abusive parents.

[chocolatetwopointo]

it will most likely happen tho, if somebody doesn't want kids but still has one, that kid won't have a good childhood. people who abuse their kids anyways usually regret having them or are js aggressive people in general.

[d0x000]

Again, you're just enabling abusive parents. You're saying it's okay to be an abusive parent if you didn't want your child in the first place or if you're an aggressive parent. Like I keep saying, don't procreate if you don't want a child. It's that simple. No amount of life is worth your short-lived pleasure.

[chocolatetwopointo]

when did i say it was okay? stop putting words in my mouth and read for once in ur life. Im js saying that its going to happen

[chocolatetwopointo]

and what if ur mistress got pregnant? would u own up to it, tell ur wife and get a divorce and lose ur kids bc ur mistress can't get an abortion?

[d0x000]

I don't have a mistress.

[chocolatetwopointo]

keyword ”if”, all men say that lmao💀

[d0x000]

You said "what if your mistress gets pregnant?" implying I already have a mistress. And you're the one claiming I need to go back to school to learn how to read. See how pathetic this is?

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh my fucking god💀 imagine u have a mistress then ffs, u can't be this bored in life man

[d0x000]

I don't imagine such things. There's no point.

[chocolatetwopointo]

OMFG BE A LITTLE CREATIVE THEN ONCE IN UR LIFE😭 ur so fucking annoying can u js imagine and have fun for once in ur boring fuckinh life, god i hate men

[d0x000]

Why, so you can come up with scenarios in that hypothetical line of thinking? Not everyone has whorish thoughts like you do. People can be decent, and I think you're having problems with that.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay so im a whore now? men cheat the most and i bet one day you will too, and when abortion is banned and ur mistress is pregnant u won't be so happy

[d0x000]

I never said that. I said you have whorish thoughts. Yeah, you definitely have a problem with decent people. Now you're just triggered because I refused to think like a whore.

[d0x000]

I don't have a mistress, and I never will. So you're just projecting in some hypothetical space that does not exist.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah thats what all men say sadly.

[d0x000]

Why sadly? Do you want men to have mistresses? Do you want to be a mistress?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what? i said its sad all men say they won't cheat but still do? r u slow or sum?

[d0x000]

All men? How do you know that?

I'm not slow or sum, whatever sum means. You just don't even understand what you're saying. You're trying to sound smart, but it's not working out.

[chocolatetwopointo]

sum = something, fkn millenials istg. google who’s more likely to cheat lmfao

[d0x000]

Right, I don't know why being illiterate is cool. Anyways, more likely to cheat doesn't mean all men cheat. Yep, it's official. You're not bright.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg men make me wanna rip out my hair out and kms, no wonder u had to get an arranged marriage

[d0x000]

It's over kid, enough.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfgg its sick how uncreative u are man💀

[Anonymous]

We don't. If given the choice of the mother dying or the child dying, most men would obviously choose to save the mother.

But it's really not a fair comparison because the vast majority of abortions are done as a matter of convenience, not because of any threat to the mother's life or health. Most abortions are just after-the-fact birth control for reasons like not wanting a child to get in the way of career. Not valid reasons for ending a human life.

[chocolatetwopointo]

who said anything ab men? so a woman needs to be risking her life to have full rights over her own body?

[Opinion Owner]

I'm a man, so I answered from a man's perspective.

The whole "her body, her choice" thing is complete bullshit because, like I said, it's typically about convenience, nothing to do with a woman's body. More accurately, it's really "her life, her choice". But you feminist nutters can't say that because it opens a can of worms, because in every case it is also "his life, his choice".

Oh, and what about the baby's body, hmm?

[chocolatetwopointo]

there's no baby tho, its a fetus💀

[Opinion Owner]

When does a fetus become a human life? Please be very specific and provide some scientific evidence to back it up.

[chocolatetwopointo]

according to helloclue.com/.../what-is-the-difference-between-an-embryo-a-fetus-and-a-baby a fetus becomes a baby at birth

[Opinion Owner]

So you would be okay aborting the day before the baby's due date? That's fucking disgusting! You are an awful person.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how is that disgusting?💀 and u can only have an abortion in a short amount of time, but personally i think its a baby unless its born, so yes i think it should be able to be aborted the day before, why dont u think that way? and unless ur having a c-section u can't exactly know the date.

[Opinion Owner]

There is literally no difference between a baby born today and that same unborn baby yesterday. You are killing an innocent child whether you kill it yesterday or today. I can't imagine being so dishonest that you can't acknowledge that. Un fucking real.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i honestly dont give a fuck lmao, fuck them kids, if the mother doesn't want it, thats her choice

[Opinion Owner]

So you are okay with a mother killing her child if she doesn't want it? What a disgusting person!

[chocolatetwopointo]

thats kinda the point of abortion lmao💀

[Opinion Owner]

Yes, killing innocent children for the convenience of the mother is indeed the point of abortion.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah bc the mother should always come first

[Opinion Owner]

You believe the mother's convenience should come before the life of her child? What kind of monster thinks that way?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what if she was dying? what if she can't afford it? what if the dad left? fuck that kid

[chocolatetwopointo]

if u care so much ab the aborted fetuses why dont u go adopt a kid in adoption centres huh? whats stopping u from doing that? do u not care for them once they’re born?

[Opinion Owner]

I'll answer your questions after you answer the one I asked first. Do you believe the mother's convenience should come before the life of her child?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes, her body her choice

[Opinion Owner]

Disgusting

[chocolatetwopointo]

how exactly?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what if ur wife, daughter, sister or mom was forced to have a kid against her will? would it still be disgusting?

[Opinion Owner]

ANYONE who chooses to kill their own child inside their womb is disgusting.
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[chocolatetwopointo]

why? what if the woman was about to die? what if she can't raise it? what if she abuses it after its born?

[Opinion Owner]

As I've said, if the mother's life or health are threatened, abortion is justified.

If a mother has an infant and she can't raise it, is she justified in killing it? THINK about it.

If there is a risk that a mother might abuse her young child, should she kill it? THINK!

I mean, I know you're only 16, but my 12 year old niece has better arguments than you do. I know you have a brain. USE it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

u can't kill smth thats not alive man. Yes its better that kid never know it was alive than being alive and being abused. okay explain to me how im so stupid? ill wait and try to THINK.

[chocolatetwopointo]

this is what ur supporting. ur disgusting. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdL7KkLY/

[chocolatetwopointo]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdLvBGVW/ disgusting

[phraseology]

It only takes one functioning cell to be alive. Clearly you failed biology and got put into environmental science.

[chocolatetwopointo]

whats that got to do with anything?

[phraseology]

It's funny how that works. In the school system if you are of average intelligence or greater you pass biology and move on to chemistry and physics. As a result you understand what life is. You go on to maybe become a scientist or an engineer and likely are a Republican or an Independent. If you're mildly retarded you end up failing biology and can't comprehend what life is, and you get tossed in environmental science to get a science credit. As a result you become obsessed with climate change and become a Democrat.

[chocolatetwopointo]

uhm ok? and ur point is? i didn't even fail biology but ok💀

[phraseology]

Sure you didn't. You can't fool me. I'll quote you and we'll see if you can understand what is wrong with what you said, "Why do pro-lifers prioratize a fetus over an already alive woman?". If one cell is alive, and a fetus is made of many cells, then the fetus is also already alive. So both the fetus and the woman are already alive. That's not to mention that the fetus life is not prioritized over a woman life, because the reality is both lives are treated equally if the child is allowed to live just like the woman. If the fetus' life was being prioritized then the women would be killed after the birth of the child.

[phraseology]

*did...

[chocolatetwopointo]

i hope yk even if a fetus was considered an alive baby id still support abortion, the same if the mother aborted it at the near end of her pregnancy lmao. The point is the woman is now traumatized, probably can't afford food or a nice life for the baby, might even abuse the kid

[phraseology]

I know you're a cold blooded murderer. It's easy to spot villains like you. What did you think I'd be surprised that you want to give blood sacrifices to Moloch? This isn't my first rodeo...

[chocolatetwopointo]

what now?💀 did ur mom tell u she wished she aborted u or sum?

[phraseology]

Nah my mom's like your family. She's a good lady. Nice projection though...

[chocolatetwopointo]

”My mom’s like your family” huh?💀 what would i b projecting ab? im literally saying abort should be a thing?

[phraseology]

*"not like"

[chocolatetwopointo]

what do yk ab my family tho?💀

[phraseology]

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym? u dont even know my family bro? this is such rage bait istg

[phraseology]

You've shown who you are, thus you've shown who your parents are. All children learn basic morality from their family. Kids go through a rebellious period in their teens were some lines are crossed, but even the most misbehaved children have hard moral lines they learned from their family that they won't cross because they know better. So it's pretty easy to see who your family is. I've taught kids before and met with their parents. With experience it becomes obvious how fucked up kid's parents are just by looking at their children.

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so if i dont want my 10 year old child traumatized from having to give birth to her rape baby, im a terrible person? you have to be fucking kidding me. you’re putting the women and girls of the world in danger by thinking we should ban abortion.

[phraseology]

See that's telling more about your family... Rape babies are a normal part of your family's lifestyle. They probably passed you around satanic orgies when you were a little kid to get you impregnated so they could sacrifice your children to Moloch. Normal people don't go around raping people or spending too much thought about being raped. They keep good company and lead normal lives with realtively healthy relationships with other normal people.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay what the actual fuck is wrong with you? you’re not mentally okay. u dont even know my family so wtf r u talking ab? ur projecting so bad istg. what the actual fuck are you talking about?

[chocolatetwopointo]

god ur the reason everybody hates men istg, i feel so fucking bad for ur future children, bet you’ll rape them to death.

[phraseology]

There you go again projecting... Most people don't hate men, it's just your LGBTQ+ echo chamber and remember they're the one's "coming for your children" and repeatedly being arrested for child rape and trafficking. Like I said, your beliefs tell me all about you and those around you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

HOW am i projecting? explain to me, im waiting. Everyone hates men like you. what the fuck does the lgbtq have to do with this? Okay so me being realistic makes me a rape baby? BE FUCKING FOR REAL. Okay, so if ur 10 yr old was going out and wearing a small skirt and crop top, would u let her? if not, why?

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay so ur homophobic, misogynistic and i bet ur racist too

[chocolatetwopointo]

did you know that EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, has an experience with SA or assult, usually by a man? if they dont have one, they know a woman with one.

[phraseology]

You're a satanist. It's part of your religious beliefs. You and people like you make up maybe 4-6% of the population. The other 94-96% of the population think your views are very unusual. The large majority do not think like you. Most people are not living their daily lives fearing being raped and contemplating murdering rape baby children. For all intensive purpose you live in a state of psychosis. You've been programmed by the insane to think and act in a particular way. Being that those sorts of actions are part of your culture, you embody those beliefs and live in a constant state of fear.

[chocolatetwopointo]

bro im not even fucking religious what the fuck did u get that from?

[chocolatetwopointo]

trust me EVERY SINGLE WOMAN is terrified of being raped every single day, oh but ur a man u have no fucking worry in the world

[Gym_Bro]

@phraseology despite having my doubts whether your account is sincere or not due to certain points I disagree with so much, it really does make some of the most sensible posts on the entire site and saying it better than I could have.

I have lately put aside the traditional religious ideas of the soul, the idea of reincarnation and karma I replaced with something rare and really esoteric, and even if I go further to just pretend that there's no such thing as spiritual and imagine all that shit leftists' minds are shaped into - I still find it difficult to see myself making the decision to cut out my own fetus.

And the phobia of "animal cruelty" that makes you want to harm people simply for eating the meat of animals who were put out faster than nerves can register pain?

It's like they suddenly believe that the animal has a metaphysical soul or something, don't they?

No. They simply don't think.

[d0x000]

We don't. Why do we need to prioritize one over the other?

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc one is an already human being with a bright future, and one is a clump of cells.

[d0x000]

A human being is a clump of cells too.

[chocolatetwopointo]

but one is alive

[chocolatetwopointo]

a fetus is a parasite basically

[d0x000]

A foetus is also alive. That's why you abort it. You can't abort something that's not alive.

[chocolatetwopointo]

as i said, a fetus is basically a parasite.

[d0x000]

Are you a parasite?

[chocolatetwopointo]

no, since lm not a fetus

[chocolatetwopointo]

smartest man fr

[d0x000]

No, you were a parasite at some point, why should you be any different now?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes, when i was a fetus i needed my mom, i took her energy in the womb. now i dont. do you know what a parasite is?

[d0x000]

Yes, I know. But I also know that a parasite in the traditional sense will always remain a parasite. For example, parasitical bacteria doesn't become a mutualist.

[d0x000]

In fact, at the moment, you could also be considered a parasite.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how could u be considered a parasite? i dont need my moms energy?

[d0x000]

But you are dependent on your mom's resources in order to survive. I mean, you're not fully independent enough to survive. If you think that a foetus is a parasite, so is an actual child, because children depend on their parent's resources to survive. If the mom at that point feels like she wouldn't want to have her child alive anymore, then ending it shouldn't be a problem, right?

[chocolatetwopointo]

nah tbh rn i could move out and id be totally fine. The only reason im still here is bc my parents want me here lmao. An actual child isn't INSIDE their mother and taking her rescources and energy. Might sound the same but its really not. After its born its considered a baby, so then it would be murder

[d0x000]

What's the difference between a child that has been born and a child that hasn't been born? A child that has just been born couldn't survive alone though, it needs its mother to survive just as much as a foetus does. Then why is the former called murder and the latter not?

[chocolatetwopointo]

one is a fetus one is a baby, hope that helps! Bc a baby doesn't take energy and rescources the same way as they did as a fetus.

[d0x000]

It doesn't have to be the same resources, but the process is the relatively the same. If I left a new born baby on it's own, will it be able to survive?

[chocolatetwopointo]

It would survive longer than a fetus would without its mother at least

[d0x000]

It doesn't matter, it won't survive. That's the point. It doesn't make it less of a parasite.

[chocolatetwopointo]

it kinda does tho

[d0x000]

How? If a parasite can't survive without it's host, what makes a foetus and a baby different?

[chocolatetwopointo]

OMFG I've TOLD U LIKE 5 TIMES NOW

[d0x000]

Which is?

[chocolatetwopointo]

im so fucking tired of you, go READ

[d0x000]

You mean "a baby doesn't take energy and rescources the same way as they did as a fetus" and "It would survive longer than a fetus would without its mother at least"?

Those aren't points. A parasitic virus doesn't take energy and resources the same way a foetus does, doesn't make it less of a parasite, does it? A parasitic virus would last way longer than a baby would without its mother. Doesn't make it less of a parasite, does it? Your points aren't valid.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay so u do agree we should be able to kill kids that are already born? in that case i totally agree with you

[d0x000]

No, I don't. I'm just refuting your own arguments, your contradictions if you may.

[chocolatetwopointo]

then i think u need to go back to school and learn how to read

[d0x000]

I do know how to read, better than you do it appears. You're just not providing solid points.

[chocolatetwopointo]

Okay then, so give me a valid argument why abortions should be banned?

[d0x000]

The same reason why murder should be banned. You're ending a human life.

[chocolatetwopointo]

define human life

[d0x000]

That's basically it, a human that is alive.

[chocolatetwopointo]

why only human?

[d0x000]

Because a "human" life is relevant to only "humans". I can't refer to a goat's life or a chicken's life as a "human" life. Or are you dense enough to not understand that?

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg, why do only human life matter? why not animals? plants? you kill plants and animals all day

[d0x000]

Are you daft? What do plants and animals have to do with abortions?

[chocolatetwopointo]

well ur killing them all day long, but why do u care more for a human clump of cells if u kill animals and plants all day?

[d0x000]

Hhhh. You know what, now you're just saying dumb things. You're not bright kid, work on that.

[chocolatetwopointo]

no im asking you, whats the difference?

[d0x000]

That question is irrelevant. You asked me why abortions should be banned, and I replied "The same reason why murder should be banned. You're ending a human life." The difference between a human life and an animal/plant's life is irrelevant. Stick to the topic of discussion please. Don't be ignorant.

[chocolatetwopointo]

why do u care more for a human life than a plant or animal? what makes them so irrelevant?

[d0x000]

Because plant and animal life are irrelevant in the topic of abortion. Or have you forgotten what we have been discussing in the first place?

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh my fucking god, proving once again u can't read and ur fucking annoying

[d0x000]

Now, tell me where I went wrong:

You: Okay then, so give me a valid argument why abortions should be banned?
Me: The same reason why murder should be banned. You're ending a human life.
You: define human life
Me: That's basically it, a human that is alive.
You: why only human?

Here, this is where you messed up. I'm leaving this here for you so when you're emotionally stable, you can come back to it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how am i emotionally unstable? im simply wondering why u prioratize a human over an animal or plant, we need plants more lmao

[Dargil]

Why do pro-aborts prioritize a ideology over human rights?

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc a womans right matters more than a fetus.

[Dargil]

Not to the unborn sovereign human with it's own unique DNA.

[chocolatetwopointo]

why? the woman also has unique DNA?

[Dargil]

Ohhh. You DONT believe in equity. Ohhhh.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym?

[jjj101010]

Why are pro lifers so often pro deathers when it comes to the death penalty? Seems to be conflicting, surely if all life is valuable then no one should have the right to take it away regardless of their previous actions

[Anonymous]

Stop projecting. Us pro-lifers support exceptions for when the mothers life is in danger, so we do NOT priortize a fetus over a woman's life.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so a woman needs to be risking her life to have full rights over her body?

[Opinion Owner]

No she has rights to her body without her life being in danger. She has the right to not let her body become pregnant. An unborn child shouldn't be facing a death sentence because the mother wasn't careful during sex.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and if she was raped? mistakes happen and condoms break. Would u rather want that kid to grow up in a broken home and maybe even get abused?

[Opinion Owner]

Kid doesn't have to grow up in a broken home, there are a lot of couples who desperately want kids but aren't able to conceive who would gladly adopt the kid and give it all the love in the world.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah true, but the girls parents dont always allow that and forces her to keep it, or the girl feels terrible and takes care of it bc she feels bad

[msc545]

Because that unborn child is at risk of becoming a murder victim. That is why.

[KostasKouvalis]

They're crazy

[seeyounexttuesday]

Why did you make up a strawman argument?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Which word tripped you up?

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym with ur comment?

[seeyounexttuesday]

you made up an argument that doesn’t exist to argue against. On what basis do you think an already alive woman isn’t prioritized?

[chocolatetwopointo]

abortion bans?💀 tf?

[seeyounexttuesday]

How is banning an abortion hurting an already alive woman?

[chocolatetwopointo]

are you actually kidding me rn?

[chocolatetwopointo]

by not getting her the health care she needs? pro-lifers would rather traumatize a woman by destroying her body instead of letting her have an abortion and then letting that kid grow up in a unloving home

[seeyounexttuesday]

Murdering a baby isn’t healthcare.

[chocolatetwopointo]

when the life of the woman is in danger its healthcare

[seeyounexttuesday]

Find me a list of which abortion statutes don’t include the ability to perform one when a woman’s life is in danger. I’ll wait.

[chocolatetwopointo]

etc in congo a woman can't have an abortion even if her life was in danger, laos, suriname, haiti

[seeyounexttuesday]

What does that have to do with US?

[chocolatetwopointo]

now who said anything ab the US?

[seeyounexttuesday]

You’re welcome to go to Haiti and lobby to have the law changed.

[chocolatetwopointo]

answer the question, who said anything about the US? and why tf would i be able to change that? and why does a woman need to be at the risk of DYING for you to give her empathy?

[OddBeMe]

They think it has a soul

[saraupstairs]

They don't.

[chocolatetwopointo]

If they support abortion-bans they do.

[saraupstairs]

Are you talking about medical reasons?

[chocolatetwopointo]

a woman should always be able to get an abortion.

[saraupstairs]

Is there a cut-off age?

[chocolatetwopointo]

no wdym?

[saraupstairs]

What if the baby is two years old?

[chocolatetwopointo]

then its alr born bro?💀 r u like retarded or smth?

[chocolatetwopointo]

then it would be murder, abortion is when you get rid of a FETUS while the woman is still pregnant

[saraupstairs]

Did you know that some Democrats want to kill babies after birth? Or are you retarded?

[chocolatetwopointo]

id love to see ur sources on that lmao, why are u fighting against ur own rights u retarded fuck?💀

[saraupstairs]

Google is your friend.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and did you know that some republicans want to force a 10 year old to carry her baby that was concieved by rape to term? or r u retarded? do u want that?

[chocolatetwopointo]

no show me YOUR sources, YOU made a statement YOU’RE going to prove it.

[saraupstairs]

Sources don't matter to people like you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what?

[saraupstairs]

Exactly

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym exactly? u basically js admitted to not having a source and now u js look stupid and ill assume nothing of what you’ve said is true