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Why do we care so much about fetuses? like seriously?

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like who the fuck cares about abortion on a fetus? why does it matter?
Why do we care so much about fetuses? like seriously?
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  • NaultD
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    "The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."


    Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

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  • CupcakeTheDestroyer
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    It has to do with racial integration in schools during the 1970’s when Roe v. Wade officially passed. In that time, private schools were coming under federal scrutiny for their refusal to integrate their student bodies, and obviously all the racist white people didn’t like that. They protested often, and viciously, if you’ve ever heard of Ruby Bridges, it was a lot like that (she’s still alive to tell the story by the way, it’s not ancient history). But when integration became national law for public schools, white parents who didn’t want their white children interacting with black children pulled them out to put them in white private schools. Over time every private school in the nation had no choice but to integrate their students, which put these racists’ focus back on politics. Many of these people held themselves to be conservative, traditional, and christian and decided that if politicians weren’t going to listen to them then they would vote for politicians who think like them. This started the movement of finding politicians who operated on their moral standard and over the last 50 years has obviously gained enough ground to put people like Trump and Greene in office. And, subsequently, as the idea of life beginning at conception also gained popularity around the same time, abortion rights became a hot-button issue that these lawmakers decided was best to do away with in the name of appeasing their conservative constituents.

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  • FreyaRed
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    It's not about life or children it's display of power. When your religious cult is capable to manipulate politicians and or media until they make laws according to your ideology, you have the power and pseudo moral superiority, even though majority of people doesn't support your ideology.

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  • ProbablyClueless
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    It's part of a much larger conversation about world view, but here are the three basic perspectives:

    Pro-Choice people think that if women don't have taxpayer-funded access to abortion, they are being unfairly restrained from living lives they want to live. Women are having abortions anyway, therefore, abortion should be as easily accessed as possible to ensure those women's safety and their ability to work and financially provide for themselves. They also argue that elimination of unwanted pregnancies eases the burden on the welfare system.

    Pro-Life people either view the fetus as a human life, and therefore see abortion as a homicide. Or they look at it financially, and simply believe that women's choice to have elective abortions are their own, and that the women should therefore have to pay for it the same way they have to pay for other election procedures like plastic surgeries.

    TL;DR: people care so much about abortion because they either think women's ability to get ahead in life depends on everyone else footing the bill for women's sexual behavior; or they think abortion is homicide; or they simply don't think everyone else should have to pay for women's sexual choices.

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  • Miristheiss
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    11 mo
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    We are women so promiscuous and don't want to take any responsibility for their sexual actions?

    Man, the birth control pill, feminism and the sexual revolution of the 70's sure turned women into these degenerate, murderous, self absorbed distortions.

    Doctors are corrupt enough to do this procedure and the law doesn't stop you so you are free to go fuck around all you want and spready your herpes and kill all of the little children that would have been if you weren't such "my pleasure and happiness rules all" monster. There are like 20 kinds of birth control, can't you still keep your promiscuous self from getting knocked up?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      how about men stop raping too? and why can't men ever take responsebility? if they can back out why can't women?

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  • lightbulb27
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    if you have empathy for others you care. if you have none, then it's no different than your feelings for an egg being fried. if you have a baby in your hands, then you maybe could relate.

    the issue really is your brain.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      well a fetus isn't really in my hands?

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  • jshm2
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    Because you were one.

    Sure they regret you getting out, but the remaining are required to grow the population and do the work, and pay the taxes. All so less immigration will be required in the future.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and? nope my parents love me, unlike the parents who want an abortion. yet y'all bitch about having to do all of that? why put a kid into suffering?

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  • ohsheeT
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    Probably the same reason you care about yourself. Because your breathing human being and if your raised right or wrong you could grow up to save this world

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      well i won't, one single person can't save this world retard

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  • Genie23 m
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    Because foetus starts having a heartbeat after 6-7 weeks. So, it's a tiny life you're going to put a stop to.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and? y'all put a stop to more kids by letting them be in wars, poverty etc. maybe care for the ones u have before ones who dont exist.

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    • Genie23 m
      Genie23
      11 mo

      First- Don't give me that attitude. I've been respectful to you, I know you have a habit of arguing/challenging everything. Do so if that's what you want but be respectful while you're disagreeing because I do NOT want to be rude with you.
      Second- Putting a stop to a heartbeat and you're saying "and?" A life is a life whether someone exist or in the womb. How could you care about the ones existing but not about the ones who did nothing harm to you might even have potential to become good individuals.

      Third- I don't have kids. I wouldn't let my kid in wars or suffer or die. I would sacrifice my life for them in a heartbeat. So, don't teach me that. maybe say that to someone does that thing. I care about every life whether they're born or still in the womb.🤷🏻‍♀️
      Four- you just asked me why do we care about foetus but you didn't ask my stand on my opinion on women who choose to abort, do you? Maybe then ask first before you make a comment on me like that.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      yes and i think we should always be more supportive of the pregnant woman instead of the fetus. the fetus won't feel a thing while the mother will probably be traumatized from having a kid she doesn't want.

      well im talking ab the kids already in war and poverty. thats just sad, why do u care more ab a fetus than an already alive woman who will just have to throw her whole life away for this?

      ok so where do u stand on abortions?

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  • LazerBean
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    Because some of us have brains developed enough to know that killing babies is wrong.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      its not babies tho, maybe care more about the actual living babies over fetuses?

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  • Anonymous
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    the radical-right care think the rights of foetuses are more important than fully grown humans simply to annoy the libs - they are so fanatical and obsessed with opposing the libs that they would cut off their own nose to spite their face

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  • Kingofkings1992
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    A fetus becomes a human life. Like seriously? Everyone starts out as a fetus kiddo. Just because you don’t think your life has any value, doesn’t mean you get to impose your shitty outlook and lack of regard for human life on others.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      yes and? so u care more about a fetus that can't feel anything over an already alive kid in poverty?

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      Nice strawman argument lol. Making a fool of yourself as always 😂

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      how am i making a fool out of myself?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      tell me, ill wait. and tell me what ur doing to help those kids before u start forcing women to do stuff they dont want with their bodies.

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      I never said anything about my stance on abortion. Once again, attacking a strawman. I could explain to you how you make a fool of yourself, but you probably wouldn’t understand.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ok so u think women should be able to get abortions? i would, go on.

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      Stay mad

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ab what?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      this is how i know i won this argument, got nothing else to say💀

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      I’m dying 💀☠️

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      millenial

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  • genericname85
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    It's not that we don't care about them. It's just that people are egoistic as fuck and always twist their perception to their advantage

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      men say this until they get their mistress pregnant.

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      what i said already included men. reading comprehension is a good skill to develop.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      gosh u really are that retarded💀

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      hey don't be mad at me for not comprehending what i said correctly. that's on you.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      i did tho. i think u missunderstood my response.

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      you said "men say this until they get their mistress pregnant." i said "people are egoistic as fuck and always twist their perception to their advantage". "people" include men. so i'm not saying what you said is wrong. i'm saying that i already included that in my statement so it's weird for you to just point it out again as if i had not already said that. so what exactly was it that i missunderstood about what you said?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ok then why respond at all? but i bet ur against abortion like most men anyway

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      so i didn't missunderstand you then you just wanted to beat on men. gotcha. that's fine. takes some character to admit but noticing the problem is the first step towards growth.

      anyway the issue i see is that people (men as well as women) seem to shift what they think about abortion publicly around what is most convenient for them personally. so that means when people don't have personal disadvantage from being anti abortion, they are anti abortion. but as soon as they would personally somehow benefit from abortions being ok, they condone abortions.

      so what i'm saying is in general society we aren't having a moral discussion about whether or not aborting a pregnancy (and obviously killing the fetus in the process) is ok or not. what we're really discussing is whether it's convenient or not. and that's an entirely different debate. cause obviously if you fucked up and you got pregnant and the man you fucked is gone and you don't have money, you'd rather get rid of that baby. but if you don't have that problem (and particularly if you'll never have that problem like men will never have that problem), you're usually against abortions cause you personally don't suffer the consequence.

      hope you see what i mean. i think that's largely true.

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      and you see typically it's those men who like to recklessly fuck around without condom that are the ones who are pro abortion and those who have sex responsibly are typically against abortions.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      you’ll make it, hun. ok let them? as long as they dont force it upon others idc. riight. still doesn't really matter.

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      do you consider a baby "others" or not? cause that's quite litterally the point of the entire debate. like either you're ok with things being forced on "other people" or you don't consider people. which is it? or are you actually ok with people being forced?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      what? others as in the people having abortions. shaming them for doing whats best for their situation. r u retarded?

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      you trying to call me retarded makes you sound retarded as fuck. you should stop it and just ask more questions so you fucking learn something finally.

      is it ok to force people to do something yes or no? if no: are babies people? that's the question you have to answer in order to even start a debate about abortions.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      BRO RU DUMB? did u literally not read my response?

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    • genericname85
      genericname85
      11 mo

      well you're 16 and you're talking like it for sure. stubborn idiotic tiktok scrolling brainrotted idiot. not reducing you to your age. there's people smarted than that your age but i guess not everyone can be bright. you may read what i said again and actually think and learn or you may not. i'm done throwing pearls of wisdom before the swine xD cya

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      omfg retard🤦‍♀️ and these are supposted to be fathers? we’re fucked💀

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  • Berethor
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    They consider the fetus as a full fledged baby, so they consider it a murder.

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  • Dargil
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    11 mo
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    Because a "fetus" is a sovereign human being with its own unique DNA.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and?

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    • Dargil
      Dargil
      11 mo

      What were you expecting?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and why do u say fetus like that? i was expecting a solid argument. then why dont u care for all the kids in adoption centres being abused huh?

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  • ivyjuniper21
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    11 mo

    There's a soul in all of us

    We know years conscious, feels pain

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and? do u remember anything from the womb? would u care if u were aborted?

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  • AngryCarl2
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    11 mo
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    If you were aborted as a fetus you wouldn't be here to bitch about random stuff.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and i literally wouldn't care, bc fetuses dont have consciousness.

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  • TwoToTooTutu2
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    Because it is a human. The same reason we care about anyone.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      my god💀

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  • jahaims
    jahaims Follow
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    11 mo
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    When you cope with reality so hard your brain no longer uses logic.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ur a 33 yr old MAN making opinions about womens bodies.

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  • msc545
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    11 mo
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    Because a fetus is a human being and an abortion is premeditated murder.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and? does it serve a purpose? i dont think soo..

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  • noohair
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    11 mo
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    Your brain is being pumped with half of all the bullsh! t. Try both halves

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ur 70. get a life.

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    • noohair
      noohair
      11 mo

      Ok, you think that you are a mature adult?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      nope, never said i was

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    • noohair
      noohair
      11 mo

      Good Luck...

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      riiight

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  • Anonymous
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    11 mo

    I support women's rights, and I don't support religious fanatics.

    Still, there are limits (3. months).

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  • BCRanger10 u
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    Why shouldn't we? These are human beings.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      why should we? and ur point is?

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    • BCRanger10 u
      BCRanger10
      11 mo

      My point is that human life should be cherished, valued, and protected, particularly at its most vulnerable stage.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      well idc

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  • alice55
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    Why would you want to kill a baby 🤡

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      why wouldn't u?🤡

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  • exitseven
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    We all started out as fetuses

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ur point is?

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    • exitseven
      exitseven
      11 mo

      What if somebody pulled you out of the womb at 20 weeks and choked the life out of you?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      i literally would not care?💀 fetuses literally dont even have a consciousness

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    • exitseven
      exitseven
      11 mo

      okay- you are only 16 so I assume you do not know what you are talking about. However, I know somebody who had to deliver her baby prematurely. The baby weighted less than 3 pounds. Hospitals today have the technology to save a lot of these so called fetuses. I saw him in his little incubator. He did not look like much but when I stuck my hand in there and I put my finger into his little hand , that so called fetus squeezed my finger.
      That baby will be celebrating his 3rd birthday in a couple of months.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ok so bc im 16 im clueless? thats a smart way of thinking.
      ok and? he would not care or know he died? as i said, he doesn't have consciousness.

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      @chocolatetwopointtwo yes, 16 year olds are clueless. that’s exactly right. You are a baby in the woods

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      then ur clearly retarded

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      Kid, I told you before, I’ll just reiterate one more time if for whatever reason it didn’t get through to your brain, nothing you say has any effect on me.

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    • exitseven
      exitseven
      11 mo

      @chocolatetwopointtwo Okay- i guess that was a cheap shot. I was not being fair to you. However how do you know that a fetus does not have consciousness? At what point does it become a person?
      If the fetus has the nervous system to move independently is it possible it has consciousness?
      It is a very complex issue which really is above my pay grade but it needs to be studied by the scientific community. Not the pope and not the president.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ok then leave?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      @exitseven a kid gets consciousness at around 5-6 years old, thats why u barely remember anything before that time. do u remember anything from the womb?
      all it takes is a google search bro.. i thought this was common sense.. didn't u learn this in school?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      wait mb 5-6 months*

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    • exitseven
      exitseven
      11 mo

      @chocolatetwopointtwo I had a twin brother and I can remember kicking him while we were in he womb. Okay- I am only kidding about that but do you really know what consciousness is? Is it being aware of your existence? If that is the case, babies are aware when they are a lot younger than 5 years old.
      Also, do they really teach you in school that babies do not have consciousness until they are 5? The public schools are in bigger trouble than I thought.
      Also, do your parents know you are on this site? 😊😊😊😊
      X-7

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      did u not see my other response? ”wait mb 5-6 months” maybe read before u jump to conclusions❤️

      Reply
  • missindiana93
    missindiana93 Follow
    Explorer Age: 32
    11 mo

    Do some research little girl.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      i have, ur point is?

      Reply
  • CB-Raido-Time
    CB-Raido-Time Follow
    Xper 5 Age: 62
    11 mo

    Because the are children created by God.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      brainwashed

      Reply
    • CB-Raido-Time
      CB-Raido-Time
      11 mo

      Oh no it's not me that's been brainwashed. You will need a mirror for that.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      first time making a comeback?

      Reply
    • CB-Raido-Time
      CB-Raido-Time
      11 mo

      My second time it's usually not required.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      clearly

      Reply
  • grega239
    grega239 Follow
    Guru Age: 33
    11 mo
    2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

    Because it has the right to live.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      so does all the kids dying of poverty, kids in wars, why dont u care near as much for them?

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Those are tragic yes. But they qouldnt be dying from poverty if their parents were responsible enough not to bring them into the world if they can't provide for them.

      As for war. The fuck you want me to do about it?

      I wouldn't care about abortion if the pro choice crowd didn't make such insane arguments for it.
      Hell, we wouldn't even have any debates about abortions if women werent so irresponsible to allow themselves to get pregnant in the 1st place.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and when ur against abortion those kids will just get more and more. i want u to help. charity. retard.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      do you know how many women end up pregnant after rape?

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    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Keep your legs closed and we won't have to worry about those kids.

      I can agree to abortion if its a reault of rape.
      I do not agree with abortion if qomen can't stop themselves from being irresponsible sluts.
      My ex and i never used protection. If we managed to prevent pregnancy from happening, you have no excuse from doing so aswell

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      never had sex dont plan on it.

      ah yes a woman needs to be violated to have full rights over her own body.
      okay then if we ban abortions we should ban father leaving? dont u think?
      nah dude thats js luck

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    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      No. A woman needs to be responsible with her choices to avoid such extremes.
      And like i said, in case of rape , ok.
      But a drunken hook up? Come on now.

      Yes. Men should be forced to raise their offspring. Back in the day, deadbeat men were publicly shamed for it.

      Maybe thats what we need. Force people to deal with the consequences of their stupid decisions.

      Oh dont worry, men dont have full rights of their own body either

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      a woman should always have full rights to her body. a woman shouldn't have to be violated to have rights to her own body.

      they should still be. and ur saying this rn until it actually comes to u. we both know you’d leave in a heartbeat and never look back.

      yeah for men. women do it all the time. they become single mothers when the father leaves.

      LMAO okay what rights dont u have?💀

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    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Abortion shouldn't be a right. It should be a medical emergency like amputation.
      Being irresponsible is not a medical emergency

      Why would i leave my own child?

      Well in many countries its legal to circumcise a newborn boy. Why can't the baby have the right to bodily autonomy?

      And in basically all countries the government can force mento go to war. If they refuse they get imprisoned and branded as a coward.
      That essentially makes men government property

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      i should have full rights to my own body. no matter the situation.

      bc ur a man who runs from accountability.

      yeah usually bc it’ll benefit them in the future. circumcising a girl is just abuse and torture.

      and how many times have u gone to war? now compare that to the women who werent allowed to get an abortion. and nowadays women can also be forced to go to war.

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      You want full rights but won't take full reaponsability. ok

      But i want to have kids. Why would i abandon them if i want to be a father?

      Whats the benefit? And why is it ok to violate them?

      Considering how things are going, it looks like i might have to go to war.

      Stop shifting the topic.

      Women can be forces to war in theory only.
      Any country that sends its women to war is either desperate or stupid

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      then the man should too.

      all guys say that until they actually become a father.

      google’s free hun.

      riight, so why not js kys now so u won't have to? and by the way a lot of women will have to too.

      ah and here he goes with the sexism. there's loads of female military. stop being sexist.

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      We do or we're forced to.

      Some do. Most dont.

      It is. Can you use it to get my point?

      Because im not a coward and have no problem going to war to protect my home.

      What was sexist about my statement?
      Desperation-because all the able bodied men are dead or in extremely low numbers.

      Stupidity-because you dont send people that have the ability to replace all the dead men to die.

      Neither of these are sexist.

      Loads? 10% at best. And even fewer are as active combat infantry

      you're completely missing all points i made

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      yet there's millions who dont pay child support or act as a father.

      riight.

      and ur point is?

      good for u, same here.

      nope, women are in the military too.

      u wanna know why? bc women are raped, assulted and shamed for being in the military. but the ones who ignore all that, stay. im not tho.

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Good news. I hear in britain, women can get an abortion up until the point of birth.

      can't wait for women to get the right to abort them after birth aswell.

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ok good 4 them👍

      thats just murder, and i think we both know whos better at that one…

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Thougth youd be happier

      Technically speaking all abortion is murder.
      Because according to the law, if a pregnant woman is killed and the baby dies aswell, its classified as double homicide.

      Yes yes men are better at murder. Sick burn

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      well its not in my country so it doesn't really concern me?

      yeah i think that law is bs. a fetus is in utero while a baby is outside of utero. not really that hard to understand if u ask me🤷‍♀️

      then women aren't really the problem are they?

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    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Maybe not your country but i assumed youd be glad for your felkow women.

      The abortion debate is about the morality of it , not its legality.

      What does men being the majority of murderers have to do with abortion?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      okay👍

      ok too bad.

      u said u can't wait for women getting the right to abort them after birth when men do that more than women.

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      No they dont. Women commit more infantacide than men

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and many of those are single moms. do u think they’d still kill it if the father was there?

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    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      so its the fathers fault by proxy?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      part of it yes.

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    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      So you're saying women can't be held to account for their own actions and choices?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      ”PART OF IT” meaning both have responsebility.

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      No its not. You can't blame a man for what a woman does

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      its called a underlying cause.

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Ok and?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      if she wasn't already planning to kill the kid, the father leaving was an underlying cause.

      Reply
    • grega239
      grega239
      11 mo

      Maybe it was maybe it wasn't.
      Still not his fault if a woman is insane enough to do it

      Reply
  • wkhan_87
    wkhan_87 Follow
    Yoda Age: 39
    11 mo

    What happened to your previous account?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      banned

      Reply
  • beefcakebradybatson
    beefcakebradybatson Follow
    Guru Age: 72
    11 mo
    5.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

    Too many religiious nut busybodies !!!

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    (25-29)
    11 mo

    Why should anyone care about you?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      never asked u to🤷‍♀️

      Reply
  • seeyounexttuesday
    seeyounexttuesday Follow
    Yoda Age: 62
    11 mo

    Are you psychotic?

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      no, why?

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      Feminist?

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      yes, sexist?

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      Ah, that explains it. Feminism rots your soul.

      Reply
    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      She doesn’t know what a feminist is

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      i do know what feminism is, y'all r js too brainwashed to think its something bad.

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      We know it rots your soul. No wonder you’re so miserable.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      it doesn't. i think you’ve missunderstood what feminism is. simple google search is all it takes. my life isn't miserable I don't know what ur on about🤷‍♀️

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      I know exactly what it is. Cancer.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      simple google search its all it takes.

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      Yup. Came back that feminism is cancer.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and ur source is?

      Reply
    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      @chocolatetwopointtwo you are the most miserable person on gag. Who’s kidding whom?

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      how?

      Reply
    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      @seeyounexttuesday I think this person is on a fake account too. She had turned 17 on her old account, now she’s back to 16. LOL 😆

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      yeah i typed in the wrong birthday, ur not that bright are u?

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      I don’t doubt it. No one real would write a question as stupid as this one.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      and here the MAN goes talking about what women should do with their bodies.

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      Yawn. A baby isn’t your body.

      Reply
    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      When you learn to say “you’re” instead of saying “ur” , then you can maybe be taken a little seriously when saying that others aren’t that bright. @chocolatetwopointtwo

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      @seeyounexttuesday, honey. do u know how a baby is made? the fetus is in the womans body until its born, its in HER body…

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      @Kingsofkings1992 maybe learn what shortings are u old male.

      Reply
    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      @chocolatetwopointtwo oh I know what they are, you just look stupid and immature. if you want to fix that, you might want to do as I suggest

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      @chocolatetwopointtwo don’t call either of us “honey.” You sound stupid as hell. The baby is a separate entity, it just happens to grow inside the womb. Not part of your body

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      i dont really care what u think of me, so no❤️

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      lmao stay mad. and no its not. the fetus is inside the woman. do i really need to explain pregnancy for u? the woman is deeply effected of that fetus. did u seriously just say my womb isn't part of my body? r u fucking retarded?

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    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      no retard, I said the baby isn’t part of your body @chocolatetwopointtwo. that’s adorable that you think you need to explain something to me ha!

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    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      it literally is tho? r u like serious right now? the fetus is in MY body, MY womb feeding off MY energy.

      Reply
    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      Lmao js stay mad

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      oh my god🤦‍♀️ and these are the men supposted to be fathers? man we’re fucked.

      Reply
    • Kingofkings1992
      Kingofkings1992
      11 mo

      Not as fucked as your worthless generation when they become adults @chocolatetwopointtwo lmao js stay mad 🤣

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      in what world are we the fucked generation? id LOVE an explanation, but i remembered ur too stupid to ever come up with one. as always.

      Reply
    • seeyounexttuesday
      seeyounexttuesday
      11 mo

      But it’s not her body. Just so we are clear.

      Reply
    • Chocolatetwopointtwo
      Chocolatetwopointtwo
      11 mo

      r u dumb?

      Reply
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