Should Education be optional?

[OddBeMe]

How many smart kids are held back by the dummies? Standardized tests are made to the lowest common denominator.

Let the non educated be today’s slaves.

Yes!

No bruh! Wtf? Take your meds!

Other

[NaultD]

We need better education that isn't funded by local property tax. Poor neighborhoods with poor housing dollor value then get poor education and rise in criminal activity to stay alive. GO Fucking figure. So the over inflated property tax from few rich folks go to the lowest property area as property tax.

The locally over inflated rich areas is taken away from normal middle household values in the area into standard tax burden in that area and pays for less off parts of our nation and together we are better educated nation.

[jshm2]

It is.

There is little education in the world today. Mostly of it is just schooling, and day care.

It's why there is a steady decline in kids doing well, and adults doing any better.

What most people assume is "education" is just pointless cramming of lessons by underpaid teachers and under resources schools. These poor kids are learning little valuable life skills. Just information which they could pick up easier and quicker with Youtube and a Udemy video instead!

[OddBeMe]

Yes agreed. And honestly historical dates and geography are technically pointless. And possibly algebra, unless you choose to learn more math. But teaching critical thinking and a love of learning is a moral necessity, in my opinion. Info, like on Udemy, will always be available.

We aren’t giving kids a reason, or will to learn it.

[kylee2437]

Absolutely not. Education should be mandatory. Your child needs to be put on a schedule otherwise they are going to grow up with no ability to adapt to adulthood. Do I think school education right now is excessive? Yes, but no we should not do away with school completely.

[OddBeMe]

Very true. Children thrive on routine.

[kylee2437]

@OddBeMe my brother dropped out at 16 and he can’t find rhythm to actually get a real life adult routine. I’m not saying all situations end up like this, but I feel like this would become more common if kids were allowed to decide.

[kylee2437]

If anything, I think the whole system of college needs to be changed. It should be ran like trade schools.

[OddBeMe]

No I actually agree. Kids need that disciplined routine or they get screwed up.

[msc545]

like trade schools in what way?

[kylee2437]

@mcs545 colleges need to be more hands on and I think the vast majority of learning should be hands on rather than having to submit endless assignments and taking 100 question tests every month in multiple classes. People come out of college barely knowing a thing about their field because the learning is very wordy and not very hands on

[msc545]

What do you mean by hands-on? More labs or what?

[kylee2437]

@msc545 more labs and more activities that can teach you what you are actually doing in your field. I’m currently in college and everything they teach us is outdated information we need to remember just for the sake of passing a test at the end of each month per semester. So not only are you preparing for this, but all your tests usually end up on the same week because colleges have turned teachings into recycled learning.

[msc545]

I see. What would a lab for advanced statistics be like? How about literature?

[kylee2437]

@msc545 prereqs can be left the same but advanced math really isn’t needed

[Taffy1234]

Tell that to Seattle. lol
They are closing schools and firing teachers because they are pedophiles. The Internet was invented, and brick and mortar is the past. There is absolutely no reason for children to go to these pedo schools. Would you like me to teach you computer programming in Python?

[msc545]

Depending on your career aspirations, advanced math is absolutely needed.

[kylee2437]

@taffy1234 that has nothing to do with children needing to establish a routine

[kylee2437]

@msc545 not really. Technology is evolving and most math is now done via apps. That’s how I passed my math class pre-reqs

[msc545]

I know that, but there is a matter of deciding what math is needed. To do that you need to understand the math itself which means you have to learn it.

[kylee2437]

@msc545 I can’t even count how many times my professors have told me that the math being currently taught is not needed because in the field they use technology. What they teach doesn’t even add up to what happens in the field

[msc545]

what math and what field?

[kylee2437]

@msc545 dietetics and formulas for a bunch of different scenarios. It’s all done on computer. It’s to the point where your nurses and doctors even look up procedures on YouTube as a refresher before so. The courses that are taken in school are only the way they are because they drive money into colleges

[msc545]

I am not going to keep arguing with you. Have you even been to college?

[kylee2437]

@msc545 this is how I can tell you don’t comprehend anything, you just spew arguments. I have said about two times that I am a current college student LOL.

[Jazzy54]

K-12? No.


College, trade, or vocational? Yes. At that point, they’re an adult and can make their own decisions.

[OddBeMe]

It’s that already. And the reason our economy sucks.

[KingOfMe1]

You sure they can make their own decisions? Because most people make poor decisions and end up with ruined lives. Whether it is school or another area in life. Just straight dumb decisions.

[Jazzy54]

Indeed. Either way, they’re legally adults.

[OddBeMe]

@KingOfMe1 you’re right of course. I would actually make higher ed mandatory. Even if it’s a year in a tech school. Boom just made a salaried plumber.

[msc545]

No. You have Dunning Kruger syndrome you not only do not know things, you also don't know what you don't know which frequently leads to arrogance and the belief that you actually know everything.

Education is the solution to this problem and is the only solution if one is possible since without mandatory eucation you will not avail yourself of any new learning since you already believe you know everything. This is going to result in a lot of ignorant adults if children are not educated from an early age.

[OddBeMe]

Me arrogant! Nah….

[Billlewis]

I don't necessarily think that education is the problem, in and of itself so much as the peripheral issues that young children are now being indoctrinated with by overzealous faculty members and administrators.

[OddBeMe]

How so? They’re teaching witchcraft?

[Juxtapose]

Come on dude, no kid would want to go to school when they can just play video games or go out and play soccer or something with their friends.

[OddBeMe]

Oh you thought the kids would be making the decision? Lol

[Juxtapose]

So you're gonna let one generation make a mistake and then doom all the others?

[OddBeMe]

That’s usually what happens. #boomers.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah, your idea is horrible.

[OddBeMe]

I actually agree. But in discussing this others have brought up the moral necessity of teaching critical thinking instead of shit like geography.

[Anonymous]

I know millionaires who can't even read. Education is overrated.

[Taffy1234]

It already is optional.