Polls and referenda in red states Ohio last night, Kansas, Kentucky) are clearly showing that most Americans want a woman's right to choose to remain. When is the GOP going to wake up?
When it comes to abortion I think it should be left up to the states to decide. The issue with Roe vs Wade is that it was federal mandate. But there is a reason why our founders set up our country to give states their own power to set up local laws. California shouldn’t be telling Texas what to do or vice versa. The idea is you can leave state (or even travel somewhere else) if you don’t like the local laws.
Anyway my viewpoints on abortion are very complex. But as a conservative I’m disturbed by how many republicans are blindly getting behind Trump right now. While I share their resentments about Biden I also care about WINNING. Trump might blow out the primaries but can he really win a general election? Yes (most) of the indictments against him are utter disgusting and heinous bullshit (except the Florida mishandling of classified info really Trumps fault).
But this is giving the mass media exactly what they wanted. A fixation on Trump to get the attention off the real problem of the senile, corrupt and walking corpse of a president called Joe Biden. He’s destroying are f*cking economy! That hurts everybody. But the only person who take the negative attention off him is Trump and the Democratic elitists know it. They have figured out how to manipulate him for a long term sinister plans.
Republicans if you don’t get behind a candidate that can actually win (DeSantis) in the primaries then as much as I hate to say it this your fault. Open your eyes what’s going on. Liberal elitists actually WANT Trump to be the frontrunner.
@slatyb he’s “nasty” because he uses common sense and doesn’t bow to all the commie woke vs. There is a reason why Florida’s population is booming while the population in NY and CA is shrinking. He also thinks twice before he blurts out whatever is on his mind. He also could drink a whole bottle of NyQuil and look more awake then Biden.
But I have to hand it to the conniving and plotting leftist elitists out there. You can hate sociopaths but never underestimate them. They cleverly got Trump indicted because they knew core republicans would back him in the primaries and it’s the only way to get the negative attention off that corrupt senile incompetent piece of shit morons like you voted in. This is a God send for the mass media. It’s virtually impossible for them to get the negative attention off Biden otherwise.
But again I can’t make up excuses for all the morons on the right who don’t realize they are getting played. The only candidate that walking corpse in chief can beat a general election is Trump. Leftist elitists figure out how to use Trump again himself. And like a bunch of idiots the GOP base is going to give the left what they had planned all along.
@PragmaticProfit it’s amazing how the mass media was quick to smear him with tons of bullshit lies as quickly as they could.
Also it’s more funny how democrats worry about “free speech” when they are the ones who love social media censorship and cancel culture.
@slatyb about DeSantis being a “boor”. He’s not trump. He thinks before he speaks. But I have to admit he is a bit “boring” (not “boor”) by how he speaks in monotone. He doesn’t have Trump’s bombastic personality and given he’s a politician that’s how it should. We don’t elect people to be entertained.
But that actually terrifies democrats even more in some ways. Trump is constantly stepping on rakes and making himself an easy target for ridicule with his unfiltered speech. Easy for simpletons to fixate on that.
Truth is the left needs Trump more then right does. It’s no coincidence all these indictments came up at the most convenient time for them.
@slatyb and meanwhile our sitting president refused to acknowledge his 7th grandchild because she was illegitimate. He finally owned up to.
Spare me your moral spats about who is cruel vs who isn’t when it comes to politics. DeSantis shipped illegal immigrants (which they consented to) to Martha’s Vineyard to point out the gross and disgusting hypocrisy of leftist elitists. It’s always the rich white educated liberals who want to virtue signal while they live behind gated communities and don’t have to deal with harsh reality of their asinine policies.
Biden campaigned as a so called “caring and kindly” family man. Like we need his “empathy” when in reality he is a liar and corrupt.
That doesn’t mean I believe Trump is some Boy Scout. But at least you know what you are getting. He’s got rich by being embracing free markets and capitalism. Hypocrites like Joe Biden got rich off of taxpayer money and very likely corrupt business dealings through his son. Bernie Sanders became a f*cking millionaire by selling a book about f*cking socialism.
Again that doesn’t mean I think all Republican candidates are nice and caring “emphatic” guys. But they don’t put on this bullshit front to the same extent democrat politicians do.
That’s what I’m saying man. If the republican party pulled their religious heads out their asses we’d have a red wave if they just allow women’s right to choose.
I agree with almost every single talking point that conservative people like Ben Shapiro make but once you talk about forcing women to conceive a baby due to rape or incest. Sorry man, you’re fucken insane for forcing a woman to go through that.
All cause your religious little booklet tells you it’s a sin. Fuck off.
Chill out there weekend warrior
Excuse me?
Chill out there weekend warrior.
You’re fucken retarded
The Bible is the most durable literature carried on throughout human history. Even if you're an athiest, it's sheer ignorance to dismiss it as a arbitrary little booklet.
So I have to insult you, for you to not be a robot? Interesting.
I grew up in a religious family. I have a brain, some of the logic behind relgion makes no sense.
Case in point, would you agree having sex with a sibling or forcing yourself sexually onto another person is a sin? It is right? So in what world does it make sense for a woman to have that sin done to her, have to give birth to the child due to that?
Which brings up another point. You’d probably say “all children are god’s children” ok, so is gonna going to pay child support for the supplies and food needed to raise a child born from that? Cause a rapist sure won’t?
Tell me how your study is somehow illiterate?
How many abortions occur because of the rare situation you mentioned compared to the primary reasons for abortion? Why are we focusing on such a minute fraction of cases concerning rape instead of addressing the core issue?
That’s the thing. You might not see it because all you see is that I am pro choice.
But I’m pro choice where it makes sense.
For example if a woman has unprotected (premarital) sex. And ends up pregnant. Yeah, it’s not the babies fault. She made her choices. She knew she was having unprotected sex, so she should be an adult (hopefully) and give birth to the kid.
The same way the government likes to put laws on guns and make limitations, I think abortion should be available but only in situations where it makes sense.
You don’t have to be so cookie cutter. Just because I’m pro choice doesn’t mean I agree with those radical feminists that want abortion allowed to the point of birth either, that’s absolutely insane. You’re literally killing a baby at that point. It has a heartbeat and is moving around.
Those are the same people that scream when a mass shooting happens acting as if they think every life is sacred. Fuck them to the moon
Well it seems like we're somewhat in agreement then. The main issue is foolish women not wanting to bare the responsibility of having a child. That's the vast majority of why abortions are happening in our country. Overturning Roe V Wade gives way for regulation on this matter. If you were irresponsible and had a child out of wedlock with the amount of contraceptions we have available, then you should have the damn child, not terminate it. That's heinous and immoral irrespective of religious ideology.
Yeah. And that’s be brought upon because of the feminist movement.
It brought out the worst in so many women. Making them narcissistic, selfish, think they can do whatever they want. Etc.
I'm an atheist. I'm against abortion because a bitter ex killed my unborn child to get revenge.
That’s fucked up man. Sorry that happened to you
No you aren't. If you were you'd retract all the stupid shit you said above. Don't act like you care when you know damn well we're enemies.
Did you not read what I said? I was explaining to the guy above that I am pro choice to a certain extent.
In your case it’s wrong because the girl did it out of spite. When you fit the very small group of men that impregnate a woman and ACTUALLY want to be a father and be there to provide and support
The thing is, there was a huge campaign in Ohio against the issue and not much of a campaign for it. I don't think most voters even really knew what it was about. I don't think it was a vote pertaining directly to abortion. With that said, I do think the issue of abortion did hurt republicans in the midterms.
The GOP is on the wrong side of the issue. Public opinion is against them but it is up to the voters to make them pay for it at the ballot box. Only then will they shift their position and tell the radical wing of the party to sit down.
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they'll realize it when they start losing elections
like the house of representatives now... majority gop rnc.
True.
@strateguy632 A majority of 5 seats. The last time the majority was that small was in the 1930's.
@strateguy632 WHEN they lose elections. since they haven't they don't have a problem with their abortion agenda. READ instead of just trying to play the the GOP super hero. the question isn't about hose majorities dude. the question is when will the GOP realize they are headed the wrong direction. they will realize that and change their tune (as all politicos do regardless of their party) when their actions cost them votes.
There's nothing wrong with preserving a person's right to life. No State shall make or enforce any law which deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Everyone has a right to life and even children should have equal protection under the law... We get it, you hate children, you hate America, you hate the idea that people can be free, but there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.
@MzAsh Yeah I know, there are always devil worshiping witches like you that will continue murdering their own children in sacrifice to Moloch for your satanic rituals to make pacts with the devil. Evil is as old as time. I know it doesn't go away. That doesn't mean the rest of society will accommodate your twisted views that violate human rights and capitulate to your grim view of how the world should be run. So you run back to the shadows were you belong.
"devil worshiping witches" 
@MzAsh Oh you were saying you could break the law? Sure, criminals can break laws. They can also be held accountable in a court of law for their criminal actions when they are caught. It's no different than any other law. That's the point, you can't do anything about the right of the people to decide how they govern themselves. Your tyrannic aspirations to impose your views on the world have been foiled and you're back to being a common criminal like you've always been. Society told you to go fuck yourself.
@rigmarole bro I was not laughing at you I was laughing at the comments you made at the whiny little bitch who decided to invade your opinion.
good work! but damn did you really thought I was gonna side with a demonic feminists cunt who appears to have a fetish or should I say paraphilia for murdering newborn children?
oh well that if that's your interpretation of that image then I obviously can't change your views. till then no, in case you dont know that is Chris Evans laughing hard at a comment he heard on interview.
which of course I posted it because I laugh that same way when I realized you smacked this feminist bitch across the face with no hands
its cool but if anything continue putting this feminists witch in her place. its quite entertaining, its too bad I can't see her comments cause she blocked me a while back because speaking of butt hurting I once said something to her that really got her buttheart. but dont be surprise if she does the same to you later on
@MzAsh Obviously not. Once it is fertilized it has human DNA making it a person. All persons have a right to life. No one can legally deprived any person of life without due process of law. Everyone has equal protection under the law, even non-citizens. You aren't the decision maker, the government of law is. That's how republic operate. Everyone gets their fair day in court. Everyone's right to life is laid out in the Constitution. It's not up for debate. Where you have control over your own body is by either staying abstinent, utilizing birth control to prevent ovulation/fertilization, or prevention of pregnancy via tubal ligation. You have all the opportunity in the world to not get pregnant. Once you do though, you've created a new person. That person has rights just like you, just like an illegal alien, just like any other human. You can't just off them for fun.
The autonomy of women over their own bodies and pregnancy is an effort I will continue to fight for. a woman's ability to make personal choices regarding her pregnancy is nonnegotiable. No one is required to like it or agree with it. They can feel free to disagree, but they’re not going control or dictate what a woman does or doesn’t do with her pregnancy.
@MzAsh You have autonomy over your own body, just not over children's body. They are separate people and have their rights solidly guaranteed in the constitution. There is nothing you can do about it... The constitution guarantees equal protection for all people. You make the choice to have unprotected sex. If you get pregnant, then you made that choice. That's on you. You could have just as easily made the choice to not have sex, to have sex using birth control, to have a tubal ligation so as to prevent unwanted pregnancies, etc. You make the choice to not do all of those things so that you can get pregnant. Once you get pregnant, there is another person in the room that has human rights that are equal to yours. If you think your life is more valuable than other people, then again you are in the wrong country and should move to one that has a different constitution. The constitution guarantees every's right to life first before any other statutory law comes into effect. When you take someone's life, then you can be tried for murder and due process of law could see your forfeit for your crimes.
If I were pregnant and decided to have an abortion, that’s what I would do, and I’d be damned if I let anyone stop me. It’s not too difficult to have it done at home, with no one being the wiser. There’s zero chance I’m letting the government tell me what back and cannot do with my pregnancy.
Not only that, but they want to keep their democracy. 70% voted no in Ohio, which must include many of the 40%+ that would vote against including a right to abortion access in the constitution.
That sign in the picture is total propaganda, you don't protect your state's constitution by changing it, especially not by making direct democracy even more onerous! The 50% (+1) current limit limits the power of the legislature, which is 70% Republican despite their getting less than 60% of the vote.
News flash: The US Constitution and other constitutions have been changed throughout history. They are called "Amendments." Without them, many would not be enjoying the rights that they have now. 13th Amendment - Abolition of Slavery...19th Amendment - Women's Right to Vote, etc.
Of course you're right that constitutional amendments are key to a living constitution. A constitutional amendment to make constitutional amendments more difficult, if not practically impossible, to pass is not favouring that constitution, unless the ability is being regularly abused.
I would oppose the killing of the innocent even if I was the only man on earth to do so.
There is no life on this earth more innocent than a baby.
Nor any betrayal more cold hearted and savage than a baby being killed by their own mother.
Its better to lose and avoid murdering innocent people than to win and be collision with such evil.
Those claiming its in the Constitution is particularly insulting lie, for there is no such text nor would there ever have been anything so savage in any noble constitution. But of course that is what evil does, telling the biggest lies.
They are not headed in the wrong direction. Abortion is murder. It must be stopped despite the blood thirsty masses who want it to escape from poor decision making and seem to think a mother murdering her child in the womb is a woman’s right.
So some are pissed and will vote Democrat as a result. I used to say “not good” but have changed my mind. This is actually good. No one can wreck a country like the Democrats. Let them run it all into the ground, let the baby killers vote Democrat just like the people who voted for Biden because or mean tweets. When it hits rock bottom and people are fed up enough things will definitely change. We can start all over with perhaps a better system of government. As I see it, things are unfixable at this time.
They actually don't care because they are manipulating votes to support their agenda. The super majority supreme court has already struck down several laws that were in place to protect minority voters from discrimination. Even though the majority of voters are okay with abortion under certain circumstances, especially in the case of rape or incest, the supreme court will continue to make it harder for minorities and people in favor of abortion to vote.
It does not matter if the majority are against something if the supreme court makes it impossible for them to vote.
Are they though?
What scares the left is that there are a lot more people against abortion than they will publicly acknowledge. For instance all those Mexicans they let in, Catholics all throughout the country, Muslims, African Americans and the White Christians
The results speak for themselves. If what you say is true, then all of these referenda should be failing. They're not. By the way, the Supreme Court in Mexico has ruled that abortion is legal (little unknown fact).
Supreme Court in Mexico is not the Mexican people. Mexico is not known for its democracy, well known fact.
Polls and referendums are often not real or faked to promote a political agenda.
So, all polls and referenda are fake? Oh, are only the ones you accept are true? Only the election results you accept are true? Hmmm? That sounds familiar. You do know that in a democracy we don't get our way all of the time. If we did get our way all of the time, we are no longer living in a democracy. You seem to be in favor of an authoritarian form of government... run by religious fanatics perhaps?
A lot of polls and surveys are. Often they are designed very deliberately to give a predetermined result for those who are funding them. It's PR and media manipulation. The basics of advertising and PR from the 50s to the present is to tell people what they think and what they believe but there's so much of it that we are all slowly becoming immune to it. I can't think of any time America has had a referendum.
"You do know that in a democracy we don't get our way all of the time. If we did get our way all of the time, we are no longer living in a democracy. You seem to be in favor of an authoritarian form of government... run by religious fanatics perhaps?"
On one hand you are saying that democracy doesn't matter while on the other you accuse me of being in favour of an authoritarian government.
I would be in favour of democracy, the will of the people. A referendum on whether or not the federal government should legalise or ban abortion based on voter percentage and another referendum in states on whether to legalise or ban it
"I would be in favor of democracy"? Are you saying you are not? The vote is in already in several states, so you just decide it must not be real because you disagree.
I am. You are saying you aren't.
People choose to die on a hill. What else feels good about the GOP? GOP are morally bankrupt on every other issue and on abortion that's kinda of a grey area is now conclusively decided towards pro choice.
Homelessness. We need to build 100x more homes that will dismantle current housing prices that retire people bet on.
Healthcare. Global pandemic effects everyone. Anyone left behind with coverage hurts everyone.
I think ultimately it will lead to a fracture in the party and the creation of a third one.
I agree!
have you heard "democrats for life" submitted a recommendation to Supreme Court to repeal roe vs wade.
I would never murder my own baby personally. If you've ever seen a documentary of an abortion you will know they vaccum out body parts after a couple months.. its disturbing.
So, are you saying that most American women are ignorant and have no idea what's going on? Your answer is simplistic and doesn't even begin to address the complexity of this issue... rape, substance abuse, mental illness, etc. I find it disturbing that anyone thinks it's ok for the government to intrude in such a personal decision and force someone to do something that they're not prepared for.
Yes thats what I'm saying. Look into it and you will see.
And rape and assualts are less than 1% of abortions
1% is way too much. There were 930 160 abortions in 2020. 1% is 9301. You really think it's ok to force almost 1,000 women into childbirth. That's barbaric You act like this is a twisted numbers game. I don't need to look into anything. The people have spoken. I love it when democracy wins. I'm glad we don't live in a theocracy like living with the Taliban under sharia law. It's sad that you think that most of your fellow Americans are ignorant. Perhaps, you should consider moving to a country that thrives on suppressing women's rights and voices. There are plenty to choose from.
I would love to watch you convince 1,000 women who have been raped to go through with the pregnancy. I would pay money to see that.
Sure easy.
Murdering their babies won't help them🤷🏼♀️
They would say the same of you, quite reasonably.
A cell is not a baby. Nor is something the size of a seed, any more than an acorn or a sapling is a tree.
In my opinion there are two reasonable discussions to be had on the subject:
1. About when a fetus should have rights comparable to the mother's.
2. About end of life care. In case of fatal fetal abnormalities, the mother is both next of kin and life support mechanism. We don't keep grown people on life support indefinitely and those machines don't have rights and can't experience harm.
Banning abortions without considering circumstances is simply bad law.
It's the technical term for a miscarriage: "spontaneous abortion". You can look it up.
OK, you don't like the comparison, but the point is that nobody cares that they've lost a baby when they didn't even know they were pregnant ("I was a couple of weeks late"). The idea that a fertilised egg or even an early fetus is a person is an extreme position to take.
"... rates among all fertilisation is around 30% to 50%. In those under the age of 35 the risk is about 10% while in those over the age of 40 the risk is about 45%. Risk begins to increase around the age of 30."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage
The issue is far more complex than either side wants to admit:
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/26/1171863775/poll-americans-want-abortion-restrictions-but-not-as-far-as-red-states-are-going
The only thing that might make them realize their mistake is if they lost elections by huge margins in every state but that will never happen as the country is decided almost 50/50 between the parties and their is no compromise in either party. They are each too far left or right for people to be swing votes in between.
so ignorant, i remind you in 2016 when republicans had BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE they could but did not ban abortion but compromised allowing a bit while banning most it ALREADY passed house just to prove the Republicans were falsely accused but the lie continues.
When will the Democrats learn to compromise?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/cXRTnD7JEWQladies "in white " ignoring PAIN, cold hearted dnc a stain on U. S. A.
@strateguy632
Exactly. Cold-hearted bitches.
GOP have self-awareness? Lol, good joke.
RIP America, lol
speaking of R. I. P. biden ruined government credit rating... a second time, and second company after "flawless protected minority" obama ruined credit rating.
They won´t because if they change they have to stop claiming they are Christian and can stop saying they are conservative. Being pro abortion is neither.
Plenty of Christians are pro-choice. Actually, more are pro-choice than not. The election results are stacking up to continue to prove this. The Ohio GOP desperately tried to make it harder to listen to the will of the people... and failed... fortunately.
I've been saying that for 30 years. Their anti-abortion stance gains them few votes. But it loses them large numbers of votes. So politically it's a net loss.
Give it up. We just don't support killing babies. We've never supported killing babies in the name of sexual freedom. How about people take responsibility BEFORE having sex and getting pregnant.
It has been left up to the individual states. If people feel strongly one way or another they can vote for candidates that will support their view.
Bill Burr is on point lol
I dont think so, I'm with them 100%. I'm sick and tired of young bimbos getting pregnant from left to right recklessly just because they feel like they can abort their child whenever the fuck they want with my hard earn money
Damn right! Well said!
What direction is that? Reserving abortion regulation to the states according to the US Constitution? Explain why you think that is the Wrong Direction. Because that's how you feel?
such an ignorant question the BIPARTISAN LAW already passed The House in 2016.
80% of americans support some ban on abortion, and 70% of americans support some abortion being legal
most people are quite in the middle on this
depends on which week in development. france Allows until week 14.
I think we should start with aborting all the women who can't keep their legs closed.
Do you think the same should happen to the men who can’t keep it in their pants? I don’t think these women got pregnant by themselves and if they used artificial insemination I doubt they are looking to abort.
@whirled_up_girl Why? Abortion is a "woman's health issue" and a "woman's right to choose" remember? If the man had any say whatsoever then it would be LITERAL SLAVERY. So no, it is 100% the retarded woman who needs to keep her whore legs closed.
Yeah I mean what was I thinking expecting a man to take responsibility to prevent unwanted offspring. That would be too much to expect of course.
@whirled_up_girl So you think men should have equal say in if a baby gets aborted, right? Surely you're not just another stupid hypocritical women who thinks men share responsibility for a child, but not when it comes to deciding if it lives or dies. But who am I kidding, a woman viewing a man as anything more than an ATM would be expecting too much of course.
Well real men take responsibility for the offspring they produce. Either way both parties should discuss what happens if an unwanted pregnancy should occur since it does take both to create it. Honestly if neither are on the same page then they shouldn’t be jumping in to bed together. I put the responsibility on both parties.
@whirled_up_girl Yeah right. There's no way you would think a woman should be forced to continue a pregnancy if the man who knocked her up wants to keep the baby but she wants an abortion. That's my point. You will talk about men taking responsibility for their part right up until the point of the decision to terminate the pregnancy, then your rhetoric switches to it being a "woman's health issue" and a "woman's right to choose". That's because modern women view men as little more than ATMs to extract resources from and take zero responsibility for their own actions. A woman can back out of an unwanted pregnancy by killing it, but a man doesn't have that choice. A man either has to be an ATM for the woman if she wants to keep the baby and he doesn't or just live with the fact that his child was murdered if he wanted to keep it and she doesn't.
Well, your point shows why abortion is happening at such high numbers in the first place, because men AND women don't think enough about what to do in case of an unplanned pregnancy before it happens. If some men continue to hold this view that they are not responsible to prevent any unplanned pregnancy, then, yeah, the numbers will keep staying high and keep going up. At least until both parties agree to take responsibility to prevent it from happening, which is what my point is.
@whirled_up_girl The only way to prevent it from happening is abstinence, which means women keeping their legs closed. Rape is all ready illegal so the only element missing from the picture is women taking any accountability at all by keeping their goddamn legs closed.
But of course, like I've said and you continue to ignore, that won't happen because it's much better to murder a child than make women face consequences for their own decisions even once in their lives.
I expect you'll continue to ignore this because women are incapable of self-reflection. You aren't physically capable of realizing your contradictory views of "men and women need to both take equal responsibility" and "abortion is a woman's right and health issue".
We can agree to disagree about because it’s clear neither of us are changing are stance.
I don’t know why you’re going on about self reflection. I am abstinent actually and I only date honorable men who believe any offspring they create would be their equal responsibility. I’ve never had an abortion or unplanned pregnancy but every man I’ve dated or would date has seen an unplanned pregnancy as something they should try to help prevent and be a responsible father going forward if it happened unplanned. As for the ATM thing I have never viewed a man as an ATM only an equal partner in life. I don’t need their money anyway but even so that would be dumb reason to get with someone.
@whirled_up_girl Again you're avoiding my simple point. You don't think that women should be forced to continue or abort a pregnancy if a man disagrees, right? But you do think that if a woman decides to abort the man just has to make do or if she decides to continue the man should be forced to provide financial support, right?
No I actually get the argument of men shouldn’t have to be responsible for a child if the woman wants to keep it and he doesn’t and I do think they should be able to sign away rights if they wish. Though if both parties are honest before intercourse takes place none of this would be a surprise. My point is outside of non- consensual sex it takes two willing participants to create a pregnancy so if that’s not the desired outcome it baffles me that some men would think they shouldn’t have to make any effort to prevent it.
@whirled_up_girl You have a more reasonable point of view than I originally thought. I think modern "sex education" can be blamed for that disconnect since it avoids advocating abstinence because of faulty logic like "well teens are just going to do it anyway" so you have people who don't really understand sex or the consequences of poor decisions. It's just "monkey brain like orgasm".
Then even though your viewpoint is reasonable, the majority view is completely devoted to preventing women from ever having to face consequences for their actions so they have no incentive to be honest or abstain because they can always avoid responsibility.
Economic issues are far more important and aren't getting enough attention
The majority of the USA is moving away from abortion. Hopefully the rest of the country follows
Politically, a good half of the country hates the idea of abortion. But when their rights are suddenly cut off they vote against it. We’re not a bright country.
They vastly underestimated how many people supported Roe v. Wade.
Of course banning abortions will work! That's how we stopped alcohol, drugs and guns... right?
The voters lead them, not the other way around.
They won't and won't care
Clearly Ohio was pushing not for the majority. So it struck down
I hope abortion is made illegal in all cases.
How do you know it's the wrong direction?
It's not all Republicans, just the boomers.
As they continue to lose elections.
you refer to the House now rnc majority?
@strateguy632 they exchange control of the house all the time for hundreds of years. they barely won it recently and can't win presidential elections.
wow... you need to read my question about presidents in history, link below, since republican party started most presidents were republican won, rnc are mostly winnrrs but dnc mostly losers, especially since clinton 20 years, only 2 dnc won all the rest lost dnc are MOSTLY losers so stop supporting them and hilary deleting computer drives is destroyed evidence so stop supporting dnc losers and dnc corrupt. lol.
@strateguy632 stupid logic
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