Do you think Trump will go to prison if he is convicted?

[msc545]

Trump is in major trouble. Do you think he wil go to prison if the is convicted?

Yes

No

[blueonblack22]

The democrats have open Pandora’s box here when it comes to using the legal system to take out their political competition. That does not mean Trump is squeaky clean but virtually no president and/or high level politician ever has been. There has always been a “gray zone”. Obama is likely culpable in the IRS targeting scandal (which the mass media swept under the rug as fast as they could). Hillary Clinton was extremely culpable with her email scandal. That was exponentially worse than Trump’s mishandling of info. Her emails were are on a server that James Comey blatantly said could be hacked by malevolent actors. Yet Trump did not stick his DOJ on Obama or HRC. Republican DAs weren’t going over after them. If they did it would be very bad for the country.

But democrats are either 1) completely deranged over Trump OR 2) they WANT trump to be nominated because chances are he will lose to Biden. I go more with the former. But this is absolutely horrible for our country.

Also now Pandora’s box is open do you believe for one second that Republican DA’s won’t go after Joe Biden at their first opportunity. Biden could easily be indicted with RICO considering what Hunter did. The law holds you culpable if your associated commit crimes you don’t even know about. It was intended to take down the mafia but now it’s being extended to politicians?

[John_Doesnt]

He was indicted by four grand juries, not the Democrats.

[blueonblack22]

@John_Doesnt charges were filed by leftist DAs. Alan Bragg and Fani Willis are blatantly politically motivated.

I’m not going to claim Trump’s squeaky clean. But don’t think it will end with Trump. Republican DAs WILL go after Biden when they get the first opportunity. Very easy to file an indictment via RICO given what Hunter was involved with.

But is this good for America? Using controversial laws like RICO to prosecute political opposition?

[John_Doesnt]

No, charges were filed by a grand jury for each separate indictment. He has been charged four separate times now with evidence supporting each indictment. You can't and won't accept the truth because you follow Donald like he's a God.

[blueonblack22]

@John_Doesnt “ Donald like he's a God.” do you really believe that? I actually do NOT want Trump nominated. Fuck no. I think he will lose the general election to that senile, corrupt and incompetent sorry excuse for a president Biden.

Biden had f*cked up everything most notably the economy and inflation which harms everybody INCLUDING YOU. I care about policy not f*cking optics. Biden was supposed be “empathic” or some ridiculous bs that swathes of democrats swallowed. So emphatic that he had “no comment” about the Maui wildfires.

I don’t give a rats ass about “empathy” or optics. I care about the economy and the Biden administration is directly responsible for hyperinflation.

[John_Doesnt]

the fact you think Democrats have anything to do with Donald's indictment means you're a GOP tool. He is indicted because there is mountains of evidence that he has committed multiple crimes. He was indicted by four separate grand juries. A grand jury is made up of every day citizens like a regular jury, both Republicans and Democrats were in those juries and they all agreed that there was enough evidence to indict Donald.

[blueonblack22]

@John_Doesnt why did the indictments come right before the primary election cycle? Why weren’t they filed two years ago?

And you 1) you assuming I’m a maga fanatic 2) calling me a “tool” is so stereotypically modern liberal. You are arguing like a woman. You take disagreements against your viewpoints like a personal insult.

At the end of the day liberals are going to be stuck with an 82 year old candidate who has obvious cognitive decline. It’s not just about optics but it’s about hard logic. His legislation has directly impacted hyperinflation. The average American family is now spending $700 a month more then only 2 years ago. Those are cold hard FACTS. That’s that are biting everyone’s ass including yours!

Trump would of not passed all this insane legislation and spending skyrocketing inflation. While his optics were horrible his economic policy was excellent. But optics is all that seems to matter to democrats.

“Never underestimate Joe Biden’s ability to fuck things up.”

- Barack Obama

“It’s about the economy stupid.”

- Bill Clinton

[John_Doesnt]

Again they are indictments. It is decided by a grand jury of regular people. You're just spreading conspiracy theories now.

[goaded]

If he doesn't, there is no justice in America. Some of the charges have a mandatory minimum 5 year term.

[BoopBoopBeep]

There hasn't been justice in america for far longer than trump's indictments started stacking up

[goaded]

@BoopBoopBeep I guess we'll see.

[goaded]

@BoopBoopBeep He might go to jail even before conviction, Georgia law requires that a court only release a person on bail if they pose "no significant risk of intimidating witnesses or otherwise obstructing the administration of justice". Can anybody say that Trump doesn't, with a straight face?

[BoopBoopBeep]

Legally there's a much higher bar to reach to deprive a defendant of freedom of movement than can be proved for trump. Every defendant CAN intimidate... somebody... but we still lose motions to keep them locked up when they're actually violent. First hand. With dried blood on their person. Not saying where I stand on it, just stating the odds.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

you got it the other way around buddy. you mean there is no justice in america if he goes to jail because obviously he didn't do shit. democrats just want to make shit up and get him arrested because they are too scared that he will win back the office next year.

not realizing that the more they do this to him the harder is gonna back fire on them in the long run

[msc545]

@Filthy_Immigrant Right. Democrats called the Georgia elections officials and told them to find votes for Trumpp. Right.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@msc545 or maybe the Georgia Elections Officials are democrats and are making up yet another plot to fuck up Trumps image. "since framing him as a sex offender didn't work then lets try to say that he rigged this election!"

lmao democrats just dont know that they are doing nothing but adding fuel to the fire

[goaded]

@BoopBoopBeep No, I quoted the Georgia law, which is law.justia.com/.../

"A court shall be authorized to release a person on bail if the court finds that the person:

Poses no significant risk of fleeing from the jurisdiction of the court or failing to appear in court when required;
Poses no significant threat or danger to any person, to the community, or to any property in the community;
Poses no significant risk of committing any felony pending trial; and
Poses no significant risk of intimidating witnesses or otherwise obstructing the administration of justice."

Trump does a lot of intimidating witnesses and otherwise obstructing the administration of justice.

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant "maybe the Georgia Elections Officials are democrats" LMAO.

They were Republicans, and there's a recording of Trump asking that they "find" enough votes to hand him the win.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded you are right, unfortunately not all republicans are saints. look at Pence for example, faggot was loyal to Trump as his vice president now all of the sudden he support the LGBTQ losers

and yeah I guess if I hear someone say there is a recording of goaded saying "find" him some crack to get high then I'm suppose to automatically believe it

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Your definition of "saint" is broken. They were willing to simply do their jobs without fear or favour, Trump tried to get them to lie for him and steal the presidency.

Have you seriously not heard the phone call to Raffensperger?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

yeah I heard it and I did not heard Trump once made any threats all I heard him explain how democrats stole the elections by adding dead voters from obiturary and many other things that made sense that democrats really did rigged

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant No they didn't, and Trump knew that they didn't. He'd hired two companies that both concluded there was no outcome-determinative fraud, multiple states also did audits and recounts, and they didn't find anything wrong, either. Election fraud was a lie they were preparing to tell before the election even started.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded yeah sure believe that, not that your opinions even matter cause you're not even American

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant They're not opinions, they're facts.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

yeah in your dreams they are. you wish they were facts

[BoopBoopBeep]

@goaded
Right. That's pretty much what it says in any jurisdiction I've ever been in. I'm just saying how things are written and how things play out in real life aren't always the same as how someone interpreted the law. That's why judges get overturned.

[Slingblade1126]

If all Trump did was ask Georgia election officials to find votes for him, he'll walk. That isn't a crime.

[goaded]

@Slingblade1126 That was far from all he and his co-conspiritors did. And interfering with an election is a crime, especially with Trump threatening Raffensperger with criminal investigation.

"Former President Donald Trump orchestrated a sweeping criminal enterprise, committing more than a dozen felonies, as he tried and failed to overturn his defeat in Georgia’s 2020 election, according to an indictment handed up Monday by a Fulton County grand jury."

"The indictment lays out several different areas of alleged criminal misconduct.

Among them:

The phone calls Trump made to Georgia officials, including Raffensperger and Gov. Brian Kemp.
The “alternate” GOP electors who cast Electoral College votes for Trump on Dec. 14, 2020 while the official Democratic electors cast votes for Joe Biden.
The false testimony given to state House and Senate committees, which led to threats and harassment of Fulton County poll workers Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss.
The copying of sensitive Georgia elections data in Coffee County, some 200 miles southeast of Atlanta, the day after the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U. S. Capitol."

[ChefPapiChulo]

Don’t mind Slingblade. He likes to pretend he’s a lawyer but he’s a little mental.

[Slingblade1126]

@ChefPapiChulo Actually I'm not disputing Trump's charges. I'm disputing the poster saying Trump telling Georgia officials to "find 11,000 votes" is a crime.

[goaded]

@Slingblade1126 Well, the president has no business saying anything about the election to the officials in the states, let alone telling they they face legal problems if they don't do what Trump says. That's interference. They had no evidence, they knew they had no evidence, they spent nearly three years promising evidence that has never and will never appear.

[msc545]

@Filthy_Immigrant Sure. Maybe little green Martians landed and did it and blamed Trump, right? Are you insane?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@msc545 its been over a day that I have not made a comment on this post. you mind explaining to me wtf are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Unless he’s re-elected and creates a constitutional crisis, then yes. I think he will likely spend many years behind bars. He’s committed unprecedented crimes in U. S. history. The top secret documents case alone should get him prison time, let alone the coup attempt. This is why his defenses to these indictments won’t fly in court and are designed for political benefit. They have him dead to rights. Getting elected is debatably his only chance to remain free.

[WhitneySnow]

I think he will

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Nope I don't think so

[RingOfFire]

Even if he goes to prison he can still be president. There is nothing that prevents that. I think that all of the charges against him is the last effort of the Democrats to try to rig another election. They tried to rig the 2016 election with the fake "Russian collusion" hoax against Trump, but they lost anyway. They rigged the 2020 election by covering up the Hunter Biden laptop before the election so people could not make an informed decision about how to vote. And now they are trying to rig the 2024 election by waiting two years after Trump is out of office to bombard him with all kinds of fake charges to try to tie him up to derail his entire campaign in the prime time election season. They know that he will win if it is a free and fair election and will do anything to stop the people from choosing who will be president. It is the most despicable and heinous act of treason against the people in US history.

The Democrats have become the party of America's enemies. China and Russia are cheering for them and can't wait for them to take America down the same communist rathole that took their own countries down.

[ChefPapiChulo]

you really believe that garbage?

[loveslongnails]

LMFAO I LOVE reading delusional rants from members of the "kool-aid cult", like yourself. Let's throw something at your head and see if it sticks:
* Since 1992, the Republicans have won the popular vote for President ONE TIME, and one time only.
* While they often rail against the Electoral College, they've won the White House twice DESPITE losing the popular vote in 2004 (Bush - talk about a fucking steal. THAT was the worst in history), and again with Trump in 2016.
* OF the top 10 gerrymandered states, 8 are Republican

The Republicans know for a fact that 62% of Americans disagree with their platforms on legal abortion in total, while a whopping 84% disagree with them on medical necessity and preserving the life of the mother. 66% disagree with their stance on green energy and global warming, 67% disagree with their stance on LGBTQ rights issues.

This is why Republicans weaponized emotional issues and create culture wars, and they're losing more every day as kids turning 18 will never support their restrictive and hateful platforms. So the TRUTH IS, they know that in a free and fair election for President, they will lose consistently at this point. Hence, their propaganda machine works overtime, lying as much as possible, whenever possible.

You're obviously wrong when you say Putin is rooting for Biden! LMAO Putin OWNS Trump, and he'd much rather see him in office. He knows that Trump would have found a way to keep the USA from backing Ukraine, and Russia would have walked all over them. LIke most right-wing comments, you have projected your lies on your opposition.

[John_Doesnt]

Myth: Donald was indicted by Biden or Democrats.

Fact: Donald was indicted by four different grand juries of every day people who looked at the evidence against him and decided there was enough evidence to prosecute him for his crimes.

Myth: you can indict a ham sandwich.

Fact: you need substantial evidence to indict anybody. If you don't have any evidence that a ham sandwich has committed a crime then you cannot indict it.

Myth: Donald has been mistreated and treated unfairly.

Fact: Donald has been special treatment and is allowed to leave the country, he has been allowed to use social media to threaten potential witnesses and he has been allowed to ignore court orders to turn over evidence.

Don't let the GOP lie to you about what is really going on. The writing is on the wall and his followers can't handle the truth.

[CurrentJohn]

99% Sure he won`t go to prison or if at all for a week or month at best. He simply just have the "I`m an ex president so no matter my crime I won`t go to prison for a long time" card. It is stupid and unfair and he deserves being a regular prisoner for years but that is just how the world works.

[lightbulb27]

I dont know enough of the situation as it isn't worth my time… how do i influence it unless called for jury duty. Id rather stay out if it. Being on a jury a lot of it is how the laws read, testimony of what is allowed. Add to it the political divide. If they can pick one far right person … he walks. Jail… no idea.


Napoleon went so never know…

[CaGirl2023]

Yes I do believe that Donald Trump will go to prison if he is convicted of all these crimes that he is accused of now. People want to see him punished.

[purplepoppy]

He isn't being treated like a normal criminal so far. He's not had his mugshot taken, is allowed to leave the country and isn't waiting years for a trial in jail. I doubt he'll be treated as one when he's found guilty.

[RealMarek]

He actually wants to have his mug shot taken and released publicly, but so far the authorities are not doing it because they fear it will further galvanize his support.

[A_Bell]

I really wish he would quietly disappear along with his supporters, with the caveat the Marxist left does too.

How are these two options all that we have?

[msc545]

There is no "Marxist Left"

[A_Bell]

Yeah, it's redundant.

[msc545]

It isn't even redundant. Marxists don't exist anymore and haven't for many years. The right always talks like Karl Marx is their neighbor. He isn't. The man has been dead for many, many years. There is no communist party to speak of in the United States anymore and has not been for years.

[exitseven]

No, it is never going to happen. He is not guilty of anything and he will not be found guilty even in the most rigged courthouse.

[Whlskey]

Most important part of the question is that little word that is often overlooked.

"if"

If anyone is convicted of a crime they will receive sentencing. Be it fines, jail, or restrictions (probation).

You or any person can be charged, accused, indicted, etc. of anything.

That doesn't mean you did it. It means someone wants everyone to think you did it.

[SolitarySolace]

In other words, trump is being falsely accused because of something stupid he has said. I’ve been there. Luckily I had my ex parte PPO changed to a temporary restraining order and never had to serve any time in jail. Hopefully trump won’t have to either.

[Whlskey]

@SolitarySolace not saying falsely accused just trying to maintain that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

[SolitarySolace]

I wasn't treated as innocent until proven guilty. Trump certainly isn't being treated as innocent until proves guilty

[Whlskey]

@SolitarySolace I believe you and wish that the process would've flawlessly worked but there is corruption and misunderstanding throughout. I feel that since you have been wronged in the past you know, first hand, that we need to promote and encourage the way that it was intended, innocent until proven guilty, rather than repeat what was done to you and what's being done to others.

[Anonymous]

I mean based on his following no. But I honestly think that part of the reason they dragging all of this out. Like negative political ads if you repeat a message long enough it's irrelevant if it's true after you repeat a falsehood ling enough it starts to be believed as true. I think the democrats think if they keep at this enough it'll start to wick away his following. And then they can jail him, make an example of him and then no one will challenge the established order ever again.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

He's not going to jail. Some of the people who put him in this position might be though since whistle blowers in the fbi are finally getting congressional hearings.

[coachTanthony]

People went to prison just for walking around the capitol building minding their own business so yeah I don't doubt it.

[msc545]

Insurrectionists were not " minding their own business"

[coachTanthony]

LOL thank god for video that is all I can say.

[coachTanthony]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFeNSpXZ7SY

[msc545]

You forgot the other video tapes showing them rioting and destroying property.

[msc545]

I'm not impressed with some clown in a YouTube video, waving his hands around and screaming in a fake British accent. You shouldn't be impressed either.

[coachTanthony]

LOL you can turn down the sound and just read but you wouldn't dare.

[msc545]

There's nothing on there worth reading. I find it really disappointing and even you can't figure out what actually happened.

[Goofy9009]

Yes he cannot be pardoned for5 years if convicted

[Snakeyes7]

I am not sure what to expect. I think the left might lose a lot of leverage of they git rid of the very thing they wouldn't shut up about for the last 8 years.

[FunkyMonkee]

First, they have to FIND SOMETHING to convict him FOR!!

[Dargil]

Trump will be 80 soon. The appeals will last 10 years. Naah.

[DWornock]

Of course not. Even the Democrats know Trump will win on appeal. They only want a conviction prior to the election by any foul method.

[sheenagwapa]

i hope not. i think he is a victim of the Politically Correct people

[Anonymous]

I don't think he'll be treated the same way as other criminals are treated.

[Anonymous]

He has so much money he can bail himself out. Worst comes to worst he will have to pay some hefty fines.

[ChefPapiChulo]

he's getting closer and closer to that. he's about to have his mug shot taken.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

nope, this is a free country and he has the right to fight back

[inhua]

at this point, people just want Trump to go to jail for the sake going to jail because he's a "meanie"

[Mybeachlife8888]

No, this just goes to show how brainwashed some people are. People like myself want him and everyone else who have gone too far with breaking the law to be prosecuted for it. No matter how much power they hold. Fuck them all. Lock them all up. No free passes anymore. Be accountable for your actions

[inhua]

@Mybeachlife8888 all these charges made against him have been proven false time and time again

and don't you find it convenient they are popping up close to election time? why not earlier?

[msc545]

As yet nothing has been proven or disproven. That is what trials are for.

[Mybeachlife8888]

It’s so hard to get through to the Trump supporters. There’s a legit reason people support trump, it’s because his target audience is a large population of people that struggle with critical thinking. It’s embarrassing that they can’t see past the bullshit. If I’m running against Trump, who is a threat to society, why wouldn’t I want to gather information and build a strong case to finally charge him with right before the election? Being tactical doesn’t change the fact that there’s enough evidence to indict him and require a trial. We can all admit that whether you like trump or not, he’s created chaos and destroyed relationships….. all of which is a tactic in gaining power himself. Time will tell what happens, get your popcorn!

[inhua]

@Mybeachlife8888 so where's the evidence?

[Mybeachlife8888]

Go ask the judge that allowed the indictments of trump. Do a little research. Let me guess, it’s just easier to assume everyone is against trump and they all collaborated to indict him? Lol ok bro

[Alex8736]

People who are mega rich never go to jail but an everyday average Joe definitely

[Kingofkings1992]

Lol, nope. You only go to prison if you have committed a crime, which Trump obviously has not. If anyone should be in prison, it’s the Biden administration.

[jshm2]

He'll join Epstein...

[Anonymous]

He's going to save America from this woke bull crap.

[Anonymous]

I really hope so.

[Miah05]

If convicted of certain crimes possibly.

[Mamaliv]

I’ll be shocked if he does

[Fuentes]

Nope, Trump 2024

[Anonymous]

Probably be like Silvio Berlusconi, house arrest

[whistlingwh0res]

Yes that goblin will

[gothbxtch]

i hope so

[Kingofkings1992]

Yeah, why would we want America to be doing well?

[KrakenAttackin]

Test

[KrakenAttackin]

Back out of the GAG solitary confinement... wow,. it's bright out here...

[Iron_Man]

How did you get your account frozen?

[BoopBoopBeep]

It's many things out here... bright isn't typically one of them...

Welcome back :)

[msc545]

Welcome home Kraken

[KrakenAttackin]

@Iron_Man Whenever a GAG mod doesn't like something I post , she freezes me for a few days.

[KrakenAttackin]

Thanks bro... you and I both know it won't last 😉

[Iron_Man]

WOW sorry

[KrakenAttackin]

@Iron_Man it's nothing new.

[Iron_Man]

I guess you don’t know who it is

[Confused_About_Girls]

He will get pardoned if convicted.

[msc545]

By whom?

[Gobluebigtenchamps]

I hope

[Cherkez]

Hope not