Why are generation Z men are becoming more conservative while generation Z women are becoming more liberal?

[Anonymous]

[D_Bone_Steak]

Everybody seems to be picking "team whatever" based on what might serve their interests the most. Perhaps I'm guilty of that as well...

Political tests put me as a liberal with a libertarian viewpoint. I view myself as the kind of guy that wouldn't want anything to do with abortion in my own life... but I really want dumb fuckers to kill their own. I just want money and to grab women by the pussy... can you guess who I voted for?

Imagine being a kid right now and you can't vote... you're watching all these damn Millennials voting a old bastard in that hires trannys for everything, also sexuality, and race... instead of anything close to what we would call... egalitarianism. Their looking at this shit show where pretending to be the opposite gender will get you further than anything else. Smoke crack... you can do hookers and get a free ride in life just like his kid.

So back to the question... if you and I was sitting back watching this insanity and we just want to jerk off to chicks on the internet and play video games... would you go for that hot mess of gender bender bullshit or something a little more normal? Bud Light or something that might actually get you drunk? You want pronouns and to be recognized for them or just have people leave you the fuck alone? Yeah man... I can see why these kids are picking a side, and they're not even like me flipping shit over after I paid $100 at the gas pump and the pump machine cut me off.

The women... I have an outsider's view on them. They're either going to hold me to standards and expect me to help them out... or they're holding their vagina open with spralled spider fingers yelling "Next!, I'll just abort it anyways!" Not my problem... but I bet any of you can guess which one is the modern liberal.

[pervertedjester]

Children often rebel against the status quo and their parents.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

It’s mostly covid culture exposure. Their most impressionable years creating their identity were spent indoors, unable to leave, with these connections online being all they had and they imprinted it in their heads as they took in media that most appealed to their demographics.

[Spongebobssocks]

The red pill is not conservative lol.. they are the flip coin of feminists.😂

[ManOnFire]

That's a good point. Here and there some RedPill stuff makes sense, but overall it is like a kind of feminist movement for men.

[Spongebobssocks]

@ManOnFire yup I agree! Many flaws in it

[inhua]

feminism has turned into a monster. only a bigger monster can fight and defeat the monster

[Spongebobssocks]

@inhua you dont put out fire with fire. The only way I've been able to turn a feminist to be non feminist is by being supportive and keep stating women are needed too while debunking their argument with data. Because if you answer emotionally to a person that is emotional then it never ends well..

[inhua]

the red-pill has been doing all that you've stated. they're not anti-women as mainstream media has makes them out to be. they're not changing laws or anything, only spreading awareness of the truth about feminism so people can be more informed and not get blindsided

difference is conservatives use a more softer approach and they get taken advantage of. nothing against conservatives but it's foolish to send a diplomat to face a warrior. reversing liberalism was never going to be easy. the counter culture needs to stay strong

the best thing feminism ever did was bring the public's attention to the red-pill and regardless of demonization, it does invoke curiosity and with large numbers, the public will begin to question the effects of liberalism

[Spongebobssocks]

@inhua no red pill is not conservative at all... not if you think of tradiotionel marriges. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it depends what you see as conservative.

Would you see Andrew Tate as conservative (the man that promotes onlyfans and is okay with his wife doing it as long as he gets paid)?

[DarkWinterNights]

Conservatives tend to be red pill and it’s used pretty Interchangeably these days, but the Red Pill is more anti-government/rebel against society than specifically dating or gender related.

[inhua]

red-pill isn't entirely on any side of the political spectrum. it's all about revealing the truth

Andrew Tate never claimed to be conservative but he certainly knows how to argue against liberalism a lot better than conservatives do.

if watch the interview between Candace Owens and Andrew Tate, you'll find that they come across the topic of the culture wars which many conservatives do not address very well

respect, traditionality, family, God are all spiritually important but don't invoke human primal desires the same way degenerate lifestyles do hence why they're degenerate yet instinctively exciting to many

[Datboi65]

Bro that's exactly what I said. A bunch of incel losers. Nothing more, nothing less. We have to remove any movement that favors gender, feminism and manosphere. Bring back traditional values.

[Datboi65]

@DarkWinterNights All due respect, modern conservatives are nothing but whiny losers. Low testosterone beta males (and I really don't like using that term because it's cringeworthy). The red-pill may debunk some aspects of feminism, but it promotes equally degenerate criteria like "woman should be OK with her man cheating" and "men should get a vasectomy in their 20s". Rollo Tomassi said that exact line, go argue with him. If you believe young men should have to cut their dick - excuse my French - rather than excercise discipline, then you my friend should rethink your values.

[inhua]

@Datboi65 nobody is listening to the red-pill for the lifestyle of their reps. it's about spreading awareness and allowing non-woke people to navigate through the woke society with as little unnecessary drama as possible

[Datboi65]

@inhua If you can't take advice from them, then DON'T cheer for them. There used to be a time when a young man would ask for life advice from his father/uncles, and now it's from internet gurus online that don't practice what they preach. What kind of clown show is this? If you have a problem with the lack of role models, try to be that man that has integrity and self-respect. Try to be that role model who's a man of his word and not a hypocrite. Take the initiative and be that person, but make sure that you're doing it for the right reasons. Don't follow any morons who offer overpriced bs courses on how to run pyramid schemes and crypto scams, because that's what most of these fools are doing. I'm sick and tired of this nonsense, and hopefully one day I will change it myself.

[inhua]

@Datboi65 this isn't about taking advice. you must be referring to pickup artists and dating coaches and funnily enough everybody including feminists want to regurgitate the same cliche advice PUAs use that has been proven bullshit time and time again

the red-pill simply presents data and evidence and readers make their own conclusions and judgements based on the data and evidence and apply it to their lives where they see fit

this is about the message, not the messenger. nobody cares how many women these gurus have or haven't fucked. but people do want to understand and know to deal with certain things e. g. identifying a bad woman and the best way to deal with them, is marriage worth it i. e. cost-benefit analysis, likelihood of divorce if married to a high body count woman, how to avoid a MeToo etc.

[Datboi65]

@inhua The messenger is also an important tool in spreading the message. In your profile, you wrote in your own words "actions speak louder than words. What someone does is a lot more true than the words that come out of their mouths." If a man's actions do not align with his words, he has low credibility and his message should be discarded. It's that simple. If you go back in time and study all the successful leaders, you will realize that their word was their bond, something that lacks in today's society.

Stats and data are a great tool, but they are not the full picture. Remember that the data should support a specific agenda/argument that's being made, but if your actions are in direct contradiction with the argument that you're making, then the other party will simply not listen. It's a social rule that exists, and you can complain about it but you can't change it. Credibility is important, and hypocrisy is going to set you back. Simple as that.

[inhua]

@Datboi65 the messenger is only important for those who wish to follow in their footsteps or determine what their thoughts and desires are. if a particular messenger you don't like says global warming isn't real, it doesn't make him any less wrong

facts are facts regardless of the messenger. they don't just change because somebody else said it. if a fat person says being fat is unhealthy, they are correct even though they themselves are fat. yes it sounds ironic but doesn't make it any less true

not every piece of data has an agenda behind it. for example, who are the divorce stats for? I think it's important for people to be aware of this rather than let Hollywood and social media put a blanket over everyone's lives while we walk past homeless people on the street everyday

at the very least the red-pill has been people talking and thinking twice about many things we take for granted. this time a disrespectful woman might reconsider disrespecting her man. a man might reconsider marrying a hoe. this a good thing in the long run

[Datboi65]

@inhua You forgot the one critical piece of information I just mentioned, which is why context is important. I didn't say you have to "like" the messenger, I said the messenger should NOT be a hypocrite. Big difference.

A man like Andrew Tate has said that moral degeneracy is the fall of the Westz but he has personally bragged about using webcam girls to scam desperate men for money. This has NOTHING with me liking/not liking him, it had everything with him OBJECTIVELY being a hypocrite. Full stop.

You can't twist and change what I said, so next time read it properly.

[Datboi65]

@inhua For every time you bring data, it's usually for an argument/agenda. If you say bring up data that links obesity with increased risk of stroke and sudden cardiac death, that data is used to support an argument/agenda that "being fat is unhealthy". You never bring up data for no reason, it's always to support a pre-existing argument. Now imagine the person telling you to become fit is morbidly obese, are you going to take their advice? I will leave that one for you to decide.

[inhua]

@Datboi65 Andrew Tate's webcam business was over 10 years ago before he became religious. he mentioned specifically how he was able to obtain new evidence through the business and discover how some men's minds were

he preaches hard-work and resiliency, he's not a hypocrite in that. no I don't believe a message is defined by the person saying it, it is defined by the truth.

I don't take anyone's advice but my own. I do my own research and find my own conclusions from that. if a fat person wants to say being fat is unhealthy, they are allowed to and we shouldn't have shit on them for doing so. also do tell me what my agenda is? what do you think I hope to gain from this agenda? why does it matter if data supports a pre-existing argument when it's true?

[Datboi65]

@inhua Bro, that "he did that 10 years ago" crap doesn't work here. Here's a clip of him recently BRAGGING about his webcam side hustle from last year:

https://youtu.be/WKibLhAGP1A

The clip is 9 minutes long, not a short. Some good amount of context in there, so you can't lie about that either. He's not super religious either, he still owns casinos in Romania after converting to Islam when we all know that gambling in Islam is haram. I will give him time to see if he changes his actions in the future, but for now he's still a degenerate.

Once again, objectively speaking the people usually pay attention to both the MESSAGE as well as the MESSENGER. You have to have perfect balance between the two. You don't have to like it, but that's how society operates. The key to changing how people think is to understand what makes them more open to knew ideas, and hypocrisy us definitely a sure way to get people to shut down when they're being presented with new information, even if the information is accurate. They're gonna think "this guy doesn't care about his own advice, why should I?" That's a part of the human mind you must accommodate when presenting forward your perspective to other people. Even if they don't like your words, they will respect you and your beliefs because you're not a hypocrite, which may leave them open to your ideas in the future.

[Datboi65]

@inhua You live in an intellectually "ideal world" but I live in the real world. You're thinking "it shouldn't matter what I do if what I say is the truth" while I think "balance the telling the truth with having your words align with your actions so people can better accept your message". Which idea do you think is more likely to work in the long run? Look around you, countless efforts have been made to get feminism to slow down by red pill creators, and they're highly unsuccessful. Feminism is getting more and more extreme, now you have rad fems seriously starting a "kill all male babies" movement. This is no joke, and should be taken very seriously. Where's your leadership to pushbacn against that? They're too busy arguing about why you shouldn't get married and rather become a high-value man, when the feminists are organizing more effectively. Your ideas are less effective in the real world, it's time to face the truth. Following fake gurus and hypocrites isn't gonna solve any problem, and the results speak for themselves.

[inhua]

@Datboi65 yes I've seen clips of him bragging about such as he's bragged about a lot other things. if you're trying to convince me he's not a good person, I never said he was a good person to begin with. I don't think there's enough evidence to condemn of his alleged crimes.

either way people can choose to pay attention to the message, messenger or both. I don't tell people what to choose but I will defend my right to choose what I choose. the circumstances are different for each individual and more often than not red-pill people know their limitations. a 5'3 Indian janitor is not going to look at Brad Pitt picking up girls and take his advice even if Brad isn't a hypocrite in what he does. likewise a 5'7 white boy is not going to look at LeBron James dunking a basketball with 2 hands and take his advice on how to do the same. people's lives are tailored differently than others but certain messages can remain universal under the right circumstances

[Datboi65]

@inhua Bro, stop with the arbitrary way of thinking of "like vs don't like" and "good person vs bad person" when that's not what I said. I didn't label his character in anyway related to his morals, other than calling him a hypocrite. This oversimplification is where you're missing the point. The Brad Pitt example you gave, if Brad Pitt follows the same advice that he gives, that Indian guy gonna be more inclined to actually listen to what's being said. That's the whole point. Facts are great, but when the messenger doesn't even believe in their own facts through their own action, that sends a powerful message that they're unreliable. For those with the knowledge they can separate the message from the messenger, since they are more familiar with the message than your average person. For most people however, that's definitely not the case. A newbie cares a lot about who's giving the advice as well as what the advice is. Don't take medical advice from a Doctor who believes in witchcraft medicine, because it reflects poorly on them as it contradicts with actual medical knowledge. Someone with an MD may then come in and fact-check what the Doctor said and tell you that it was indeed accurate, but if you're someone who has not a single clue what's being said, then your protective mechanism is to not accept the advice given by someone that doesn't follow it in their life.

[inhua]

@Datboi65 I don't promote any ideal world nor do I tell people how to run their lives. when feminists or male feminists want to bring up a false narrative, I debunk it real quick. more often than not, I'm having to deal with people who's first argument is to immediately resort to slander and an appeal to emotion

red-pill creators are unsuccessful due to cancel culture and mass banning on platforms as are parents who stand up against sexuality being taught in schools. feminism is successful because they have the backing of mass media corporations, pop culture, social media, academia etc.

[ Where's your leadership to pushback against that? ]

great question. who do you think they are? what do you think they can do? our politicians ain't doing jack shit whether it's Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden etc.

feminists don't need to worry when they have male feminists to fight on their behalf and cause division amongst men. Mother Nature and Father Time will eventually correct its course

results aren't suppose to come fast. sure some people will be sacrificed in the process but eventually the government will have to address this at some stage either by abolishing it completely or pushing further to the extreme i. e. communist USA where the public will finally be awaken to the truth

[inhua]

@Datboi65 well you're not wrong about most people. I'll give you that

[Datboi65]

@inhua Once again, you missed my point. Allow me to elaborate, since we seem to be talking about 2 different things:

Red pillers fail in recruiting new people with opposite views. They may be good at presenting data, but where they fail is in convincing others to critically think and see the world from an objective viewpoint. This is where nuance comes into play. Cancel culture is a factor, but even in environments where cancel culture is less likely to take effect, the red pill somehow still cannot convince women to join. You have podcasts that invite women on their show and give out all of this data, and pay attention how these women react. Do you think they care about data? No. So here's the next question, as an objective thinker, how am I supposed to get them to see the world from this point of view? What I said was gonna help is being a man of your word and practicing what you preach. Even if they don't like you, they're gonna respect you.

I'm not gonna get into the topic of how feminism became and continues to be successful, since I can probably write articles on that whole thing. One thing I will say about feminists, they do exactly what they say that they'll do (the negative stuff). If she says she's gonna be a hoe, best believe it. If she says she wants to be by herself, that's gonna happen. There's a pattern of predictability, and that cannot be said about the manosphere.

[Datboi65]

@inhua If you want to win the culture war, you have to learn how to recruit people. Simple as that. It's not an ego contest. A successful message has two major compartments: how well a message is being delivered, and how effectively its being received by the target. You can only control your delivery, not how it's received. Those who will continue to argue with you after being a man of integrity and moral character, and having the data to back up your argument are basically people who will never change their minds and at that point is when you move on. It holds true that you can't save everyone, but make no mistake I believe there's plenty of room for improvement and the bar needs to be significantly higher than where it is today.

[inhua]

@Datboi65 the reverse is also true for feminists recruiting those with opposite views. eventually the truth does come out and people are naturally more inclined to side with the truth when they don't see something making sense.

respect doesn't necessarily translate to agreeing e. g. Kobe respects Shaq but doesn't agree with Shaq being out of shape.

I do agree respect is important but I don't think it should invalidate someone just because you don't respect them even if their points are true. now feminists won't be thinking like this but the ones who have converted have done so with the realization of their problems

if by method of recruiting you mean by catering more to their emotions, then this is where a more logical woman would come into play like Christina Hoff Summers or even Candace Owens because kinship and identity is still intrinsically important to people

[ One thing I will say about feminists, they do exactly what they say that they'll do ]

eh? sure, when they're pissed but they've often led gullible men astray when giving dating advice but yeah their actions are more of an indication of what they'll do

the manosphere is divided into many sections. that depends which one you're looking at

[inhua]

@Datboi65 well I don't disagree there

[Spongebobssocks]

@inhua @Datboi65

I have to agree with @Datboi65 we need to bring back traditional values and the red pill is far from it. If you look up traditional marriages @inhua you will see only fans has nothing to do in that area. In traditional marriages loyalty is super important. There is no cheating allowed. And definatly no adult content being made. No traditional man would be okay with selling his wife online. I personally believe if a man loves a woman he will protect her and clearly that is not protecting her.

We see woman taking care of the children and the house and the man working. The man is the head of the household. He makes the finale desitions but that doesn't mean he abuses his wife. He doesn't talk like Fresh and Fit do to their ONE and only wife.

Also the argument with him being muslim is clearly only so he can be married to more than one woman. Now I'm not a muslim but I have a friend that is muslim that has relatives with more than one wife and I can assure you that husband NEVER slept around, did adult content or see their wifes as hoes..

The red pill helps people be traditional the same way Cardi B helps women bring value with their bodies... it doesn't work. It's wrong.

@inhua but I'm glad you want to stop feminism. It has become very toxic indeed.

[DarkWinterNights]

Way too many people in here are treating “red pill” like a movement a group or an organization. There are popular influencers who identify as “red pilled”, but there's no membership or gate keeping. It’s literally just a state of mind.

[Spongebobssocks]

@asker 7iThank you for MHO!😀

[MzAsh]

They’re responding to what they’re figuring out what benefits their respective gender.

[CALIGVLA]

This is BS.

How many men are getting f*cked in life because they don't have access to healthcare and stable jobs?

And how many women deal with depression and bitterness?

Such benefits... Men and women are supporting their own dispossession and thinking they're winning every time they say mean things about the other gender.

[monorprise]

A husband (source of income and benefits) that lets you do whatever you want and asks nothing of you. Yes women what that, they don't want to pay for it but the cute politician told them other people would pay for it for them.

The men find out they are paying for the women who do nothing for sociability or even their families, just as they are paying for the men who sit on their asses doing nothing for anyone. Because their corrupt pelicans would rather buy their vote with money they take from a minoty.

[DWornock]

Because girls are stupid enough to believe that everyone is entitled to a living wage, adequate food, clothing, and housing, and unlimited health care and free education. And, they want the government to force people other than themselves to pay for all that. Furthermore, they are too stupid to understand that no society has the resources to pay for all that.

[MzAsh]

If paying my way keeps people’s mouths shut about my choices, it’s a small price to pay. I don’t care about having anyone pay for my anything. I just am not going to listen to their opinions.

[MzAsh]

And I think that’s what a lot liberal women need to understand. If you want to ask everyone else to pay for your shit, they think they have leverage. They think they have a say in what you do with your body and life, and that’s exactly what women don’t need anymore.

[Datboi65]

Young men aren't getting any more conservative, that's a lie. Look at the amount of LGBT and soyboys that has grown up in numbers in this generation. The drop in testosterone, the demonization of masculinity by MEN even before the feminists do it. How many male feminists are out there? How many dudes are using "AI girlfriends"? How many guys are scared of calling out the trans community? How many?

None of this is conservative, and if that's what conservatism has gone to, then you guys are a joke. Conservatives ironically are also the biggest consumers of pornography from what the data shows. You participate in the same degeneracy that you criticize. I mean seriously, who do you think you're fooling?

I'm not a conservative, I don't use that term. It's funny, because I'm probably more socially strict than a lot of so-called "conservatives" out there who wear MAGA hats and drive trucks. America is doomed without traditional values, and traditional values do NOT equal the modern Republican party, not in that sense. They got too many scandals to count. If you want to do this right stop being a bunch of hypocrites and have some integrity.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Well said..

[ObscuredBeyond]

GenZ men aren't. They're leaning more toward the false right. Women are becoming more and more the Tide eater left. It's because of have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too narcissistic delusions. Wokeism has left men feeling antagonized, slandered, and isolated, so they withdraw, rather than come together. They care only how to shield themselves against being made to care, when everyone who wants them to care, as far as they know, is only intending that caring as a spring trap to weaponize against them.

Real conservative men don't "hate all women;" but nor do they let abusive, lying narcissists get a free pass.

So the MGTOW and what-not Zoomer men are missing the fundamental point to everything. Meanwhile, Wokeism is a trap for women as well. They only THINK they benefit from it; but the bait and switch comes later in life. The fact that they keep trying to kill Chloe Roma for pointing out their foolishness further illustrates their Dunning-Kruger.

At day's end, they're both lost in their own echo chambers, both allergic to truth, but in different ways and for different reasons.

[cosmosis181]

This guy☝️🔥👌

[Still-alive]

Lauren Chen is a right wing grifter and this is a complete lie. Gen Z and now Gen alpha are the most progressive left leaning generations this country has ever seen. and no they are not going to turn Conservative either as they age. millennials are currently bucking that trend now.

"Pew Research Center surveys conducted in the fall of 2018 (more than a year before the coronavirus outbreak) among Americans ages 13 and older found that, similar to Millennials, Gen Zers are progressive and pro-government, most see the country’s growing racial and ethnic diversity as a good thing, and they’re less likely than older generations to see the United States as superior to other nations"

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/05/14/on-the-cusp-of-adulthood-and-facing-an-uncertain-future-what-we-know-about-gen-z-so-far-2/#fn-28453-1

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/millennials-will-not-age-into-voting-like-boomers.html

[DextroShade]

It's simple: the left demonizes men and masculinity while the right doesn't. Why would men join the side that not only ignores their plights but actively and openly hates them? The left offers men nothing but scorn, but guys like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson not only recognize and acknowledge their plights but also effective solutions for them; on the rare occasion the left acknowledges men's problems they will say it's the men's fault, say that somehow women are the real victims, and that the solution is for men to act more like women.

Contrast this with how the left treats women, where they tell them all that they are beautiful, successful queens who deserve whatever they want even she is an obese baby momma and that all their problems are men's fault.

[supercutebutt]

Andrew Tate is a woman-hating Muslim now. And he is a human trafficker who rapes :)

[DextroShade]

@supercutebutt I have yet to see any evidence of that so I am inclined to believe that Tate is innocent and the accusers are lying.

[supercutebutt]

Are you also denying he is a follower of Islam?

[DextroShade]

@supercutebutt no, I get that a lot of manosphere dudes like Islam because unlike Christianity it has more successfully resisted feminism.

[Stoner710]

Men always want to be edgy. They always want to be the cool counterculture rolls are in charge men go the opposite way, so it only makes sense of GenZ, which is now getting out of high school and college turn to be more conservative in time the women because they wanted to get the older guy, so the alpha generations probably going to be more conservative and the liberal Genzie girls will either be lonely or find a guy like me who's more conservative and I'm 30 also, if you will like Andrew Tate the better bachelor, don't help liberal women at all. even though I am largely against the pump and dump, I don't want my check posting shit online for the pleasure of other guys I don't care how much she makes on it she can make $100 million a year. I still would not want her doing that?

[BCA6010]

I take "polling data" with a copiously large bag of salt, especially because I had to organize a few for a college course. My real world experience with Gen Z has been overwhelmingly taking every trend of Gen Y to the next level, and the only recent shift I've seen at all is rejection of gender theory extremism, which is pretty evenly balanced between men and women. That alone does not overshadow other trends or indicate the kind of cultural shift that Lauren and other conservative podcasters claim.

[PositiveFlight]

I’ve met a lot of women who are part of gen z who reject the woke progressive culture too. Such women typically are more willing to think outside the box and recognize reality that the liberal and progressive woke agenda is not truthful and even a form of communism. Covid was a good test, women who didn’t buy into the media and government propaganda also rejected masks and vaccines because they knew it was a lie. Women who reject woke culture and liberalism typically tend to have a higher maturity factor as well. They don’t care about reality TV or Hollywood, or fashion trends. They concern themselves more with wanting to be free and not micromanaged by the government and their neighbor. They are more down to earth. Women who have a faith or a belief in God are typically more prone to being conservative as well.

[Danny_dan92]

People are just fucken stupid.






I’ll make it simple. Every single movement pushing for the “equality” of any particular group in all actuality happens because those people want special treatment. NOT to feel equal, unless you live in a communist country every country is equal and fair for everyone.




People just don’t want to work hard for things they want. Minus a minor exceptional group of the population.




Everyone wants to look sexy and be healthy, not everyone wants to workout and eat right to be that way.




Everyone wants a lavish lifestyle and not struggle financially, not everyone wants to apply themselves and work hard to obtain that life.






It’s people that lack the drive to join such movements and claim life isn’t fair. No. Fuck you. You’re lazy. And you lack drive and ambition

[disgustingweebtrash]

Because media is liberal and women follow what the media says because they are social creatures, if the media said red is black tomorrow then most women would agree and even enforce that view, the media also shits on men 24/7 and so men swing in the opposite direction of the media, andrew tate for example suddenly came out of nowhere and resonated with a lot of men which does reflect a lot on how society has treated men for the past few decades in this pointless pursuit of empty egalitarianism

[Deserter2]

Women are conformists, they need a second opinion on everything, pathetic

[CALIGVLA]

I despise the woke cult with all my might. I think the woke is a social disease and they only bring problems, never solutions.

However, I'm not so thrilled about conservatives and libertarians, and if their worldviews were worth shit, they wouldn't have been BTFO'd day after day.

[Kaamraj]

The liberal agenda of today benefits the LGBTQ and cis women communities. Young men are finding themselves isolated and demonized. The right and celebrities like Mr. Tate and religious movements like Islam is acknowledging them and showing them a way, so it's natural that young men are gravitation in that direction.

[jennifer_bloom]

Men are wired to maintain the bottom line and women are wired to protect the fringe weakling in society so a woman is more interested in the socialism of the democrats and a man is more interested in the bottom line social controls of the conservatives.

[abc3643]

This really ought to be your question:

"Why are Generation [whatever] men are becoming more conservative while generation Z women are becoming more liberal?"

This naturally occurs in all generations and this is because of the evolutionary differences between males and females.

This is why it is good that males created the world we live in but now it's time that females take over and lead.

[abc3643]

"Why are Generation [whatever] men are becoming more conservative while Generation [whatever] women are becoming more liberal?"

[RealMarek]

If you’re a young straight white male without wealthy connections, what does your future hold in this country? You’re discriminated against by schools and employers, you’re the subject of bigoted and even genocidal rhetoric. Of course you will look for which party likes this and your politics will move the other direction.

[captain_voidwalker]

Well when 1/2 of the political isle spends all day telling men they're evil and responsible for everything bad on the world. And that men should literally kill themselves. Is it any wonder they flock to the other side that says hey work hard and you can find some happiness in life

[DarkWinterNights]

What has leftism done for men? Literally every aspect of a man’s life is worse now than it was 10, 20-30 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Why would they be liberal? Liberals want to encourage men to be weak, effeminate, and to put the wants and needs of women above their own. That's what a "good man" is to them, and that's obviously not what men want.

[ProbablyClueless]

The men recognize that they are getting fucked over, while the women see liberalism as the path to maximizing their freedom.

[Anonymous]

I was alt left from school indoctrination until I was 15, then I started asking questions. I'm pretty right wing conservativr now but this wave of incels is pushing me back to moderate. They're just like the feminists just the other end of the spectrum... also it's a lot less pathetic when a woman whines about being oppressed than it is for a man to. Cmon guys man the fuck up lol.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if it is all the difference in agreeableness in the sexes.

Women score more in agreeableness so it is more likely to go along with trends even if they think it is completely moronic. Men are more likely to just ignore or actively fight against trends they find moronic.

[Anonymous]

Because we are sick and tired of the left and their bullshit... Here is the funny thing, if you got rid of new york and the west coast, this entire nation would be red.

[Anonymous]

When you have to start living in the real world, you become conservative. When those women start having children they have to protect, they will become conservative. Leftism is for brainless people with no responsibilities.

[mobiusforniner]

Picking a side lacks individuality. Its tribalism. Im conservative and liberal. Who cares?

[Asker]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend though

[mobiusforniner]

So you bond with people based on hating somebody else? That sure a nice way to live.

[exitseven]

The guys are realizing that they will never earn enough money to move out of moms basement the way the democrats have messed things up

[Anonymous]

Proably because the women want the goverment for a husband as almost none of the men are good enough to meet their "Standards", and they can't afford tiny number of men who are.

[InsecureLivesMatter]

That video creator is an idiot. Nick Fuentes is not a conservative. He is radical-right. Big f*ckin difference. Andrew Tate might not even be either.

[InsecureLivesMatter]

Honestly, I think Tate is politically homeless. He claims Muslim, but he's not fundamentally in that religion. Islam is a very fundamental religion unlike Christianity.

[Quigly]

I haven't seen women becoming more liberal. Most women in the workforce have a very blue-collar mindset. More and more women are entering the workforce.

[SolitarySolace]

Because women don’t realize being liberal means you hate everything except yourself.

[jeffend888]

Liberal women do hate themselves. They’re single, 35 with no kids.

[SolitarySolace]

That or they have children but no father in the household so that she can raise them to be just as hateful as she is herself

[jeffend888]

That too.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Conservativism benefits men while liberalism benefits women.

People lean to what they think will benefit them so that's your answer.

[AngryCarl2]

It's called polarization. The Jewish media has your number.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Because men have always been more conservative than women. This isn’t anything new

[Sabretooth]

Conservatives only prop up white men... Vocally, anyway.

[Fuentes]

Sjws are insane

[DarkLegacy]

The men are getting it right

[Dargil]

Because they know the truth.

[msc545]

Conservative isn't as fun as liberal.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

weird I thought all Gen Zs were liberals

[zebronics]

Because Women are easy to pursuade!

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Lol gen z are fake conservatives

[MaxUsefull]

Because men realized feminism is dangerous

[canadianpanda]

That's actually interesting