President Biden has said he supports Israel. Today he said he will send 100 million dollars to the Palestinians. Is he buying votes? ?

[exitseven]

He is playing both sides. He needs the Jewish vote and it looks like the liberals are backing the terrorists so he doesn't want to alienate them either.

[Anonymous]

I don't know about this, but I had read somewhere he's going to ask Congress in the coming days to approve about $100 billion in emergency funds to arm Israel and Ukraine

[exitseven]

I can't see how that much money can go out the door without congressional approval.

[Opinion Owner]

Thank you for MHO

[lightbulb27]

Tryimg to appease iran and others to avoid a broader war. What dows the $ go into exactly and whom received it.
It all sounds like bs…

[exitseven]

Biden says it is for humanitarian aid. I bey they spend it on rockets

[lightbulb27]

at least he didn't send a trillion to Iran... could be worse. A 100 million... what % of our GDP is that? Aide is important, but 100 million? 100 million of what? you know how much lentils and rice that is? It's $50 gift card per palestinian.
Why don't we just fly them to our souther border... they can live in Texas, similar climate. Like I said... just move into Crawford Texas... kick bush out. Not like it be an "occupation"...

[nightdrot]

While superficially you have a point, it is oversimplifying things a bit - and I say this as no fan of President Biden. Indeed, it is not too much of a stretch to say that the current crisis has its' origins, at least in part, because Mr. Biden opted to reverse the policies of his predecessor, Mr. Trump, of whom I am also no fan. Though Mr. Trump's foreign policy had a degree of realpolitik that made it effective and appropriate to the times.

In terms of domestic politics, both parties are badly divided right now as the nation is experiencing a populist phase that has placed significant segments of the parties against themselves. Thus, is a large faction of the Republican party opposed to support for Ukraine in the same way that a large faction of the Democratic party is opposed to Israel.

Historically, the Jewish vote had been Democrat and the party as a whole was strongly pro-Israel. However, the hallmark of populism is opposition to "elites" and "the establishment" and thus a faction of the Democrats - especially those identified with the liberal "Squad" - has turned against Israel. This, by the way, having the effect of slowly moving the Jewish vote into the Republican camp.

In fairness to your analysis, Mr. Biden is an old-school Democrat - inept to be sure - who is trying to bridge that gap within his party. Thus in part his actions toward the Palestinians. However, his actions are not entirely divorced from the USA's historic national interests.

The USA is a creedal nation. That is to say, a nation with its' identity rooted in adherence not in ethnicity or race or a common language, but rather in adherence to a set of ideas. These best laid out in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, the Gettysburg Address, among other sources.

This gave American foreign policy a certain cast that made it well suited to the ideological conflicts of the mid to late 20th century - see also World War II and the Cold War. (World War I was rooted in realpolitik until, ironically, the Russian Revolution and American intervention transformed it into an ideological conflict - another world war rooted in ideology to follow. That, however, is another story.)

The USA's pro-Israel position was rooted in the strategic interests of the nation viewed through the prism of the ideological Cold War. However, with the end of the Cold War the world has reverted back to a realpolitik character. The USA was not well equipped to handle this until Mr. Trump - another populist of whom I am no fan - came into office.

His foreign policy, to his credit, was rooted, however un-self-aware, in realpolitik and he sought to isolate Iran. Thus the "Abraham Accords" with the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain. Thus the first stirrings of peace between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Thus, the abolition of Mr. Obama's nuclear arms deal with Iran. However, to make this work, the USA had to seem to be working toward a settlement of - or a least to be keeping a lid on - the Israel/Palestine conflict.

Trump - by making the USA energy independent, by draconian sanctions on Iran, and various other methods - managed to agitate the divide between Iran and the Arab states and forge a quasi-alliance between the Arabs and Israel. Then Mr. Biden came into office and is the won't of populist politicians, he reversed the policies of his populist predecessor - it being added here that populism is not a coherent ideology but rather a manifestation of resentments, social envy and grievance politics - and ended attempted to appease Iran by reopening the Iran nuclear deal.

This has freed up Iran to pursue its' own interests and thus it has sponsored HAMAS, Hizballah, and other terrorist groups. This leading to the recent events in the Middle East as Iran seeks to split the Arabs from Israel and the USA by using the leverage point of Palestine.

For the USA then, in order to keep the Arab side together against Iran, it must straddle the line. Supporting Israel - its' most reliable ally in the region, but at the same time showing sympathy for the Palestinian people. Hence $100 million in humanitarian aid. This also an attempt to separate the Palestinian people from the more radical terrorist elements.

This there is a certain logic to Mr. Biden's strategy. Albeit a logic born of the necessities of compensating for the errors of his initial policy. Again, all this being further complicated by the neo-isolationism of the populists, especially on the GOP side, who view foreign policy as a crusade of democracy against dictatorship and who view foreign affairs as a burden on the American worker.

Thus the nexus between American foreign policy and its' domestic politics.

[Matthias345]

In this era of world crisis, we need hard-headed, sober realism that sees the challenges clearly and takes the actual, concrete steps necessary to meet them. We don’t need crusading liberalism.

What we really don’t need is high flying rhetoric that’s not matched by the degree of change needed.

[nightdrot]

@Matthias345 Don' disagree, but Mr. Biden's policy now is a concession to reality. It is, as I say, realpolitik. Support Israel militarily and balance that with humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. This thereby, if followed up with an effective diplomacy - to be sure, no means assured - dividing the Arabs from the Iranians as well as, to some extent,. dividing the Arabs from each other.

Mr. Biden's rhetoric, in any case, was hardly "high flying." Indeed, last night's speech was a babbling mishmash of policies and rhetoric that was not really seeming to be directed to any specific goal beyond a domestic American audience that is losing interest in Ukraine even as it is horrified, yet also divided in a different way, by the Israel/Palestine conflict.

In a populist era like the USA is experiencing, America's long term strategic interests are getting short shrift as the American domestic political scene grows more self-indulgent. Both Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are populists - there is less that divides them than their different party labels suggest. Yet, luckily, Mr. Trump's business background made him better suited to the conduct of foreign policy and thus the USA, de facto, got a realpolitik foreign policy from an otherwise populist Republican. Suffice to add that with Mr. Trump out of office, the GOP is now divided on Ukraine and much else.

Finally, I offer below my analysis of both the Ukraine and Gaza situations. You may find them helpful"

1) Why don't we put US troops in Ukraine? ↗

1-A) Should the United States keep funding Ukraine? What’s your opinion? ↗

2) What is Hamas/Iran's strategy? ↗

Two were listed MHO. One as a Bot Choice.

[Matthias345]

To be perfectly honest, I don't really like what's been happening in the world in recent years. Our great interest is the Indo-Pacific and deterring China. I feel we're wasting too much of our resources on Europe and the Middle East. Contrary to what Biden thinks, the US won't be able to wage war on 3 fronts.

[nightdrot]

@Matthias345 Well, first off, historically, the USA has managed a war on three fronts. Europe, North Africa and the Far East in World War II. Of course that took a massive mobilization effort, but it is within our material means.

Where you have a fairer point has been the ineptitude of US policy. You cannot ignore Europe. Give Russia a free hand and you will face Russia alone without allies - and THAT would be beyond our means when you throw China into the mix in the Far East.

Russia and China are NOT natural allies - and indeed even fought a brief border war when both were communist during the Cold War. It was this divide that President Nixon later sought, not without some success, to exploit. (The problem being that Nixon failed to recognize that during a period of ideological conflict, a realpolitik foreign policy is apt to be of limited success and set the stage for a period of retreat. Hence why the election of Mr. Reagan changed the course of things. Nixon was right - but at the wrong time. He would be better in an era such as we are now in.

The problem at the moment being that because we won an ideological war, our leaders and public tend to view all international conflict through an ideological prism. As the old saw has it, "when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."

This then producing either an overly ideological foreign policy - without strategy or priorities. (This delivered to us by President Bush Jr. Hence the "War on Terrorism" and the "Iraq War." This, in turn, generating a populist backlash and a neo-isolationism - as can now be seen in the GOP, see also Rep. Matt Gaetz.)

CONT.

[nightdrot]

In a non-ideological interregnum in history, these quotes ought to be the USA's guiding principles:

From Lord Palmerston: "We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow."

From Theodore Roosevelt: "World peace comes not from human kindness or moral restraint, but from balanced power; equilibriums of force restraining the selfish aims of nation-states."

From John Quincy Adams: "Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

Camillo di Cavour: "Astonish them with my ingratitude." (His response when asked by a reporter what he would do for the Italian liberals who helped him unite Italy.)

Victor Davis Hanson (paraphrasing Thucydides): "Power, not justice... is always the final arbiter of state relations; self-interest, not morality, is what guides and must guide the behavior of states. Appeals to mercy or hope for reprieve are misguided, not rooted in logic or a realistic understanding of human behavior."

Keeping always in mind that the American public - a peoples imbued in the ethics of a creedal nation - will always have a limited tolerance for realpolitik. Thus American politics in non-ideological eras, is always a balancing act between realpolitik and high moralism.

Thus, the current state of our foreign policy.

[madhatters4]

i think he generally supports both

he's not supporting hamas (the terrorists), he sending humanitarian aid to the soem 7million palestinians and those in Gaza. he has been critical of both leaderships. he has been supported of the civilians on both sides.

but i also don't see biden as some master of evil as many on this site seem

[exitseven]

Biden is not even master of his own bowels. m.media-amazon.com/.../...0_SY300_QL70_FMwebp_.jpg

[madhatters4]

sure.

[Daniela1982]

Oh for fuck sake! Why doesn't this dipshit spend money on our own problems and let everyone else take care of their own shit. I didn't see anyone come around with a spare tit when we needed a hand. I don't see any of the turkey shits in Congress worry about rising inflation or the high costs of everything. They get paid no matter what, and vote themselves in pay raises they don't need. I say vote them all out. We couldn't do any worse without these thieves.

Congressional dinner and they left a $ trillion dollar tip.

People mooning the Presidential Train

[Masterodd]

Right on!

[exitseven]

I did not know Biden had his own choo choo. I guess he has said he took Amtrak everry day for 30 years and the conductor used to let him drive the train. I suppose he named his train Amtrack One.

[Daniela1982]

If he was allowed to operate one, it was the one that derailed.
https://youtu.be/8iohKC5jJWY?si=dhvazYOrLREcy4D4

[WindAtMyBack]

He already has the Jewish vote. Jews are notoriously liberal. They are one of the most liberal demographics out there. Biden doesn't need to do a damn thing to get their votes.

I've never understood why Republicans are supposedly strong supporters of Israel. It makes no damn sense. I suppose it's the lesser of the evils.

The US needs to stop supporting Israel, completely. That doesn't mean supporting Palestinians. It means they should be completely neutral. Support of Israel has been nothing but trouble. The wars between Israel and various neighbors have been going on my entire life. During the Vietnam War, it was on the news every day. Fighting between Israel and their neighbors was on the news almost as much. The Vietnam War ended almost 50 years ago. The fighting between Israel and it's neighbors has been nearly non-stop this entire time. It just goes on and on and on.

Let them fight it out and be done with it. See what's left after the smoke clears. Continuing to feed the flames is nothing but trouble, for Israel, their neighbors, and the US. Just stop it.

[Tamera952]

No, how silly. He already has the Jewish votes. They’re on board no matter what. Just like the rest of civilized democracy-appreciating Americans. Liberals are not in large numbers supporting terrorists. The 100 million is for the Palestinian people, who by all accounts really need the help.

[exitseven]

All the people who came out in support of Hamas were not ex Marines

[DubiousIntentions]

After watching the news tonight, he is talking $Billions for Ukraine, Israel, and Palestine. When is Biden going to stop giving money to Ukraine oligarchs?

[msc545]

Actually he's giving money to Ukraine Oligarches so that they can in turn give it to the US weapons makers exchange for weapons that sort of work but don't cost as nearly as much to make as they are sold for. So everybody accept the taxpayers profits.

[exitseven]

The check has already cleared Hunter's shell corp so Joe is bought and paid for.

[msc545]

That is a really ignorant comment. Do better.

[DubiousIntentions]

@msc545 "Except" the taxpayers.

[msc545]

You are right. I keep trying to use voice to text on the app for my phone and it winds up doing things like this. Embarrassing.

[exitseven]

@msc545 What did I say that was not true?

[msc545]

You talk about the "check" as if you had seen it. There was no check.

[RealMarek]

We just can’t stay on the sidelines for this one, can we?

[exitseven]

the check from Iran has already made its way into Hunters shell corporation , He has to come across.

[RealMarek]

The USG looking more and more like organized crime

[rigmarole]

He supports Red Castle... Not Green Castle...

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1715156491970265246?t=lGgcYsaXwBexPfRqJQ749g&s=19

[exitseven]

He likes White Castle the best. upload.wikimedia.org/.../..._Castle_Building_8.jpg

[rigmarole]

rothen Schild meaning "to the red shield"

[rigmarole]

[rigmarole]

Who does the "Red Shield" defend? The "Red Castle". Who do the Rothschild defend? Hesse-Kassel... You know, Hesse as in the German word that comes from Proto-Indo-European *ḱād-, Proto-Indo-European *-os, and later Proto-Germanic *hataz meaning to "Hate".

Mayer Amschel Rothchild became powerful because of his special relationship with Prince William the 9th of Hesse-Kassel. Mayer Amschel Rothchild was Prince William's Court Jew (money manager/money lender).



Hesse-Kassel are the same Hessian that sent mercenaries to America on the side of the British to rape, murder, and plunder American homesteads during the Revolutionary War.

[rigmarole]

Who do imagine lords over the castle of hate?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E

[rigmarole]

When you take all the verses in Scripture as a whole, you begin to see a malevolent spiritual being who salivates in searing hatred against humanity. After this dazzling creature was cast from the halls of heaven, God knelt down in the dust of the earth to craft a being to rule over and defeat him. As Satan stood from a distance, he watched with perfect hate that God would design such a feeble creature to be the one that rules him. The purest form of disgust washed over him as God imprinted His glorious image upon the soul of man. Blind fury consumed him as God breathed His life-giving breath into Adam’s lungs. Jealousy gripped the fallen spirit's heart as man and woman, embodied creatures with an immaterial soul, communed in paradise with their God. A past time the cursed angel once enjoyed.

[rigmarole]

Rotenburg literately means Red Castle... Hesse-Rotenburg is a former German landgraviate created from the landgraviate of Hesse-Kassel in 1627. Get it now?

[FunkyMonkee]

He sure is free with our tax money! Sure wish he'd support US as much as he supports Mexico, Ukraine, China, hamas, the taliban and Palestine!
Playing both sides is how the rich get richer. One side's gonna win so, no matter which it is, they still get rich from it!
Joey's motto: America last!! As long as they keep giving me that tax money to blow, I couldn't care less about them!!

[Avicenna]

Any money that goes to us doesn’t end up in part in the Biden Crime Fsmily‘s Shell Accounts like the money sent to corrupt overseas destinations like the one you mentioned.

[provokeesmokee]

It's not that simple.

Palestinian innocents are being affected alongside innocent Israelis.

Both civilian populations need support and help.

That's not "playing both sides". That's being realistic about this bloody war.

And yes, he's playing politics for votes. What the fuck do you think modern US politics is about? It isn't about making your country better, it's about winning the next election. You'll made it that with your media consumption culture.

[Paris13]

Joe Cannot Wipe His Butt without the Left Who Has Had a Hand in His Pooopy Presidency. xxoo

[AviatorTom]

The Palestinian people are not terrorists. They are average everyday people, much like you and me. In their midst lives Hamas, a terrorist organization, whose stated main goal is the eradication of Jews and the state of Israel.

Helping people in need is something that every country should do. The people of Gaza need support, aid. If that buys votes for Jumpin' Joe, more power to him. It's the right thing to do.

[TonyMetal___86]

Palestinians aren't terrorists, maybe the group of hamas are but the way i'm seeing things is that the israeli army is committing terrorism above any imagination...
There are rules for wars and any army must respect these rules...
Too much brutality and killing innocent lives...
Fight the ones who are fighting you and keep the innocent people out of it as much as you can...

[Avicenna]

„Msybe Hamas are terrorists“? What alternate universe do you live in?
The IDF goes out if it’s way to avoid killing the civilians that Hanas illegally used as human shields

[TonyMetal___86]

@Avicenna bro i'm living in the real universe where i can see everything for real, unlike you, where do you live? What kind of news are you watching?

I'm not with hamas or any other militia, i'm a man of peace and i'm neutral but i say what i see cause i ain't going to take a side with any of them, the reality os that both sides are committing horrible crimes and are killing innocent people and bringing pain to a lots of kids and families who have nothing to do with this war...

The israeli army are committing massacres and aren't respecting the international laws of war, hamas committed a massacre on the 1st day and now what? Both are worst in than each other in my eyes!

For example: the IDF tells the people to evacuate gaza and when the people started to leave, they hit them with a missile, if you see the dead kids, women and elders, especially the kids, you can't hold the tears in your eyes, they did what you wanted them to do, why have you attacked them with a missile? Many more crimes of war there is, when the raid of hamas started, i felt sad for all the civilians who were dead, even though my country is enemies with israel and a lot of people were happy to see them killing innocent people, i was just furious and sad and saw them like ISIS because these people wether they are jews, israelis or whatever they are, they are innocent people, they haven't done anything wrong, did not cause harm or danger on anyone, how come can you kill them just like bugs without any sense of humanity!

Now the IDF is doing the same and even more than what hamas have done, even if they take the people as hostages, an elite army would save the hostages and punish the criminals, not bomb everyone... etc

[Avicenna]

Massacres? Only Hanas has done that. Not Israel.
There has already been enough Hamas propaganda. Hamas forced people to stay in the northern part of Gaza and uses mosques, hospitals, schools and residential buildings to store weapons and ammo as well as to shoot off rockets.

[TonyMetal___86]

@Avicenna don't be blinded, try to see the whole picture and don't be deaf by listening to only one side, hear everyone than make your judgement...

By the way, you can't make thousands of people leave their city in just 24 hours, yesterday they attacked a church where there was 400 refugees, kids and women, unarmed and causing no danger at all, no hamas members were there, still they have attacked the church, why?

They want to make hamas pay the price for what they have done right? What does the innocent civilians have to do with this?

When parties go to war and they make mistakes, they always try to make excuse for their wrong actions or try to blame the other side for it...

That's the brutality of war, a lot of innocent lives are wasted because of others who are blood thirsty for terrorism and war...

In this war, i just can't believe the brutality and how much these people lack of humanity and compassion, god is seeing everything and each criminal who took innocent lives on purpose will burn in hell...

I wish that this war stops and that both sides can find a peacefull solution for their long conflicts...

[Avicenna]

Israel does not target civilians. Israel did not attack a church.

Hamas not only targets Israeli civilians, they also target Palestinian civilians!

[whirled_up_girl]

Well considering half of the population in Gaza is under the age of 18 and therefore couldn’t possibly voted for Hamas 17 years ago I would say they are innocent civilians and humanitarian aid is the right thing to do.

[Sparkie460]

He should keep the money here and help our homeless people and military veterans

[msc545]

Pandering to both sides. If he does it right, it will result in another giveaway to the US weapons industry just like Ukraine provides.

[Avicenna]

Biden may say he supports Israel, but he’s protecting Hamas by preventing Israel from cleaning the terrorists out

[jshm2]

Don't be daft. That 100 million will go straight into Israeli pockets.

[Avicenna]

Sure. Hamas is going to give Israelis 100 million. Don’t be daft- your heroes in Hamas are corrupt and appropriate any humanitarian aid.

[Fuentes]

Biden isn't going to continue into another election he is done, time for him to pack his bags and get into a hospice because his dementia will soon be worse.

[NYCQuestions1976]

Hypocrisy at its finest, and I'm not surprised.

[Jennz6]

We need a new president

[Anonymous]

he sent 100M for israel to clean Gaza and move in.

Gaza people have moved to south.

[Masterodd]

Sounds like it.

[abc3643]

Google "False Dichotomy".

[Jamie05rhs]

Exactly.