Should we just let the EU take over America’s shitshow?

[OddBeMe]

I have few demands: we keep our goddamn fridges and air conditioners. And ice cubes!

Fck no libtard!

Ehh, maybe America can get better

What makes you think the EU wants us?

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I thought this might pick up your Monday. The EU does have some solid economic stats.

[Pohjolan]

As if EU didn't have enough problems already as it is...

[OddBeMe]

Amera-xit!

But you just got here?

[NathanDavis]

we'll need these though...

not the cubes

[OddBeMe]

Damn straight. “Senor waitero, go getto more ice, may we?

[Sevenpointfive]

let me put it this way. something's gotta change

[monorprise]

how about we just go out separate ways and see who gets the best results.

[OddBeMe]

@monorprise agreed. Red states vs blue states. Y’all be calling us for money like drunk uncle.

[Sevenpointfive]

with no one to fight the liberals/dems would cannabalize each other

[OddBeMe]

What about the vegans? Can we eat them?

[Sevenpointfive]

vegans are fair game

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. County vs. county. Fuck state vs. state. If those maps were painted by county, all you’d see is blue sprinkles across a red landscape.

Then we’ll see how demotwats do.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust fck states rights?

Yeah voting should be one person one vote. Counties and cities have majority of people and majority Dem. So still, you rural fcks would be begging for cash from the metropolitan cities.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe It is one person one vote. What you don’t like is rural votes count more than urban. You don’t like it? Go out to the country. Stop watering down your voting power with bodies in the city. Learn how to survive without urban conveniences.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust or…I can stay and we liberals storm the Capitol if Trump wins next year to stop his valid election win.

But yes, rural votes get twice as much. These days, that’s wrong. But the Electoral College needs to go.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. Wrong is being told what to do in your own backyard by people from afar. That’s what the Revolutionary war was about. Something I doubt you have pedigree in.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust more than you. If we didn’t revolt for the rich taxpayers slavery may have ended 30 years sooner. And we’d probably have ended up like Canada.

[love_conquers_lust]

Your ancestors fought in the US Revolutionary War?

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust no idea. I have no narcissistic need to dna my ancestors.

[OddBeMe]

And when I commit murder I’m not on the grid.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe So you don’t have pedigree.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust so to be American their ancestors have to have fought the Rev war? How about the actual Rev war in 1812? Or Americans civil war?

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. All of which my ancestors fought in sans the “war” of 1812. Explain to me what pedigree means to you.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust so every war except the one that actually mattered. Jk.

Pedigree on a basic level could refer to someone’s experience or education. The way I “feel” you used it is a flow chart of “types” leading back to origin.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe Pedigree is lineage. It’s not something you acquire by reading a book.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust words have different usages. One of them is Pedigree: the history and background of someone or something, especially as a sign of quality, status, or legitimacy.

Totally attainable.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. Reading a bullet point under a main definition is not a standalone definition. You’ve bastardized the meaning of the word.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust no that’s the different usages dumbass. Learn how to use a dictionary.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. You are still lost.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust least I can use a dictionary.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe Can, but don’t succeed in using it properly. You are lost in more way than one.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust tell then, because this is a problem with America. We can’t agree on facts.

You actually think the lists below the definitions of a word are a subset that doesn’t mean anything? They just list that shit for nothing?

[Drewtate]

Let the Germans win? Set up a fifth reich with America as a member state?

[OddBeMe]

Germany is more anti Nazi than the U. S. Hell we just had a Nazi president. “Stand down and stand by.”

[Drewtate]

There's a nazi undercurrent in Germany and antisemitic. It's just low key.

[OddBeMe]

I’m seeing that more everywhere in these protesters of this Israeli war. I am not supportive of those fcks.

[Drewtate]

You see what the Germans go through during their education, forced to relive ww2 over and over in a form of mental abuse do naturally a few or more might think to themselves maybe the nazis were right.

[OddBeMe]

Well heah, and their anti free speech in this area is inducing it. I don’t know the ends and in ours of german politics. How powerful are the Identitarians I read about? Putin is supportive, I read.

[Sargentcaptain]

I remember a time when Americans detested communism.

[love_conquers_lust]

Americans hate other Americans is a saying.

[OddBeMe]

If you think the EU is communism then why does their GDP rival ours?

[Sargentcaptain]

> rival

They lose to the tune of 6 trillion dollars.

And when you break it down by states of the respective unions, it gets even more embarrasing.

en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP
en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

The Soviets were a closer match than these lips wristed twigs. Not to mention, the US leads the world in economy, technological advancements, medical science, space exploration, and fuck it, without the US army stations in EU and the political support from the US, EU wouldn't exist and would get massacred by insert-dictator-name-here sooner than you could say Belgian military prowess.

[OddBeMe]

I’m not really disputing those facts, tho the EU doesn’t include every European state and does some non euro states.

But funny…looking at your America gdp map…where are the Red State’s money? You conservative fcks are leeching on us liberals like crazy.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe You mean how the Feds print money and lend a disproportionate amount of it to liberals? There’s a reason why city living is expensive. I found cities to be fun, but quite anticlimactic in some aspects. City boys are better at talking than walking. Maybe if you didn’t procreate like jack rabbits, the Feds wouldn’t have to keep siphoning off farmers subsidizing liberal lifestyles.

You guys are entertaining and enrich our lives. Dance monkeys dancing for their dollar.

You keep running your mouth and I’m going to keep undercutting your points. I was raised a suburbanite, have commuted to urban jobs, and live in the country now. I’ve seen a number of sides. Urbanites are good at running their mouths. They don’t have to struggle to survive as long as the lights stay on and the faucet keeps flowing.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust I’m hearing a lot of blustering but still seeing the gdp of cities and blue states going to welfare of rural red America.

And I’m fine with it. I just hate when you fcks bite the hands that feed you.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. Bite the hand that feeds you?

You are literally fed by farmers. They don’t have to sell you a thing. You are one week away from chaos and mayhem at any point in time if farmers so will it.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust What farmers? You mean Dole? Nabisco?

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe Those are manufacturers and refiners, you idiot.

protecttheharvest.com/.../

You really need to stfu.

[genericname85]

as if the EU was a souvereign entity outside the controll of USA via NATO xD the entire western world is turning into a libtard shit show.

[OddBeMe]

I mean it was joke but you’re not wrong. Europe is heavily dependent on the US, mostly for our military bases. But if we cut back on that we’ll have a worldwide arms race and suddenly the EU doesn’t take our calls.

[genericname85]

we have an worldwird arms race currently. so usa is not doing anything to stop that. not saying they should if they could but since they can't, that's not really a relevant idea anyway.

[OddBeMe]

Who’s arming themselves? You know what worldwide means, right? Every country arming brought about the world wars. I don’t like being the worlds police and I think the UN could be a good replacement.

[genericname85]

USA, Russia, china, most of Europe, most of the middle east. Do you need more to call it world wide?

[OddBeMe]

Europe is not “arming”, any more than usual. They certainly have no armies of any real importance. Which is why they’re defense budget is a quarter of ours.

[genericname85]

i mean germany alone used the ukraine war as an excuse to spent 100 billion in military stuff...

[genericname85]

that is far beyond the "usual".

[OddBeMe]

I don’t know German defense spending. But that money was Germany investing in an anti-Putin plan with a pretty good chance at winning. What if they get a EU friendly Russian dictator? Better.

[genericname85]

It doesn't matter what you decide to call it. Fact is that there is increased military spending and an arms race going on between the eastern and western world. And if it's "anti Putin" that exactly fits that idea of west vs. East arms race

[OddBeMe]

Well I hope not. That’s never ended well. More guns=more gun deaths.

[noohair]

Fusk the EU. They want us to pay for all their wars. I would be sending them a bill for everything and if they did not pay, I would not send them a paper clip.

[OddBeMe]

So we pack up our military and let each country build up their own armies?

[noohair]

Yes. Europe will be Europe and we can't change that. You can't change another person, you can only change yourself. That applies to Europeans. Every border in Europe was a result of war. There are rich Europeans rely on the US to settle their differences and pay for it. I would like that money to be spent on our own border. In the last 3 years over 7 million people crossed the border and we are borrowing money to feed and shelter them. If the US if the lifeboat of democracy, if you take too many people in, it will sink.

[OddBeMe]

We haven’t had WW3 because countries haven’t had to have armies and are forced to trade with each other.

Now populism is back and it’s resulted in Brexit and causing an arms race. Trump is Hitler.

[noohair]

I used to consider your posts as probing. But I can tell by your response that you are totally ignorant. There is no comparison between Hitler and his government with anything else in the entire history of the world. The Nazis created a state run murder organization and put out bids for orders for gas poison and ovens to burn bodies. Mr. Trump is a private citizen and you are comparing him to what Hitler did to the world. Really? Besides the 6 million Jews murdered, the SS murdered an additional 6 million non Jewish humans. All consider inferior. Just inferior. You can call Donald Trump a thin skilled egomaniac assho! e that does not listen to advice. He is vain and self absorbed. Name a politician that is not self absorbed. They all have one job, get reelected. And if they happen to get anything done, it is spending money we don't have. There are world leaders as evil as Hitler, but they fall short in the Industrial murder category. The problem is not populism; it is the professional political overseers that create conflict and tribalism as a tool to control their populations. It is to cause a distraction as they plunder their respective countries treasuries. I am a Capitalist. But capitalism has been distorted to steal and make politicians wealthy. I am not here to teach you history for free. But I find it sad then people consume propaganda and regurgitate it out without even realizing how idiotic and ignorant it makes them sound.

[OddBeMe]

Thanks for overreacting dipshit.

Merely saying you populist fucks are replaying the 30s around the world.

[noohair]

Yes, the 1930's seem to be replaying around the world. And I am confident that nothing I say will penetrate your thick skull. So I actually looked up Populism and found this: a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups. What are we seeing today, elites running the world causing inflation and war destroying the “Ordinary” people? When has human society learned from their mistakes? History is fraught with people that think they are smarter than their predecessors to make unworkable economic and political systems work. Human nature will always win out. And I noticed that you have no comment about your moronic comparison of Hitler to Trump. Let me hear your can logical and factual justification of your comparison.

And my issue is with morons that have what they think is a superior insight because they bought education that is not knowledge. Every human has equal value. Being smart and being educated are different. If you think populism is bad then you consider yourself to be one of those effete elites. Good luck with that.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. Most wars start because of communication break down.

History repeats itself, but it also doesn’t. This time around we have mass global communication, you’re using it right now.

What I find to be utter bull shit is people aren’t examining just what happened in Germany that caused the Nazis to rise. The media and Leftists don’t want to talk about that because they fear they are in part responsible…because they are. That…includes the Jews as well, they absolutely refuse to believe those Jews had a hand in bringing about their own demise.

Crying about diversity is setting up humanity for failure. There’s basically two skin tones in this world, fair and dark, and everything else in between. There’s going to be an explosion in diversity in the future. We are struggling to get along with only two colors. You’re setting up humanity for failure by trying to get everyone to blend together. You need to learn that boundaries are important. Borders are important. Saying no is important.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust arguable. There was no communications break down in the 20th Century.
WW1: all the leaders were literally related to each.
WW2: Populist surge brings in Hitler who wrote perpetual war is the only way forward.

[OddBeMe]

@noohair “they bought education that is not knowledge, they’re not better”… I would say, it’s open to everyone and available. You just need willpower. And then stats show you’re better off.

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust “You’re setting up humanity for failure by trying to get everyone to blend together.” Why?

[jshm2]

No. Make America Great Again, by giving it back to the people who made it great - Britain.

[exitseven]

The EU will not spend a dime to help Ukrainen They expect the US to pay for everything

[OddBeMe]

They’ve been spending a ton and taking Ukrainian refugees. Which is why we’re not hearing too much about a refugee crisis like in Syria.

[exitseven]

we have our own refugee crisis already. Ten million and counting.

[OddBeMe]

At least you’re counting the migrants as refugees now. Fleeing dangerous cartels.

[exitseven]

If they did not come in through the front door you can call them whatever you want but they are still illegal aliens and are breaking the law.

[OddBeMe]

Takes money to come in through the front door.

[exitseven]

Yes, they can sneak in the back door and score big on the taxpayer;s dime.

[OddBeMe]

Score big how? They’re constantly working.

[exitseven]

They are all on welfare, living in $200/. day hotels. They have been there about two weeks. Already here have been 2 armed robberies in the area.

[OddBeMe]

Please provide proof of that dumbass claim.

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe This is just one instance.
www.cbsnews.com/.../

5 miles from where I live there are 3 hotels near the highway. They have been taken over by illegal aliens. The state gave them 1 year contracts for renting the 3 hotels. They get 3 meals a day and linen service. Free healthcare and the already stained school system has to figure out what to do with 80 people that cannot understand a word of English.
They have not been here for 3 weeks and there have already been 2 armed robberies at local businesses.

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe. Too bad they didn’t constantly work to fix their own cartel problem. Too bad they birthed the single mother hellspawn running these cartels. Too bad they can’t use that money to fix their own problems

[OddBeMe]

@love_conquers_lust why don’t we work to fix our drug problems supplying demand to the cartels and ruining their lives?

[love_conquers_lust]

@OddBeMe Everyone stays out of others backyards and fix their own problems. Now you’re thinking. And for good measure, reinforce the wall which defines said backyards.

[exitseven]

@love_conquers_lust I could be on board with that one.

[goaded]

Run the air conditioning off solar power and there's no problem!

[OddBeMe]

Damn you Europeans! And where’s my ice?

[OddBeMe]

I either forget to give you mho or I’m trying to “woo” right wingers to be friendly to my posts. So consider yourself my always mho.

[goaded]

No worries. It's not like points mean prizes or anything.

[Anonymous]

No, but the EU deadbeats can take over funding Ukraine.

[OddBeMe]

They do way more than us. As they should. Proximity

[msc545]

The US cannot get much worse.

[Juxtapose]

The E. U sucks, no thanks.

[monorprise]

Never underestimate the power to leave, we might have lost that right to Lincoln's war of imperial domination but if we can reclaim that right by joining the EU instead no matter whatever else it cost it will be worth it. For that cost will be temporary

[OddBeMe]

The EU as a whole has a GDP comparable to the US; a happiness index, education levels and social mobility that vastly surpasses the US.

[Juxtapose]

Those indexes are biased and full of shit. Also centralizing power is bad.

[OddBeMe]

Biased how? They got everyone to lie except Americans?

(Puts out cigarette) Ok, monsieur we all viva le France and how happy we are to make Americans look bad.

Yeah yeah, and we makes the EU look happier than we really are, yeah? And we fool those stupid Americans!

(European laughter)

Fade Out.
And scene.

[Juxtapose]

Abortion access is part of the happiness index. Left leaning bias.

[OddBeMe]

Fuck you talking about? Happiness index is literally “are you happy?”

If they happen to all live in “leftist societies” that’s kinda the point.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah they are so happy they don't even know if they are male or female xD

No, it's biased and a lot more than asking if people are happy.

[OddBeMe]

I would ask an actual pollster the details. It’s quite complex who they figure out the least biased way to conduct polling. But multiple polls usually indicate a trend

[DarkLegacy]

I would prefer anything to America

[Anonymous]

Sure why not then we will all brexit.

[Snakeyes7]

That is such an obvious downgrade.

[gorydetails]

you can move.

[Nemesis2k7]

Yawn