Are Christians being persecuted in Islamic countries?

[Anonymous]

[RoseySarah]

Definitely how ever the media does not want to report it and they are highly advised to not go near those counties if Americans are any thing other then Muslim or atheist.

That actually looks like an old list! China is more expensive to Christians these days and will more report them.

Those 2 sides probably need to be switched.

Also turkey and several other Greek Muslim counties.

A friend lost her life got rapped and tortured just trying to snuggle a piece for a printing press for making bibles.

The horror they out her through!

I cried for a week after hearing she did not deserve any of it!

[Asker]

@roseysarah Rosey, I’m more scared of my situation now.

[bingbongbangbung]

Expensive? Don't you mean expendable? China doesn't really go after religious people if you're a foreigner and don't try to prostelyze. But if you're a local Chinese and/or you try prostelyzing, then expect to be persecuted (excluding those following Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, and various Chinese folk religions ofc). For the Uyghurs and Tibetans, the CCP doesn't go after them because of their faith; it's actually cause they refuse to assimilate to the Han Chinese and/or bow down to them.

[RoseySarah]

What happened? What changed? Here is a big hug 🤗 sorry your worried

[bingbongbangbung]

Also while I do express my condolences, she should've known that Islamic countries don't allow prostelyzing from infidels. As the saying goes "When in Rome, do as the Romans do", so since she failed to follow their laws and customs, she suffered the consequences. Typically authoritarian regimes are terrible at enforcing laws unless it's convenient or they're meant to directly benefit the government, but since she stood out they went after her. Ok maybe not necessarily the authorities, but civilian vigilantes will which is sadly a common problem in Islamic countries.

[RoseySarah]

@bingbongbangbung no idea spell check changed what ever I wrote.
True with china I was thinking visitors and missionary not local.

[RoseySarah]

Well you know drinking and smoking will kill you but almost all Americans do one or the other!
Along with drugs

Same thing 🤣

[Asker]

@roseysarah hugs sweetheart 🧕

[Asker]

@roseysarah we’ll talk later honey

[ManOnFire]

@roseysarah Wow, that really bothers me about the girl who was raped and tortured.

[Asker]

@ManOnFire my thoughts exactly

[RoseySarah]

Simply it's never safe for a Christian to go to Muslim countries Thier laws make it clear your pretty much dead being an infidel and to kill you!

[Asker]

@roseysarah I am safe so don’t worry about me honey 🧕

[ManOnFire]

@jennz6 Are you living in the Middle East right now?

[Asker]

@ManOnFire I am in the Mediterranean Sea on an Aircraft Carrier

[7Phoenix7]

@ManOnFire me too wow

[Asker]

@7Phoenix7 you are on a ship 🚢 too?

[ManOnFire]

@7Phoenix7 I just can't make sense of rape and torture like that. Not that I'm saying rape EVER makes sense, but I'm saying rape without any kind of true sexual desire, just to hurt someone else is rooted in a deep hate and wickedness. Rape that happens because the guy wanted someone sexually at least has a basic animal reason, it's still evil, but you can link the two together. Raping someone with zero connection or attraction and just to hurt them is beyond me.

[love_conquers_lust]

@ManOnFire Did you rape someone?

[Asker]

@love_conquers_lust
@manonfire you rapped women?

[ManOnFire]

@Jennz6 I've never raped anybody and never would. I'm talking about how 'basic' rape - if you will - is still rooted in animal lust that is at least related to some kind of sexual desire, even if it's down right wrong. Compared to just raping somebody out of hate and trying to punish or torture them with it.

[love_conquers_lust]

@ManOnFire So you want to rape someone?

[love_conquers_lust]

@jennz6 Take note of how @ManOnFire passive aggressively replied, Jenn. He specifically addressed you and avoided me. I already know he’s an anti-white male, black racist. He also has a fetish for fair complexioned women while readily calling them racist. I wanted to know if he was a closet rapist as well. He’s in the same wheelhouse as guys like AmeerX, VegasRunner, CoachTanthony, Exterminatoire, SUMAIREBRAHIM, Bklynbadboy12, pretty much any devout Muslim, and others of the like. I’d be wary of anything that comes out of his mouth, a groomer. He’s also not a true Christian, a fraud.

We’ll see if he reports this.

[ManOnFire]

@love_conquers_lust I am going to both report and block you after this, and send a direct complaint to the admins about you, as I'm also aware of you doing this before. I ignored you the first time because you tried to bait me, which I don't go for. I'm not a true Christian, but you just bore false witness against me. Hmmmm.

[ManOnFire]

@roseysarah Interesting that you're a mod and would let it slide that he accuses me of rape.

[Asker]

@7phoenix7 yes I am on a ship 🚢

[BrookeS]

Yes we are

[Asker]

@brookes you too?

[BrookeS]

Im from Canada and even here im afraid to say im christian

[Asker]

@BrookeS I am so sorry Sweetheart 💕

[BrookeS]

Thats ok

[Asker]

@BrookeS you know I love 💕 you?

[BrookeS]

Yes baby

[ManOnFire]

@jennz6 Hey, follow me back? I want to tell you something in DM.

[ManOnFire]

@jennz6 Okay it still won't let me message you, tty to message me first.

[Lliam]

Since when are North Korea, India and China Islamic countries?

I know for a fact that Christians were never persecuted in Syria or Palestine. I doubt if they are persecuted in Libya or Jordan.

"Christians have been resident in Iran since biblical times, and the faith remains the second-largest non-Muslim minority religion in the country. Christians are thought to number around 1 million Christians, including some 21,380 Catholics, although accurate figures are impossible to obtain.

"Some denominations are recognized by the Iranian constitution such as the Chaldean and the Armenian denominations. These denominations have certain rights such as freedom to worship within their own churches but not in Iran’s national language Farsi."

I believe conversion to Christianity is illegal.
I haven't heard anything about visitors being persecuted for being Christian unless they engage in attempts to convert Iranians.

I don't know that much about other Islamic countries.

[Anonymous]

Yeah most Muslims will never admit it despite it being in the Quran and Hadiths, and even their Fatwas (legal rulings by scholars). They're actually commanded by their prophet to kill, rape, loot, convert, and/or enslave the infidels. One of their ultimate goals beside following their prophet and worshipping Allah is to establish a global caliphate. Honestly, aside from those religions practiced by cannibalistic tribes in Africa and Asia, those polytheistic faiths by the Inca/Aztec/Mayans, or straight up evil cults like Scientology, Islam is the worst religion. You have to be very brainwashed to be able to pull off the mental gymnastics required to defend a religion that seeks to be totaliatarian and backwards.

[Opinion Owner]

And before any Muslim gets triggered, no I don't care if you bring up excuses like: you need to know Arabic, you need to consult a scholar, you need to understand the context, etc. Just like with the Bible and Torah, if the Quran is truly from God, is perfect and universal, and easy to understand by anyone, then all those goal posts you're shifting to are completely useless. But of course they're needed because we all know that there's no proof beyond a reasonable doubt via scientific, historic, mathematical, and philosophical evidence that Islam is true.

[KralArthur]

Then use your noodle and answer me. How was the universe 🌌 created? By itself? First answer me this question 🙋 I'm not a scholar but even the wisest can't make an old buffoon believe that his hearsays are baseless. You have no right to condemn and deny the prophet and the Quran and the religion Islam. Islam doesn't order rape, robbery and killing. Islam only orders what's good and prohibits the evil deeds.

[Asker]

@KralArthur GOD created everything

[Opinion Owner]

@KralArthur more deflections and lack of evidence, blocked

[Opinion Owner]

Not to disrespect your beliefs, but until there's the evidence that meets the burden of proof to make me believe, I will remain agnostic about religion.

[Opinion Owner]

@jennz6* not replying to the Mootard anymore

[Asker]

@kostaskouvalis Amen 🙏

[Asker]

Who’s Mootard?

[KralArthur]

He calls me mootard

[exitseven]

Yes, there is an anti-Christian movement in all these countries. After they kill all the Jews they are already planning on killing al the Christians.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mvQmhMkXLBg

[Asker]

It’s scary because I was planning to visit Pakistan 🇵🇰 but I don’t want to be murdered.

[exitseven]

If you are afraid to visit, what would it be lik eto live there? It is probably going to get worse too.

[bingbongbangbung]

Why anybody would wanna visit North Korea or Iran besides doing it for clout or to visit family is beyond me

[Asker]

I’m not sure if I still want to go

[exitseven]

I am pretty sure I want to see the Grand Canyon before I see Pakistan.

[Asker]

Me too lol

[exitseven]

😊😊😊😊

[sage2021]

@exitseven
Why all of this? Seriously, why? We go from a normal country when Trump was President to all of these wars and fighting and now killing Christians. Where are they going to find them?
Hey, I believe what the bible says and these people think they have it made here on earth with all their killing. Truth is, this is a test being here on earth to see what kind of person you are and how you treat other people. So, when these killers go straight to hell, and they will, it will be too late to pull that 🔥 firey pitchfork out of their rubs.
This is just practice here in these days. So far, I've done very well 🙂.
I do have to wonder where mister wonderful with the ladies went when he died (boyfriend). I just don't know. It's half and half. I was there when he accepted Jesus Christ as his personal savior, we he prayed every night for my health to get better. So, I don't know 🤷🏼‍♀️

[sage2021]

@Jennz6
What did you do? Stand in front of a big map that was on a table, close your eyes tight, then point to a place somewhere on the map and you landed on Pakistan? Don't they kill Christian's?

[Asker]

@sage2021 No, I’m just meeting a lot of non American people here

[DJB72]

I've got friends working as missionaries in a few of the islamic nations. There's definitely a high incedence of persecution including state sponsored beatings and executions the media refuses to cover in places like Pakistan and Myanmar. Foreigners are reasonably safe, but locals who convert to Christianity are likely to be targeted. Homes are burned, families disown and cut off members who leave Islam and if they refuse to go back to islam these people following the "peaceful" religion are ok with cutting the heads off converts to Christ.

But Western countries media sources are uncomfortable pointing it out as the numbers of Muslim immigrants are growing fast...

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Yes, a lot!

And, there's no media coverage around to expose it and report it.

Anti-Christian governments back these atrocities.

Journalists are not allowed in such areas.

[Asker]

So true

[Matadorius]

Since you call Turkey a Muslim Greek and put Turkey in the same category with other Middle Eastern Arab countries, it is obvious that you have never stepped foot in either Turkey or the Middle East. But I understand that, unfortunately, due to the current political administration, such an understanding has emerged in the West. Let me just say this: Turkey is the most complex, most diverse and most unique country in the region, both ethnically, culturally and geographically. You understand this difference much better, especially when you go to Middle Eastern countries or listen to immigrants coming from there. For Middle Eastern countries, Turkey is a paradise because it is both a Muslim-majority and secular country, meaning both in one.

[Matadorius]

@RoseySarah

[ManOnFire]

Christians have always been persecuted in Islamic countries. I have no issues with Muslims and have Muslim friends, but they are going to have issues with me if I go to their countries. They even persecute their own who convert to Christianity, that's why you have large numbers of Iranians having to go underground after converting, or leave the country altogether.

[Drewtate]

Yes. From coptic christians in Egypt, to christians in eithiopia and Somalia. To christians in Nigeria. Pakistan too. You are nor allowed to be non-muslim in these countries

[AnusDestroyer3169]

No christians in muslim countries just likes to act victims and they always act like "You hate me because I am christian" despite the fact that conflicts caused between them and locals has nothing to do with religion most of the time.

[goaded]

India? Really? 2.4% of the population is Christian, the only "persecution" seems to be that many states have outlawed proselytizing.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/12/8-key-findings-about-christians-in-india/

[KostasKouvalis]

Some of them, but I don't believe that screenshot. Eritrea has a Christian majority and Azerbaijan is atheist, and there's TONS of Christians in India, I've never heard of anyone persecuting them. Nigeria is also majority Christian. Clearly some of these are talking about persecution by the government and others about persecution by terrorists

[sage2021]

Where is it safe to say you are a Christian anymore?

[Asker]

I’m not sure if I have the answers

[sage2021]

@Jennz6
Honey, please don't go to any other countries at this time. There can be no good reason to.
Stay close to your protect ion, your USS American 🇺🇸 ship. They will protect you! Don't invite trouble into your life!!! You know things are bad right now all over! Why put yourself at risk? Why do you want to go to that other country anyway? None of why you want to go there is worth risking your life. Find stuff to occupy your time on the ship. The guys can help you cause they know about electronics and stuff.
You've come a long way this year from where you were. Why would you want to blow it? Pub intended.

[Asker]

I’m a Christian and I can say it here

[sage2021]

Jennz6
Be cautious though. The walls have ears and you never know who could hear you. I know you're safe out in the ocean, just use caution ok?
They are having thousands of people in Washington in support of Islam and want this war over with.
I just hope two other countries don't start a new war. That's all that's on the news, which makes GaG kinda boring lately. What's there to talk about really? I'm running out of questions to ask. 🤷🏼‍♀️☮️

[Asker]

@sage2021 I know

[sage2021]

@Jennz6
In the real old days, when two people were on the were on the wet sand both wondering if either one was a Christian. One of them would make the first move and with his foot, he would draw a picture of a fish in the sand - that meant he was a Christian to the other man whole smiled when he saw the 🐟 drawn in the sand. Then they wouldn't have to say it for fear other's would hear their words and kill them for being Christian's.
You ever see a lot of different things like bibles and other stuff and see something with a sideways hallowed out fish - just the out line of a fish? That's what I am talking about.

[Asker]

@sage2021 footprints 👣 in the sand

[Lara_Croft]

Yes because Jesus is Lord and some people want to rule with fear

[Asker]

@lara_croft Amen 🙏 sister

[provokeesmokee]

No.

Christians just have persecution fetishes and love playing the victim while being scammed by rich Evangelists.

[OlderAndWiser]

You know that's true!

[Asker]

Yes, it scares me too

[OlderAndWiser]

I am extremely reluctant to travel to foreign countries because of the persecution and victimization of Americans and of Christians. I have the double whammy.

[Anonymous]

I am from Pakistan and not systematically no. There may be incidents but I can assure you there is no persecution. We have a Christian missionary university in my City and 300+ Churches in my City

[Opinion Owner]

Additionally, we have minority seats for Christians in our country, so unlike US or UK where people have to be in actual majority to get representation we give them representation in our country's parliament.
We do get crazy people fighting over it but according to the blesphemy laws no Christian and a lot of Muslims have been sentenced to death.

For a country or 240 million, I don't think it would be possible for minorities to live here if it was a systematic manner of persecution.

Here, Be it Muslim or Christian or Hindu, we are all in the mess together. There is no discrimination in the same manner.
Personal example, I have a Christian employed at my work, we give him same salary (a little extra) since he works good even though my other workers objected. Similarly, the tyre shops and are also with them. We had a 40 year old relation through work with a family that has served us till 2018 when our fuel station closed down. And still I always go to him whenever possible for tyre work.

Anyhow, people really think Pakistan is worst for just Christians but it's same for everyone. Everyone is experiencing inflation, corruption and so on. No one is single out. Though, we have also opportunist who takes asylum in Canada and US claiming to be ostracized back home. Well, eye opener is that no one so much as touches them otherwise they would be in jail and not seeking asylum.

By the way, the Christian University had a principal and he offered people to get admission in exchange for conversion. That was the most pathetic attempt to convert Muslims🤣🤣🤣.

[Guardian45]

Religious Persecution is the way if ALL men! It has existed for millenia, and will continue to do so! EVERY religion has faced this!

[AngelLily]

Yes the worst places for Christian’s are usually Islamic

[XXblack88]

I'm honestly not sure 🤔 I know China pretty bad to be a Christian in

[Anonymous]

Yes, and vice versa. That's kind of how religion works.

[Mansearching]

Yes they are. Its not out there in the news.

[Mansearching]

As much

[goldenboybradyjr]

Probably, because ALL "religions" try to persecute those who deviate from the prescribed dogma of the majority theocracy.

[KralArthur]

Persecutor of the centuries is united s*ts of Murica.

[TdotRep2023]

Nope they never have been they actually live in peace better than none Muslim countries like Dubia where there is no tax.

[sage2021]

@Jennz6
That's our Jen - always walking on a high place without a net to catch her in case she falls.
Tightrope Jen 😘

[DarkLegacy]

Yes they are, their religion is effectively banned.

[TravelingMaaike]

Not as much as the other way around I think

[AmeerX]

What do you mean? We are no Angels but in my country Pakistan we do have problems and suppression of Religious Minorities isn't one of them.

We do have incidents of religious fighting but it's less with Christians and more to do with general infighting. Unfiar is for all people on similar level.

[Asker]

@AmeerX so I have to be a Muslim too 🧕

[AmeerX]

No, not really

[Asker]

@AmeerX I putting my life in jeopardy

[AmeerX]

How so?

[Asker]

@AmeerX I am sure I’m confused

[Asker]

Me too

[peterrezeeek]

u didn't follow me yet

[Asker]

You have to follow me honey 👩‍⚕️

[peterrezeeek]

followed

[serious]

I am not sure about this.

[Avicenna]

Yes, many of them are

[austinbooth]

I bet they are.

[Christoff92]

Depending where in the Islamic world.

[Alex8736]

Not just by islamists but atheists as well

[Night_Angel]

Nope!

[Asker]

I thought that they were?

[4ngelic]

yea they are

[Anonymous]

Not as much as LGB and the Jews, but yes.

[caramelcake37]

Good post

[Asker]

@caramelcake37 thank you sweetie

[caramelcake37]

@jennz6 You're welcome☺️

[Longshanks1968]

Who cares

[Longshanks1968]

In history, more blood has been shed in the name of Christianity than anything else ever!
So if there is ever an argument. that they deserve it then…..
Maybe if they could leave others alone to believe how they chose, they wouldn't have targets on their backs.
Not everyone wants Christianity forced upon them!

[nawtee_me]

Yes they are

[LunarEclipse433]

Absolutely

[pickles77]

100%

[BLP11520]

Probably 😞

[MaxUsefull]

Obviously yes

[urpapi69]

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