Maybe. Although I think there’s a lot to be said for male peer pressure too, especially in politics. I play hockey so I’m always hearing dudes shooting the shit in the locker room. A lot of them have some pretty right wing views, I’d say I disagree with most of it, but I stay silent, mostly because I’m there to play hockey and not argue politics, but also because the nature of their defense of their beliefs INVARIABLY will boil down to “only a pussy would think like you.” And it’s just like “ok, bud”🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂 Like am I really supposed to engage in that argument? “You got vaccinated? Lol, what a bitch.” This is just not a serious person I’m dealing with, so why even have the battle? And it’s going to turn into something I take personally, because they usually don’t have any legitimate facts to work with, so it goes to ad hominem attacks by the second or third volley. I honestly feel like the right wing just survives on guys being afraid of being called a f@g by their buddies, lmfao
https://www.youtube.com/embed/DmTgpsvkqt8Where’s the lie? And these people don’t want their minds changed, they consider that additional weakness. All you can do is hope to outvote them. They’re lost until they find themselves, and no one can do that but them personally. It’s too exhausting to spin my wheels in the mud with people who actively don’t want to get it.
You’ll have to forgive me, …Doctor? YAsQuen, I presume?…but I just don’t have time to take in a lecture of what I’m sure are very legitimate and not-at-all-skewed-to-push-a-narrative-based-in-greed-or-some-kind-of-bigotry facts on this brisk autumn morning.
well that is very open minded of you. Thank you very much for assmuing im bigoted right of the bat! What a lovely coincidence that is.
Mister WhiteSteve seems to be trained in the art of, I have not had 8 years of education on a singular topic therefore any and all input however well sourced must be horrible.
Lets do a simple one.
Do we cut the pepee and gives se drugs? Its more complicated than yes or no of course just gadging ur stance
I can’t assume anything about you other than your spelling is poor and often tough to comprehend. Surely you can understand why it’s hard to take the opinions of someone who can’t even cogently express themselves in written form, this is like 3rd grade stuff.
I don’t speak Latin, but you probably misspelled something there, too😂 Go study, run along.
Of course I know what ad hominem means, I already alluded to it. I’m just busting your chops, man.
Sorry for coming at you like that, but I’m just fatigued of the arguments, like I said, and every time I have them, I’m presented with incorrect or badly skewed facts and figures that somebody with no life spent all week coming up with to find a way to build an argument in their favor, and it’s just a tiring and pointless exercise. Furthermore, they all are the same, so I don’t know if there’s some right wing website that gives you your talking points and arguments to parrot to others or what, but it’s always the same stuff, and I just don’t have the energy to debunk things point by point, so I’d rather just skip the whole thing.
Very basic my dude! I know what we can talk about. Censorship
Im as close to a free speech absolutist as possible. But im fully aware that i am not in fact a free speech ABSOLUTIST. No child porn. So im out.
Whats your stance? Can speech be violence? Equation of hatespeech to violence. You cool with that?
Is Censorship going on (widespread?) Whats the bias mainstream vs alternative. Left Right
you dont have to answer all just pick a few. Hatespeech would be my boy
I mean…. I don’t get into fancy terms like “hate speech”, but I’m not sure the founding fathers intended for “free speech” to mean that we should aim to be disrespectful douchebags to others. I think that’s more intended for “citizen vs government” dealings. For broad speech in general, I’m kind of a “code of the streets” guy. Say what you say, but don’t be surprised when somebody doesn’t like it if you’re talking wild shit and they stomp the shit out of you. Speech is free, but so should be others’ response to it. Freedom of speech and freedom reaction to said speech. I wouldn’t extend that into law, necessarily, like I don’t think you should go to jail for what you say, but I like the old principle of “don’t let your tongue get your teeth knocked out”, and I figure that will keep people honest and inside the rails. For social media…. that’s when it gets tricky because that’s legitimately dangerous to our existence to provide a forum for free-flowing misinformation and disinformation, that needs to be highly regulated, somehow.
Is there a possibility that the state is currently using certain social media plattforms to influence public opinion in their favour? Is it a possibility?
Im gonna list FACTS that turned out to be correct.
Hunter Biden Labtop
Ivermectin works on covid
Lockdowns will do more harm than good
Mask dont work (Like maybe in 5 % of cases)
The vaccine is not even close to 70percent effective and thats generous
Covid inside bad, Covid outside good (fine)
The list goes on endlessly
Again, all of these are factual and were assumed to be reasonable stances at the time social media companies choose to censor them.
So im asking you is the Government censoring factual and or at least reasonable opinions because they would interfere with their agenda?
Lets imagine a world where reasonable opinions (not factual but reasonable opinions that happened to turn out correct) are censored on the whimp of the government. Is that something we want to encourage? Is that not a 'threat to our democracy'?
You are gonna say the government has nothing to do with it. Have u read the twitter files?
This thing is not right vs left. Its establishment vs the common people. Its a centralized proto-fascist state creating imaginary crisis after imaginary crisis that envokes fear in the populace with which they make the people agree to more and more control.
Mussolinis definition of fascism was something like: when the government and the companies within walk in Lockstep.
Read the Twitter Files. Look into Edward Snowden separate from what mainstream sources say. Look into Julien Asange.
Look into Black and hispanic unemployment under trump. Look into who deported more illegals trump over Obama (hint hint)
Google is compromised aswell. Proly the worst of all. There is this guy with the surname Epstein (not affiliated) that looks into the influence google had over the last few elections.
Its scary how unaware u are. Think about. U google something. You search something on yt. Bam thats ur facts.
I dont think this will go anywhere. feel free to respond tho.
I agree fully with the first few bits. What about hate speech? You dont wanna get into that?
I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, I believe those to be very dangerous to our society, so that covers most of what you’ve written.
Hate speech I addressed at length, I just said I don’t real do all the goofy little terms we assign to that stuff. If you want to call it “hate speech” for this discussion, we can, and in that case I think it falls under all the “freedom of speech, freedom of consequential response to said speech”, i. e. “don’t let your tongue get your teeth knocked out.”
I would never even get to the point of googling clearly preposterous claims. We seem to have forgotten Occam’s Razor. The real answer is usually the simple, obvious one. Conspiracy theories pique people’s interest because they’re intriguing and it makes them feel smarter and more clued in than others because they’re one of the few “in the know.”
If this is going to turn into a Q-Anon thing, I’m pulling the ripcord on this whole conversation, lmao
I’ve read 1984. You aren’t Winston, there’s no O’Brien, no Big Brother. It’s a work of fiction. Touch grass.
Women have big boobs and small muscles. That's enough. ﾠ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEEcN2lTVQ
Conformity is very important to girls and women as a rule.
That is why girls and women that are non-conformists are often ostracized by other girls and women.
Typically clicks are formed to deal with it.
Take the Goth movement for example that started in the UK. Goth girls will mingle with one another mostly to help deal with the excommunication from other females.
I thought women were all catty and hated each other.
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Yes, women are much more easy to scare with news propaganda. More are more independent and willing to fight. Women led the "get vaccinated" charge.
Women seek validation more, follow the pack more, are more easily scared and worried and can be manipulated voting wise.
I mean you see it in politics. The security, financial stability, welfare of the entire country is in peril because we have leaders that have erased our nation having a border and national sovereignty as millions of illegals just swamp our country. Anyone who follows events at all knows this is a horrendous issue.
Yet, every woman will vote almost 100% just based on abortion. A few states have stricter abortion laws then others do and every single issue that affects the stability of the nation, economy, immigration, taxation, international affairs goes out the window and they'll just vote over this one issue. They want as much casual sex as possible with no consequences (sex makes babies... shocker), and that's how they'll direct the entire trajectory of the nation, the most lax abortions laws.
Let's start with women tend to have community priorities and support compared to men.
Here's another thing about men, they commit suicide more then women. Why, men avoid connections and support. It's human nature if not nessesity to maintain upwards of 100 individual connections with people. 150 is the natural limit of the human brain.
On various levels of hows it going stranger, to loving marriage, kids and who they know, friends and friends of friends. You as a person need connections because you never know if you ever fall off the edge and need help someone will be there and maybe you'll be there who fell off the edge and be their for them.
That's how we all became human.
womans as a gender are comformists they don't feel comfortable when theyare not a part of a already existing thing also they don't like confrontations and getting judged they agree with the crowd no matter what they really think, mans were supposed to be opposite but nowadays actual mans are rare instead we have as long as it doesn't bite me in the butt it's okay type of guys roams around the world, the type of guys who accept womans ultimatums and as long as they got what they want at theend of the day doesn't care about the outcomes and how far they have been fallen.
Yes and it’s mostly due to evolutionary reasons. Women bonding with other women was a means of survival back then they has limited options and freedom.
However there is a horrifying aspect to women being hive minded: they are more impressionable to emotionally charged and twisted political ideologies.
Right now western women are being hive minded about “free Palestine”. I briefly thought they were just ignorant on exactly what “free Palestine” means. But here is what “free Palestine” really means:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/isMUWgDSpcg Nope just more social and you guys are all alone on your computers and video games like zombies
Would make a good horror movie 🍿🎥
How is that an insult it's reality!
You can't be hive minded when your one isolated and just detached from each other!
I'm going guys when your together in a crowd or in war your just so brain dead and rapey!
All those hamas rapping it's all they do but hide with human shields!
so your agreeing but not on a biological but rather social front? at least in the west.
Good to know that we agree to a certain degree.
what happens during war is little more extreme than during ur coffeeshop visits but sure men get hivemindy during war times.
Mossad did 7th of October. They are sponsoring those guys.
So funny how people are making what ever war time truth they want.
It's all a conspiracy from England so we stay in the oil!
It is a known fact that women are more hive-minded. Women are followers more often, which is somewhat natural because men lead and women generally are inclined to follow the leader. But even with each other women are followers. They do what the group does, they listen to what one woman in the group says and they will all follow it.
women are more social compared to men. this is the same reason why suicide is common among women than men. because women talk to other women about their feelings while men don't. Women meet up with their friends to update each other on their lives. Men meet up with their friends to do an activity.
They definitely are more hive Mindy.. Being more people oriented, and "empathetic" in some ways definitely creates that.. It's why a lot of women start to like a guy when they see other women liking him.. Also, why you'll usually hear more talk about how they didn't think for example a guy isn't as sexy as other women made him out to be.. Basically acknowledgement of breaking away from the hive mind..
Yes. They are evolved to be that way which is why they are more communicative than we are. In addition, their hearing is evolved differently from ours for comparable reasons.
I could kind of almost swear the women are (unlike men).
They are universally unable to fall in love with me. It's like a hive-mind collective meeting they have regularly without having to physically attend.
However @Cynicaldreamer would likely say the exact same thing about men.
Maybe we just tell us that ourselves to cope with it. Nevertheless it's a fun concept.
It is their nature from the village onward. Why they vote Democrat. They tend to go long with the mob. Men have had to think independently for millennia because in hunting and combat, everything can change in a blink.
@noemiii The Italians, Germans and Irish did not come here for government services. They came to avoid famine, socialism and Kings/Dictators. There's a difference between that and the south of the border invasion. I don't support illegal immigration. You probably do. Have you offered them a bed room or access to your fridge or bank account? Or are you generous with other people's money?
So what you’re saying is, the Italians, Germans and Irish moved here for a better life from their current living situation in a third world country to a land for better opportunities?
Hm, that sounds like a modern immigrant does it not?
Actually, I don’t see many immigrants on welfare. Most immigrants, especially Mexican immigrants actually work pretty hard, harder than most Americans do. The most people in america on welfare are blacks and whites and while whites migrated to this country blacks well.. didn’t really have the choice, did they?
I don’t support illegal immigration I just don’t have a problem with it. In terms of crime, a white male with a Semi-Automatic rifle is more of a threat than a Mexican.. let’s be real.
And how exactly are they effecting you negatively in any way? Just wondering. They can’t get benefits because they aren’t citizens. They work the jobs you don’t want to work. Most of the crime committed is committed by Americans. Mass murders committed by white males particularly. You need a house built, it’s an immigrant doing it but yet, you’re outraged why? Baffles me.
Suppress wages? Lol. Most immigrants work well below the minimum wage. Increase crime? Actually, most crime is committed by US citizens. Especially big crimes like mass murders. Most immigrants concentrate to particular states like California or Arizona and California is still the 5th largest economy in the world so you sure about that?
@noemiii Yes I am sure about that.
Working for minimum wage or not has nothing to do with the fact that a surplus of workers will deflate wages. Women entering the workforce anyone?
Most people living here are Us citizens so thats to be expected. Does that give other groups especially those that dont pay taxes a freebie to commit crimes`? Would killing thousands with fetanyl constitute a *big* crime?
Why should I care about most Immigrants concentrating in certain areas? Is that a good thing?
Gdp is not the be and end all when discussing livability of countries. Gdp is increased by almost anything. The government could spend a trillion on cushening roads with pillows and increase gdp by 1 trillion. Heck the governent could claim it spend 1 trillion and increase the gdp by one trillion. Why have 100 000 californian residents left for florida and texas in recent years?
Like I said, show me where it says immigration is effecting you negatively in any way. At this point in your life, you should have a career. Never hear people with career’s complaining about lowered wages because of immigration.
Fentanyl. Yes, typical response. Second, the fentanyl is being transported by US CITIZENS across the border.
Like I said, you stated that immigrants are costing states more money. How so? Please, explain.
Funny you say that, but I’m from California myself so I can tell you why people leave and it’s not because of immigration. It’s because the prices for everything in this state is high because the rich can keep it that way. Rich people love using suckers like you to push the narrative that immigration is the reason for inflation.
@noemiii An influx of workers deflates wages. They commit crimes and create paralell socities.
Have u ever bought drugs? Who sells drugs? Yes its a drug ring and us citizens fulfill their expected role.
Immigrants put strain on infrastructure. Increase in crime costs states money. welfare as in human aid.
so your saying livin in cal is becoming shittter by the minute? Better vote for more cut pepees.
I dont even know what that is supossed to adress.
Just making sure you’re Native American? Because if not, that’d make you an immigrant as well.
Look, either you deal with immigration or you can move somewhere else. But oh wait, that’d make you an immigrant too, wouldn’t it? Hmm. And all of those problems you named, can be disproven. Over 90% of crime in this country is committed by whites or blacks. White men contribute to over 95% of mass murders in this country and pedophilia. But right, it’s the immigrants.
@noemiii That is not the argument u think it is.
Immigrating into a nation with the approval of said naton or at least to its benefit is different than exploitation of such. Also there is a differnece in sheer time frame that IS relevant. If your grandad murdered somone 200 years ago noone will even think to bring it up because its a RIDICOLOUS argument.
They are here illegaly. Literally forcig them to break the law if they want to earn a buck...
U can check online pedo databanks and u will find plenty black and hispanic offenders categorized as white as to not offend sensitive snowflakes. How is this relevant? Again WHO is selling drugs?
I dont care what percent of reported crime they commit. If ur gonna sit and claim that illegals dont disproportianilly often commit crimes then I can't help you. Its a definitional argument. They are here illegal and can't work legaly hence they need to break the law.
Mass murderes are similary deceptively counted. While it is true that most school, church, etc.( anything not gang related) mass shooters are white I personally see no issue with that since most people living here ARE white. Whole country is white man bashing... Its to be expecing that some men break beneath that and sart killing sadly enough.
Why did u even bring race into this. Why not leave it at American and not American. Kinda racist if u ask me.
@noemiii i already told u that we agree on the fact that it won't happen. Whats stopping the police driving down to home depot and start arresting them. Taking them across the border (which is customary) and build a physical or digital wall.
The state does not WANT to depor them because they are in cahoot with big corporations. Big corporations BENEFIT from surpressed wages (also thanks feminism) and a bigger consumer base.
@noemiii noone is complaining about legal migrants? What is that 10k a year get a green card right? Noone cares the pay taxes. They are helfd accountable. Good on them. Feel free to double the green card process if u want to.
There are 15 000 000 illegals currently residing in this country. Again this is a low estimate.
Woman of all levels of beauty and ugliness and poverty and riches can be selfish and woman of all levels and stages can be selfless and kind. It’s a character quality and not a status marker.
I think so. When I'm with a group of couples, jokes are made and the wives all have eachothers' backs while the husbands abandon one another or even throw eachother under the bus.
They do compete with one another. But they are united against their common enemy, men. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
obviously!
women are followers and will always jump the wagon that all the women are on. look at feminism for example, that should tell you how agreable women are.
Women have each others' backs. Men stab each other in their backs.
You got it right that it's hormones, testosterone versus estrogen. Men are built for competition, women for emotional understanding.
Men may think the same way, but it isn't have minded, since we do it independently.
Who invented fashion and broadly wear slightly different versions of the same clothes?
Women report higher levels of incivility at work from other women.
Women are more agreeable, and do their best not to hurt other's feelings.
yes , for example 80% of any cult is made up of women around 1 man
women are more agreeable and more socially minded
Women are naturally followers and men are naturally leaders.
All men are tranny so he is not much different
Well, that's certainly not true in my case.
Generally, yes.
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