Americans, if you choose Trump, are you willing to endure the burden of a world war in the following decades?

[Alexandrubaschet08]

A hostile planet against a single and isolated US?

A European continent full of puppet states loyal to Russia and whit a China ready to start the disaster, bringing so in the battle Russia, Europe, India and some African countrys +/- some from South America?

[NamerOfStars]

The guy who not only didn't start any wars, but had no wars declared against the country during his tenure, is MORE likely to start a World War? How on Earth do you figure that?

I mean, if you're going to make accusations that have nothing to do with reality, why limit yourself? Why not "if you choose Trump, are you willing to endure the burden of being attacked by time-traveling velociraptors?"?

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Russia's declaration for the withdrawal of the nato army from the borders of the 90s.
Russia's threat to Alaska "If the USA persecutes the Russians in Alaska, we will take it back".
The alliance between China and Russia and China's threats to Taiwan, which is under the protection of the USA, also being the island that is almost puting your phones and computers in your pockets and bags. Under communism, this would no longer happen for Tavan and the USA.

[NamerOfStars]

Those are all threats of war, yes (well, except what would happen to Taiwan under Communism, since China's not actually Communist, but that's notpicking). But none of them have anything to do with Trump- and, indeed, since Trump seems quite willing to, say, nuke Mexico, foreign leaders are LESS likely to start trouble than they would be with weaker or saner leaders.

Trump's winning the election probably delayed the invasion of Ukraine by a few years. You have yet to explain why his winning would be MORE likely to lead to war.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

If Russia wins in Ukraine, it will establish a pro-Russian regime both in Ukraine and in the Republic of Moldova.
Later threatening even more seriously the "neighboring" states Romania, Poland, the Baltic States, Finland. There are both spies and people infiltrated in the POLITICS of these countries (see the case of Slovakia and the former Polish regime that recently fell in the elections, as well as Hungary).
This radical and extremist policy is promoted by Russia to all countries, including the USA (Trump). The more "sovereign" countries are, the weaker they are in front of Russia to control or occupy them in the future, let's not forget that Russia has reached the farthest to Paris.
These hostile policies can lead to a period of hostility between countries (including the USA), which allows Russia to impose its military force on them.

[NamerOfStars]

We CAN'T forgot that "Russia reached the farthest to Paris" because nothing like that ever happened. Russia never got further than Poland, and even the USSR, no further than Berlin, more than 500 miles from Paris.

When- it's not a matter of "if"- Russia wins in Ukraine, they will set up a pro-Russia regime, yes. But they've exhausted a huge amount of money and manpower even doing what they've ALREADY done- they are a country, not a magically endless source of soldiers and guns, keyed to invade the whole world because they're lead by a James Bond villain.

Nor has Trump in any way encouraged Russia invading its neighbors, unless "not nuking Moscow" counts as encouragement. You REALLY need to stop getting all your information from news sources controlled by the Democratic party.

[Anonymous]

More ridiculous fear mongering, Europe is mostly united already and has nearly twice our population with an economy to match. They can defend themselfs, and no Russia with dying population less than half their size and economy the size of Texas isn't the threat it was 50+ years ago.

Today's real threats are the CCP with a population 5 times that of our own, economic parity and industrial superiority.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

A terrible mistake of history is to underestimate Russia, this mistake was made by both France, Germany, and the Ottoman Empire.
Although Europe has a higher population than Russia and a comparable economy, most of Europe's investments go into social and educational programs, infrastructure, transport and communications.
The European military industry is still a respectable one, but it cannot rise to a long-term defense level without American help.
These programs in which Europe invests massively are also made for the American soldiers and their families to benefit from a 5-star accommodation both they and their families can bring here.
In exchange for their service, we reward them with vacations, education, comfort, the possibility of saving money and even investments through which they can obtain profits. So that many of the Noldati do not really want to leave Western or Central Europe, but they all want to leave Eastern Europe, due to the conditions and stress they are subjected to here, not to mention the risk of death in case they have to intervene on an open Russian front.

[Opinion Owner]

@alexandrubaschet08 What your staying about the sad Condition of European military industry is really just making the case for America abandoning freeloading Europe so that they have a reason to pull their own weight in defense again.

Europe has the people and the money to enjoy an overwhelming advantage over Russia with almost no effort.
The European union has 447,706,209 people, an an economy of $25.4 trillion

Russia by contrast only has 147,182,123 people, and an economy of $5.056 trillion.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Many of these 400 million people are civilians without military training and who are not even European, a fact that 100% in case of war the population of Europe would be drastically reduced as soon as those people would flee back to their countries or to others in which he would have the opportunity.
I do not trust that Muslims and Indians or Africans or South Americans will fight for the European continent as the locals would.
"One hand washes the other" The USA supplies the army, while Europe offers the best short- and >long-term stay conditions. Giving the military the opportunity to invest massively in the basic values for his family (education, social and work experience) [thus bringing the peoples closer].
I consider this unofficial agreement to be to the advantage of both nations and it is difficult for me to understand why you Americans will not agree with this very advantageous agreement, of opportunities.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Although Russia has a smaller population and economy than Europe, it has a larger army. "Quantity is quality" - said Stalin.
In the short term, it is very risky for Europe to wage a war with Russia, Europe can only win a long-term war with minimal losses, due to the economy.
If we add the nuclear option, it is clear that we are talking about a crazy escalation that can endanger human life on Earth, so this option can never be a solution except at the very last moment, in a catastrophic scenario for Europe or Russia.

[Opinion Owner]

@alexandrubaschet08
It will take you about 6 months to turn them into soldiers, as long as they think the USA will be available to fight their battle for them. Europe will never bother keeping any adequately large amount of equipment and trained men on hand to deal with the threat in the mean time.

No Americans should not appreciate European goverment social benefits they are Killing Europe by squeezing the young out of the market. I do agree that their imported Africans, muslism, and to a lesser degree Indians are as likely to turn those weapons on Europe and take over as defend them.

To some degree given the extremely high unemployment European taxes, regulations, and 'values' encourage among anyone who doesn't have decades of expedience to afford to comply. They would probably be quite envious and hateful of their identifiable economic masters whom they don't indemnify with.

After 80 years of this Europe is pretty much screwed regardless, giving a significant number of her native citizens a job and a gun might help but not nearly enough to address their real problems keeping them from carrying on Europe with children and family.

[AviatorTom]

A World War is rarely caused by one thing, or one person. If there us going to be a World War III (I really don't think there will be one), it will happen no matter who is US President, or UK Prime Minister, or German Chancellor, or Chinese Premier, or any other world leader.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Actualy it need to be a moment of weaknes in the policy fot the countrys that get involv. WW1, WW2 show this to us.
WW1 whas already lot of tensions throw all European nations especialy in the Balkans where the nationalist spirit blow evrething in the air.
WW2 show how unprepare whas France, UK and USSR and Belgium for this events politicly and military.
You are very true that is not one event that make a WW but by choising now Trump and posibly take USA out of NATO it will put the humanity face to face with that event more soon then later.

[NaultD]

I do agree but it might be too little too late for any potential putin puppet. Congress got a bill in order to prevent any president from pulling out of nato withoit the act of Congress. This will probably be the new standard for all international treatises and promises.

Like if the iran nuclear deal got a do over, the next president couldn't pull the plug for no reason. Congress with high majority needs the authority.

[OddBeMe]

I don’t see foreign issues erupting because of Trump, tbh. It would be internal. We already have proof of his intentions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkrWL7YuGk

[Dargil]

Americans, if you choose any Democrat, are you willing to endure the burden of a world war starting in 2024 or even before? Trump or DeSantis would prevent that.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Trump will bring that in the next decades if he take USA from NATO

[Dargil]

Bring that with whom?

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Russia or China 100% ( in the next decade the time of Thrump can be decisivly if he take USA out of NATO)

[Dargil]

Trump never shows weakness. He will head off wars with both. Iran, however is in the crosshairs.

[Jersey2]

Trump didn’t start any wars as President. Biden has engaged us in multiple wars. I don’t even think there would be a Russia/Ukrainian war if Trump were President.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

I predicted the Ukrain war from 2014 from the very first touch of Crimea, East Europe is something too unstable for you guys to understand.
Biden had stop the war in Afganistan if you want to put it in this way as well.
With Trump i think USA will really get out of NATO and is game over for Europe and in some decades will be USA turn as well.
I want as well that all nation from NATO to pay theyr contribution and not depand that much on USA (because you guys are soo0 far).
As romanian i will like to have somebody more relabe nearby me (thanks God Poland take this position).
But still Trup did a nice move for my country as well, he move all USA army from Germany to East Europe, Germany talk bad about that move but as romanian i felt more protected.
I just hope Trump will not take USA out of NATO.

[Jersey2]

Trump is smarter than Biden so that helps. Biden didn’t end the Afgan war, Trump set the time table and Biden F’ed it up.

Germany takes advantage of the US. So I support leaving NATO as well if they don’t change. That doesn’t mean we would have allies such as the UK, Germany, Finland and some others. We can support them with a nuclear umbrella. And our nuclear weapons will protect us in the future without NATO.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

I do not agree with any NATO country that shirks the commitment of the alliance.
But at the same time, Germany offers both American soldiers and their families the opportunity to study in English in Germany, to have free access to medical systems, the opportunity to travel to Europe on vacations in exchange for the service that American citizens provide.
Germany does not offer favorable military conditions, but it offers extremely advantageous conditions for the citizens who protect them, I think it is a much nobler thing on the part of Germany for the USA, but I think it is an injustice for poorer countries that still make this sacrifice of 2 % military investment.
The nuclear umbrella is not a guarantee of security, but a guarantee of annihilation. Russia has more nuclear warheads than the US, but several dozen are needed to destroy the planet. Russia is not like the USA, they are stupid and crazy enough not to leave a world without Russia in the future. The US is not willing to do such a thing.

[Jersey2]

Germany gets a lot of money from what the soldiers spend there. Germany does not support the US and its not only money its not sending combat troops to the war on terrorism. They also do not have a single combat ready division and won’t for some years. Their population does not support us either. I don’t care about Europe like my father and grandfather did. We can make peace with the winner.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

No you can't USSR didn't and whas many time so close to face them and they whas crazy enought to face you as well. This is russians mentality evrething or nothing.
The soldiers money are going in even better quality of the german service, i don't thing your soldiers like theyr time in Romania and Poland whit poor education, poor hospitals, no intenational program for education, poor economy and high coruption that LITERALY EAT YOUR MOENEYS.
You dud talk like "I have nukes', I am untouchable". (is an example) Tell that to all thous South americans who are still get in shot fire fight even when they know theyr rivals have guns and people too.

[ProbablyClueless]

To be honest, we're already in a world war. I don't know if I would want Trump in charge, but our alternative might not be any better.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Personally, I think that they could be better options than Trump, but even Biden, if he were to continue his mandate, I am extremely worried about his age and mental abilities at such an age.
I don't understand how he still wants to be president, given how much stress there is on this position.

[ProbablyClueless]

The problem is that we aren't seeing any direction from the left. The republicans at the very least have a sense of direction. The best the Dems have been able to do is "at least we aren't Trump," which isn't really what the country needs to hear right now.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

How come so you think this way. Why USA will not have a better option? Then Biden and Thrump?

[ProbablyClueless]

The American people are emotional and clueless, unfortunately. The strong, aggressive leadership you need in times of war scares these people.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

I can agree in some scenario whit this statemant, but whit USA out of NATO is not gone be a good decision for the future of humanity.

[Surely]

And you know this how? Please share your sources.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

To know what?

[Surely]

@alexandrubaschet08. How do you know that there will be a world war if Trump is elected?

[Alexandrubaschet08]

I mentioned that this world war may exist in a few decades. It is not possible that in Trump's mandate, if he is elected, it will start.
The USA is now intangible, but hard times will come because of his decisions.
Taking the US out of NATO is what Russia and China want. This is how it started from the Second World War, the USA not being a member of the League of Nations that it/you created. Thus it was not possible for countries like Germany, Italy and >Japan< to be stopped, it took 21 years to suffer the consequences of your actions.

[KrakenAttackin]

Seems we are in a war already.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

As USA you are not in any war now.
You guys had give up on Afganistan by now

[gorydetails]

You’re not very smart, eh?