Is epicureanism the male version of feminism?

[Anonymous]

Interpreting the famous quote "God is dead" using Nietzsche's essays, I can say he meant that stoicism was also dead. It was the birth of tragedy, the birth of art, of true metaphysics-peace and joy in the internal workings of the mind, of art and science, free from the guilt of practicing witchcraft or idolatry.

In ancient Rome even Caesar turned from war to the writing of his history of the gauls and other northern barbarians. Many many others did as well. This happened right after the feminist revolution of Rome, when men began hoarding wealth to allure women instead of winning respect by being a humble man's man. When men began complaining marriage was a scam. History does repeat.

Yes

No

[Kaneki05]

Pretty sure Epicureanism was just a ideology that hated on gods existed which I am all for.
But what's that got to do with a male version of feminism?
At no point is trying to obtain pleasure without worry about what a god may say mentioning one has to be a certain sex.

[Asker]

I should've known the type of person to reply to a question like this has a hard time understanding what people mean

[Kaneki05]

Or more you just don't understand. Because the philosophy of Epicureanism is all about breaking free from the limits of thinking their is a punishment or reward from a god/s and living your life around it.
It's also can be a way of saying test your own morality rather than rely on judges like in such quote "Injustice is not a bad thing in its own right, but [only] because of the fear produced by the
suspicion that one will not escape the notice of those assigned to punish such actions."
The whole point is not to limit yourself by what others may punish you for.

[Asker]

Holy fuvk dude what do you think the gods were meant to do besides enforce obedience, family loyalty and patrotism... and can't you see freeing yourself from them IS a form of male feminism

[Kaneki05]

gods are pointless to the eyes of one who follows epicureanism, and no since anyone can have such views it's not about men. It's about a simple ideology that humans should follow.

[edenW]

The fact that it came from Ancient Greece, an extremely patriarchal and sexist society, is enough for the answer to be a resounding "No." Feminism - generally speaking - exists as a response to social inequality and oppression. Men - as a social group - were not oppressed or marginalised in that time at all, so any philosophies from it written by men on behalf of men as a group can't be seen as analagous to feminism.

[Asker]

Thats over simplified. Greece wasn't one culture. They were city states unified by common foods and dialects. The truth is that even in ancient greece women achieved complete freedom and actually the exact same thing happened 150 years before it happened in rome. Hence epicurus was from greece.

[KrakenAttackin]

Feminism is born from a life that is too easy. This is what repeats itself: Men make a society that caters to and pampers women, and women respond by shitting on men.

Solution: let women live more difficult lives and actually be grateful for what men do for them.

[Drewtate]

Julius Caesar never turned from war. He went from fighting the gauls, Germans and Britons to civil war with Pompey the great, fight in Greece, then fighting in Asia minor, fighting in Egypt, fighting Roman rebels in carthage and then Spain. He wrote and administered the growing roman empire while politicking in the senate while waring. If not for his assassination he would have invaded the parthian empire and matched Alexander the great by conquering into India.

[Anonymous]

No, MGTOW, Red Pill and Inceldom are the male version of feinism. They are in fact the mirror image of it.