Do you support affirmative action for women in engineering?

[Anonymous]

I personally don't support any kind of affirmative action.

I don't

I do

[razelove]

Affirmative action is BS in any field. Women don't need help getting degrees, or jobs. If affirmative action were to be implemented, white men are the most under hired group because of lacking opportunities in education, then lacking employment opportunities because of EDI.

There's no white, or men scholarships. The closest would be sports scholarships which women receive an equal amount of because of title IX. You can google scholarships for women and hundreds of them come up. The difference in getting grants and scholarships between me and my wife was getting blood from a stone and water from the sea.

Just recently I've stopped giving any data when applying for jobs relating to race or gender, the moment I stopped being a white man, I've got back to back interviews, at least 1 per week in the radius and paygrade I want to work in my field.

Before that it would be maybe 1 every 2 months. when I was looking for a job.

[normalice]

It's kind of moot as by the time you get to the hiring process women are outnumbered like 100:1 and are somewhat greedily snatched up just for the novelty. If there was to be anything like an affirmative action thing it would have to take place in college admissions.

And frankly I don't see why not. Engineering programs have a huge dropout rate anyway so it's not like anyone will graduate who hasn't earned it. Or rather, I say just let everyone who wants to in and let them decide for themselves after a semester if maybe a degree in art history or whatever is starting to seem more their style.

[Asker]

I mean even then you are snatching opportunity from a talented dude just because he was born dude.

This is sexism for me

I want most competent engineer anyway

My cousin is very good in math. But what the fuck she should face sexism in engineer if she was born a dude and had same skills?

Sound extremely unfair

[normalice]

You have to read the whole thing

[Asker]

I have read whole thing. Affirmative action is sexism period

[normalice]

I don't see anything that qualifies as a response to the final sentence.

[NamerOfStars]

Sexism is sexism, gussy it up however you like. Want fairness? Make applications anonymous- no data on sexes or names.

Of course, few of the usual suspects are going to like the results, but at least then they'll admit it's not fairness they're after.

[JacobJordan]

No. Qualified individuals should get jobs they are qualified for end of story. If a woman is qualified she should get the job if a man is qualified he should get the job. If they are equally qualified dealers choice. I hired the most qualified individuals for my lab most of them are men. There are a few women.

[SolitarySolace]

I don’t support affirmative action for anyone, period. Women especially. No one deserves special treatment. Just because she’s a woman doesn’t mean she’d know what the fuck she’s doing. The only reason affirmative action was a thing was because of feminism.

[Asker]

Neither do i lol affirmative action seem like sexism to mr

[SolitarySolace]

It is sexism. There is a lot of sexism against men and it is accepted because no one can see women being evil they think women are these oh so perfect creatures who can do no wrong. They take no responsibility for their own actions, they don’t respect themselves they’d rather whore around on the internet and still expect a man to make her his girlfriend and marry her

[exitseven]

No, . What if they had affirmative action for a big project upgrading the electrical grid. You get somebody who was hired because of affirmative action and what if the project does not get done right?
Would you want a surgeon who got there by affirmative action taking out your liver?

[lightbulb27]

plenty of women in engineering, I worked with many. the original NASA lunar project had a bunch of women. Women all over the place. Some of them made more than I did.

I have no problem with promoting to. but favoritism is wrong.

[BonzoInBitburg]

Let's do affirmative action for women in bricklaying too. Only 0.3% of bricklayers are female and we need to fix this travesty created by sexist masons

[Flatmanlewis]

The patriarchal system of bricklayers and masonry will never give up their stranglehold on this industry. I’ll know the world has finally hit equality when I can drive to work happily seeing women Highway workers, linemen, tow truck driver, and of course bricklayers. So unfair.

[Dargil]

I do not support any form of job discrimination. If she can do the work well, hire her. But don't lower the bar for DIE.

[monorprise]

When a poorly trained artist makes a mistake she simply doesn't make money, when a poorly trained engineer makes a mistake people can die.

[OtterMan68]

I'd be in favor for scholarships for women to go into engineering, but not hiring solely based on gender

[BCRanger10]

I don't support affirmative action at all.

[AmeerX]

What's affirmative action?

[Asker]

Giving preference for job/college

[AmeerX]

There is no quota for women in my place. Where do you live?

[AmeerX]

Oh I don't support separate quotas.
If a woman works in factory good for her. Otherwise no special treatment. In engineering or otherwise we need result.

[LimitedBenefits101]

LOL ofc women voted yes, WHAT A SURPRISE.

[shortster]

Hiring based on sex is a violation of the EEOC.

[laly520]

yes
needed

[Asker]

Why?
Women can study and get better score to go into engineering college?
Why do you support sexism against men?

[laly520]

never supported sexism
what I meant is aiming for equality

[laly520]

women r underpaid although they do same tasks as men

[Asker]

Women are not under paid bro. They work less hour then men. That's why they are paid less

[laly520]

I recommend checking again n looking for numbers, statistics
u lost there bud

[SolitarySolace]

I knew you were a feminist you tried to claim you weren’t but you are

[laly520]

I never claimed to be anything

[laly520]

numbers n statistics talk

[SolitarySolace]

Don’t have to claim anything your “values” speak loud and clear bitch

[laly520]

reported.

[SolitarySolace]

So sensitive. Did I hurt your feelings? And yet you think you know what traditional women are like? 🤣

[Asker]

@laly520 read this

www.aei.org/.../

I have read all statistics.

Wage gap exist because women work less hours. Even unmarried childless women work less hours.

You can't force women to work more hour's. Men won't work more hours if they were not give higher for working more hour's.

Lol a woman even won noble price for showing that wage gap exist because of women choice

[Asker]

@laly520 it is illegal to way women less if they work same job same hours and have same skills.

Anyone won't do it. And if women indeed were okay with getting paid less than people would only give job to them

Do you know many American companies hire immigrants who barely speak English?

Why do you think they do? Because they are okay with getting paid less
Companies would do anything to save money lol