In such an industry in which is mostly complied of men, what do you think about women getting a foothold in this side of business? GirlsWhoCode for example is trying to push for more influential woman to become hardware engineers to even out the gap between men and women in the field of technology development.
(Please note I'm not affiliated with girls who code, just using them as a reference to my question)
Do you support female hardware engineers in the technology industry?
It is fine as long as they earn it themselves and are not hired based on quotas while a more qualified man is not hired due to his gender. It is also not okay if women get more exclusive free money than men get for the same thing. It should be fair, not sexist against men and artificially force men out that earned their place. If a woman actually EARNS her place (is qualified and earned her way through school just like a man would have to) then it is perfectly fine.
Now how about women try being less sexist against men and allow them to be babysitters, housecleaners, etc? Since they often refuse to hire them based purely on their gender. I even tried to have a summer daycare and couldn't get even one client because they don't want a man doing that, even though their kids were my students and were very happy in my class, the parents didn't trust a man to watch them during the summer while the parents worked. Yep, plenty of obvious sexism against men that society still accepts.
Why not I would think that they need a degree just like a man does so why not. if they have that degree there's nothing wrong with that
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I support everyone doing what they want to do. If that happens to be a woman who wants to do hardware coding then yas, if it’s a woman who want to be a makeup artist then also yas, if it’s a woman who want to be a housewife or stay at home mom then yas also. Same with men, if they want to do hardware coding or construction yas, if they want to be a clothing designee or daycare worker then also yas, if they want to be a househusband or stay at home dad yas. I’m sick of people making everything about gender (or race) and that some choices are seen as better or more valid just because they fit the feministic agenda. It should be about personal choice and what each individual wants to do, regardless of gender, and if that results in some career fields being 95% female/male or whatever I couldn’t care less. It’s irrelevant if everybody is doing what they chose to do.
No. Why would I? Sex is a terrible way to measure the value of an engineer.
Why do women need a "foothold?" Are they an invasion force?
All I want in the hardware engineering field are people who interested in being and are good at being hardware engineers. Why would I give a shit about their gender? Am I supposed to subvert the idea of merit in favor of some pointless pursuit of identity politics?
Statistically, there's going to be a huge gap in the number of men and women in the field, just based on interests. I see no problem with that. By trying to force that ratio to change unnaturally, all that can happen is that deserving people are excluded and people who shouldn't be there are included for no good reason. That would be a purely negative impact on the industry. Why would any sane person support that?
Especially for an industry that's actually very important to the modern world. This isn't book publishing or something, where it doesn't matter if the industry sucks. This is engineering. You have to get it right, which is why it's important to rely on meritocracy, not sexism.
Yeah we help sponsor a few initiatives, one of those is women in engineering.
the UK has had women in engineering for years and especially within electronics industry for various tasks are often better than guys.
before my current job I was in the Air Force and we had a lot of very capable women engineers and engineering officers.
we do talks at schools to gain interest, the more people interested means we get a larger pool to pick recruits from.
The same with organisation I work for we look to increase the number of people we can recruit from. We also do it for underprivileged people and have a couple of sponsorships.
It’s about encouraging them in the first place.
There are definitely more entering the area, as I notice this from those who get inteviewed.
Women are just as capable as men are. Women tend to have a different way of thinking or approaching problems that has been, in my experience, beneficial time and time again.
The kind of men who don't want women in STEM are the kind of men who are threatened by the competition women bring to the table.
Plus, I mean... as a man being a typical man, what kind of dude wouldn't want to see more women in this gigantic sausage fest we call engineering?
Absolutely! In fact, in some industries, they PREFER females. For instance, in the hearing aid industry, most of the people who assemble hearing aids are females because they have finer, nimbler fingers than males, so it is easier for them to work with the tiny parts involved.
People should have the right to pursue whatever you they want and hires should be done through a meritocracy system. Trying to make quotas on such things is stupid. Let people enjoy their self discovery and find the fields of study they want for themselves
I'm an engineer and worked in the same industry for 27 years. We've been trying all kinds of ways to get more women engineers, but 99% either marry another engineer and decide they prefer to stay home and be a mother by age 35 or they gravitate to engineering "type" jobs that pay well but have little technical responsibility and much more social content. I don't know a single female engineer over about age 45 with much relevant remaining technical expertise at all.
I support their ability to, I support any women wanting to, but this whole hyper-focussing on gender is getting really old and I don't think I support the idea of trying trying convince women they SHOULD be going into male-dominated fields. Like, if she wants to, she wants to, but if she doesn't, she doesn't. Why try to coerce them towards something?
Your question and your text don't match. Question is about women in the industry, text is about pushing, and even forcing women in the industry.
No one cares if there are women in the industry, people care about having competent people. Men, women, goats, doesn't matter. What is annoying is when you try to force them just because they're women. No one stops women from becoming engineers, if they want to, but they don't, it's that simple. Why aren't you also advocating for women into hard or dirty jobs that are in vast majority done by men? It needs some equality too, there.
Wait, you can't be serious can you? Didn't I clearly state that it was just for reference?
Also nobody is forcing anyone to do anything, the site that I referenced is just trying to influence women that they can have opportunities in this field of work. Yes, there's a gender gap between certain jobs, but nobody is forcing anybody to do a certain job.
Yes, definitely. I teach Computer Science and I teach a computer hardware course and even though there are not many females in my class they are usually among the best students.
okay- I worked for a defense contractor years ago. I was in a degree program that had a work/ study component and that is where I worked. When my work period was up my boss tells me that I had to interview a replacement for myself from a field of 4 candidates. There was an attractive female among them that happened to be a lot better than the others in my opinion. I told my boss my recommendation and he picked one of the guys. He told me that the girl would be too much of a distraction.
Yes. I work in high tech. I am working and and have worked with female engineers. Many of them have patents in their name. I'd say every one of them was very qualified for the job, some highly qualified.
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It's fine. The only part that bothers me is the gendered encouragement. People can do what they want to do, but when there's this kind of pushing of it, I think it's toxic. If we're to think that women are fully capable then let them do it by themselves.
As a senior in the tech industry myself, the problem for women never has been men, the work, or the process of selection. It's simply the lack of females taking up the roles.
Just like there are few male nurses compared to female nurses.
okay- when I was in grad school the program I was in only had one girl out of about 30 people. This was in the 90s/ . One night on the first day of class a really hot looking blonde was sitting in the front of the class. My buddy pokes me in the ribs and tells me to check out the new student. I took one look at her and said that she is probably in the wrong class. He tells me I was wrong. So the professor comes in and writes his name on the blackboard and the name of the course which was Advanced Data Networks. The hot chick picks up her books and walks out of the room never to be seen again.
This is a silly question. There is no reason a woman can't be a computer hardware engineer. The job does not require extreme amounts of heavy lifting or something.
I also hate having to work with people who can wreck my life and cost me my job with one false accusation of sexual misconduct. I won't even talk to them for fear of that.
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