Do you believe someone can be influenced to 'turn gay'?

[Still-alive]

By either the media or people around you is it possible to turn a person gay?

Yes i do beleive thats possible

No thats impossible. they were likely always gay and maybe tried to repress it

Maybe, i don't deny that possibity

I'm not sure

[petitedollbabee]

Yes and no… temporarily, yes I believe so. But permanently? I don’t believe so. Sexuality is not a decision. There’s many factors to it. I myself went through 2 years of being turned “lesbian” after I was r-worded by a guy. The trauma caused me to not be able to be around guys for a while, let alone feel any attraction towards males. So for 2 years I only felt attraction towards girls. Eventually I worked through that trauma and my attraction for guys returned. So it was temporary, and a direct result from a traumatic event. I’ve known other people who have been through similar to me, and have temporarily had a different sexuality. But always returned to their original sexuality before the trauma happened, whether it was gay, straight, bi, etc.

[Still-alive]

Interesting so do you consider yourself bi now? Or just straight?

[petitedollbabee]

Definitely not straight, I was interested in both guys and girls from the start. But I’d consider myself as demisexual rather than bisexual. I don’t feel sexually attracted to someone just based off of physical appearance. There has to be some sort of emotional connection.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I don't think so. Most people know what gender and/or sex they're attracted to. So, if they were attracted to the same sex, they were probably already gay but didn't realize it. It's the reason why some people don't figure out their sexuality until adulthood (there's nothing wrong with this, by the way).

[sawno]

Yes, I think its more common for girls though. But imagine your a girl who had bad experiences with men and originally wasn't interested in girls, one of your friends happens to be lesbian / bi and she convinces you to try it out at least once and made it a nicer experience than the ones you had with a guy. That can change someones attraction around.

I don't think it will be common, but I do think that if the individual was somewhat open to it it can be brought out of them. What happens more is kids being convinced to change their gender, kids don't have good enough identities yet and are easily manipulated so there you see a lot of manipulation being effective.

[goaded]

I think that some people will turn to any group that offers them acceptance and love. I don't think the core of that group has any choice at all.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

No, it's impossible

[midnightmoon05]

Most nowadays, especially young kids…like teens…are so easily influenced to be lost. So yea… they can. Due to lack of strong family values.
on the other, it’s so much harder to keep one to stay their ground. I did for the sake of my future generations… my kids will continue the legacy we started.
they have learned to not be weak.

[Still-alive]

so first of all you do beleive someone can be turned gay? and also if they are gay they are weak?

[midnightmoon05]

You missed my point…someone who is easily influenced is weak.
Most are easily influenced to try sexual acts. So they become bi.
To be grounded… is hard.

[midnightmoon05]

So they become bi or confused. *
Those who are truly gay…they know early on…not because of society influences around teen years.

[Still-alive]

wow you are sooo lost lol...

do you have evidence to back up your claims that people just 'become' gay or bi? like how would you even measure that? what if they are just exploring things and figuring it out on their own?

for you to just conclude that they are just being influenced to become gay or bi... its a bit half assed quite frankly.

[lightbulb27]

her answer same as mine.
Yes... people are programmable to some extent. Some people will project their emotions upon others... it's projection. Kids can be damaged or misdirected at any time in development to experiment, that would include traumatic episodes they may not associate to the damage. From that point anything can happen, not just gay/les/bi, and difficult to locate and takes effort to locate root issue.
I'm not saying that is true for all people...
To your point "... just exploring". if you leave fragile, "follower type" humans loose in society, they will fall right into the pit of doom. As a parent you do not, ever, let your kid go experimening on their own based upon what some sleezy other people/hollywood/society has come up. That's called "asking for trouble". Kids need guided to navigate hazardous environment. Once grown, they make their own choices and accept consequences. As children... and that is actually sometime prior to full development around 28, they need parents.

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 ok i meant teens only. teenagers will and often do explore things and thats against whatever their parents tell them or not. because its a natural thing. thats why the best we can do is yeah tell them not to do it and discourage them BUT because we were all teenagers once and understand how hormones are at that time in or lives, if they do explore anyways to do it safely.

and now for kids, as far as i know i don't know any media thats teaching kids (we'll say 12 and under) to explore their sexuality. they might be taught typical fifth grade sex ed, but no ones telling them to go out and experiment sexually. if they are then yes that is wrong (that goes for gay OR straight by the way).

as far as i know the only thing they might be taught is that its ok to be gay and that there's nothing wrong with them for being a little different from normal. i see that as a positive thing because the alternative is they learn that its wrong to feel the way they feel and they should repress it. it leads to depression and anxiety and other bad mental effects.

[lightbulb27]

I hear you. I think you are saying, at some age, kids want to experiment and at some age, that is ok as a parent to allow them
Kids are influenced by their environment. I've seen such around, but most of it I would agree is "it just is". There's nothing wrong with saying..."someone is like this, but that isn't you". That's different than imposing ones emotions on another. When that happens to children, they can be "warped" in variety of directions... when the kids don't have the awareness or strength to oppose (e. g. emotional trauma... possibly deceit).

Being parent is guide and sometimes requires standing ground on values. Better the parent better the outcome.

I think you would agree... some aspect of attraction is developmental. "Gay"... was not fixed on moment one of the fertilization was it? It developed...

[midnightmoon05]

@lightbulb27 thank you honey for elaborating! So smart! 😘. See I picked a good one!

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 "that is ok as a parent to allow them"

not 'allow them' but more like if they do experiment and you find out about it you don't come down hard on them. the consequences shouldn't be severe (from your end). all im saying is that if they still choose to do it anyways to make sure and be safe about it. no unwanted pregnancies or stds. so as i said you discourage them from doing it and focus on school and such but as stated above we all know how hormones at that age can be so if they do do it that they first of all understand the full weight of the consequences of not being safe and if they do try anything out that it is done safely.

so basically discourage it but have a back up plan jic they do it against your wishes anyways. it does happen. we oughtta err on the side of caution there.

[lightbulb27]

that answer depends on age. I wouldn't want to be that lax. I don't trust my 16yr old with a car, let alone with a boyfriend and if it's a questionable girlfriend, they ain't hanging out in the bedroom. Their brains are not fully formed, they take excessive risks and they don't understand consequences of their actions nor long term implications of the emotional pain. Thus keeping them out of trouble and re-steering.
I'm thankful the issues we've had to deal with, are small compared to what some face. I'm not sure you understand or believe that a trauma can result in a young adult doing self destructive behaviors.

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 Ok so what if she still slept with a guy despite your warnings? what would you do in that scenario?

And yes i very much beleive trauma can do that.

[lightbulb27]

We teach responsibility and consequences, in that frame, you talk about in advance and guide and they learn to make choices. So I'd provide guidance to avoid the scenerio of being with guy or girl that can lead to "emotional trauma"... e. g. not ready to handle what they experience... as best we can. Already had the "my friend at school is bi... maybe I'm bi?" situation. That was dealt with easily enough... it's BS... the kid doesn't know. So give reality chec..."if you are bi... there is the door!". Solved, likes guys... amazing!
So if she does slip up then it's life and that's that, don't give me the drama... what you want to do next? If it is a guy I don't trust or perceive as dangerous, then he's out of the picture. If I like the guy, then I ask him for a ring to give to daughter. not complicated.
Don't think these are adults that can make decisions... they are learning independence. The problem with freedom is it requires responsibility and that is not being taught in society very well.

Good to hear you see how trauma influences! It's just emotional training... with emotional power that has a physical implication.

[lightbulb27]

yeah!! we're communicating! It's a miracle:)

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 “So give reality chec..."if you are bi... there is the door!".

Wait if she's bi youd kick her out?

“If I like the guy, then I ask him for a ring to give to daughter. not complicated.”

And if its a guy you like and they do this you’d force him to marry her?

[lightbulb27]

It's just contrast and challenge. Ya wanna kill yourself? Here's a rope? It's a bluff on both sides, it's bs on both sides. What happens is someone challenged their thinking and they are too weak to know themselves. Rather than being sucked into that other persons drama, we give an alternate challenge. Apparently she wasn't no! If later in life she chooses that under her own power... so be it, at least then she is ready. I don't see that happening if she's protected sufficiently from those whom are screwed up. keep in mind the girls that said "I'm bi" ... probably are not, or are screwed up and don't know. It's the sick propagating.
I'd challenge the guy to see where his commitment is. You don't get to use my kid as your pleasure orifice without accepting responsibility.

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 ""I'm bi" ... probably are not, or are screwed up and don't know. It's the sick propagating." thats a lot of assumptions you're making there. how do you know that?

Ok so basically you're bluffing is what you're saying here right?

[lightbulb27]

Yes, but some bluffs can turn real and depends on scenario. It's a family, and it's a dynamic.
If someone really is "lesbian"... and we may have one in extended family... time will tell, then so be it. But I'd at least be challenging it since people don't know. But I would not let people take on things that are damaging and risky, depeding upon age and maturity. We don't let our kids play with explosives either eventhough it looks fun... ya know? and decisions at these ages are a just as damaging and just as long term.

[lightbulb27]

my overriding point is that either there a skilled parents or the individual has a strong will and sense of values from somewhere. Many people do not have that. As such, in this world, they are "drift wood" and will drift right into the garbage the world spews out, and they will get lost. Their emotions/mind will be saying something is wrong, but it will feel right. Decades will be lost... maybe all of life if not eternity.

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 do you apply this same scrutiny to straight people by the way? or is it just gays or bi people you do this to?

"If someone really is "lesbian"... and we may have one in extended family... time will tell, then so be it. But I'd at least be challenging it since people don't know. "

We are still talking about teens right? or even after they are adults you challenge this?

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 "garbage the world spews out, and they will get lost." and what 'garbage' are you talking about here? gay people?

[lightbulb27]

yes teens.
Yes and it isn't just other people, it's our own kid I look out for. Don't trust anyone... listen to Trump when he says that.. he's right. If Biden said that, he's right as well. Definitely don't trust girls, nor trust boys. For that matter, don't trust humans. You can build trust. Have a healthy view of humans, which is what I think I have:) I would add to this... it's possible you should't even believe yourself or what you know... I could justify that statement, won't waste my time... just think whether you really truly yourself.
I consider it normal for the girl to like boys so I much more accept "I have a boyfriend, or want to kiss a boy" than "my friend is bi, maybe I'm bi"? There is a video of African tribe saying the same.. if they run into such issues, they straighten people out. I think these issues been around a long time.
I respect if someone is gay, I question it's roots. It's their life once they are an adult.

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 " consider it normal for the girl to like boys so I much more accept "I have a boyfriend, or want to kiss a boy" than "my friend is bi, maybe I'm bi"? "

ok why do you accept the former over the latter more? whats wrong with that latter statement?

[lightbulb27]

not gay people per se, I don't have a problem with what people decide once they are strong enough to defend themselves emotionally. But there is an edge to that... the world turns out trauma, emotional garbage and opinions. "try this", lets experiment, eat these corn flakes or this potion. It corrupts people. Listen to music (endless garbage unless you know how to filter it right), listen to what people on this site say in relationships. It's all over more than ever.
This world has a lot of corruption and all it takes is making an emotional impression on someone or stating an idea.
Ya gotta be really careful. History is full of examples of children being corrupted and used for bad deeds (Nazi germany, Africa soldiers... etc. etc..). Gay is small potatoes. That said, some gay/trans/etc. people can be very pushy and make impressions. They can impact others wrongly so. That is wrong... for it is corrupting others. To be something yourself by your own clearity of heart, that's on you. I support ones right. Children need protected and some adults need emotional healing to escape from the traumas that sent them down the wrong path long ago.

[lightbulb27]

I'e seen our kid, she likes boys. She also isn't very strong willed, so someone suggesting something can draw her in. Those whom are more sensitive need more guidance and support.

[Still-alive]

@lightbulb27 "That said, some gay/trans/etc. people can be very pushy and make impressions."

sure but so can some straight people. its just odd to me that you single gay people out and not straight people. why?

So what if your kid decided at age 12 or something that they are 100% straight. would you question that? or would that be 'normal' to you and not worth worrying about?

[integrale77]

It's possible if someone has enough pressure from people around that that's the way they should be. It used to be a matter of gay people where in denial so tried to carry out a straight lifestyle but yes days it's almost a dirty word to say your straight.

[Still-alive]

Who’s pressuring anyone to be gay? Examples?

[PBandJ_Nerd]

It's not dirty to say you're straight, that's just silly. But the reason why some gay people had to pretend they were straight was because it wasn't safe for them at the time or where they lived. Thankfully these days there are some who can be with the person they love so it doesn't have to be kept a secret.

[lightbulb27]

If their mentality is i line with their body id think they have integrity and bithing is wrong. If they think their penis should go in a guy, or they have a oenis but thelink are a girl ir if human and think they are a dog. I think something lacks integrity. Might be ‘the way it is’… but id question and challenge it.

[RavVid]

If we are talking about guys i don't think so. You know what you get erections over.

I do know gay guys who have taken up with women and a gay who was married and had children before he came out as gay. It is possible for gay guys to fuck women.

[loveslongnails]

No, I don't buy that, but it's a favorite argument of the anti-alphabet people who claim you can "groom" someone to be gay. Meanwhile, those who say that groom more people and kids to hate than a gay person EVER will.

[Still-alive]

Lol yup exactly.

[loveslongnails]

Yes, amazing how they deny that.

[purplepoppy]

Yes. Loads of guys turn gay in prison or when they join the Navy. Even lord Nelson once said it was better a sailor snuggled up in another man's bunk than slinked into a brothel.

[OddBeMe]

Like everything…we can ALL be influenced by our environments as well as genetics. It’s a crapshoot.

But is being gay bad? Doesn’t appear to be. It’s the straights raising psycho kids who shoot up schoolyards. Not children of gay parents.

[Hanrej]

No. More likely there's instances where a heterosexuals might be confused by the flawed logic of the lgbtq-community and convinced to try. Much like how gay men in the past surpressed their urges and convinced thenselves they were straight so too it seems possible to make someone believe they are gay or bi.

[RainbowMarinade]

“Turn gay?” Probably not.
Convince someone they are gay when they are not? Yes. Absolutely possible

[Billlewis]

I wouldn't necessarily say I've been 'turned' gay, but I've definitely begun servicing more guys sexually, as a result of my inability to get sex from women.

[lorenzomichael]

Not quite sure how someone turns gay at all, whether it be a male or female. I really don't even give a fuck but I do believe that's just nasty.. I love women

[CheeseMonster]

No. If you aren't attracted to the same sex then nothing someone tells you will change that.

[supercutebutt]

A gay experience could be influenced by something. Afterall, most everyone is at least a little gay.

[Pohjolan]

There being identical twins of whom one is gay and another isn't shows that this isn't just genetics.

However I suspect that this only happens when they are still developing before adulthood.

[wiltingrosepetal]

Nah. You can realise it, but it doesn't just come out of nowhere

[MemeSupreme]

our parents influence who we like lol so yeah it's probably possible

[Wiredone]

It's highly unlikely. You're either gay, straight or bi. Nobody can change what you like

[zagor]

The fact that I'm not gay after my experience with women tends to indicate not.

[sheikalana]

Only if the person is confused.

[KokoroRamen]

Absolutely.

[LaurenM1997]

No I don’t