Romans 1: 21 - 32
(21) For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. (22) Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools (23) and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
(24) Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. (25) They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
(26) Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. (27) In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
(28) Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. (29) They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, (30) slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; (31) they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. (32) Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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I hate that bollox, bloody religion.
echoing a post below, the huge amount of irony the church praying away gay, while in the back room the priest is showing altar boys what it’s like.
the church and religion in general, are solely responsible on a global scale over 1000’s years, for interfering in sexual matters and making things so bad people are killed, commit suicide or murder others..
easy examples are, the Catholic Church, Ireland, Muslim countries in Africa
They should stick to the non judgmental thing and be nice.
the irony (another one) is the usual saying
love your fellow man.
Praying will do you no good if there is not a change in your heart. God has no obligation to answer a non believer's prayer unless it is the prayer of acceptance of Jesus as your savior. But it also involves repentance and not many gays want to change their life style. Jesus cannot save them if they choose to reject the Son of God's sacrifice for your forgiveness of sins. No one can get into Heaven on their own merits. Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." A person must repent (change their ways) in order to be saved. So gays, or anyone else, can be saved if they are willing to repent and follow God.
I know homosexuals who gave up their lifestyle and reoriented their affections to coincide with traditional majority relationships but it was based on a consistent and multi causal series of social and environmental triggers as well as a series of pluralistic and circumstantially sensitive self initiated efforts too and each person deals with their sexuality in a different way - I do not believe I’m qualified to address the full spectrum of sexual preferences in a spiritual context but I share the opinion that God prefers heterosexuality but still cares about the health and safety of most homosexuals.
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Some people are just born liking others of the same gender. They are just not interested in the opposite sex. And who are we to tell them that what they are feeling is wrong and they should undergo Conversion Therapy?
What if undergoing Conversion Therapy makes them even more depressed because they just do not want to be heterosexual?
I am not a homosexual, I have a boyfriend whom I adored and loved deeply. That being said, I hate it when people are forced to do things that they do not want to. We should respect other peoples' choices and decisions and not just cuss them out as demons or non-believers or sinners just because they choose to have a different lifestyle than ours.They have to want to be delivered from those demons. If they have no desire, then nothing is going to work, and God will not force a person to change and want to get healed. Those who got delivered from it did get healed and they live very productive lives and eventually got married and families of their own. There needs to be power in prayer. That is important. That is the same with everything else and spiritual warfare.
Praying the gay away and hoping god heard you and decides to miraculously take the gayness away is an interesting thought. But I don’t think it’s that common. I think a lot of people who decide to ‘switch off’ their homosexuality is because that was their decision and they’ve decided it’s what’s best for them. There’s a lot of factors that may make someone want to live a traditional lifestyle. But I don’t believe in praying the gay away.
You would have to believe there was something wrong with being gay and be religious to believe it can be prayed away. It's almost part of normal behaviour anyway, u see various animals of same gender having fun, and archaeologists have found evidence of homosexuality dating back thousands of years. I say if it doesn't hurt anyone then there's nothing wrong with it, regardless of wether I like it or am interested.
Given the number of gay priests who abuse boys I think not.
Complicated. Sexual desires are not as simple as they seem. The desire isn't just going to go away, but there are lots of things you can do with it, depending on the person in question. It should be remembered that the primary purpose of prayer should be to acquire information, except when it's simply to express gratitude. The information in this case is how to deal with this temptation, just like any other, which will vary from person to person.
Being gay is not new. It's as old as tress. The same is true for religion and their conversion therapies.
If this was possible, there would be a documented cure, respected in medical fields by now. Or some nuggets of evidence that warrant scientific exploration.
There is none of this. There is however, a lot of nut jobs.Not at all, conversion therapy has been proven to be not only ineffective but harmful to lgbtq people. It should be banned in every country.
I believe its pssible if your willing to let it go. It has to be you wanting it to go away.
Just like porn addictions or any other sex life style.
Its an heart issue. Its between you and God. Not family or friends wishing it go away.
Its nice if they support you and pray for you.
But doing it spitefully is not the answer. No one can force you to believe or do anything.No it is not possible. That would be saying people choose to be gay and they can just choose not to be. And I don't believe that to be true. If conversion therapy works, as others have said why doesn't it work on pedophile priests 🤷🏼♀️
I think this is a crock of bullshit & conversion therapy should be made illegal.
Anyone who actually believes you can, is pretty stupid. I'm not even going to bother pointing out everything wrong with that kind of mindset because it should be pretty fuckin obvious.
I tried, at the insistence of our dog, to pray the feline away from our cat. She still meows, chases mice and scratches the furniture. So I do not believe it works at all based on my experience.
Of COURSE you can't "pray the gay away." That's just SILLY! But you SHOULD be able to realize that you're not gay at all! You were just born in the WRONG BODY! So what you should do is embrace TRANS and change your sex! Then you won't be gay anymore because as we ALL know, TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN and TRANS MEN ARE MEN. So you aren't gay at all, just in the wrong body.
And if you insist on staying in the wrong body and being gay, that just makes you a TRANSPHOBE!Conversion therapy should be illegal. It’s detrimental to your health anyway.
It can be changed, yes, but I doubt mere prayer will do so. Our minds are extremely flexible, and if you wanted to, I'm sure you could become straight if you were gay or vice versa
LOL. I swear I didn't see this until I just posted my question and it appeared right next to this one with almost the same exact cartoon. Different video, though!
Depends how much gay we're talking.
Like stains, if it's low, and you catch it quick, then you can erase it before it sets in. After that you're better off burning it, and starting again.God can make anything happen, so it's possible, but God doesn't just give you whatever you want, or give you exactly what you're expecting.
I saw a black guy take a picture where he was gay and months later took a picture where he was straight
That's how real this is
Lmao
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