Quick Poll: Guns?

[OddBeMe]

Australia famously restricted gun rights after the ‘96 Port Arthur gun massacre claimed 35 lives.

Thank god he didn’t have a gun, more woulda died.

Too bad citizens weren’t armed

Other

[dustybiker2]

When you think how hard it is (unless trained) to stab someone to death. Unless this person was military trained with knives (six is a high number for a blade) so many more would have died with bullets. Those poor people. Be interesting to see how a saner population handles this.

[Anonymous]

I imagine if the Australia had gun laws like the USA there would be more mall shootings than mall stabbings.
The criminal was shot dead by a police officer anyway.

[OddBeMe]

There hasn’t been a mass shooting there since 1998’s port Arthur massacre.

[Opinion Owner]

Because it’s hard to excess guns in Australia. USA crime statistics are way higher than Australia. Homicide rate and many other crimes in USA is higher than Australia.
www.nationmaster.com/.../Violent-crime

[OddBeMe]

Agreed. Love John Oliver’s take too…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks for best answer

[Redstang88]

Quick thoughts - crazies always find a way. Take away firearms as the tool of choice and the US would still have mass casualty events far exceeding any other developed nation. The US had violence problem, not a gun problem

[goaded]

What do you think they should do about it?

[Redstang88]

No idea

[goaded]

There are more knife murders per capita in the US than in the UK, and they're only 8.5% of US murders.

[Redstang88]

That’s what I’m saying…

[OddBeMe]

So we limit legal gun purchases…what happens to the demand of illegal guns? And the price?

[Novemberr_]

Guns should be banned in all across the world but to the essential situations such as legal personal defence. More guns truly equal to more crimes.

[OddBeMe]

Correct. More guns = more gun deaths.

[exitseven]

The second amendment is the only thing keeping the government from seizing all our property and putting us all in chains.

[dustybiker2]

Why would they? They don't need to. Much easier to just spread virus and be home in time for dinner.

[OddBeMe]

Yes why would they? And your little arsenal wouldn’t be an issue for a swat team. But again, the worse our govt would do is tax you.

[dustybiker2]

They might radiate his breakfast. The orphanage wasn't off limits.

[exitseven]

There are millions of gun owners in America. Do you really think the police and the military will fire on Americans protecting their rights just because Biden tells them to?

[dustybiker2]

Again why would they? Why would they want to? Some people with guns (there are guns in my home due to work) some.. or lets get real, a lot of people, have this irrational fear of their guns getting taken away. The us is saturated. Ludicrous to think to attempt. But the paranoia is so real and it's laughable.

[DryGermanGuy]

@dustybiker2
Hear, hear! Perfectly said. But you won't get through to him. This "big, bad government is out to get me if I don't have weapons" nonsense is strong in the right fringe. And IF the government chooses to go after them, there's is nothing they could do, no matter their amount of weapons. They would only end like Koresh in the siege in Waco.

[dustybiker2]

@DryGermanGuy It's true.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven What’s sad is it’s actually makes things worse. During the Dallas sniper shooting so many assholes we’re carrying long guns the cops couldn’t tell who was shooting.

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe It is not a perfect system but it has worked so far. Little by little democrats have eroded the right to bear arms. You have to ask yourself why it is suddenly such a big issue. Why now instead of 50 years ago? What are they really trying to accomplish here?

[OddBeMe]

Worked so far…remember that next time you bitch about men committing suicide.

[DryGermanGuy]

A couple of weeks ago I read about an older case of two regular guys getting into an argument on a parking lot. They both escalated, they both pulled guns, they both shot, they both died. In Europe they would have shoved each other a few times or whatever. In America two family breadwinners are in the ground. Whenever I hear the fable of the bad guy with a gun being stopped by the good guy with a gun, I am thinking about everyday bullshit situations like above.

[OddBeMe]

@DryGermanGuy in Canada they would held the door open for each other.

[dustybiker2]

@exitseven How many schoolhouse shootings were they having 50 years ago? 6 year old kids being shot eleven times with melon sized holes? = Zip.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 Maybe instead of blaming guns we should be looking at other things that have started about the time Columbine happened. ? That was around 2000 I think. About the time social media came out.

[dustybiker2]

@exitseven Your question was "why now instead of 50 years ago". Availability is the answer, but you are correct, how ideas are spread does play a significant part.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 there were plenty of guns around when I was a kid. Every father in my neighborhood was a WW2 vet and they all had guns. What we didn't have was all thr bullying and social isolation caused by social media. These kids are shunned and silenced and their only way to be heard is to come to school with a gun and shoot up thr pka e

[dustybiker2]

Your father had assault rifles when you were a kid?
Times change. Laws should change with the times.

[DryGermanGuy]

Columbine happened in April 1999 and there was no social media back then. Not as mass platforms for everyone, at least.
If anything Columbine should be a drastic reminder how ridiculously easy children could buy guns!

[OddBeMe]

@DryGermanGuy and UT Austin tower shooting was 1969. Imagine if he had an ar 15…

[RebelinSteel]

Why do Americans have to post stuff where people have been killed in other countries, and relish in their deaths, sick post, people have been killed.

[OtterMan68]

if this happened in the US, no one would bat an eye, but if happens in another industrialized country, it makes world headlines because it's so rare

[RebelinSteel]

@OtterMan68 it’s more about the asker getting off on it and posting a question. People died, it’s not a question, just proves asker has zero respect for people. Fairly sick

[goaded]

@RebelinSteel I don't think that's his PoV; I think he's pointing out that it's harder for nutters to kill people in countries that aren't flooded with guns. There was another case in the UK where a terrorist attacked people with a blade and was kept at bay with a narwhal tooth. You can run away or throw things at an attacker with a knife.

41.4 percent of homicides in England and Wales are committed with knives and sharp objects, and that's still a lower rate than the 8.5% of similar murders in the US.

[RebelinSteel]

@goaded it’s still the fact the sick fuck posted on the same day people lost their lives.

[goaded]

In the US you couldn't post anything about guns on a day when nobody was shot and killed. They just don't happen.

[LaurenM1997]

@goaded it’s not about US it’s about AUSTRALIA 😡

[goaded]

@LaurenM1997 It's the comparison.

[LaurenM1997]

@goaded how would you feel if your family was in this position and then someone posted this pic? I think you’d be mad and upset too

[goaded]

@LaurenM1997 The Associated Press posted the image, not the OP. What do you think the perpetrator would have done with a gun?

[LaurenM1997]

@goaded they OP should have respect and not post this because this is upsetting to people

[LaurenM1997]

*The

[goaded]

@LaurenM1997 How many Aussies are on here? Again: what do you think the perpetrator would have done with a gun?

[LaurenM1997]

@goaded not killed people!

[LaurenM1997]

For no damm reason

[LaurenM1997]

It’s not just Aussies that are upset about this post it’s everyone who cares

[LaurenM1997]

About the families that’s been affected

[goaded]

@LaurenM1997 Sorry, you think the man who killed people with a knife wouldn't have killed people if he'd had a gun instead?

[LaurenM1997]

@goaded he would have

[LaurenM1997]

But it’s still the same thing doesn’t make it right doing that

[goaded]

@LaurenM1997 Who's saying it's right?

[LaurenM1997]

@goaded nobody but I’m saying its still not right on what happened it’s tragic

[OddBeMe]

@goaded she’s the nutter who got my account frozen last time. I blocked her.

[Dargil]

I own, as Hank Jr. says: A rifle, a shotgun and a 4 wheel drive. I also have 3 handguns. The AR is coming.

[LaurenM1997]

I don’t like this it’s disturbing and I think it’s disrespectful posting this picture too 😡

[LaurenM1997]

You are a sick fuck

[LaurenM1997]

You’ve been reported

[OddBeMe]

Don’t like basic news stories? Put your head in the sand.

[Anonymous]

Restricted is an understatement, they banned everything, we have done similar in the UK in stages and plenty of guns still turn up both illegal and originally legal but just long forgotten service revolvers and rifles

[goaded]

No, they didn't ban everything. Not even close. There are more legal firearms in Australia today than in 1996. (The population has expanded greatly, and regulations make it easier to own two firearms and leave one at the gun range.)

[Opinion Owner]

From what I've read you can't get a gun full stop in Australia without a criminal importing it

[Opinion Owner]

To be fair, I wouldn't trust someone with this century's swastika as a profile picture

[goaded]

So stupid.

[Opinion Owner]

But correct, the outsiders said much the same in the war and now they are nonagenarians and going on trial for war crimes

[Sevenpointfive]

if you can't aim then it seems like the appropriate weapon of choice

[DrPepper12]

This is extrapolating a cause n effect trend from one data point. It's not valid.

[goaded]

Would you prefer he'd had a gun?

[DrPepper12]

@goaded No I'd prefer if only highly trained, mentally fit LEOs had a monopoly on violence. I'd prefer if civilians weren't armed to the extent there's 7 guns for every man woman and child in USA America. I prefer if they left their weapons home for self-defense or sport instead of open carry an arsenal. I'd prefer if ammosexuals go fetishize their phalluses elsewhere.

[OddBeMe]

So what are you on me about? We agree. The more Americans see that gun crime isn’t common the better.

[Anonymous]

He targeted unarmed people. They always do.

[Opinion Owner]

A good example is when some thugs attacked hero Kyle rittenhouse and he protected himself