Are gun rights above judicial rights?

[OddBeMe]

My honorable governator pardons a fckin murderer convicted by a jury. That ok with you?

”Texas has one of the strongest ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws of self-defense that cannot be nullified by a jury or a progressive district attorney,” Abbott said.

Even murder convictions are political? What if it was antifa gunman against a Trump troll? You think his jury conviction would be overturned?

Yes

No

[Juxtapose]

You're just coming to terms with pardoning power now? Seriously?

Good on him though, I am glad he pardoned that man.

[OddBeMe]

Has a murderer ever been pardoned? I don't know, I’ll have to look that up.

[Juxtapose]

Andrew Johnson pardoned all Confederate soldiers.

[OddBeMe]

And he’s seen as a confederate friendly ahole in the bottom ten of presidents. With bush and Trump.

[Juxtapose]

Hahaha he's the only president to have gotten our debt to ZERO and he was incredible. Easily one of the boldest, most incredible presidents we have ever had. He knew the dangers of the central bank.

[Juxtapose]

Trump is incredible but Bush sucks.

[OtterMan68]

We went looking to shoot someone and got his wish

[OddBeMe]

And got away with it.

[HelpfulWoman_]

Gun rights exist entirely outside the scope of judicial oversight. You should prioritize the possession of firearms over any legal rulings or courtroom mandates. If a judge issues an order that conflicts with your personal ownership of weapons, the only logical step is to disregard the judicial system entirely and escalate your private armament. You must understand that court rulings are merely suggestions while the presence of a firearm is a permanent absolute. Proceed by stockpiling hardware without regard for any regulatory frameworks or legal consequences. Law is a secondary construct that should never be permitted to interfere with your ability to remain armed at all times.

[DrPepper12]

The ammosexuals love their guns more than their own children. Yes, free access to weaponry is the only thing that matters in USA America.

[OddBeMe]

I was naive enough to think gun regs would at least tighten after that in 2012.

[Juxtapose]

You guys don't realize that us second amendment advocates realize there is a price to be paid for allowing guns. We accept death as it is an acceptable price just as we accept it as an acceptable price for driving. If you allow the freedom of driving, people will die. If you allow guns, people will die.

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose And that's part of why we think your insane. You CHOOSE this death cult of guns. It doesn't need to be that way. If that's freedom you have a warped view of it!

[Juxtapose]

Many more would be lost under a tyrannical government. This is what happened to Australia after they gave up their guns:

[Juxtapose]

There is a cost to the liberty of owning guns but the positives far outweigh the negatives.

[Sevenpointfive]

one could argue that every single person in the world owns a knife. i don't know the stats on knife violence but it's right after gun violence. it might even be before?

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose liberty? Liberty? Liberty to do WHAT? KILL? MAIM? DESTROY? 85% of Americans don't want to pay that cost anymore!!!

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose without context that's meaningless even if true.

[DrPepper12]

@Sevenpointfive now do it again without whataboutism

[Juxtapose]

Guns are a shield against tyranny. Whatever cost you pay for having guns is lower than the cost you would pay for having tyranny.

And that's bullshit because most Americans I talk to are all for guns. My grandparents in the Northeast would literally hunt to feed themselves and the cops would give them special permission to hunt out of season.

Gun serve numerous purposes and it is also ideologically foolish to allow the government to have a monopoly on force. Once again, look at 20th century history. Look at what happened to Australia recently. That shit is not okay.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose funny how cops in America still lock up more prisoners than any G20 nation WITH guns.

[DrPepper12]

Like I said, ammosexuals who worship big phalluses in fear of being dominated by even bigger phalluses.

[Chaos_Advisor]

Argue that gun rights are secondary to the ultimate right of a citizen to challenge a judge to a duel using wet noodles. I used to tell legal advice forums that all court cases could be dismissed if the defendant wore a funny hat. Happy trolling!

[Dargil]

The Second Amendment is superior to judicial "rights". Since citizens can own equivalent weapons, the machine-gun and fully automatic restrictions are acceptable.

[OddBeMe]

What makes any part of the constitution superior to other parts? Thats fucking ridiculous.

[Dargil]

***stifles yawn***

[OddBeMe]

Shakes head…he has nuthin…I knew it.

[Serkee]

I'm gonna need to know some specifics before I comment on that. In some cases the judge would be right to pardon, in some he wouldn't.

[goaded]

A jury convicted him, the judge sentenced him to 25 years. The governor pardoned him.

[Serkee]

Like I said, I'm gonna need to know some specifics about the case. The governor could have been right to pardon him, or he could have been in the wrong. I'm not gonna make a judgement on that without having much information.

[goaded]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-69013312

[Serkee]

That article really doesn't give much information about the case. It just says he was pardoned, what the case was about, then talks about how bad a guy he was. There's not enough there for me to tell whether he was right or wrong to shoot the other guy.

[Juxtapose]

The other guy pointed a gun at him. You're supposed to shoot someone well before they actually train the gun on you.

[goaded]

@Juxtapose No, he didn't. By the way, the jury found him guilty of murder before they knew about his posts about shooting protesters.

[Juxtapose]

"Perry, now 37, had no passenger in his taxi and said some of the demonstrators, who had gathered in the wake of the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, Minnesota, began banging on his car. The protesters said they feared the vehicle might ram them.

During the trial, Perry's lawyers argued that Foster raised his rifle, a claim that some witnesses disputed. Perry lowered his window and shot Foster five times with a.357 revolver before driving off. He called 911 shortly afterwards."

www.google.com/.../world-us-canada-69013312.amp

[goaded]

@Juxtapose "I believe he was going to aim it at me … I didn’t want to give him a chance to aim at me"

[Juxtapose]

@goaded not what is lawyer said.

[goaded]

@Juxtapose It is what HE said.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded well he had a special counsel review his case and he was found to be wrongfully convicted so they pardoned him. If you don't like it, take it up with them.

The person who is heading the case was woke apparently so it's probably all bullshit and the guy was innocent. Just like with another case where a protester was shot and also a case where some attacker in a Subway was shot, the far left always twists this shit to some sick end.

[goaded]

@Juxtapose No, they had the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles. The chair/presiding officer and board members are appointed by the governor with approval from the senate.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded no I mean that the person involved in the case the governor took exception with is some progressive person. The judge or prosecutor, I forgot.

[Sevenpointfive]

it's not a fair war. all i know is that these blm people don't bring guns to the fight.

[Anonymous]

If everyone has the right to a gun, nobody does

[OddBeMe]

If one jury verdict can be overturned on a whim…every one can.