Do you believe the rise of feminism is the fault of women and not of men?

[SolitarySolace]

The rise of feminism is the fault of WOMEN, not men - https://youtu.be/FOxK_zJFIpQ?si=5j_q1B_yVqP5slGu

Yes, it is the fault of women

No, the need for feminism is the fault of men

[CalmUntilAbused]

First of all, there is no need for feminism. So obviously, the need for feminism cannot be the fault of men, sincd it doesn't exist. However, the rise of feminism itself can be attributed to men. Just not men in general, but a very specific group of men in power in the twentieth century who started the two world wars and their successors. The thing is, with this many casualties on both sides and neither of these sides willing to accept defeat, the men were desperately needed on the frontlines, thus no longer being able to man the factories. Therefore, women had to be brought in to the factories instead. Then, after both wars, those women felt that they have done enough to prove being responsible enough to be trusted with the right to vote (which, in case of those women who did volunteer to work in these factories, was absolutely correct). All those other rights the modern feminists love to rant about were already basically given to women even before they got the right to vote. They were not enforced by any laws, but few men were considering women to be inferior to themselves at this point anyway, proven by the fact the women were free to work if they could find someone to hire them (and mind You, that conditional clause also works for men, it's just that few people notice it in the first place). However, while those responsible women did deserve that very specific right, it by no means applied to women in general. The problem is what women value the most is security. Now, men have easily provided that for millenia, but once women in general and not just the responsible ones got the right to vote, some men in particular - the men in power - figured out that if they as much as promised to increase state-sanctioned security, they will have just about half of the population on their side. Given that they have their own families with the right to vote, that pretty much allows them to secure the power for themselves for as long as they don't mess something up so badly that the ratio of responsible women rises. Also, they can easily implement the "divide and conquer" policy once men start to realise how much endagered by the latest policies they are, leading to thr general public further preferring security over freedom. Luckily, the men in power have become so prideful that they began to slip up at times, which might finally lead to their "democratic" empires falling apart. Thus, there are only two ways to shift the blame for the rise of feminism - to the satan himself or to the men in power (though most of the latter are somewhat of satan's serfs anyway).

[blueonblack22]

Good question. It’s actually the fault of men. Reason being we enabled this bullshit. We actually built a modern society that enables women to have freedom. We gave them their “freedom” They didn’t “earn” it no matter how much they want to delude themselves otherwise.

I think some early generations of men meant well. I personally could of got behind 19th amendment to let women vote in 1919. I can get behind women getting out of divorces with wife beaters. I can get behind women obtaining jobs in male dominated industries as long as they are truly qualified to do so.

But as with most things “revolutionary” it’s not about obtaining right but the “feeling” of being in a revolution for feminists.

A perfect recent example is how modern feminists have absolutely outdid themselves by being “pro-Palestine”. I mean they fell off the Down syndrome tree and lost a chromosome for every branch they hit with this recent development.

Now they are supporting radical Islamist terrorists. If they suddenly found themselves in the Gaza Strip they would be beaten, raped, thrown into burkas, forced into marriage and into a life long servitude to men. Seriously this is how incredibly retarded modern feminism has become in current times.

***DISCLAIMER: I hate using Down syndrome analogies. Because it’s insulting to real life Down syndrome people to be compared to modern feminists. Reason being is real life Down syndrome people are actually a lot smarter then modern feminists. At least they wouldn’t support a cause that wants to enslave and rape them. I’m completely serious.

[CrabCakes11]

If men weren’t oppressing women, there wouldn’t be a need for feminism

[normalice]

Obviously not. Though maybe not the fault of men either, per se. A male centric world made a lot of sense when it was all hunting and gathering. But in modern times it doesn't make any sense. It's just that 8 billion people is a large ship to turn and so the pace is slower than what some might consider acceptable in the absence of any clear reason to be reluctant.

[Dongie]

All evil comes from the source of evil. Feminism began the day the apple was eaten.
How's that?

[BeetleBro2000]

The rise, or the need? Those seem distinct.

[msc545]

It is clearly the fualt of women...

[CrabCakes11]

Whose fault is your spelling? Was it your mom for dropping you so much as a baby?