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The Dems have brought America down. Change my mind, if you can.

NaultD · Accepted Answer

You do understand USA as a country is relatively new in the grand scheme of things but our government and constitution is one of the oldest standing government alive?

We did that by fighting for our rights against the god appointed king of England. We wanted to election and we elect George Washington. In an era of democracy was enviable too progressive. The whole point of the united states of America was a grand experiment of freedom and progressive growth. The only way THE United States of America experience or expermant can die is if we rest on our laurels. That means we ultimately dismiss the future responsibilities in a changing world. A changing population, just refusing to be human honestly.

DJB72 · Accepted Answer

Sounds right.

The UK can go one better though. It doesn't matter how you vote, they fuck everyone for their own enrichment. The only difference is what colour tie they're wearing while they campaign.

Old Guido may have been onto something

Vampirelover_12 · Accepted Answer

The guy who "destroyed trust in vaccines" had his medical license revoked. He was also ableist by saying that vaccines cause autism. Empty head.

nightdrot · Answer

It's a bit overstated. The Democrats, after all, were the party that won two world wars. No small thing. They are also the party that calmed the nation - whatever you think of the policies - during the Great Depression. These were no small things and grant they do not speak to the current party.

However, that is the problem with the premise of the question. American political parties are not ideological parties as you tend to see in Europe. Rather they are lose knit coalitions of regional, religious, ethnic, racial, income and other groups that have come together in part by common interests and in part by historical accident.

In the case of the GOP, it is a coalition made up of classical liberals - which Americans call conservatives - libertarians, small and medium sized business, religious and social traditionalists, lower middle and upper middle income earners, farmers, rural and exurban populations, and historically older voters. It tends to dominate the South, the Great Plains, the Rocky Mountain West and the state of Alaska - though this is starting to change somewhat.

On the Democratic side you get, ethnic and religious minorities, middle and high income wage earners, big business and entertainment industries, urban and inner suburban votes, radical liberals - which Americans call liberals. (Note, the term "radical" here does not mean as Americans use it, i. e. "extremist," but rather as the ancient Greeks used the term, meaning "to the root of.") The regions where it is dominant are northeast, the mid-Atlantic, the Pacific coast and the state of Hawaii. (Though again, this is starting to change and is one of the reasons that Mrs. Clinton was defeated in 2016.)

This is how you get a Republican Party that runs from Ted Cruz at one end to Susan Collins at the other, with the libertarian Rand Paul thrown into the mix. This is how you get a Democratic Party that runs from Joe Manchin at one end to Elizabeth Warren at the other. Quite simply, party identification is not about ideological identity.

This being even more complicated by the fact that both parties are experiencing a populist phase as happened in the late 19th century and again in the 1960s and 70s. Populism not being a schematic philosophy, but rather a cultural attitude characterized by distrust of complexity, a disdain for elites, and a belief that the common man is the font of all virtue but that he is oppressed by the elites and the "special interests." This manifesting itself in a mishmash of policies that are more often related by sentiment than any coherent overarching theoretical structure.

Thus former President Trump in the GOP. He is NOT a conservative. Thus the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in the Democratic party. She is not a liberal nor a socialist. Rather both appeal to feelings of envy and resentment in the electorate and toss out random policies to appease those sentiments.

For my part, I am conservative, but I put an asterisk over it. My conservatism is not what Americans typically call conservative. Because, as noted, what Americans call conservative is, historically speaking, not conservatism at all but is, rather, classical liberalism. Albeit with a streak of social traditionalism rooted in the Protestant Reformation.

My conservatism, which is classical or Tory conservatism, traces its intellectual pedigree through Aristotle, St. Thomas Aquinas, the 18th century British statesman and political philosopher, Edmund Burke, and also the British Prime Ministers Benjamin Disraeli and Lord Salisbury.

Classical conservatives emphasize the nurturing of civic virtue, see free markets as a tool as opposed to the end purpose of government, and believe that politics should take its bearings not from human reason, but human nature. As Burke said, "The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do what they please. We ought see what it will please them to do before we risk congratulations."

There is much more to it, but this summarizes it. The bottom line being that whatever you may say of either party is more apt to be true for a passing moment in time then part of any enduring reality.

MacDaddyRico · Answer

BOTH parties work to destroy our country for their Zionist masters.

Research Prescott Bush and how he helped financed Nazi Hitler... Yes, Prescott was George H. W. Bush's father.

The Bush Dynasty was involved in the assassination of JFK as well as 9/11.

The two-party system is rigged, and both parties are controlled by Zionists.

Nice222 · Answer

Both parties have brought it down. Truth is it’s been over for decades. No matter who wins in November, this country is in for many years of very rough times.
Please make sure you and your loved one are prepared for what is coming, it is going to be bad.

Massageman · Answer

Just boiled it down to the short list, huh? Yup- that's about right.

Surely · Answer

I am sure that there are a few things that you missed!

Danzigdawson · Answer

This has to be the dumbest take ever. Change my mind.

goaded · Answer

I can't change your mind. You're wrong, but I won't be able to change your mind.

exitseven · Answer

Yes except they have not destroyed the Constitution. They just peed all over it.

motownplayer2000 · Answer

The Repubs.. like the dems are two sides of the same coin and will also ruin America. Change my mind.

In_Trance · Answer

No it doesn't

Snakeyes7 · Answer

The democrats are playing a major role in the destruction of this country but most of the republicans either join them, enable them or barely show any effort in opposing them.

Likes2drive · Answer

You got that right

noCryHONEY · Answer

this sucks so much, a right

Jerre · Answer

Yes, all sounds. Correct.

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