Will Biden follow the supreme court’s lead and become King Biden?

[coachTanthony]

[Anonymous]

That is not what SCOTUS said, in fact what SCOTUS said is really just restating what has been true since Day one, and its known as Sovereign immunity, its true not simply of the President but your State Governor too.

It does not protect the said leaders from unofficial acts, nor did SCOTUS even define what was or was not official merely that it is possible acts can be Official and therefore legitimate. Which is really kind of saying nothing at all, beyond rejecting the idea proposed by the lower courts that nothing is official.


Basically the point is you can't sue the president for carrying out his constitutionally protected duties simply because you disagree with him. You can sue his agents for carrign out unlawful orders thou, and they can't simply kill you without violating your due process rights.

This is why the Arkansas ATF raid of Bryan Malinowski is soo controversial as they basically set him up to be killed. If Biden had ordered it they should be charged and investigated but technically it would be Biden's agents not Biden himself. If Biden himself had gone out of his way to abuse such power then Joe Biden should be impeached. As Joe Biden;s own prosecutors would likewise be ordered not to go after him.

[OlderAndWiser]

All Hail, King Poopy Pants!

[Sabretooth]

Trump is literally known for shitting his diaper. so, you might wanna avoid going there.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sabretooth Why do you say that? Is it something you read in a tweet?

[Sabretooth]

personal accounts of those who've worked with him on the Apprentice. not to mention that image a few years ago that looks like Trump shitted his diaper. this ain't new stuff.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sabretooth I googled it and only found some guy tweeting it. As divisive and vitriolic as politics has become in this country, I don't accept anyone's word without some proof.

What I do know is the D-Day ceremony video looks like President Delaware Doo-doo Drawers shit his britches. Do you have some video of Trump doing that?

[Sabretooth]

https://youtu.be/N60ceYRlY2I?si=QwjRVhYR8j5M72ss . I don't exactly go looking for guys shitting their pants.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sabretooth Believe this guy - because I assume that you want to believe it to draw attention away from Joe Biden shitting his pants at Normandy, but I remember the world being aghast at Trump when the Clinton-financed report called "the Steele dossier" was released. We now know that those were just allegations put together by a paid political opposition researcher, and they could not be verified. And I remember the allegations made against Clarence Thomas when he was nominated to the US Supreme Court, as well as the allegations against other conservative nominees.

Some people will say anything that fits their narrative. . . truth be damned.

[Sabretooth]

lol. not everything is a damn conspiracy. did you work with them on the Apprentice? because I didn't. we all heard Trump ask Russia for help, we know that Putin admitted to helping Trump and we know that Trump as been very chummy with Putin -- even taking Putin's word over our own intelligence. Thomas is corrupt. he thinks so little of our laws that he he can just claim ignorance.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sabretooth There is no rational discussion with drinkers of the Kool-Aid.

[Sabretooth]

well, I mean... you're the one denying the facts that we've all seen and heard... so...

[Sabretooth]

hell, Trump literally suggested y'all drink bleach... and some of you idiot actually did it!

[Sabretooth]

idiot s

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sabretooth That's what you say.

[Sabretooth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAauiLx3AvQ www.usnews.com/.../did-americans-actually-drink-bleach-during-the-covid-19-pandemic ... though, none of us should be surprised... this happened way before: www.queerty.com/trump-supporter-shoots-groin-attempt-trigger-liberals-20200819 ... you people will literally do anything to own the liberals...

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sabretooth I didn't hear him tell people to drink bleach. I heard him suggest that the mechanism by which bleach kills viruses might be an avenue for research.

I am tired of hearing your partisan spin. Good night.

[Sabretooth]

really? because I could've sworn that he said that he was being sarcastic...

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sabretooth Are you deaf or just ill mannered? I said, "I am tired of hearing your partisan spin. Good night."

[OlderAndWiser]

Thanks for MHO!

[purplepoppy]

No, he's already having a great time. Best let him get it out his system, he'll soon tire himself out.

Aw sweet, he'll sleep tonight.

[Amandanator]

We all can’t wait until he is voted out. The White House will have a new king soon!

[legalboxers]

You mean like this?

[Amandanator]

We all know you miss low cost groceries and gas prices ;)

[Avicenna]

Well, that would be a violation of the Constitution and an impeachable offense. Would Democrats vote to acquit him once he's impeached? I sure hope not.

[Syntosi]

It was the SCOTUS that made him a king by "interpreting" the constitution though?

[Avicenna]

@Syntosi: How could a President be king if they're still subject to the impeachment process, can't give unlawful orders and is not immune for unofficial acts? Doesn't sound like an absolute ruler to any reasonable person.

In fact, much of the President's constitutionally-delegated power has actually been usurped from the President since at least 2017. Totally illegal. I don't see any hand wringing from you over that.

[Syntosi]

Are they still subject to the impeachment process if they can very realistically stop it at any moment they please? Also how can an order be considered unlawful if the president has automatic legal immunity?

I mean, the very argument that the president can't give "unlawful orders" is hilarious in the context of legal immunity since said immunity would only exist to cover explicit illegal acts, otherwise it would be legal anyways and not require extra protection. Legal immunity explicitly tells the president that they can give any "unlawful" order that they want.

[Avicenna]

@Syntosi: The impeachment process is part of the Constitution, so it's not possible for a President to stop it at any time.

It is possible to give unlawful orders, but the point of the SCOTUS ruling is that a President's political opponents can't simply prosecute them maliciously because they don't like the President or the President's lawful exercise of their executive powers. That is what is meant by legal immunity in this case.

It's a requirement to NOT follow an unlawful order (ever heard of the Nuremberg defense?).

[Syntosi]

Impeachment is a slow and cumbersome process that can be stopped by just preventing the vote from happening. Also you are assuming there will be anyone to prosecute anyone who follows the presidents orders, which is silly, especially since the president can just pardon them anyways or take over the judiciary as well.

Dictators does not play by your rules after all.

[Avicenna]

@Syntosi: How would a President lawfully "take over the judiciary"? So we're back to unlawful orders, which, again, the President does not have legal immunity for.

A President cannot stop impeachment- it's a process that is controlled by the House of Representatives. And as for "slow and cumbersome", it took ONE WEEK to impeach Trump in January 2021. But I suppose you'll say criminal prosecution won't be "slow and cumbersome"...

While it's true that a President's pardon power is very broad, it doesn't apply to cases of impeachment, or crimes at the state level. And there is a process to apply for a pardon.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Nah he was there to see what happened to the last king.

[AviatorTom]

Long Live the King? That's what Biden thinks SCOTUS said... they didn't.

The US already has My Country Tis of Thee sung to the same tune as God Save the King ... it would be an easy transition.

[exitseven]

He is probably sitting on a different kind of throne.

[Dongie]

Shouldn't he be dead yet. I thought dementia was terminal. It killed Nick Barkley, Peter Breck. About 81 he was.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

you think an incompetent loser who cheated his way to become president is capable of becoming a king?

[Danzigdawson]

You never were president, as far as I know.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Danzigdawson and your point? if I was president the probability of us having these problems will be closed to zero by the way

[Danzigdawson]

I thought you were talking about yourself.

[Danzigdawson]

... using the words "incompetent loser".

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Danzigdawson that makes no fucking sense. but whatever helps you sleep at night

[Danzigdawson]

Wishful thinking, as always.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Danzigdawson clearly my post wasn't about YOU either. yet for some odd reason me using the words "incompetent loser" not only caught your attention but inspired you to jump on my post with a whiny and recentful attitude as well.

so you sure it wasn't the other way around? that perhaps the words "incompetent loser" reminded you of yourself? hence why you are again here being all defensive about it?

[Danzigdawson]

It sure was recentful. That's for sure.

[hahahmm]

Maybe but that would just expose the fact that we are in a dictatorship & not everybody is okay with that. Some might have been okay when it was hidden but not when it's in your face.

[Fireguy17]

Good luck with that.
That would take a constitutional change and before that would ever happen he would be worm chow.
Plus that is why we became a democracy in the first place.

[worldscolide]

I doubt he will live that long.

[coachTanthony]

🤣🤣🤣

[adventurous-1]

I don't see this happening as Biden is old fashioned and believes in the constatation and the law with a moral conscience to guide him.

[adventurous-1]

sorry, constitution rather than constatation darn auto spell!

[Twalli]

No, because unlike Trump he respects the country's laws. Biden could gave Trump assassinated and would be immune from prosecution for it, but he won't because it should be illegal.

[legalboxers]

This is more apt

[handsomelad70]

King of what? The nursing home Dr. Biden should send him to live?

[Massageman]

Emperor's new clothes? lol

[DaBiggestBird]

If that happens he’ll end up like King Louis XVI

[Theodoricus]

Yes, Biden the Terrible.

[Wiredone]

Sure hope not

[Sabretooth]

he wears it well.

[Sabretooth]

He blocked me. "Maybe a little ill-mannered... Though, that's not really an issue as Trump supporters have no issues with Trump's lack of manners... They relish in it. Besides, it's hardly a partisan spin when you're only repeating what he said. why is it that the Democrats are worried about Biden's debate performance, yet, Trump can praise a fictional cannibal and go on about boats and sharks and you guys cheer?"

[Sabretooth]

you blocked me, OlderAndWiser.

[Anonymous]

Poor Jill. Biden doesn't care.

[impalabill77]

No he won't but trump will.