Is censorship the only way the woke left can win?

[DarkLegacy]

They seem to find a way to censor and ban anything they do not agree with. Do you agree?

Yes

No

[sawno]

Yes because the ideas don't have merrit. The more annoying issue is how extremely difficult it is to find back right wing evidence. It tends to be scrubbed and replaced with articles falsely claiming the left is right where if you read the whole article it says between the lines that the right is correct. It makes online debates very difficult because you for example have your information from a 3 hour in depth analysis video from 3 weeks ago and thats not something you can find back easily.

[goaded]

What censorship?

Is lying and breaking the law the only way the right can win?

Just look at how many people around Trump are or have been felons, including himself.

They're still spreading the lie that 2020 was stolen, Giuliani is the latest of Trump's lawyers to be disbarred for making ""demonstrably false and misleading statements" to courts, lawmakers and the public in his capacity as Trump's lawyer. "These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent's narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client," the court said, referring to Trump." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckkg36614rzo

[OlderAndWiser]

It seems that the Democrats have unwittingly guaranteed a Trump landslide in November.

[DarkLegacy]

Here in the UK it is the other way round. God help the UK

[ChinaGrove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBhy_vlgKS4

[handsomelad70]

Starmer will try to help the UK recover from the Tories' Brexit.

[sawno]

@DarkLegacy Demand the voting system to be fixed. What happened in your country is a good thing but its not immediately visible due to a very broken voting system. If this result happened in my country both reform and the tories would have been very big and combined they would then be able to form a coalition majority. The fact reform is the third largest party but due to the system they only get 5 seats is redicilous.

So know where this is going wrong and demand solutions. Otherwise it won't be a conservative system until people know to vote reform on mass. They have proven a capable party and next election its feasible for them to win.

[DarkLegacy]

@sawno Nope the voting system works well here, otherwise we would always have coalitions and nobody wants that

[sawno]

Enjoy labor then, if you don't want to address the flaws you will never be able to get proper reform done.

[Jindadi]

Hahaha every time I read it or hear it "the woke left" it gets more and more ridiculous. I think both sides need to get and stay woke. Woke being the opposite of sleeping, it was never used the way it's being used. Someone where I am from wou say "it's getting crazy in these streets stay woke bruh. Or these lames trying to jack our lingo B, you peep that? Fa sho, fa sho shits wack as fuck, and you know this, man. I'm out, stay woke cuz

[Danzigdawson]

Remember all the books that the "woke left" had banned in Florida under DeSantis?

Wait... Was it the woke left, or the fascist christian right, which, of course, is well-known for its exemplary tolerance?

[DarkLegacy]

I don't know about that i live in the UK and anything British including books, tv shows the woke try and ban by saying that it is racist

[Anonymous]

no it's not the only way

indoctrination and brainwashing is another way they can win

they just need to control our politicians, our entertainment, our academia and our media to subjugate the masses with repeated lies until those lies become normalized into the truth

[Sasahara]

If they fail to bully someone into submission first, yes.

@OhLongJohnsoning If he ment the Right he would have written so. But I take it you belive if someonesays something is woke and use that term as a good thing they mean the supposedly good woke thing is Right leaning. Or you can just let this asker mean the left, as he wrote it.

[normalice]

They don't, really. For one thing the lefts influence over the media is pretty much negligible. For another what is typically banned is scams its just to be right wing is to scam for power, since no one wants to give it to you otherwise.

[nolabels]

There's no need to be concerned.

"Woke" is well on its way "out".

Those who stand on nothing but thin air, soon find themselves falling, hard and fast.

[handsomelad70]

Hopefully, Fascism isn't on its way in.

[HawkPerception]

It really is a sad state in society where the majority don't have any freedom of speech, but the minority (the mentally ill population) are allowed to have the loudest voices.

[Avicenna]

It's only one of these Bolsheviks' tools of oppression. Some of them are now calling for assassinations and mass arrests (having political prisoners isn't enough for these evil scum).

[Danzigdawson]

You sound like Goebbels.

[Avicenna]

@Danzigdawson: You need to take your meds- going without them causes you to hallucinate. And good job of putting your foot in your mouth- I'm a Jew who is a descendant of people persecuted by Goebbels.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna And yet, that doesn't prevent you from using an historically-charged, obsolete term like "bolshevik", which was used by the nazis to such extent that it almost became a proprietary word.

[Avicenna]

@Danzigdawson: Well, the Nazis did and said a lot of things, including breathing air and eating vegetables (Hitler was a vegetarian). I'm not going to stop breathing air and eating vegetables just because they did. They also used the German language, and I don't think anyone in their right mind would suggest doing away with it just because it was the language the Nazis used.

But let's take a look at what Bolsheviks were- they were extremists who established a totalitarian form of government and wanted to do away with capitalism and private property. That accurately describes the far left, which your profile and inane comments indicate you are a member of.

Propaganda and censorship are part of being a totalitarian leftist, but you can go to hell if you think you can tell someone else they have to adopt your speech codes.

[Danzigdawson]

Hitler being a vegetarian and breathing wasn't a part of nazi deology. Vile propaganda which associated Jews and bolshevism, and Judaism with, basically, everything that's evil in the world, was. Censoring what they saw as decadent art, books and music also was; as was demonizing everything on the left, and by everything, it don't just mean the far-left.

Being a Jew who's a descendant of people who were persecuted during the Holocaust doesn't automatically make you immune to having more of Goebbels' worldview than that of those who resisted or became victims of nazism.

[Danzigdawson]

That's why you fail.

[Avicenna]

@Danzigdawson: The only fail here is yours. As anyone can see, mentioning Bolshevism when talking about a totalitarian ideology that shares the goals of Bolsheviks does not make someone a Nazi, which is what you're claiming. Furthermore, I obviously have made no association between Bolshevism and Jews (if you've been on GAG longer than one second you know I stand against anti-Semitism regardless of who spews it).

And it is you that has continued to falsely associate mention and criticism of the totalitarian ideology of Bolshevism with Nazism in an attempt to censor it. So I have to ask you- do you think Bolshevism was a bad thing? And if you do, why would criticizing it make it in your view someone a Nazi who "shares the worldview of Goebbels"?

Finally, could you summarize what you mean by "Goebbels' worldview"?

[Avicenna]

Just for the benefit of others reading this, here is an excerpt from Danzig's "About Me":

"I fucking hate fascists, misogynistic assholes, the alt-right, deep south christian freaks and most conservatives."

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna It's available for all to see, idiot. My profile isn't private. Do you like fascists, misogynistic assholes, the alt-right and christian freaks?

[Avicenna]

@Danzigdawson: Answer the questions I posed to you rather than throwing out more strawmen that are going to end up burning you. Or are you scared to answer them?

Do you like Bolsheviks and other Communists like the CCP, adherents of the Kim dynasty in North Korea, Pol Pot, Islamic extremists like ISIS and Hamas and misandrist assholes? You didn't list any of those, so you must love them.

And I'm not so sure you actually are opposed to the Nazis- you're a totalitarian and Danzig was what Gdansk was called during the Nazi era.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna The Goebbels (nazi) worldview is as follows: a scapegoat (in his case the Jews) has formed a malicious alliance with the far-left to make the once proud and rigidly conservative Germany lose the first world war (ref. to the German Revolution of 1918-1919), since everyone believed that Germany couldn't lose on the battlefield, even if it did.

Said scapegoat is therefore responsible for all the woes of the country and of the world. Hence, that scapegoat is deserving of hatred and scorn. It is to be crushed, annihilated, since it is scum. Its very presence, combined with the lack of control that the Weimar republic had over them, is in itself harmful. They need to be rounded up, controlled and dealt with if germany wants to prosper. They are foreign, decadent and basically opposed to everything glorious tradition and being german stands for.

The nazis associated Judaism with the left. They thought that socialism and communism were weak ideologies which were in direct contradiction with their belief in social darwinism, racial superiority, self-determination and the "triumph of the will". They thought that communism was a decadent and weak system for reasons such as allowing women to serve as combattants in the army. The nazis were firmly conservative and thought that the best and only role for a woman was to be a good and inspiring, national-socialist mother.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna They were opposed to the left (communism, socialism, trade unions and the like), to providing any kind of assistance to the "weak". They were determined to get rid of people who were considered to be a burden to or an enemy of the state, deficient or "anormal", such as homosexuals, transgender people, cross-dressers, the mentally ill, the handicapped, socialists, communists, intellectuals, Poles, Slavs, Romanis, Jehovah's witnesses, Spanish Republicans, Slovenes, freemasons and Serbs.

In their minds, all of those people contributed in one way or another to the destruction of order and german society, with their perceived decadent, immoral and anti-traditional views of the world.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna Of course, you doofuses always asume that we have a hard-on for bolshevism and the USSR at large? I believe that Russia was always governed by a dictatorial regime, were it the Czars, the Bolsheviks, the Communists and now Putin's oligarchic far-right, conservative regime. Same oppression, slightly different flavor.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna Also, it realllllly doesn't take much for you to feel like you're "censored", huh? Aren't we supposed to be the sensitive, easily-triggered ones? You post your opinion and I reply. That's called freedom of speech. It's not there just for you.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna do you know the name and definition of any other logical fallacies?

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna I answered your stupid, feeble remarks. Now, do you like fascists, misogynistic assholes, the alt-right, deep south christian freaks and most conservatives?

I'll give you that conservatives is a bit of an exageration. There still exist decent conservatives who value democracy. And when I say christian freaks, i refer to the christian right at its worst, who wants to make christianity an integral part of politics AND to extremists like the Westboro Baptist Church.

[Danzigdawson]

@The danzig in my name is a reference to Glenn Danzig, singer of the Misfits and the band Danzig.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna "Do you like Bolsheviks and other Communists like the CCP, adherents of the Kim dynasty in North Korea, Pol Pot, Islamic extremists like ISIS and Hamas and misandrist assholes? You didn't list any of those, so you must love them".

Oh my fucking god. What an idiot you are.

[exitseven]

no but it is one of the ways that they will try to cheat. Mail in ballots, illegal aliens voting, election interference, lawfare and maybe an assassination are all in the democrat playbook,

[handsomelad70]

The woke left, the comatose right... same to this ol' boy !!!

[OtterMan68]

who's banning books from schools and public libraries? it's not the left.

[DarkLegacy]

Here in the UK it is. And tv shows and even street names

[ChinaGrove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBhy_vlgKS4
Great for children.

[OtterMan68]

@ChinaGrove who should decide what books are put in libraries then?

[ChinaGrove]

You. Do you want young children to read that book. Cowboy-up and own it.

[OtterMan68]

@ChinaGrove So I should be in charge? Why me? I'm just one person, and I've never taught elementary school

[ChinaGrove]

Do you want your toddlers to learn about anal sex?

[OtterMan68]

@ChinaGrove that book was in a library toddlers had access to? They can read on that level? Wow! What school for genius is that?

[ChinaGrove]

Do you want it in libraries. Own up and be a man.

[OtterMan68]

@ChinaGrove I'll leave it up to librarians and parents. Parents should be involved in their children's education and ask their kids what they're checking out of the library

[ChinaGrove]

You couldn't answer.

[OtterMan68]

@ChinaGrove you gave me control, and I passed it on to librarians and parents.

[ChinaGrove]

I just asked the question, so let's see what people with brains think.

[OddBeMe]

God no.


Let the damn right wing fly their confederate flags and put up their 10 Commandment monuments in schools.


No better way to create a leftist.

[JohnanEriva]

The one that is not a big deal is the one that is true

[Dongie]

I have right fuvckin say something
Can
Fuck it all if you. can

[Astarlessnightsky]

Usually its the facists who ban stuff.

[Jennz6]

That would make us like them

[OhLongJohnsoning]

You mean the right.

Do you know how many books, the right is trying to ban

[DarkLegacy]

LMFAO!!!

[OhLongJohnsoning]

Just sayin'

[Sasahara]

If he went the Right he would have written Right.

[OhLongJohnsoning]

@Sasahara he meant to

[Anonymous]

The left is comparable to an unwiped ass hole.