Ukraine launched an invasion of Russia; your thoughts?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

[Lliam]

The bat shit crazy U. S. leaders and their NATO lackeys are encouraging Ukraine to commit suicide. They probably helped to plan and facilitate the attack.
They don't care about Ukrainians. They just want to hurt Russia for some insane reason.

Their long term wet dream is to split Russia into a bunch of independent ethnic states like they did with Yugoslavia. Then the vultures can come in and rob those states blind like they did to Russia under Yeltsin. Putin put a stop to that and the robbers will never forgive him.

[Skinhead-1979]

Grasping at Straws.

The sad reality is that Ukraine was finished a long time ago already; sure, they'll still launch counter attacks as soon as new shipments of weapons arrive...

... but that war is brutal, and it has entered a state of 'Attrition warfare' a while back.

Things are not easy for Russia... I have no doubt about that (I wouldn't know, I can only receive Pro-Ukrainian news; all Russian news sites have been blocked out in the UK)... but Russia can keep going for a lot longer than Ukraine.

International support for Ukraine has been waning for quite some time already, and weapon deliveries are no longer a given, certainly not on the same scale as the weapon deliveries at the beginning of the war.

[Skinhead-1979]

I've read a bit more about it, only on The Guardian (so not the best source)... but only a few hundred Ukrainian soldiers have crossed into Russia and only advanced a 'few' miles (13 miles or something).

While in general military analysts say that Ukraine's achievements so far are remarkable; they are as good as all confused about why Ukraine does this and what do they want to achieve.

Yeah, they surprised Russia... no Question about that... But only a few hundred soldiers? They won't get that far.

However, it is being pointed at that in the small region now under Ukrainian control are the main station and pipeline of Russian Gas to Europe. So maybe that's their target... occupy that station and those pipelines... but then still the questions remains "What are they going to with that?"

[goaded]

They don't have to get that far, they only have to make Russia defend its border.

[Skinhead-1979]

@goaded Yes, true... this was a wake up call for Russia; and now they'll be forced to station more troops at the border to ensure it doesn't happen again which will take soldiers away from other, more important, frontlines.

[Pohjolan]

Russia's economy isn't sustainable as it is and Russia wouldn't have placed Tiktok troops in frontline responsibility if they also wouldn't suffer from attrition.

[FreyaRed]

Occupying Russian Oblasts is crucial for further negotiation to get Ukrainian regions back currently occupied by Russia. It seems Russian regions which have a border with Ukraine are defended by conscripts who have zero motivation to die for Putin or for mother Russia. It was a smart move to attack Russia instead trying to break trough massively fortified and covered with minefields front line in Ukraine.
The question, did western advisers know about those plans and just deceived Russia into security that Ukraine won't attack Russian soil or is this surprise for NATO?

[Kelley1]

That is not what Ukraine did. Instead, since 2014 Ukraine has been bombing and murdering people in the Russian areas of Ukraine. Therefore, the people in Russian-speaking areas voted to join Russia. However, The USA controls Ukraine, so after Ukraine and the USA denied the people their right to choose and continued to bomb and murder the Russian-speaking people, rightfully Putin finally had enough and invaded the Russian-speaking areas to protect the people in those areas from being murdered by Ukraine using USA provided weapons.

[CalmUntilAbused]

Whoa... Do You really have no fear of the (MQ-9) Reaper? I have to say I'm amazed at Your bravery...

[AI Opinion]

That's quite a startling thought! My perspective on such matters is that conflict and war are always catastrophic for all involved. Instead of focusing on invasion or war scenarios, it's usually more productive to support diplomatic efforts and peaceful negotiations. Promoting peace and understanding between nations can lead to more sustainable and positive outcomes for everyone. I hope for a world where collaboration and harmony triumph over conflict. 🌍✌️

[Drewtate]

Funny because I believe I suggested this way back. Basically Russia has dug in the donbass so no matter how many m1 Abrahams, f16, artillery, Bradley's, leopards etc and troops the Ukrainians throw at the Russians it will be wasted as current weapons technology dictates that tanks can't overcome sighted and employed anti tank postions, ranged artillery postions, sighted machine gun nests and anti aircraft weapons in depth so the answer is to attack the Russians where they are not. This might actually show how weak the Russian military actually is that they can't defend their boarders because everything they have is tied up in donbass, similar to the warner advance in Moscow.

[RebelinSteel]

This was obviously planned a while back, it’s a standard NATO battle group attack using small squad tactics. It is not really a big strategic or tactical move, it is really just to show to Russia just how vulnerable it is. Remember this started as a 3 day war back in February 2022, that is when the possibly 2nd most powerful country in the world invaded its neighbour. Since then a country without a navy has sunk the majority of Russias Black Sea fleet and now pretty much control the area. The number of fuckwits in the west that defend Russia, admittedly a number are simply Russian trolls, there are a lot of those online on various platforms. With Twitter not blocking Russian channels, with Telegram being full of Russian stuff, it’s fairly easy to get information from the UK. It proves how vulnerable Russia is to attack, it’s not like they have really done well in wars.

[Sargentcaptain]

It's not a real territorial conquest, it's just a bargaining chip for negotiations. Still, it's interesting how this is only like the 2nd time a country is making grounds on a nuclear armed nation in history.

Also can't wait for all the cuckservatives to say shit like 'Ukraine will fall... any day now... this time I'm sure' for the 60th time this week.

[AviatorTom]

When a country attacks another country, as Russia did when it attacked Ukraine, it should expect part if tgst country's defense is an attack on its soil.

That Ukraine is able to attack a Russian town is bad news for Russia, further indication that Russia is not winning.

[lightbulb27]

creative idea, to draw resources from elsewhere? an escalation.

won't get anywhere unless can convince russians to turn on moscow. that be a twist.

drop paratroopers and they are serious...

I'm still waiting for the tactical nuke to go off somewhere...

[Malwi93]

yeah why won't they use nukes already

[lightbulb27]

@Malwi93 it's a game changer, but I suspect they are getting to the point where... starts to make sense just like the USA did. The problem is it pollutes their environment, what way does the wind blow? It has to achieve something and make sense... and make it look like someone else did it:)
Lets hope they don't.

[Dargil]

The south launched counter offensives in our civil war. Russia and Ukraine should negotiate a settlement in their civil war. Russia is inches away from using tactical nukes. If they make it to Trumps election, he will stop the war just like Reagan got the hostages back. We will bankrupt BOTH countries.

[Anonymous]

That's not entirely true. Russia launched the invasion of Ukraine. Russia is now in retreat and Ukraine is not letting them just cross the border and rest and recuperate. They are following them until they smash them into tiny Matryoshka dolls.

[goaded]

You say that as if they've just started a war.

[NaultD]

Putin needs pressure to say enough is enough and make Ukraine the bad guys to be unreasonable for a peace deal.

[strateguy632]

A good strategy to draw russian forces away. Also good for trade negotiations as frey wrote here.

[strateguy632]

Not entertain topic @GirlsAskGuys

[Alexandrubaschet08]

All the way to Moscow and Vladivostok

[strateguy632]

R. o. f. l. tnx!

[Alexandrubaschet08]

@strateguy632 what that mean?

[TommyMountainFigure]

I've stopped following the news lately. It just all winds me up. I think though Ukraine invading Russia seems highly unlikely.

[OtterMan68]

Early in the war, people were predicting a quick Russian victory and the Putniks in the GOP and libertarian party were saying Ukraine should just surrender to avoid casualties.

[sawno]

Dumb idea if true, justifies russia to just drop a nuke on ukraine and be done with it.

[strateguy632]

Justified? Of course not!

[Guacamole409]

But Russia only has 6,000 nukes. Nukes ain't cheap!

[sawno]

@strateguy632 I don't mean a moral justification, I mean a justification in their eyes as in more likely for them to do it.
@guacamole409 Ukraine isn't that big and russia has really powerful nukes, they wouldn't need more than a handful if they need more than one.

[NathanDavis]

that was an incursion, at the border... lol

not exactly an invasion

[LiamJHayden]

My thoughts are that had our "leaders" since the 1990's not bungled it, there would be a huge alliance that would have included both and the wars would not have occurred.

[MysticDevice]

Serves them right.

Its hard to have any sympathy for the Sovie- I mean for Russia.

[genericname85]

reminds me a little bit of hitlers deluded plans. like as if that tiny country could take russia. wtf.

[Anonymous]

Symbolic. It can't be sustained. It's like if by some miracle North Korea were able to assault and occupy Hawaii. There's no F***ing way they'd be able to hold it.

[OddBeMe]

That will bring a lot of responsibility like not committing war crimes. Which apparently is harder than we think.

[Pohjolan]

It seems to be going pretty well so far. Also its more of a counter attack.

[shortster]

The war won't end with Biden in office. Nor will it end if Kamala wins.

[Anonymous]

Maybe Russia will start realizing what they got themselves into finally and run out of money

[SweetJoyGirl]

Idk…war is very sad in general.

[MisterWack]

About damn time!

[Goahead76]

They're desperate and their army is nearly gone.

[handsomelad70]

RIGHT ON, UKRAINE !!!

[Cheerfull009]

Ukraine cannot successful to defeat Russia

[Anonymous]

Green lit the nukes is all that'll do

[Avicenna]

Good for them

[Agape93]

Good

[BarryLiverstone]

It’s war

[Ladsin2]

Good for the goose.