What are the biggest moral dilemmas your country is facing now?

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WhiteSteve · Accepted Answer

The last president couldn’t handle losing his re-election bid, so he lied to his followers and said it was fraudulent, leading to dozens of fruitless court cases (making it REEEEEAAAAALLLLLYYYYYY seem like it wasn’t fraudulent at all). It was all bolstered by a huge media outlet that had no problem platforming and spreading lies (they lost an almost $800M defamation lawsuit by a voting machine manufacturer for their role in spreading the lie and sullying their good name in the process…. and all the while exposing all kinds of behind the scenes inconsistencies in the private texts of some of their most influential talking heads between their real feelings and what they told their viewers on air).

Additionally, Republican politicians, both desperate for the political activity Trump inspired for their party (which is falling farther and farther behind with every elderly white person’s death) that also benefits voter turnout in their favor, and also scared to anger the rabid cult-like followers, who are just hanging on Trump’s every word, waiting for them to tell them who the bad guys are, and Republicans have been voted out of office for speaking out against Trump. These people all want to keep their jobs in DC, first and foremost, so whether they like Trump or not, they need him. That’s not to say Trump is “good”, but he’s “influential.” And Trump loves nothing more than people kissing his ass and groveling for his favor, so it’s just become “the way” in right wing politics now. So the point is, nobody on the Republican side is really calling all this out for being as wildly abnormal as it all is.

As a result, we’re in this CRAZY situation where Trump’s Bananaland behavior is starting to get normalized, we have kids in their 20s who must think this is all business as usual, when it’s anything but.

There’s just not enough pushback. The Democrats do it, but it doesn’t mean much coming from political opponents, it’s expected that one side will trash the other, so it gets written off as meaningless mudslinging. But there are SO MANY Republicans out there who are trying to bail out and get their party back. I’d be so pissed if I was a normal Republican, it’s absolutely nuts what’s happening. John McCain must be spinning in his grave.

And the problem with all this is that the guy’s platform revolves on scaring the shit out of people with lies and exaggerations about the state of society and the economy, many of which directly lend themselves to racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, etc, etc…. all kinds of the shittiest stuff humanity has to offer, BECAUSE OF Trump’s words and tenor. To have Trump tell it, America is a dystopian hellscape. And in the next breath they’ll tell you that it’s you who doesn’t love America if you complain about an issue that doesn’t bother them, “mAyBe YoU ShOuLd MoVe tO nOrTh KoReA!”🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ They talk like 2016-20 was the greatest period in American and world history, lmao. I mean, I was ultimately fine, but I wasn’t like “OH MY GOD, I’M LIVING IN THE PINNACLE OF HUMAN CIVILIZATION!!!” It was all the ugliness of the MAGA movement, in victory lap mode. It was annoying as fuck.

But I guess that’s a key word: ugliness. I just feel like Trump, through his words, and in service of a political career that only exists to self-aggrandize, and this time around, keep him out of legal trouble he’s gotten himself into, takes normal societal issues and dishonestly and deliberately manipulates them to convince people that he’s some demigod sent to save the common American man and woman from some major existential threat that doesn’t exist, or often is just a common-sense progression of society that is being mischaracterized as threatening, and it holds us back from positive progress. He convinces people that they’re under attack and under threat of losing some perceived societal status they have, again, almost entirely through lying and fear-mongering.

And when you aren’t in the cult it’s fucking CRAZY to watch. But it’s overall just sad to me, seeing so many people convinced of a reality that doesn’t truly exist, but the trifecta of Trump, cowardly Republican politicians, and FoxNews and the rest of right wing media work in concert with each other to desperately keep their party in the game, as their agenda is generally unpopular with a majority of Americans. They’re COMPLETELY reliant on the energy Trump’s supporters bring to keep them competitive.

So, scarily this is all part of one answer, lmao, I’m trying to wrap up, and I haven’t even started on January 6th yet😂 I’ll breeze through that part but…. that’s all because Trump lied. Whether you give the participants some grace for being lied to or not, the end result was an atrocity. And these assholes will look you in the eye and try to tell you it was really AntiFa and the feds in disguise. REALLY. That’s a serious thing people will try to tell you, lmfao. But they also say they were patriotic, and are being unfairly persecuted, and it was just a tourist visit, and the Capitol Police just let them in the door….. pick a story and stick with it, lmao, the more variations you have, the more obvious it is that you’re lying🙄 Trump says he didn’t interfere in the election, but also says he did and had every right to.

This is really kind of my overall point right here: there’s this insane argument structure that MAGA has created where it’s ok to just dismiss negative information or accusations as “fake news” or some kind of nefarious conspiracy.

So as a result, you just can’t have normal conversations anymore, because there’s no shared basis of fact, and there’s been an additional structure of anti-intellectualism and “anti-expertise-ism” where they reflexively reject the opinions of the people they should trust the most, if the opinion doesn’t confirm a pre-conceived bias. Thought-wise, we’re horribly, horribly fucked right now.

I’m so sorry this is going so long, it’s just so complex and broad of an issue.

But my major thing is just that we have like 20% of the population delusionally committed to Trump and living in a fantasy world where everything sucks unless Trump is in charge, then it’s the absolute best🙄🤦‍♂️, and then there are a bunch of folks, most alarmingly, who just seem kind of unaware and not that tuned into what’s going on, to a point where they see this election like it’s two normal candidates in a normal election, when we’re actually at a very consequential fork in the road as a nation.

I guess I’m just horrified that that 20% still love Trump after everything he’s done, and they don’t believe or don’t care about the bad stuff, and then there are all these others who are like “hmmm, January 6th was kinda weird…. but gas prices….”, as if the economy is the big problem, and not that some crazy fuck who refused a peaceful transfer of power, among a million other things I won’t waste any more of your time with, isn’t the really, really, REALLY huge fucking deal that it is and isn’t trying to regain power.

Like the fact that it’s a toss up…no, fuck that… the fact that this dude is even a CONSIDERATION this time around, let alone the first time around, is just absolutely baffling. So people either don’t have the right priorities in life, or they’re so uninformed that they just don’t know the dumpster fire that’s burning right in front of them. That’s FRIGHTENING.

So, morally, maybe the issue is that we have people putting their own personal well-being (prosperity) over that of strangers, and even the stability of the nation and its government themselves. Money over decency and political stability.

If you made it this far, bless your soul, and I think you may qualify for a degree of some kind, that’s a ton of reading😂😂😂

MisterWack · Accepted Answer

If we want to live in this country where anyone can achieve the American dream or be in this country where certain people can achieve the American dream at the expense of others…..
If we want a leader who has been in legal hot water since before even stepping into the political system and continuing his criminal ways or a leader who has served as a prosecutor, attorney general, senator, VP who understands the rule of law & upholds the US Constitution rather than making up some excuse to terminate it….
Whether we live in a country where our politicians only serve their party’s agenda or a country where both parties see eye to eye to get things done for the will of the people & prove the country worthy of being on the world stage as a powerful united nation all those decades before.

We are at an important moment in America’s history and we must learn to let go of the past and move on to the future for the Next Generation. We must not forget 2016 & 2020, time to build a new future & a beautiful future with Kamala Harris & Tim Walz.

V_Injector · Answer

Ignore me and just read their opinions. It's obvious. We have brain-dead retards that hate Trump and people pointing them out.

How do we get rid of these brain-dead retards is the dilemma. They'd still have us in COVID lockdown if it was up to them... bet most of them still wear the mask.

It's so retarded that even retarded people think they're retarded. It's literally that retarded.

We've had 4 years of that retardation and they did nothing good with it... bring back the Orange man. Oh, vote for retardation's VP that's been there the entire time not doing a fucking thing? I'm not that retarded. Bring back the Orange man. He fixed problems despite being sludged by his opposition the entire way instead of making problems like our last 4 years. People need to stop being retarded.

And I think us non-retards need to take some accountability in allowing those retards to be so retarded. Plus I think they're midgets... mental midgets counts as midgets. Smooth brains is what we used to call them.

abc3643 · Answer

Q: What are the biggest moral dilemmas your country is facing now? A: Electing the most despicable human ever to have been President... or moving forward. After all:  The choice should be simple...

BetaBucks · Answer

Campaign contributions to politicians, government funded news, it being legal to make false news stories (completely fabricated, that is. Not just typical political BS), and politicians legally being able to conduct insider trading and offer taxpayers' money to the peasants in exchange for votes.

I know this isn't what you meant, because these aren't even in the spotlight. The ones in the spotlight are obviously abortion, immigration, gun rights and the extent of social programs.

sawno · Answer

What to do with the fact we let in to many migrants. We have more people than houses, so someone's gonna have to be screwed over.

ProbablyClueless · Answer

Whether or not the people have a right to self governance when the people choose a leader that the establishment doesn't like.

American Democracy is dying (honestly, it's probably already dead) and it's been killed by the electorate.

goaded · Answer

How to deal with the resurgence of the far right and stop Putin from encouraging it, with the willing help of Musk, Trump, and right wing "influencers".

DrPepper12 · Answer

Lol. The choice between the immoral man who thinks the seven deadly is a bucket list and the moral woman who knows what honor, service and empathy means.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

Corruption, ignorance, ''tradition'', consumerism/greed, hypocrisy, outdated rulership, economical exposure to both the U. S. A. and China.

Aiko_E_Lara · Answer

Our country is already struggling with an internal conflict such as drugs, corruptions and poverty but then there are Chinese threats and to make it worse, our country is very pro USA with a very overly confident current president.

Goahead76 · Answer

I really don't care who wins the US presidency because nothing meaningful will change. It is amazing though how tired the demonization playbook is: first Reagan was the crazy cowboy going to blow up the world, then how George W Bush was called a Nazi for nearly ten years, now Trump is the return of the KKK. The same tired crap my entire life and people just keep buying it.

SixFootSexy · Answer

Degeneracy, debt, corruption and money printing.

DJB72 · Answer

The ANC is still running the country. The alternative is no better.

Amur8711 · Answer

Abortion, letting criminals run rapidly (illegal and legal), stripping the right that gives the people power against the government.

SweetJoyGirl · Answer

We are normalizing the weirdest things. 😂

call_me_scar · Answer

Do we help the people or get the rich richer

LaurenM1997 · Answer

14 year olds stabbing people

Guacamole409 · Answer

Communism in America

animesenpai · Answer

The death of science knowledge and expertise

Knightwatch27 · Answer

@sweetjoygirl What is it?

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Capitalism.

Anonymous · Answer

Things like abortion

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