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That's sort of ridiculous. (*)
The prosecutor vs the felon and they choose the felon.
I guess the cops are just as corrupt as Trump.
My father used to say this: "The only difference between cops and convicts is which side of the bars they are on."
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(*) Here is their statement and you can see why they'd endorse Trump. We supported a liberal policy of de facto greater pay... (cut taxes, of course, cause that's how the GOP does it.)
https://fop.net/2024/09/fop-endorses-trump-proposal-on-overtime-pay/
FOP Endorses Trump Proposal on Overtime Pay
Trump Pledges to Push for Bill Ending Taxes on Overtime
Washington, DC - Patrick Yoes, National President of the Fraternal Order of Police, applauded a new proposal offered by former President Donald J. Trump from the campaign trail in Arizona that would eliminate Federal taxes on overtime pay.
“This would be incredibly impactful for law enforcement officers and their families,” Yoes said. “So many officers and their families depend on overtime pay just to get by, so eliminating taxes on this income will actually help these families get ahead. This is just one of the many reasons FOP members voted to endorse President Trump—he understands the needs of working families like ours.”
Speaking in Tucson yesterday, former President Trump said, “The people who work overtime are among the hardest-working citizens in our country. And for too long, no one in Washington has been looking out for them. Those are the people, they really work. They’re police officers, nurses, factory workers, construction workers, truck drivers and machine operators."
This year, Alabama adopted a temporary measure that excluded overtime wages for hourly workers from State taxes to help employers fill jobs in a tight labor market. FOP National President Yoes said it could help address the current crisis in recruitment and retention in State and local law enforcement.
“Our officers are too often overworked and under compensated, which is driving police veterans into other professions and making it hard to recruit the best and the brightest to serve as our nation’s next generation of law enforcement officers,” Yoes said. “Innovative proposals like President Trump’s tax-free overtime pay for law enforcement officers will make a real difference for officers and their families.”
@DrPepper12 does come to any surprise to you that police would endorse a republican vs. a democrat who comes from a faction that was openly propagating #defundthepolice a few short years ago? Does it come as a surprise that they wouldn’t support a candidate who openly rose bail funds to get BLM rioters out of jail back in 2020?
Also can you explain to me exactly why you want Kamala in office? Really I would like to know your motives. Seriously I would like to know how Trump would personally ruin your life if he was elected again in November
I could easily elaborate on exactly why I want Trump’s policy vs. Kamala’s. Easily elaborate on how that would impact me personally. And not just on theories and feelings. No I can elaborate on straight up logic on how impact my environment, career, etc. I can also elaborate about what makes me nervous about having him office.
But I would like to hear from you first. So again, can you please explain to me how Kamala’a can policies will directly impact your own life?
Oh this one is easy! It was only a faction, not the party, that was associated with defund the police And how racially motivated are you that you do not believe that Black Lives Matter? That was the cause of those riots. How would Trump personally ruin my life? By defying the constitution and making himself and emperor as he has already said many times. By refusing to accept the one who wins as the winner (as he has said). By causing riots and destruction (as he did in '21).
Kamala Harris has "preached" peace. She was even willing to shake Trump;s hand as he tried to avoid being a human. She is not willing to help Russia defeat the peaceful nations of Poland and Ukraine. I could go on, but you are a MAGA idiot who does not listen to reason.
@Red_Arrow “ By defying the constitution and making himself and emperor as he has already said many times. ”
So you really believe that?
None of that was my question. Read it again!
@Red_Arrow And Biden didn't go against the law and Supreme Court when he let in millions of criminals? And now we these gangs from Venezuela forming in every state.
@Daniela1982 There have been illegals coming in under Biden as well as Trump. The Biden administration recently implemented sweeping restrictions on asylum at the US-Mexico border, with legislation to prohibit migrants from entering the country illegally and to stop border posts becoming overwhelmed. The administration also kept in place a key Trump policy that gave border agents the power to turn back migrants quickly. There are venezuelan gangs in the US but nowhere near what Drumpf has been falsely claiming. Social media posts falsely claiming the Tren de Aragua gang took over an apartment building went viral, and former President Donald Trump repeated the claims in the debate. But you will believe all his lies.
@Red_Arrow It's not Trump claiming anything about the gangs. It has been on the news and from many news agencies. I haven't seen anything anywhere that said it was false, yet. And wasn't Biden the one flying immigrants all over the US, to anyplace they wanted? He also flew a bunch in on midnight flights, as well as on busses. Isn't he the one that was flying future voters in from all over, including Venezuela? He made Texas remove razor wire along the river to keep immigrants out. And he sold off all the remaining fence parts for scrap instead of just finishing the wall. Now he says he wants to complete it. These idiots don't know which way is up or down.
@Daniela1982 Obviously you did not watch the debate. Trump claimed it there. And after that, he kept repeating it. What has been on the news is that there are some gangs in the states, but nowhere near the amount Trump is claiming. And that is what many most news sources are saying. And it was not Biden flying and bussing immigrants all over. That was right wingers picking up immigrants, here illegally or legally, and sending them north to other states. And every voting precinct only allow US citizens to vote. The BS about the immigrants being allowed to vote was also started and spread by Don the Con. The razor wire could slash and kill anybody caught in it. So they had to take that down. But they could keep other fencing. Finishing the wall? You mean the wall Trump said would keep out the Mexicans and the Mexicans would pay for it? Well people were still getting over it, and Mexico did not pay a cent for it. The idiots are those of you who believe what Trump claimed.
@Red_Arrow Isn't all they need is a driver's license and an address to register to vote? They can get driver's licenses easily in some states. Where there is a will there's a way.
@Red_Arrow You know the government can make anything happen. I'm pretty sure illegals can vote in local elections in California, which should not be allowed. Any good forger can make up fake documents to allow illegal voters to vote in national elections too. I wouldn't put anything past The Cackler.
@Red_Arrow my original question was addressed to @DrPepper12 specifically. NOT YOU. You spoke for him and sidetracked this entire discussion.
But I did respond to your uninvited comment. And now are ranting about the typical leftist “Drumpf” approach. So predictable. So cliche. Really surprise us for once.
Notice how I never called Harris, Biden or anybody supporting them any labels in this particular thread. Sure I hate both of them. But that’s not what my original question is about them.
At the end of the day TALK IS CHEAP. I am making my voting decisions based on LOGIC when it comes to policy NOT feelings. How exactly will a candidate’s policies impact my own livelihood? That’s what matters to me as a voter.
I am just an average Joe who is between middle and upper class too. I am not a “MAGA” but like so many leftists so quickly assume. But my own life has been very negatively impacted by the Biden administration. From hyperinflation to increased local crime and urban decay I have seen the impacts in my own life. The cultural shit is annoying af but when these policies harm my quality of life then I get VERY pissed.
But that’s enough about me. I am just curious how exactly @DrPepper12 own livelihood will benefit under a Harris administration? He obviously motivated to campaign for the democrats. But what exactly does he get out of it? That’s what I want to know.
Me too.
I get the preservation of my beloved Republic.
I get the mortal wound that Trump is to leave and never come back
Oh, yeah. He will be shot. And everyone of you twisted, haters of America are as guilty as if you yourself had the pleasure of killing out candidate. Just couldn't let the conservative racist, sexist, homophobic, and all the rest of the shit y'all label us with. Continue serving the devil. You'll see it one day.
@DrPepper12 so you are motivated by altruism? You think you are preserving a republic and defending democracy?
I am not saying that to be facetious. Not trying to be provocative. Unlike some of other liberals on here I know you are capable of meaningful discussions and debates. I do respect you despite having major political differences.
But again you post more about leftist politics then GAGer on here. I want to know what motivates you.
Also I could easily counter back about very real and very authoritarian policies the democrats have implemented in the past few years. Even Kamala Harris being given the nomination without winning ONE PRIMARY VOTE is completely anti democracy. And that’s just one of several insane things democrats have done during Biden’s term in office.
But I get it. When it comes to dealing with Trump “the ends justify the means” right?
Even if he was guilty, it will all go away after he is elected President. We need the police funded and Trump will do that.
@Dongie World peace will never come. There is no way we can clean up this whole mess unless the whole world will go along with it. You can see how on here everyone loves or hates one of the Presidential candidates. You see how everyone hates Israel. You see how everyone hates God. It isn't going to happen.
First it's not "if" he was guilty, he is. He's been convicted.
Second, The conviction so far is a state level and he can't do anything about it.
The federal government doesn't fund the police. 90% if police departments don't receive ANY federal dollars in any given year!!
Who tried to kill Trump?
Someone Harris had something to do with. That way she was assured a win. But the suspect was killed, so we will never know. But it is a little too suspicious at all the Gaffs that were made that day that allowed the shooter to get into position for the shot. If Biden had been the speaker they would have done a better job.
"we don't count" convictions we don't like!! The cognitive dissonance is astounding!! 😂
Not my business. I find it weird how people are so worried about who other people are voting for and endorsing.
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u They are entitled to endorse whatever candidate they choose. Do you think they forgot about the ""facts" that you recited? Have you contacted them to point out their oversight?
by the way, the national FOP is not a labor union. SOME of the LOCAL affiliates are unions, but not the national organization.
The US Constitution, rule of law, and the Oath of Office matter. When a presidential candidate breaks that, is a convicted felon, and continues to break the law / show no respect towards the law then that person should never be endorsed by anybody let alone FOP.
We have a Prosecutor who is harsh & strong against criminals based on the facts of the case, transatlantic criminals included. She promised to bring back the bipartisan border deal that Border Security Officers wanted. Donald Trump dodged the question about killing the bill and was triggered yelling & screaming about at the debate (people can watch it for themselves). Americans deserve so much better than this…. As a former Trump supporter, I don’t believe this endorsement will make a difference though what will is more folks who watch the debate.
Most rank and file union guys are voting for President Trump. Cops and firefighters are included. I literally know hundreds of cops. 99% are bg Trump supporters. The cops are smart enough to know election interference when they see it. Besides they don't want to be defended and lose their immunity from prosecution for doing their job
I stopped reading at "cops are smart". You are correct they are overwhelmingly supporting trump but see my first sentence
@DrPepper12 read the rest of what I wrote.
Anyone who think and gets news and information from anywhere but the Democrat Propaganda machine knows the case was "Trumped up" and is is part of the Leftist hive mentality. Especially blacks whose heritage is being railroaded. They get it. Cami-La has nothing to offer them except Word Salad and they want what Trump offers them, A FUKKING JOB THAT PAYS. Not by freebies but by targeted Mercantilism. It is what build our economy in the past. Japan did it. Germany did it. China does it. We just smile blissfully as our dirty hands and sweat jobs disappear... except construction. Can't build a new office park for Nashville in China.
Oooh wee, I like this question.
Well let's see, they are American citizens and everyone knows our constitution guarantees us our God given rights.
Oh, I see. You perceive a conflict of interest since they work for the police. So you are of the camp that anyone who has a record should not be able to work.
I think it doesn't matter where a person works they are free to vote for whoever the hell they want to.
This is the American way. I'm sure, considering who they are voting for, that they are for truth, justice, and the American way.
May her flag ever wave, unincumbered by corrupt politicians that couldn't careless for her honor, and fuck all the commie bastards that seek to change her. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
It is not just optics. They know he is a convicted felon and sexual assaulter, and that he sent the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers in to beat the Capitol police as they broke into the Capitol. Several died and many more severely wounded due to Trump's actions.
@Dongie Kevin D Greeson, Roseann Boyland (crushed in the stampede of fellow rioters), Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke during the attack on the Capitol.
Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7, Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack. Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.
About 150 officers from the Capitol Police, the Metropolitan Police Department and local agencies were injured, and hundreds of workers were traumatized by the mob.
@Dongie 95% of BLM protests (that involved 25 million Americans and 2000 cities and towns) were completely peaceful, the vast majority of violence was against protesters, by the police, or property. Over 98% of protests didn't involve anyone being injured or killed.
Why don't you come up with the names of the fallen? Don't forget the police shot by right-wing Boogaloo boy.
@Dongie I knew you didn't have a clue. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_murders
Maybe these law enforcement officers know something mentally ill leftist propagandists pretend not to know: the Democrats are liars who target political opponents with politically-motivated malicious prosecutions and civil suits in far-left localities where their rights are not protected and they don’t get a fair trial.
And maybe these law enforcement officers know Kamala Harris’ awful record as a prosecutor makes her unfit for the office of POTUS.
What sexual assault?
What felonies, not cheating a bank?
You very well know. You just don't accept reality
May 9
Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M
Published 8:00 PM EDT, May 9, 2023
NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.
The verdict was split: Jurors rejected Carroll’s claim that she was raped, finding Trump responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse. The judgment adds to Trump’s legal woes and offers vindication to Carroll, whose allegations had been mocked and dismissed by Trump for years.
She nodded as the verdict was announced in a New York City federal courtroom only three hours after deliberations had begun, then hugged supporters and smiled through tears. As the courtroom cleared, Carroll could be heard laughing and crying.
Jurors also found Trump liable for defaming Carroll over her allegations. Trump did not attend the civil trial and was absent when the verdict was read.
Police are not responsible for New York's corrupt injustice system's judicial and prosecutorial misconduct. Nor are they responsible for New York's horrible living conditions the same corrupt injustice system has created.
That they let criminals caught red-handed committing real crimes go free so they can instead ignore the 6th amendment in prostituting their political enemies. Is not something any honest cop supports.
@goaded I haven't seen any evidence of Trump falsifying business records at all. Just claims that Trump's financial team both knew and could have been more specific about payments to his lawyer
The supposed acts would only have been report-able in 2017 after the 2016 election so there is no possibility of it breaking election law.
Regardless you can't charge someone for the offense more than 4 years later, perhaps because the records and memory required to prove innocent or guilt after soo much time are not reliable?
So the criminal prostitution was itself illegally promised upon the violation of anther unspecified crime which is a beaten violation of due process and the 6th amendment. As it is impossible to defend yourself against a crime if you don't know what it is.
1st amendment protect people's opinions about the 2020 election.
Trump as president had every right to whatever documents he wanted.
@Dongie So there were no illegal immigrants before Biden came into office?
@monorprise "I haven't seen any evidence..." You don't matter, the jury did. That's why they found Trump guilty on all 34 counts.
"Trump as president had every right to whatever documents he wanted."
He wasn't allowed to keep them after he lost, that's precisely the reason for the Presidential Records Act, because Nixon extorted millions from the government in exchange for presidential records he'd kept.
@goaded Why do you keep referencing 34 counts of the exact same act? If he was elegiable to be guilty of one he would be guilty of all. Unfortunately the statute of limitation passed and the law extending it was never tired.
I watched it. Don't tell me why I know something. Do you have access to my mind and, therefore, memory?
I watched it happen. Make excuses as that us all it is. 5:30 AM to 5:45 AM in the Pennsylvania count biden pulled in over 100,000 votes to take a small lead to Trumps 0. NOT fucking possible.
@Dongie What's the point, if you're just going to ignore reality?
I can't be bothered to work out which conspiracy theory you're talking about, feel free to give me a link to an explanation, it's probably debunked in one of these:
www.politifact.com/.../
theconversation.com/pennsylvanias-mail-in-ballot-system-has-a-problem-but-its-not-what-trump-is-making-unfounded-claims-about-237839
"One reason it is so easy to contest election results in Pennsylvania is that the state is among the very few – others include Alabama, Mississippi and North Dakota – that do not allow preprocessing of mail-in ballots.
Preprocessing refers to removing mail ballots from their envelopes, checking whether the ballots are valid, flattening them and setting them aside to be counted on Election Day."
No, it's like this. We have a government under the control of the very FAR LEFT. They have a goal and voters like you and Dr pepper are helping to the end of what America was founded for. You are so atr up with their mond controlled programming that you have excepted murder to get there. Do you understand that?
All of the conspiracies are the steps taken to get where we are now. And people that have no blinders and use our own minds and keep the crap out see and hear you people defending and repeating what you are told on TV and the internet. I promise you will NOT like where this country ends up giving they get to where they want US!!
@Dongie No, no American government has ever been "far left". As to "what America was founded for", that was government of and by the people, with no royalty.
"You are so atr up with their mond controlled programming that you have excepted murder to get there. Do you understand that?" No. What does that mean?
Why would they endorse a lying Communist? She does not know what the truth is if it bit her in the ass! Her mottos are DEFUND THE POLICE!!! THE BORDER IS SECURE... Trump fact-checked 11 times Kamala 0. Endorsed by the CCP
@goaded ABC NEWS over the weekend Kamala made that statement plus lied with the answer to every question asked of her. Then again CBS CNN ABC MSNBC etc etc. do not carry news that in any way is deleterious to THE DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA. That is why you do not know of her lies. How about listening to news from channels other than those listed above you might be supprised at what you can learn that there is more than one side to a story
@goaded As for the $25,000 to try and buy a house just caused the price to rise on the housing market already in anticipation of the $25.000 gift of my tax money$50,000 of my tax money to open a business we will see how that Ponzi skeem works out. From your use of European money and if you are from ENGLAND how would you like your PM to give you tax money away so easily? We here know that this money will be going to the illegals, not the citizens as per THE DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERIA!
@goaded You are deflecting again. please stop you have been posting meaningless crap about what Trump said and not a word about Kamala endless lies and word salad that you have said you have not seen or heard about but you say things that you would only know if you watched. Like THE DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA, you keep fostering lies instead of truth and it is getting long in the tooth listening to rehashed bullshit.
Yeah, you keep talking about "Kamala endless lies", but don't give examples. Here are 33 Trump lies and one "clarification" for Harris from the debate, edition.cnn.com/.../index.html
I’m more concerned with the whole eating dogs fiasco, everything else is on the back burner
Is anyone suggesting they should endorse the candidate who openly campaigned to defund them?
I know, right? It's almost like people give a shit about the POLICIES proposed by the people running rather than the labels the media would like to put on each candidate? It's like, WTF?, am I right?
Absolutely not, but what do you expect from cops?
Police endorsing Trump, should be arrested and put in prison.
Well maybe not THAT far but I feel that
Does it make you mad that a convicted felon is still a better candidate than whatever garbage the opposition could dredge up
nah they should support the liar who wants to defund them
Of course, the democrats will sack them and then execute them because the left are big lovers of genocide
Yes they should. Because they see through the lawfare. Democrats can get fucked.
ACAB...
yup i said it >.>
If he's running for president, sure.
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