Why do men hate children so much?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

men aren't the ones advocating for unlimited, unrestricted abortions

[Kaneki05]

I am.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 of course you are given everything else you've advocated for

[Kaneki05]

So you know of my views? Nice.

[DrPepper12]

I am

[Opinion Owner]

@DrPepper12 well no shit Sherlock. you, goaded and OddBeMe are competing for who's got the most TDS despite Trump not touching abortion whatsoever

[Kaneki05]

So Trump didn't allow states to decide over abortions which made it illegal in some states... Hmmm that's strange I could swear he did that and is proud of it.
But I guess anon say's he never touched abortion so must be fake news.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 no it was the SCOTUS who overturned Roe v Wade under Biden's watch but yeah blame the boogeyman Trump for this.

yeah some states made it illegal and other states made it fully legal, what's your point when voters are allowed to decide on it?

[Kaneki05]

“After 50 years of failure, with nobody coming even close, I was able to kill Roe v. Wade, much to the shock of everyone.” Trump quoted from on his own social media.
Like I said I am sure Trump don't gloat about it and is not proud of it at all, and wasn't the one who made this happen nah. Unless your saying Trump is lying here which wouldn't be the first time.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 the federal government has no bearing on state governments much less someone who isn't a part of the federal government at the time

no he isn't lying but he shouldn't be taking full credit either. that's like a sports general manager taking full credit for a sports team's championship victory

[Kaneki05]

The federal government does have bearing on states, that's incorrect and roe v wade even proved that for all the years it was in place. So the fact you don't even know that makes me question what do you know on this topic at all?

And Trump is most certainly lying if what your saying is true, though it's not.
As if you were right then Trump had nothing to do with it so him taking any credit is directly lying.

It's funny either way you argue, Trump takes the L here.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 Roe v Wade only proved abortion was a national issue at a time. not a states issues. it doesn't prove the federal government has a bearing on the states otherwise it violates the 10th amendment

it doesn't matter whether you think Trump takes credit or not for overturning Roe v Wade when the abortions laws per state have nothing to do with him

[Kaneki05]

The 10th amendment is not something that is followed to the exact, if you think that was the case then how did Roe v wade even happen? How would it flip flop from been a federal law to a none? It's because the 10th amendment is not a hard fast rule, it's a principle to work between state and federal which in lies many debates and changes over the course of history such as this one.

Oh it does matter a lot if trump is claiming to have done something because that is his own message he is spreading and wants people to think he was the reason for it.
Therefore when lefts hate him for it, you can't say the lefts are just blaming trump for no reason. The very reason is because himself claims he did that and is proud of it.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 Roe v Wade should never had happened to begin with. it only snuck through thanks to all these stupid proxy wars being used as distractions for the public

claiming credit for overturning Roe v Wade is not the same as claiming credit for how each state conducts their abortion laws. the people mad at Trump for the abortion laws in Texas should be praising Trump for the abortion laws in Minnesota but I guess we can't have it both ways, can we?

[Kaneki05]

Roe v wade should and still should, but no it didn't sneak through it was heavily debated on, and still is. Like many if not all of the federal laws that exist that impact states.

Yes it is, it's the exact same outcome. You can play around with pointless semantics but it's the same, when trump claims he overturned it he also holds the weight of the outcome which would be abortion been made illegal in places.
If you overturned a rule that now allows everyone to have a nuke, and someone decides to fire one for the fun of it do you just walk out and say 'Hey that had nothing to do with me, I never knew that was going to happen.' you can obviously know the weight of your choice especially in such obvious outcomes.
And it's even more your duty to know the weight of your actions as president.
Also 'Hey but at least that other guy didn't fire the nuke' don't work as a good defense either.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 uh no Roe v Wade wasn't heavily debated on. Obama even promised to codify it into law which he never did and neither would Kamala if she did get elected so she can blame the Republicans for her failure to do so as an excuse to be possibly voted in again in 2028. funny how Democrat voters conveniently forgot that as if they really didn't give a shit about Roe and just allowed baby deletion to become normalized into societal culture gradually over time

even if they tried to codify Roe v Wade into law, it violates the 14th amendment to protects life

you do realize some states allowed for abortion up to the moment of birth, right? should Trump get credit that for that too? or do you just want to focus entirely on his negatives due to your TDS? in your case of firing the nuke, yeah that's what abortion represents. literally gave you the option to do so. someone decides to fire the nuke just like they decided to murder their baby. obviously you're not against this whatsoever

overturning Roe v Wade gave pro-abortionists a fighting chance to keep abortion alive and extend it well beyond it's limits of Roe but I'm sure you're fine with that and you're not complaining about it except looking for a reason to demonize Trump

[Kaneki05]

Right Roe V wade wasn't heavily debated on, not at all and still isn't sure my dude. Wonder why I am here talking about it right now in fact if it's such a non-debated issue, wonder why it got overturned and made people mad? Nah must be in my head.
Such a none issue, the states fought to overturn it for no reason I guess.

And once again you bring up violating an amendment, you really don't get how federal laws work and how it's debate. Because guess what protect life is subjective, many say life starts in the womb, many others don't. Also if the cells in the womb would cause a complication that would kill the mother who do you class as the protected life here by the way one of the exact reasons for Roe V Wade.
This, is why it's a principle by the supremacy clause.

Overturning Roe v Wade have pro-abortionists a fighting chance to keep abortion alive? Do you even hear yourself as you type?
Before it was overturned Abortion was required to be legal in all states up to a term, now it's not. So somehow in your head you figure allowing states to ban it is better than not, for people who don't want it banned yeah that makes sense.

It's clear to me you talk without knowing what your on about, and do some mental gymnastics to try make right winged ideas seem like they are good for lefts? It's funny. Oh yeah and anyway to try make trump look good though it's pretty obvious he took a L here either way.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 Roe v Wade is only heavily debated now because the Democrats turned it into one by continuously pushing lies after lies to fearmonger their voter base. people are mad because they're uninformed on what overturning Roe v Wade does.

life is not subjective at all. who the fuck would say a rock or a car is life? no one because life isn't subjective but leave it up to liberals to say everything is subjective include gender is on a spectrum BS

there's no law that prohibits saving the mother's life. MSM has been lying to you. ecotopic pregnancies and miscarriages (which aren't life by the way) can still be treated. those are not abortions. abortion butchers and poisons a living baby. big difference there. any other complications can be solved with an early premature birth. every other reason for abortion has so far been elective and thus being used as birth control.

yeah I do hear myself because abortion could've just been flat-out banned by the SCOTUS and no one will ever hear about it ever again. there's no medical reason to ever need an abortion. it's all lies and lazy negligent doctors making big bucks from the abortion industry and blaming "pro-life" laws as an excuse to cover up their malpractice.

oh man, you're projecting your mental gymnastics really hard. I get it, orange man bad.

[Kaneki05]

Yeah that's right Roe v Wade only just became a hot topic sure. It's not like conservatives were wanting to remove it for years nah. It's not like states were nah.
Just all the sudden a couple years ago you guys just started having a problem with it out of nowhere yup, your right.

Indeed who would say a car, or rock or lump of cells = human life. Good point it is absurd. But yet you argue it is.
It is subjective by the fact you even need to even argue this with me. That is direct proof, if half the people don't see it as human life, and the other half do then it's subjective as no one can agree. Though objectively it's just a lump of a cells that can't survive independent of the body it's in but there's a lot of people like you who argue emotions over objective.

'oh man, you're projecting your mental gymnastics really hard.' can't you even come up with your own retort?
If someone's fat and they are when they call you fat but your skinny it really makes no sense ya know? The only one doing mental gymnastics here is you as you really are trying to argue Trump is for the left. Which makes no sense in either direction, also I guess that's why he's totally a democrat right? if he's for the left and all.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 lmao conservatives were not the ones rioting over Roe v Wade. liberals were the ones rioting all across the country and threatening the lives of the SCOTUS judges. now tell me again, who's making a big deal over this? oh nvm, you'll just say conservatives when deep down you know it's the liberals making a big deal over this

no shit nobody will say that a car or a rock is life because it's not. the argument is you making life out to be subjective when it's not. people not seeing something as human life means jack shit when they thought the thing about black slaves hundreds of years ago. hey, let's dehumanize a group to justify atrocities upon them.

can you survive with your heart outside of you? I mean, your heart is just a lump of cells after all. funny cause emotions is the entire basis of the pro-abortionists

given that Trump was a former Democrat and the most liberal Republican we've had in years, yeah his policies aren't even close to far-right regardless of how much MSM propaganda you soak in every day. even former Democrats like Elon Musk, RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, Joe Rogan are switching over which shows the Democrats have gone too far to the Left, heck even Bernie Sanders is calling you out but I guess he's not for the Left either and that's ignoring the fact Hilary Clinton was against illegal immigration and Barack Obama was against gay marriage.

but sure, keep telling yourself that right-wing policies don't benefit left-wingers at all because it's not like Democrat run cities are shitholes, oh wait they are.

[Kaneki05]

What are you on about Bernie don't agree with Roe V wade been overturned and's been left all his life and been the most consistent about it. While trump is just a dude who flips his view to match the narrative.
Bernie was and is literally all for Abortion been a constitutional foundation not a state issue.
But hey of course you don't know that because you really have no clue what your on about.

And yes of course a Black person is the same as lump of cells in a body yup what a good comparison makes total sense. Oh yeah a heart been outside of your body is the same as a fetus that makes sense too.
These things are obviously very alike how could of I been so blind.

You do talk some nonsense I find it quite amusing, I also love how much you've diverted away from what we even were talking about and keep bringing other topics into this.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 never said Bernie agreed to Roe v Wade being overturned. Bernie is calling out the Democrat Party for blaming the voters and calling them racist/sexist for Kamala losing

and abortion has never been a constitutional foundation. liberals like you have been brainwashed into believing it has been

black people were regarded as subhuman once to justify slavery. the same dehumanizing tactics now being used to justify abortion. and a heart is a clump on cells too that can't survive independent of the body. yeah we can play this foolish game of yours if you wish

my "nonsense" is poking holes in your "logic", not that there's any logic to begin with. only your subjective feelings but hey, your side can feel a gazillion different genders too

[Kaneki05]

Interesting so you were bringing up Bernie for no reason to talk about a totally different issue?
And even digging deeper into nothing we talking about. And you keep trying to bring different genders into this and race into this.
Someone needs to hear of what a strawman is.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kaneki05 yeah I brought up Bernie to highlight the fact the Democrat Party is not what it once was, pushing many former Democrats to the Republican Party. "orange man bad" wouldn't even be a thing if Trump ran as a Democrat. heck Trump could give the pro-abortionists everything they want and they'd still find a reason to bitch and complain about him

yeah I brought up race and gender because racism has been justified via dehumanizing language plus your side believes gender is subjective too thus it makes sense why your side believes life is also subjective when it isn't

[Anonymous]

We don't.

[OlderAndWiser]

Why are you hanging with the wrong men?

[Kaneki05]

Eww children. That's a simple one to solve, they waste money while I have not much myself along with the fact they create stress and you needing to do things for them.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Troll bait detected! Loaded question! Any answer at all implies men hate children.

[phraseology]

Men don't hate children, they just hate you and are unwilling to date you and take care of some other dude's children after you split and couldn't make things work with the baby daddy.

[DrPepper12]

What are you talking about labeling an entire gender with lies. We love kids too!! It's not some maternally exclusive club!!

[FoxnEagle]

Hate them?
Nah, if not football, then why football shaped?

[Anonymous]

Men don’t hate children. Now if you’re a single mom that’s something else. Men don’t want to take care of another man’s child (ren). Doesn’t mean we hate children.

[DaddyDiablo]

Children freak me out more than I can ever hate them tbh like fuck kids those mf use n abuse anyone that's in their way or whatever tf their reason

[beefcakebradybatson]

I've ALWAYS loved small children and babies, but have rarely felt the need to be a father.(And at 71, it's too late, as Carly Simon sang).

[Anonymous]

Break the cycle. Sounds like you're stuck in one.

[Anonymous]

I think children are cute, but I can't around saying that or else I'd be looked at as a pedo.

[Abbycado]

They don't. Stop generalizing.

[Ms_Facesitter]

Because you only meet bad men.

[TheStaleMarshmellow]

You dont know me!

[jahaims]

You're just stupid and confused

[Gold618]

They don't.

[genericname85]

trollololol

[seeyounexttuesday]

We don’t.