Mr. Trump was today sentenced in his New York case. No punishment, but he will be a felon forever.
All those criminals in jails must be more excited about their prospects.. given they are all innocent.
What can I say... don't hang around with slutty women, definitely don't invite them over to your place "to hang out"... didn't Clinton and his ontorage learn that? don't look at them or be mesmerized by their cleavage...
... and sure as hell... don't pay them off to not talk. That is the biggest problem... someone was stupid enough to think paying a slutty female would shut her up. They don't understand females or human nature. Trump and his team of idiots... they don't understand people. That is the risk we face, which is why others are a better option... but oh well. Hopefully he can do some good?
Hopefully, they have learned something. But until you admit to yourself your flaws and learn, then likely to repeat and the stakes are higher. It really is helpful at these levels to have mental dysfunction, narcissism... it's convenient.
So plan for all out nuclear explosions, mahem, chaos, and appolcalyptic type events. ... and hope it's better than that.
"Your Highness" should do.
In the mean time, what a lame ass system... I'd rename NYC to Osterichtown, they should burry their heads in disgust.
Your Royal Heinous!
Hahaha. I'm proud of this one for sure.
@Dongie Yeah. And I see it must take one to know one huh?
You need to turn the channel off of MSNBC for awhile and get some fresh air. 🤣
I am not even in the USA and I have been following the corruption going on in your government, mostly from your political party. We are studying this in school here. Other countries are looking at the USA as a cautionary tale of what can happen when people allow one political party to quietly take control. Your party controls all the courts in your capital, DC., as well as those in NYC. The judge that tried and sentenced your former president broke a lot of rules. His daughter made millions working for the politcal party that owns him. When all of this is investigated, you will not be so happy. It is sad that Americans did not learn the lesson of what happened in Germany in 1932. You seem to be desperately trying to copy it.
So you think Japanese people live in Russia? Wow! This should be surprising but it is not. I watched many videos on YouTube and Tiktok where a reporter goes to elite colleges in the US where most of the students are liberal democrats. The reporter asks them very simple questions and none of them can answer. One time, the reporter asked people to point out China on a world map. None of them had a clue. China is a large country. Every elementary school student in my country can do this. We must learn subjects such as geography, math, science, history. Your schools barely mention these things and instead focus on gender identity, gender transitioning, pronouns, and every other facet of woke ideology. So it doesn't surprise me at all that you cannot distinguish Japan from Russia.
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Actually, it's not required to refer to felons as felons, and I would say it's usually unhelpful as well (especially as a pejorative).
I will simply be calling him "the current president," since its also not necessary to refer to that one by name.
That's fair... perhaps "the first felon president" would work? Sounds a bit more formal and forboding, and the phrase symmetry reminds that he was chosen over both who could have been "the first female president"
I know. The first convicted felon President !!!
@Dongie none of the felons I know personally are the first to have their jobs/positions as felons. So as I said, referring to them as one would be unnecessary and unhelpful.
As for strangers on the street, I don't see how i would know who's a felon just by looking at them, and I don't talk to strangers very often anyway.
@Dongie okay, but how would he know which strangers are felons either?
@Dongie he's concerned about a felon being the president, for sure. Has he said he's concerned with felons holding other jobs or otherwise being integrated in society?
Are you not from America? You obviously are not familiar with what went on the months before the first assassination attempt. The DA, judge, and jury were all activists leaning far left. The so-called indictment was over a charge well past the statutes of limitation. The fact that they went ahead and prosecuted him shows the dirty and illegal nature of the whole scenario. Felon? I think not!
Are you not from America? You obviously are not familiar with what went on the months before the first assassination attempt. The DA, judge, and jury were all activists leaning far left. The so-called indictment was over a charge well past the statutes of limitation. The fact that they went ahead and prosecuted him shows the dirty and illegal nature of the whole scenario. Felon? I think not!
You obviously side steped my point. The rude and nasty way he goes about talking of a person who is not his president is a bit disconcerting.
@Dongie what is the statute of limitations for the crime he was convicted of? What did the da, judge, and jury do that was unjust and caused by a bias towards the left? I have heard of some accusations of this type before, but when I looked into it I could not find any real examples of the trial being done in a biased or unjust way.
As far as that circus, all it proved to the rest of the world was that America doesn't respect the rule of law. The persecution and prosecution only showed that America is no longer a symbol of democracy. And @CheeseMonster, I think you are well aware of the facts. It doesn't mean you accept them as gouda and his friends on the far left don't. Stop toying with me. This is a tired and well-worn subject that has been put through the ringer too many times.
@Dongie We're only still talking about it because you keep lying about it. The case has been all the way to the Supreme Court; nobody in court is saying there's anything legally wrong about the case. Just yakkers on propaganda channels and liars on social media sites for who there is no requirement they tell the truth.
@Dongie that's fair. At least one of my questions was a very simple one I could just Google. So I did. (The statute of limitations was extended for all felonies in new York the last 6-ish years because of COVID. Trumps case is not special, it simply happened right before a time when courts got Nationally backed up because of an epidemic.) Ironically, if Trump had handled COVID better during his first presidency, he may have avoided being charged altogether since the courts would have been less backed up and the extention may never have been put in place.
As for the other question, I already said I tried to find out the truth about accusations like your before, and I couldn't come up with anything. If you have any specific accusations that would be helpful so I have something to go off of, instead of having to first figure out what all the different accusations of bias and injustice are, and then having to find out what caused the accusations, and then whether they are valid. An example is that there were accusations that the jury was not allowed to see evidence during deliberation (a specific claim), but this was based on misleading reports from certain news stations. Looking further into it, the jury was allowed to see evidence they just had to ask for i (as is the standard for new york; again Trumps case was not special).
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@CheeseMonster
Still don't want to recognize all the little "exceptions" made in order to destroy a man. How about this smart guy? Find another case in New York City where statutes have been manipulated. Find another person indicted for borrowing a certain amount that a court deems fraudulent and prosecute the person. How about the "hush money" paid out by slick Willie? Is it only a crime when a republican does it. You freaks are so far under law and order I can smell your stench from wherever you hail. Shove your head to see if it fits.
@Dongie A far right totalitarian creep is about to march back into office, with your full and enthusiastic endorsement.
As to your new lies about Trump's felony convictions, paying hush money is not illegal, just immoral, and if he'd declared it as a campaign expense he wouldn't have committed a crime. What he did instead was falsify business records to hide the fact that he was breaking campaign finance laws in order to defraud the voters.
@Dongie it wasn't an exception. It was the same for every other felony committed in the last 6 years, because of the extention put in place during COVID. There are also plenty of other people who have been convicted of felony fraud. Do you think Trump is the first person to hold this label? Obviously not. He's just the first person with it to be elected president.
@beefcakebradybatson ''M'' will be proud of him, I bet :D
Trumpsters would see a black man such as I and think,"Felon!!!"
@Dongie so you'd prefer we put a sitting president on trial? Thst was the only other option if you believe that we should follow the law, he wasn't POTUS when he committed the crime.
You really couldn't do much while he was POTUS, because of how dangerous it can be to have a president under criminal investigation and trying to run this country.
Either we can prosecute a sitting president or that a term as president doesn't count for 4 years of the statute of limitations.
@Twalli
What?
Did you pay attention during Trumps first run?
Russian hoax, Stormy liar and the other things like two fuckin' bogus impeachments. Hey your side couldn't give a fuck what happens to this country. Incite riots and bail out the perpetrators. Destroy buildings and rip down fuckin' statues. Don't approach me with any of your disgusting vile fuckin' words.
@Dongie Not a hoax (dozens of contacts between the campaign and Russia, multiple convictions for obstruction of justice, many more not charged because the criminal was the president at the time), Stormy was not a liar, the Ukraine phone call almost certainly sounded like Trump's call to Raffensperger, and then there's the violent attack on the Capitol that you'd have people believe was totally peaceful, even though we saw it with our own eyes and the evidence against Trump is now mostly public. e. g. harrylitman.substack.com/.../one-for-the-books-jack-smiths-report
Installing a president through fraud is a far worse crime than destroying property.
You'll now make truly baseless accusations against the Bidens but every one of your accusations should be seen as a confession.
@Dongie Far-RIGHT totalitarians are OK, eh, Dongie?
@beefcakebradybatson
No, they are not. Whenever one side grabs for full either way, it is a bad situation and pulls others in an opposite way. Center is the goldilocks stance.
Grifter-In-Chief !!!
@Dongie Truth hurt?
“As the Office explained in its dismissal motions and in the Report, the Department’s view that the Constitution prohibits Mr. Trump's indictment and prosecution while he is in office is categorical and does not turn on the gravity of the crimes charged, the strength of the Government's proof, or the merits of the prosecution—all of which the Office stands fully behind.”
@Dongie Riots like the Jan.6,2021 trailer trash "revolt?"
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"Who? Somebody definitely got triggered here. I guess if you insist on believing in criminal felons that's what happens sometimes when you try to whitewash them."
It's getting attacked with all these lies. I wonder sometimes if you jerkoffs believe the shit you're smearing or if you just enjoy lying.
The fact of the matter is this: If Trump is guilty of the bullshit misdemeanors and you feel so strongly about it how are you going to react to the crimes of Biden and all the rest of the Democrat perpetrators and what they have done just against Trump? It's my guess you'll overlook the crimes saying whatever it takes to get him is fine. Right gouda?
@Dongie I did. The thing about an impeachment is that the person who is being impeached dd the thing they're accused of. That's just how it works. The question asked in an impeachment is whether or not that is enough to remove them from office and prevent them from running again. Unlike Biden's impeachment investigation where they tried and failed to find an impeachable offense. You believe that Trump never had sex with Stormy Daniels? It wasn't like others didn't know this before he became a huge public figure. Inciting riots and bailing out perpetrators afterwards, looks like we'll see that soon. Define destroying buildings. Does vandalism and breaking windows count?
@Dongie Truth hurts. Joe Biden was never impeached, he will never be indicted, simply because he didn't commit any crimes.
The more that came out in the House "investigation" (smear campaign), the more obvious his innocence became. They trooped off to expose a report made to the FBI, only for the person who reported it to be found to be working with Russian intelligence. Another was a fugitive arms dealer who paid a high-ranking government official and advisor to Donald Trump, as an unregistered agent for Chinese interests.
I figure he screwed that whore why eles would he pay her to keep quiet. She didn't keep her end up, so paid him, I guess.
I'm talking about burning buildings, not breaking a piece of glass. There were also a few people murdered. Why do you not speak of it? Oh, because it's your people.
Gouda, what the hell are you running your forked tongue about? Are you talking about the Biden crime syndicate? No impeachment just proves he's protected by those running the shit. Democrats and rinos. Let's wait a while and see what a honest investigation turns up dickhead. Oops, I guess I'll get in trouble again as you pußsies pick and then whine to the gag folks to get me in to twuble. 😮
What say you pencil neck wimps say about the nation wide fire of 2020?
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@Dongie CENTRE? Dude, you'd be regarded a far-right crazoid to 99% of the world outside America !!!
Nah, everyone on here, I change my mind to see and say, far right is what is needed to fuck you disgusting pos'. I hope none of you survive this next 4 years. I hope I get to hear of it, too. I hope your families don't survive it either. Then we can discuss what a white man thinks of a racist pig like you.
Here ya' go, Brady!
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u The correct address would have been the one for the location of the correctional facility he SHOULD have been put in long ago.
He will always be a felon though so I say President Felonious Trump Sr.
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"You promise to uphold the powers of the constitut- oh forget it."
"The convicted president of the United States!"
President Trump or just Donald J Trump. The felon part is fake, nobody can tell me what the underlying crime was that upgraded the misdemeanors to a felony so I am not gonna go along with that nonsense.
It was more that there were 34 of them. Individually they wouldn't result in jail time. However there were 34. If you commit a lot of similar misdemeanors, you have stricter punishments than a single offense. 1 parking ticket is a fine, 34 probably will have your license suspended for an example that might resonate with us better.
He's Mr. President when he's sworn in. Outside of office he's a convicted felon and if he didn't already have his business empire (which he really shouldn't have as POTUS), he'd have to find a job and check the little box saying he's been convicted of a crime.
"indicted" and "convicted" are not the same thing
@Twalli Nice try, but you're 110% wrong. Indictment means charges, conviction means guilt, and sentencing determines the punishment. Trump got an unconditional discharge, meaning no jail, no fines, no probation—basically, a slap on the wrist for a political witch hunt. He’s appealing, so it’s not over. please educate yourself on how the law works before you continue embarrassing yourself.
@goaded Your delusion is off the charts. Trump was NOT indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced for 34 felonies, no matter how many times you repeat it. If this were true, every single U. S. news outlet—left, right, and center—would be blasting it 24/7, and you wouldn’t have to dig for obscure headlines or make up fake quotes.
You’re claiming Fox News, OANN, and others "covered" this supposed conviction, yet nobody in America, including Trump’s supporters and critics alike, has heard of it. Why? Because it didn’t happen. Your German media sources are either spinning indictments into "convictions" or outright lying to push their anti-Trump narrative.
If Trump were a ‘convicted felon,’ how exactly is he set to be sworn in as president a week from now? Here’s a hint: it’s because your entire argument is fantasy. Get out of your echo chamber and come back when you can distinguish between charges, trials, and convictions
@Filthy_Immigrant Everybody has heard about it except you, and that's only because you are clearly wilfully ignorant. I already gave you nine links to news stories about it, even including OANN and Fox "News", and quoting OANN from theirs:
"Judge Juan Merchan has **sentenced** Donald Trump to an unconditional discharge, meaning the President-elect is not required to take any action, but the **conviction** will remain on his record."
www.oann.com/.../
Here's a reputable news source:
apnews.com/.../trump-hush-money-sentencing-stormy-daniels-33e070bd3c1acb609bba13f23d784a3a
@goaded Willful ignorance? That’s funny coming from someone who thinks spamming links nobody reads counts as "proof." Let’s get one thing straight: if Trump were convicted and sentenced, it wouldn’t be buried in obscure articles or "below the fold" headlines—it’d be the biggest news story in America. Yet, nobody here has heard about it because it’s a lie.
As for your so-called OANN quote: you’re either misquoting or pulling it from thin air, because no reputable source has reported Trump’s conviction or sentencing. And your AP link? It leads nowhere. If you can’t even provide valid sources, maybe it’s time to admit you’ve been duped by anti-Trump propaganda.*
Here’s a reality check: Trump hasn’t been convicted of anything, which is why he’s about to take the oath of office. Until you can provide actual evidence—not cherry-picked or fabricated headlines—stop embarrassing yourself by pretending you know more about America than the people who live here
@goaded you are really proving my point with this broken-record act. You keep saying ‘indicted, tried, convicted, sentenced’ like repeating it will magically make it true. If Trump were actually convicted, the news wouldn’t be hidden in a few links only you can see—it would be on every TV screen and newspaper in America. But it’s not, because it didn’t happen.
Here’s a challenge: since you think you’re so right, copy and paste the exact sentence from one of your ‘reputable’ sources proving Trump was convicted and sentenced. I guarantee you can’t, because those articles either don’t exist or are spinning the truth about indictments—not convictions. Stop embarrassing yourself and learn the difference between charges and a guilty verdict. Until then, your argument is just noise.
@Filthy_Immigrant It is true, moron. Trump has been indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced. He's a felon.
I already did "copy and paste the exact sentence from one of your ‘reputable’ sources proving Trump was convicted and sentenced.", only it wasn't a reputable source, it was OANN because I thought you might prefer that. ALL the other sources say the same.
“You keep insisting it’s true, but repeating a lie doesn’t make it a fact. The OANN “quote” you posted is not credible, and your claim that ‘all the other sources say the same’ is pure fiction. If Trump had been convicted and sentenced, you’d have no trouble citing a legitimate source like AP, Reuters, or even CNN explicitly stating, “Trump was convicted and sentenced.” Yet, you still can’t provide that because it hasn’t happened.
Indictments and trials are not convictions. You’re confusing accusations with outcomes, and it’s embarrassing. Until you can show credible proof, not cherry-picked fake quotes, your argument is nothing but wishful thinking and propaganda.
@Twalli Dense? The only thing dense here is your belief in a fake “trial” that didn’t happen the way you think it did. If you’re so certain about what happened, then enlighten me: where’s the real evidence that Trump was convicted in a court of law, by a jury, and sentenced? Show me one credible, verified news report confirming it.
Spoiler: you can’t, because this supposed “trial” and “conviction” only exist in your imagination and propaganda-filled sources. Indictments aren’t convictions, and your lack of proof just proves my point.”*
Let them stew in their inability to provide facts. They’re just bluffing at this point, hoping you’ll back down—but they’ve got nothing.
@Filthy_Immigrant Why did Trump go to court those days? Why was it reported on multiple news sources thst he was convicted on 34 counts? Why is he filing an appeal? Why us he trying to avoid being sentenced?
It isn't front page news anymore, because it didn't happen recently. He was convicted several months ago. Things have happened since then.
@goaded Dense? Troll? Bot? That’s rich coming from someone who’s throwing insults instead of evidence. If your “9 links” were so compelling, you wouldn’t have to resort to name-calling—you’d simply let the facts speak for themselves. But you can’t, because none of your sources prove Trump was convicted or sentenced.
If you really believe you’re right, copy and paste the exact wording from a credible source explicitly stating Trump was convicted and sentenced. I’m still waiting. Until then, your tantrums and fake claims are just hot air.
@Twalli Your entire argument is built on fiction. Trump hasn’t been convicted of 34 counts, hasn’t been sentenced, and isn’t “filing appeals to avoid sentencing.” If he had been convicted months ago like you claim, it wouldn’t magically stop being front-page news—especially with 2024 right around the corner. That’s not how things work in America, no matter how much you want it to be true.
Trump has been indicted, yes, but indictments are not convictions, and no trial has concluded with a guilty verdict. You’re either deliberately lying, or you don’t understand basic legal processes. Until you can show evidence of an actual conviction—not just your recycled nonsense—I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself more than what you already have
@Filthy_Immigrant The facts do speak for themselves, but you're such a dense troll bot that you won't even look at them. I already copy and pasted from OANN, thinking that's more your speed than a reputable news source and you claimed I was making it up. Why should I expect better from any of the other 8 links?
Trump was convicted in May 2024 of 34 felony crimes after delaying the trial as long as he could. His lawyers then delayed the sentencing as long as they could, until after the election, but that came to an end last week when he was finally sentenced.
@goaded you must live in a parallel universe, because nothing you’re saying aligns with actual events. Trump was NOT convicted of 34 felonies in May 2024, nor was he sentenced last week—none of this has happened, no matter how much you want it to be true. If it had, it would be front-page news worldwide, yet here in the real world, no credible outlet is reporting it because it’s pure fiction.
You claim to have "facts," but you can’t even provide a valid quote from a reliable source. All you’ve done is spam links and make up timelines that don’t exist. Until you can back up your claims with real evidence—like an official court record—you’re just proving you’ve got nothing but propaganda and wishful thinking
@Filthy_Immigrant Again, what's the point? You're going to continue your ridiculous lie whatever I show you. You won't even follow a link.
34 guilty verdicts, May 2024:
www.nycourts.gov/.../Trump-Verdict-Sheet.pdf
@goaded Wow, a random PDF you dug up on the internet—how convincing! Let’s be clear: if Trump were actually convicted of 34 felonies in May 2024, it wouldn’t be buried in some obscure document you had to dig up. It would be headline news on every major network. And yet, here we are, with zero credible sources reporting it.
Nice try, but until you can provide official court records or a reputable source confirming Trump’s conviction and sentencing, this is just more fantasy. Stop wasting my time with fake ‘evidence’ and start facing reality
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@Filthy_Immigrant That was an offical court document. Dumbass.
www.nycourts.gov/.../Trump-Verdict-Sheet.pdf
Funny how many of you trolls are awake before dawn breaks on the east coast of the US.
goaded@ An official court document? Really? If that’s the case, why is it floating around as a random, unverified link instead of being reported by every major news outlet in America? Courts don’t ‘leak’ verdicts like this, and your inability to provide a legitimate source proves you’re clutching at fake evidence.
As for being awake at this time—welcome to America, where people work 3rd shifts, have responsibilities, and grind harder than you clearly understand. Maybe instead of worrying about my sleep schedule, you should focus on finding real proof to back up your fantasy claims
@Filthy_Immigrant Literally insane. It's not "floating around", it's on a New York government website. It was reported by every news outlet in American and around the world at the time, as was his sentencing. It's not my fault you'll deny reality and refuse to follow links.
www.nycourts.gov/.../Trump-Verdict-Sheet.pdf
@Filthy_Immigrant Why isn't it headline news? I don't know, maybe people care more about half of California being on fire? Maybe we care more about Trump's attempt to add Hreenland and Canada to the U. S. Also he got an unconditional release, and with your (insert sarcasm) clearly extensive legal knowledge (d nd sarcasm) I don't need to explain that to you.
I coukd explain the legal precedents this provides, including making gag orders suggestions, but if I do that I'd prefer to do it on my computer as opposed to my phone.
@goadedIt’s been 24 hours, and you’re still clinging to this random PDF like it’s the holy grail. If this ‘verdict sheet’ were legit, it wouldn’t need you to spam it on some obscure link—it would be breaking news everywhere, with official confirmation from credible sources. Yet, not a single court record, government announcement, or major outlet has verified Trump was convicted or sentenced. Why? Because it didn’t happen.
You’re not proving anything except your refusal to accept reality. Keep spinning your fake narratives—it’s more entertaining than convincing. Meanwhile, I’ll be over here in the real world, where facts actually matter, celebrating the fact that Trump will be in office in just 5 more days.
@Twalli So now it’s ‘not headline news’ because California’s on fire and Trump allegedly wanted to annex Greenland and Canada? That’s one of the most ridiculous excuses I’ve heard yet. If Trump were convicted of 34 felonies and sentenced, it wouldn’t just be buried under other news—it would dominate the headlines for weeks, just like his indictments did. But you know that didn’t happen, which is why you’re deflecting.
As for your ‘legal precedents’ and ‘unconditional release,’ feel free to explain them on your computer—or not at all—because so far, you haven’t backed up a single claim with credible evidence. Until you can show official records or verified sources proving Trump’s conviction, all you’re doing is spinning fairy tales
@Filthy_Immigrant unconditional release means no time, but remaining on the criminal registry. I don't really have a problem for that based on his convictions because they may have totaled under w years of time if he was sentenced to prison time anyway.
The precedent set is that Trump was not punished for violating the gag order around 12 times, knowingly. If Trump was not punished for that and justice is Blind, nobody else should be henceforth. That's a dangerous precedent. You don't have to incarcerate him for that, but he should have some penalties for violating it. If not, gag orders are just a statement of what the court wants, not anything else.
@goaded Oh, yelling in all caps now? That’s adorable. If it was “news 8 months ago,” why can’t you provide a single credible source confirming Trump was convicted and sentenced? Where’s the official court record? Where’s the global coverage? Spoiler: it doesn’t exist because it didn’t happen.
Throwing tantrums and insults won’t change the fact that your entire claim is based on fantasy. Calm down, take a breath, and come back when you’re ready to debate with actual facts instead of shouting nonsense
@Twalli Wow, that’s a lot of word salad with zero substance. Let’s clear a few things up: first, Trump hasn’t been convicted of anything, so this whole “unconditional release” and “criminal registry” nonsense is just a made-up scenario in your head. Second, gag orders have nothing to do with a conviction—they’re about limiting public comments during ongoing legal cases. Trying to use this as proof of a conviction is laughable.
If you want to argue legal precedent, at least start with a factual basis. Until you can prove Trump was convicted with real evidence—not imaginary scenarios or irrelevant terms—you’re just spinning your wheels.
@goaded oh so now we are in the name-calling phase— a sign someone’s run out of actual arguments. You’ve provided nothing but recycled talking points, fake claims, and links to random, irrelevant nonsense (but somehow I'm the lying moron.) If yelling and insults are all you’ve got left, it just proves I’ve won this debate.
Facts don’t care about your feelings. Trump hasn’t been convicted, Biden is a disaster, and no amount of yelling will change reality. Maybe take a breather before embarrassing yourself further
@goaded Sick of my 'nonsense'? That’s rich considering you’ve done nothing but shout insults and post a random link that doesn’t prove a thing. If that link actually supported your claim, you wouldn’t need to keep yelling—you’d let it speak for itself. But it doesn’t, which is why you’re stuck trying to shout me into submission.
I’ve followed facts and logic from the start, and the fact remains: Trump hasn’t been convicted or sentenced for anything. No amount of screaming about your imaginary evidence will change that. it also won't change that you only got 4 more days to enjoy your comfort zone
@Filthy_Immigrant abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=98389444 That makes a full 10 news stories that confirm you're full of shit.
@goaded Thanks for proving my point—your own link doesn’t confirm a conviction or sentencing. It’s just a timeline of the DA’s case and mentions indictments, not guilty verdicts or sentencing. Indictments are accusations, not proof of guilt, and the legal process is far from over.
Stop pretending these links back your claims when they clearly don’t. Try again when you have actual evidence of a conviction, not just another article that proves nothing
Jan. 10, 2025
Saying that "we must be respectful of the office of the presidency," New York Judge Juan Merchan sentences Donald Trump to an unconditional discharge -- without prison, fines or probation -- as Trump attends the proceedings virtually from his Mar-a-Lago estate. The judge says it's the "only lawful sentence" to protect "the office of the president... not the occupant of the office," and that those protections "do not reduce the seriousness of the crime or justify its commission in any way."
abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=98389444
@goaded Ah, so this is your big 'gotcha moment'? Hate to break it to you, but even your own quote doesn’t prove Trump was convicted of any crimes. It mentions an 'unconditional discharge,' which literally means no prison time, no fines, no probation—basically nothing. And that’s assuming this even happened, which hasn’t been confirmed by any credible source.
You’re trying so hard to twist words into something they’re not, but all you’ve done is prove there’s no actual conviction or meaningful sentence here. Thanks for doing my job for me
@Twalli he was 'recently sentenced'? That’s funny because even the quote your buddy shared earlier mentions an 'unconditional discharge,' which means no prison, fines, or probation—basically nothing. Plus, no credible source has confirmed a conviction or meaningful sentence in the hush money case.
If you're going to keep pushing this narrative, at least provide actual proof instead of vague claims and hearsay. Until then, your argument is just as empty as before
@goaded You ought to be ashamed for doubling down on lies and fake "evidence." Your own quote about an "unconditional discharge" proves there was no meaningful sentence or conviction. And if this were true, why isn’t it front-page news across the U. S. and the world? Because it’s not real.
You can scream "10 sources" all you want, but none of them show an actual conviction. Until you bring verifiable proof—not cherry-picked nonsense—you’re just embarrassing yourself with this tantrum. Facts don’t change because you’re upset
@goaded We both know you’re projecting. None of your so-called ‘10 sources’ prove Trump was convicted or sentenced, and you know it. You keep throwing out the same baseless claims, hoping repetition will make them true. Newsflash: it doesn’t.
Stop projecting your denial onto me and show real evidence—not cherry-picked nonsense or irrelevant links. Until then, your argument is just empty words, and we both know it.
@Twalli So which is it? Did Trump admit guilt, or does he deny it? You’re contradicting yourself in the same breath. And let me make it easy for you: Trump hasn’t admitted guilt because there’s no conviction to admit. If he was “found guilty,” there’d be verifiable proof in official court records, not this made-up nonsense you’re peddling.
Try again when you have consistent facts instead of contradictory rambling.
@goaded Calling me a liar doesn’t change the fact that none of your so-called 'sources' actually prove Trump was convicted or sentenced. If they did, you’d have posted clear, undeniable evidence by now—like a court ruling or official record. Instead, you keep repeating the same false claims, hoping no one notices your lack of proof.
It’s not my job to believe your cherry-picked articles or spin. Either provide hard evidence, or admit you’re wrong. Blaming me for pointing out the truth doesn’t make your argument any less empty.
till then see you in 3 more days
@goaded yes he is, and your stubborn attitude is precisely why I didn’t feel like argue with bullshit in that other question were you deleted my answer.
You are just a foreigner who for some inane reason is hellbent on defending American leftists from people who rightfully dislike them.
@filthy_immigrant You have the patience of a saint
And by the way @goaded I was open to conversing with you in that other question. Provided you didn’t post anti-Right bullshit. I wrote something to that effect. You replied with anti-Right bullshit anyway, so I made my final reply, then you deleted my answer. Now that you did that, I am not going to discuss it further here either, just wanted to make it clear due to your update on that other question.
Here in this conversation my original intent was just to tell @filthy_immigrant he is right. Because he is.
@goaded Claiming ‘everybody’ agrees with you is just a weak attempt to feel validated. If Trump was really ‘indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced,’ you’d have actual proof to show—court records, credible news coverage, something. But instead, you just keep repeating the same empty talking points without evidence.
Reality doesn’t care about your feelings, and baseless accusations don’t make something true. If you can’t back up your claims, stop pretending everyone else shares your delusions.
@Filthy_Immigrant He's posted enough coverage regarding it. It just hasn't come from your denial echo chamber. That's why you won't accept it. I bet that if he posted "proof" of the moon landing you'd doubt that too if the orange antichrist told you that he didn't believe it. He never denied that he was on trial, he never denied that a jury convicted him of all counts. He denied he was guilty (although not the jury's decision) and he denied that it was anything other than political. His trial was pretty big news when it was taking place. That's pretty much all that most news stations talked about. Not all of us were comatose the entire time his trial was taking place, only becoming conscious during the RNC national convention. In fact, most of us were aware of what was happening because we were not comatose then.
Ah @goaded so anyone who disagrees with your baseless claims is either ‘ignorant’ or a ‘troll’? How convenient. It’s funny how you keep calling us liars when you still haven’t provided actual proof for your claims. Repeating the same nonsense and throwing tantrums doesn’t make it true.
The reality is simple: Trump hasn’t been convicted or sentenced, and your inability to back up your argument proves you’re the one ignoring the facts. Maybe stop insulting others and focus on actually defending your position—if you even can.
@Twalli you can continue Cheerleading his nonsense all you want but that still doesn't make it true. You can repeat ‘Trump was convicted’ all you want, but if there’s no evidence—no court records, no official documentation, nothing—it’s just noise. Insults like ‘orange antichrist’ and blaming a mythical ‘echo chamber’ don’t change the fact that this supposed conviction never happened.
If you have actual proof, bring it. Otherwise, keep waving your pom-poms from the sidelines because you’re adding nothing to the conversation but hot air and as person who already contradicted himself numerous of times this doesn’t surprise me about you
@goaded congratulations and Thanks for finally admitting Trump wasn’t sentenced to jail, fined, or punished in any meaningful way. ‘Sentenced’ to nothing is just another desperate attempt to twist the narrative, and it still leaves Trump free to lead and win. Keep crying, because facts aren’t on your side!
@goaded you’re doing mental gymnastics just to say, ‘Trump was sentenced… to nothing.’ Thanks for proving my point that it was all political theater with zero actual punishment. Keep pretending a slap on the wrist is a win while the rest of us focus on real victories—like Trump reclaiming the White House in less than 48 hours!
@Filthy_Immigrant We never said he was sentenced to jail or punished in any meaningful way, we said that he was sentenced, which he was. Really the only thing that changes is that he now has a criminal record. He's a convicted felon, no jail time, no fine, but on the criminal registry. For someone who is so obsessed with their public image, that's probably pretty steep for Trump, for me I wouldn't care if that was what I got, because I only care what a select few think of me and I don't care what others think of me.
@goaded Your obsession with ‘indicted, tried, convicted, sentenced’ is adorable when the outcome was… nothing. No jail, no fines, no probation—just empty political posturing. Call it a ‘sentence’ all you want, but actions speak louder than your mental gymnastics. Trump’s about to reclaim the White House, and that’s the real headline. Hate it or love it!
@Twalli So now the story changes? First, it was ‘Trump was sentenced’ with all the dramatic flair. Now it’s ‘oh, he just has a record.’ Newsflash: an ‘unconditional discharge’ isn’t a punishment, it’s a slap on the wrist. If this is the victory you’re clinging to, you’ve got nothing. Meanwhile, Trump’s still leading and about to take the White House. Keep spinning, it’s entertaining.
Till then I hope you’re not tired yet cause you got 4 more years to go
@Filthy_Immigrant So now your story changes. All of the things I've said are true. You've spent a week defending saying "Trump was NOT indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced for 34 felonies", which was a lie. Now, you're backpedalling.
Five days ago I quoted OANN saying the same thing that you're now choosing to accept but attempting to diminish. Trump is a convicted felon. The only reason he wasn't punished more is because he's conned his way back into the presidency.
@goaded Backpedaling?
That’s funny coming from someone who spent a week insisting Trump was sentenced and punished. Now you’re down to ‘he just has a record.’ Admit it, you oversold your argument and got caught. Meanwhile, Trump’s gearing up for his next term while you cling to meaningless labels.
But by any means, Keep coping.
You two are hilarious. @Twalli pretends the ‘sentence’ was significant when it’s literally just a symbolic slap on the wrist, and now you @goaded clings to this idea of backpedaling. I’ve been consistent: Trump wasn’t jailed, fined, or meaningfully punished. Keep spinning narratives if it helps you sleep at night, but the facts don’t care about your feelings.
And whether the two of you like it or not, he is still entering the White House in less than 24 hours
@Filthy_Immigrant I am not arguing that is was significant, just that it happened, which you now seem to agree with. The problem was that you assumed a seemingly meaningless sentence=no sentence, which is not true. If you argued that is changed nothing and was essentially useless, then we wouldn't be arguing. The problem is that you originally claimed that he wasn't even on trial.
Considering he said he owns a gun and is now a felon, I wonder when his gun will get taken away
How about... Donald vi America, the 47th Emperor of America?
Just kidding, He's going to be Donald Trump, the 47th President of the United States of America. No matter what those who spit all this hate at Him do.
''Your Imperial, Divine and Enlightened Highness and Fuehrer''?
The First Felon and Mr twice Impeached reelected based solely on Mr mounds if lies.
I could refine that if I wasn't so tired
At the very least his election makes it clear that ex-cons can successfully run for president. I like that precedent.
Still, it’s nice to see that it’s not illegal for ex-cons to run
He will be a felon for a short time. After the appeal his record will be expunged.
But a paid unfelony is fake. No?
@dustybiker2 it will not be paid for. The Supreme Court will make the ruling. I would have more faith in them than Juan Mercham of Fat Alvin Bragg
@exitseven who do you think appointed the supreme court judge that sways for him. Same dif.
"@goaded and yet they trotted him out as the star witness. A serial liar."
Strangely enough, it's the people who commit crimes who know the most about them.
If you could find a nun who was in on the planning of a crime, she'd be a better witness, perhaps, that that doesn't happen very often, does it?
Besides, the falsified documents all had Trump's signature on them.
@dustybiker2 President Trump appointed them but the Congress had to approve it. We all saw how that panned out.
Oh, and by the way: the lies Cohen was found to have told were on Trump's behalf.
"[Cohen said] the Trump Moscow project had ended in January 2016... that he never agreed to travel to Russia in connection with the project and never considered asking Trump to travel for the project... that he did not recall any Russian government contact about the project, including any response to an email that he had sent to a Russian government email account. ... [that was all] false and misleading."
upload.wikimedia.org/.../...sidential_Election.pdf
I'll address him as the felon who broke your vagina
The phony trial (and two assassination attempts) was a major component of why he was reelected. He'll be inaugurated as a felon but the conviction will be thrown out on appeal.
@Dongie There is a name for the behaviour You described. It's called doublethink. With a touch of blackwhite and duckspeak.
@CalmUntilAbused
Thank you, Calm.
@Dongie You're welcome. Here's to "Nineteen Eighty-Four" never even coming close to becoming reality again.
@CalmUntilAbused Yes, and it's you doing it.
"Calling Trump a felon is like calling Hitler a pacifist."
" "indicted" and "convicted" are not the same thing "
"The phony trial..."
@goaded Well, the first comparison is a bit extreme, but correct nonetheless. Calling soon-to-be President Donald Trump a felon for felonies that never happened is like calling H*tler a pacifist for his effort to keep peace in Europe... that also never happened.
The second line is perfectly correct in and of itself. One issue with it would be that the lawfare-based New York trial did end up with a conviction, and even though there was no punishment, the corrupt judiciary system in New York achieved at least the minimum goal, which was making soon-to-be President Donald Trump formally a felon. However, a subsequent appeal can still overturn this phony conviction, so You are really jumping the gun here.
As for the third line... Yes, the trial was phony, since it was part of a heinous lawfare campaign against soon-to-be President Donald Trump. There is nothing to add here.
@CalmUntilAbused Except the felonies did happen, and Trump did commit them.
The second one was someone claiming Trump is not a felon. He is.
No, it was the only hint of justice your country got for Trump's crimes.
Every president is guilty of something & if they aren’t it isn’t very presidential.
Calling Trump a felon is like calling Hitler a pacifist.
Jail should be his address. XD
Just call him "Don the Con"
u The president.
Elons bitch ;)
@autonation see ya! 👋 😘
President elect Trump
President Trump.
Biden is a genius.
President Trump.
Lord President Trump
Orange Con Rad
King of the Barons LP Remix
Call him Daddy Trump.
Surely God is acceptable
The felon who beat the left. LMFAO
Mr. President-Con !!!
You respect Biden? LOL
How should we address you?
Sir.
Fuhrer Trump
President Trump.
He is still the president and honor has to be given to him.
No. Whether he respects Biden or not that's his problem.
The headman of your country should be shown honor regardless of how you feel about him.
The office, not the man.
“The Department’s view that the Constitution prohibits the continued indictment and prosecution of a President is categorical and does not turn on the gravity of the crimes charged, the strength of the Government’s proof, or the merits of the prosecution, which the Office stands fully behind. Indeed, but for Mr. Trump’s election and imminent return to the Presidency, the Office assessed that the admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction at trial.”
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