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Trending & News Some form of acknowledgement, of abuses and admission it was wrong?



My take on it is probably going to be pretty controversial but to say that black Americans haven't had a massive disadvantage in this country both historically and today. It's getting better and we've come farther than people think. Still the reality is the damage done to black Americans by the slave trade is part of why black people in a lot of places are struggling to get out of poverty in America they never really recovered as a people because they still faced discrimination and still do to an extent.
People go on and on about black crime, but the reality is they are misrepresenting the statistics. If you go to impoverished black neighborhoods, you find a lot of crime, but you know what? Statistically when you go to an impoverished white community the crime is about the same statistically. Crime in America is a poverty issue not a race issue and it just so happens that a lot of black people are poor because of the way they've been treated since they were freed.
I think that black Americans should recieve reperations for a lot of reasons not just these, but since the government was the one that permitted and endorsed slavery then the government should make the payments not the average people What happened to your ancestors at my ancestors' hands doesn't make me guilty for something they did. The sins of the father should not pass down to the son this was the governments fault it's theirs to fix.
Even if you look at it from and economic perspective it would be good for the economy too in the long run. By lifting more people out of poverty you encourage them to do things like start small business, invest, and buy things like luxury goods because they can afford to spend their money since they are out of poverty. Poor people don't stimulate the economy they drain on it so every person who gets their finances together helps boost our economic output.
This is why so many massive million-dollar budget video games keep flopping and people in the industry are losing money and getting laid off. Every day there's a dozen new video games and most people can only afford one game a month with how much they cost so most average games are just ignored because they cost too much especially triple A.
If people are poor, they don't spend money, if they don't spend money, they don't stimulate the economy, and when the economy doesn't have a steady flow of people buying and selling things it causes an economic down spiral. They're American citizens and they deserve a fair chance. That said I'm 100% against any and all DEI things because they've just become a legal way to discriminate and not just against white people Asians, black people, and others too. There are people who are bi-Racial getting rejected for a job they're qualified for because "They're not black ENOUGH." It's sick it was meant to level the playing field but all it did was make things worse.
It already happened a long time ago. All you are doing is displaying that you are an ignoramus and that your parents were also ignoramuses because they did not teach you properly and that their parents were ignoramus because they didn't teach your parents correctly. You must come from a long line of idiots because Abraham Lincoln as President of the United States of America clearly stated among much other rhetoric of the times
"I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong. I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel. And yet I have never understood that
the Presidency conferred upon me an unrestricted right to act officially upon this judgment and feeling. It was in the oath I took that I would, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.” - Abraham Lincoln to Albert G. Hodges, April 4, 1864
You had an official admission by the President of the United States long ago that slavery was in fact wrong. Through the Emancipation Proclamation that was signed on January 1, 1863 to free the slaves a reversal of policy was signed into law and all states that didn't honor the new found freedom of former slaves were considered in rebellion by the United States government. A Civil War among Americans occurred and roughly 698,000 soldiers died as a result of that war. Roughly 2% of the American population was wiped out. When you consider that only 1% of southerns had large plantations with numerous slaves, you pretty much wiped out most of the people that would be responsible for an apology through warfare. Most normal people could not afford slaves, they were too expensive. Most normal people lived impoverished lives and barely survived. It's only the aristocracy and those close to them that were slavers.
To further the matter all the way back in 1816 America started sending freed slaves back to Africa that wanted to return. In 1847 the colony that was formed turned into the nation of Liberia. America not only admitted slavery was wrong, but freed slaves, and gave them their own country in Africa where they came from if they wanted to return. Many freed slaved, wished to stay in the United States of America, and they were allow to stay and enjoy their new found freedom if they choose to do that. All of these issues were settled long before you or I were born. The fact that people are still crying like little bitches about being born free in the world's greatest nation is a testament to their weakness as a people. Those that wanted their own country left and returned to Africa. Those that wanted to stay in the United States did, yet they raised a bunch of limp dick soy boys that never learn how to be a man, how to take responsibility for their own lives and educations, and to learn to integrate and live among a diversity of many people from all over the world that appreciate their freedom.
If you don't like it here, you should leave. You were given multiple stimulus checks during the pandemic which were enough to fly on a commercial airline most places in the world. In Liberia for example, African Americans are highly welcomed due to their shared history. If you were to go there and get a job and establish residency it wouldn't be unfathomable that they would grant you citizenship. Stop being such a cry baby about shit that never happened to you and make decisions in your life that will improve your situation.
It is symbolic to apologize. For example if your child broke a window you apologize and pay for the window... you did not actually do it but you still apologize because its the right thing to do.
Yeah but, it was MY child and they broke the window VERY RECENTLY!! NOT a century and 5 or 6 generations ago!!
@FunkyMonkee Ha ha ha... obviously not a student of philosophy.
Ha ha ha... obviously not a student of logic..
What purpose would it serve? We all know what it was and that it was wrong. It doesn't do anything
There is a value in apologies in my view in general. Do you agree? Has noone ever apologized to you?
you live by the law of live and let die...
chomo? It's unfortunate. Without making amends, there is only hardness. That is the world.
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No. Not for slavery because slavery had existed throughout human history and did not begin with the Americas.
Besides, slavery is a distant memory and doesn't effect anyone who is alive today.
More shameful was the policy of racial segregation. Southern Democrats are mostly responsible for that.
Racial segregation was unique to the USA. It was beyond shameful. It was also responsible for embedding racism into several generations of white people.
The economic and cultural effects have not yet been healed.
However, I don't see how a formal apology would help. It would only add fuel to the fire and encourage BLM and radical left-wing activists to push for more things like restitution, DEI, 1619 project, resentment toward "whites", and hatred toward the USA.
If the government apologizes to blacks for slavery or segregation, what about Native Americans, Spanish settlers and Mexicans whose land was stolen, Hawaiians, people in the Caribbean, the Philippines and the Pacific islands, Central and South America, Africa and Asia? There is an endless list of people and places that the U. S. and other colonial powers fucked over the past 500 years. But how would a mere apology help if we continue to fuck them?
While we are at it, we could stop supporting continued imperialism and genocide in places like Palestine and Syria.
Yes there are many areas of wrongs.
Yes, continuing to screw over people (if we/they are) and apologizing is not genuine. Maybe humanity is such a mess it is not possible.
Ignoring the past is kinda... cold. Its seems either genuine recognition of wrong is made which one hopes improves relationship... that is how it is in intimate relationship to some extent... else caluses build up. Or, people just move on... but the pain is embedded. We see this in Korea/Japan as the pains of the past still exit. I view most of those where amends not made, like dormant volcanos.
I don't have an issue with apologizing to groups for wrongs... when it is genuine.
@lightbulb27. I agree.
Agreed. Apologies are not for the the victim but the transgressor. Sincere contrition never hurts anybody
@DrPepper12. True. And few people have anything to apologize for.
sorry no. slavery was and is a worldwide problem before the United States was formed and continues AFTER the United States has fought to abolish it. This whole thing of trying to blame "whitey" for it is just bull poop, and history has shown it. Even obama, the most racist president in our history knew this and chose not to offer an apology for the country, as even he knew that "reparations" would be wrong.
The weird freaks in the comments blaming "slavery" for why black people struggle to get rich today are delusional. "The struggle" is cultural. How many gold chains and $3,000 outfits do they really need? The desire to not achieve upward mobility, is due to a stronger desire to get free shit and stay on welfare and government aid--not because of slavery.
The fact that this is the ONLY history of slavery that bothers these people is all the proof we need that it's more about an agenda that overcoming our past. And the fact that people have their hand out looking for more free stuff, for something that they never had to deal with only further proves this point.
"people was rude to my great grandpappy", gimme munney". 🤣 No. Thank. You.
"Siri, how would a ignorant bigot answer this question?"
How many of the abusers are alive to apologize? How many blacks have thanked the Quaker families that helped them escape to freedom. Whites to Native Americans. When did catholicism apologize to protestants for "0pen Season" on those who they termed Heretic. Germans to Jew, Rwandans to Rwandans. The list goes on. Social change is slow and very shaky, two steps forward and one step back. I hope America does not backslide on the advancement and progess it has made. If it helps I am sorry for the hardship you have suffered, and you are welcome to the help my family gave prior to the civil war. and as far a catholicism is concerned, we are both taught our trespasses will be forgiven as we forgive those who trespass against. PEACE
As an old farmer once told me "IF you keep stirring up that cow turd, it will never stop stinking"
yes, there is a lot of wrongs on the path of this life...
No. Your ancestors sold one another into slavery for a barrel of rum because they were murderers. Slavery was like a "get out of a death sentence free" card. You worked for a second chance at a life you never deserved in the first place.
No apology needed.
Byu the way, your ancestors were cannibals and continued eating one another right up until the year 1918 in Africa. You should be advised that there can be "ten generations" of cannibals in a row and they all go to Hell.
I don't expect you to understand that, because black people today think they are entitled to everything. YOu do not get reparations. You're lucky we don't enslave your sorry criminal asses again.
No, Slaves have died, so have the People who owned slaves...
Using an Centuries old Excuse to Flip the Power Dynamic is not acceptable..
America has been Fair to all for long enough..
Days of Using a Victim mentally to Prey upon America and America Citizen should be over..
If you stay in The Nation where slaves were purchased from , if American visit that place.. American should apologise there, but if races that were slaves come to USA. Than no apology should be expected.
And Black Slaves Were Sold By Other Black People to white people..
Black People Owned Other Black People as Slaves and that is the True History!..
No, you cannot blame the country for the acts of individuals.
But if you have to blame anyone the you have start with the first Slave Owner in the United States, which was Anthony Johnson was an Angolan man who became a wealthy farmer and landowner in Virginia and Maryland. He won a lawsuit in 1655 that recognized his right to own an African servant for life, making him the first slave owner in America, and he was not the only Black Slave Owner in the United States (see this Page- historycollection.com/.../ ), they were often more brutal to their Slaves than the majority of White Slave Owners.
yeah we can start by having white liberal men and white liberal women pay reparations to the black community
white liberal men and white liberal women apparently have good paying jobs unlike other the broke demographics who voted for Trump
they can donate all their finances and assets so the black community doesn't have to do anymore abortions and put their money where their mouth is if they care so much
It costs nothing and is appropriate. Yes.
Reparations? No way!
I suspect some fear could lead to $.
I'd shut that shit down quick. Reparations are a non starter from this flaming lib
I wonder if Africa has stated anything to this end or offered reparations for the enslavement and selling of rival tribes.
And, some of my white Irish ancestors were slaves and treated MUCH worse than the black slaves were!! Where are MY apologies and reparations?
Same here but, switch Cherokee with Slovack and it's probably 33% Irish, 13% Scottish, 25% German and 25% Slovack.
Grandma claims she was from German royalty. Bow to me, peasant!
doubt it but they should.
Why? The people who the apology is directed towards are long dead for one, and two why should someone apologize for something someone else did when they weren't even alive.
Also, it's kind of hard to take them seriously and sympathize with them, after Anthony Bourdain said that the freed slaves that ended up being sent to Liberia, ended up oppressing the blacks who were already living there. There were also black slaves owners
recognition of wrongs
I'm not excluding African countries from apologizing either... your point is valid!
H**L to the YES, but since You-Know-Who is President, it won't happen as he and the REPIGLIKSCAM would have approved of slavery.(Yes, the Democrats were slavery and Jim Crow supporters, but after Pres. Lyndon Johnson signed the Voting and Civil Rights Act, the REPIGLIKSCAM Party began its more-than-half-century appeal to Dixiecrat segregationists and other racist Dems, hence, the modern GOP. ("Goobers, Oddballs, Popinjays").
@Dongie And you'll keep sucking YOUR Massa's tiny,78-year-old c**k.(I'm a critical thinker, someone you can't hope to be, boyo!!!)
@Dongie Say you, honKKKie!!! I read more books yesterday than you have in your whole miserable, stinkin' life, a**hole. And Pres. Johnson's 1965 speech about you trailer trash voting REPIGLIKSCUM because they tell the worst white folk (you) they're better than the best black folk (me) so the overlords can pick your pocket is even more true today than three generations ago because you've had sixty years to learn about selling your a** to the LOWEST bidder because they buttress your bigotry, and you're even dumber than ever !!!
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give the democrats more fuel for their reparations mandate fantasy, hell no
Wouldn't hurt, even though they were not responsible for it. Maybe try to get Britain and Spain and maybe France to apologize. They are the ones who started it and kept it alive.
Should you ask for apologies from West African tribal chieftains, Muslims, the Spanish, British, French, Romans, Egyptians, Babylonians, etc or only just White Protestant American men?
It's kind of like me apologizing to my cousins for my grandpa cheating on my grandma
if there were any slaves still alive they deserve an apology. Why apologies to their great great great grandchildren?
Contrition never hurt anyone
@DrPepper12 But why take a chance?
I'm PRETTY SURE that ALL those slaves are dead, by now as are their owners.
Only if you personally were a slave. Your are entitled to nothing if your merely related.
The trillions in welfare was enough.
Yes, but it will never happen.
Some things are unforgivable.
I wasn't there whipping the whip.
No..
Does this matter at this point?
Fuck no
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