Does France represent a threat to global security?

[Jebbekele124]

[Effably]

"Someone said we're immoral and they have equally scary weapons so we can't bully them to apologize, they are a threat to the world!".

No. For once, and I can not believe I am writing this. Sacre bleu. The French are the good guys.

Of course, there is an alternative where if they aligned with the US/Russia blackmail of Ukraine, Ukraine which was enlisted to fight a proxy war on US behalf, would have had no choice but to sign away 40% of its country's worth. Basically condemning the country to financial long term ruin and its people to poverty before being assimilated.

There is an awkward situation here. Ukraine suggested a mineral deal as a peace offer. The offer in short? USA and Russia both get a slice of Ukraine. In exchange, Russia stops the war, USA commits to defending Ukraine if they breach the deal. Alternatively NATO membership (a lot more attractive than USA promises) but that is a bit greedy and both USA and Hungary would block it.

The revised deal offered by Trump, which ended up refused, said that Russia and USA take a larger slice. Offer no guarantees of peace at all. And Ukraine, outside of having no safety, is forbidden from trying to become safe and must also pretend it is at fault for the whole thing. There was never a way for Ukraine to accept it. That deal was never made to be accepted. It was made for the sole reason of pretending to broker peace and setting up the victim of the story as the bad guy. Step one in assimilation propaganda.

Now. Lets be real. The war was provoked. While Russia is ultimately guilty, Russia was forced. Russia was never going to allow Ukraine a membership in Nato. Russia was also never going to allow the military buildup Ukraine was told to do. Both prompted by NATO, at the behest of USA, with guarantees of membership and support. This was warmongering but fine. Millions of lives would be lost. USA wanted a proxy war to weaken Russia. One was created. So far, business as usual. Ugly business, but same old.

To now wash their hands of it, demand a slice of the country sacrificed, and offer absolutely nothing in return? France is, for once, right. What the hell? Its like asking your buddy to fight the bully for you, because you've got their back. They do. Then you mug your friend after they get their ass beat. Shittiest friend in history.

The only way the French are the bad guys is that they are the only side we can expect to be reasonable. And reasonable people are expected to make compromises when unreasonable people make demands. That said, if a moral high ground ever existed, they are firmly planted on it.

To give your question some credibility, they are enabling the continuation of the war. But. USA changing the mineral deal and not just refusing to themselves give securitis but outright blocking security guarantees from others? That outright stopped a lasting peace. There is a bad guy in this story. The one enabling, forcing, starting, profiting from and then refusing any accountability for their actions? Pretty likely bad guy. Please understand these things happen a lot. It is mostly that it has been very poorly handled this time.

It sounds like a bad movie plot. But I am really just recounting events.

[msc545]

This is ridiculous. The French have no propensity for starting wars at all. On the other hand, the United States has a market propensity for starting war after war after war, which it is done ever since its inception for economic reasons. The United States has completely unregulated capitalism which demands a constant flow of money in business. The French have a modified form of capitalism that is closely monitored and is not given them any trouble. For many, many years. The French are not a security problem. The United States is a security problem.

[Pet68]

Ah yes. Scott Ritter. The well-known, but supremely misinformed, apologist for Putin's aggression against Ukraine who has been saying almost since the war began that "Ukraine is losing, can't they see that? They should give up, just stop fighting". That guy is a nutcase.

As for France being a "threat to global security", no, it isn't. Under Daffy Trump the real threat comes from the United States, not France or any other nation with the obvious exceptions of Israel and Russia.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

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Oh yes, ofc, french gov will throw nuclear baguettes and atomic croissants at USA for no reason at all. And they will take such an insane decision alone? While being tied to EU? Come on 🤣

[OneViewpoint]

I think the world is less concerned about France and intently focused on a nuclear armed fascist USA led by an unstable moron with multiple personality disorders and his cult of MAGA filth.

[msc545]

I think you are absolutely right about this.

[abc3643]

No because when France was a dominant power, that was in Europe. "Global security" is a new thing with the development of nuclear weapons and missiles.

[Anonymous]

Humm... Given our English civilization spent most of the last 900 years at war with the French. Is it really unreasonable not to assume the french will go back to their old frenchy ways in regard to the English speaking world?

[Dargil]

Friends does not represent much of anything on the global stage.

[UrsulaY]

You sound like a fearmongerer. France is not the issue at present.

[msc545]

Francis, also not the problem. As usual, the United States is the problem.

[Jessica405]

France is not an issue. Don't make it one.

[goaded]

France is currently a key player in Europe. Good luck to them.

[CandyRattt]

Jess, I Agree

[slatyb]

No, that would be the United States and Russia.

[Agape93]

... who the fuck is afraid of the french

[Pet68]

Well, apparently Americans are.

[Agape93]

No we aren't, we make fun of them on the regular as walking pussies.

[Pet68]

That's funny, because they do the same to you.

[Agape93]

So? Lol

[ImalwaysrightOK]

China is the only real threat.

[DrPepper12]

That is pure INSANITY

[RedInnocent69]

Yup. They’re fashion sense is to die for