We were once a great nation, but now are divided - rich against the poor - and the rich are winning. š We have people who can't afford their medicine or get treatment. We have people who are starving in our country and are living from paycheck to paycheck while the rich get tax cuts. Musk will never have to worry about any of this, yet he is telling everyone else that they are not working hard enough. š§
Our own people did this to us, is the crazy part. This wasnāt a hostile takeover, our citizens are ignorant, bigoted sellouts. Itās that simple. Only able to look at issues through the lens of āhow will this impact ME, my comfort, my habits of consumption, and āmy way of life?ā, they canāt see the big picture and donāt care if the benefits are directly FOR them. They hate seeing anyone else get positive things, they immediately go into this childlike mentality of āno fair! Whereās MINE?ā
I donāt know how we get out of this, honestly, because itās our very population thatās bad, this political situation is just symptomatic of how dumb and selfish weāve collectively become.
*they canāt see the big picture and donāt care if the benefits areNāT directly FOR them
@Dongie this is my view from my master bedroom. Howās yours?
https://imgur.com/a/i3NLSj8
Iām eating REAL good over here. Iām already possibly retired, weāll see if Trump fucks me out of that. Plenty of stuff to try to attack me on, but being poor aināt one of āem. Swing and a miss.
Oh, wow, gee wiz! What's that supposed to mean? I'm I to think that you are a millionaire that hates people for being a millionaire when you are one too? šµāš« what's up with the hate, then? Do you hate yourself? Nonsensical. My view is my backyard. I can't post pics off my phone but I wouldn't put a picture of my home or yard anyway. Not with the way your side treats people and their property.
Are you serious? That could also apply to the rich. " Only able to look at issues through the lens of āhow will this impact ME, my comfort, my habits of consumption, and āmy way of life?ā And of course how much money they will get out of it.
@Dongie I donāt hate people for how much money they do or donāt have. I care about the way their lack of or abundance of money causes them to behave, and just their general worldview and their resulting treatment of others.
Millionaires arenāt our problem. They canāt do anything to you. BILLIONAIRES, now weāre talking about something very different.
Iām only showing off the view as a retort to your claim that Iām poor and unmotivated. What I look at out the window doesnāt make me any better or worse than anyone else. My backyard grass is a mess right now, it got all fucked up on a leveling and re-seeding, long story. Yours probably looks better than mine, lmao.
@NoDecision I agree with you on that. Selfishness is universal, to a degree, itās about us all being conscious of it and trying to actively be better, individually.
Iād maybe just push back on the implied idea (I think this is what youāre saying, correct me if Iām wrong) that MAGA voters = regular everyday people, liberals = millionaires. Republicans have been long considered āthe party of owners and bosses.ā Liberals are the ones protecting the rights of workers and angling for better wages, benefits, etc. Republican (and especially MAGA) populist rhetoric claims otherwiseā¦. but thatās the whole hustle. I mean, they canāt just come out and be like āwe want to make working a more lopsided transaction than it already is.ā They have to tell you Democrats are stealing your tax dollars or letting criminals run wild or trying to cut your kidās penis off, lmfao.
None of these things are true, or at very worst theyāre nuanced societal issues that they deliberately characterize in the worst possible way to make it seem shocking and egregiously negligent, and arenāt as bad or functionally out of control as they make it out to be. This is all Political Rhetoric 101 stuff.
@NoDecision So I guess where Iām trying to get to, before I go off on twelve different tangents, is ādonāt confuse ārichā with āwealthy.ā The wealthy are enemies of the rich just like theyāre enemies of the middle and working classes. That ārichā guy with six local hardware stores and a lumber yard doesn't like Home Depot and Loweās, owned by billionaires.
And I guess the initial point of dispute with my quote you highlighted, if Iām being totally honest, I see much more willingness to sacrifice comforts from the left in order to improve this, that, or the third thing than I do from Republicans and specifically MAGA. Like one of the main things I notice about MAGA folks is that they all are just living in this constant state of what Iād argue is largely irrational panic that something will be taken from them, usually as it relates to doing good for others, or nature, or whatever. Like I said, I definitely concede selfishness as fairly universal when unchecked, and Iād probably say that liberal selfishness comes more in the way of not practicing what theyāre preaching, whereas conservative selfishness is openly stated. And we can go around and around about which, if either, is worse, but I guess my take on that would be āIād rather you at very least say the right things, even if ultimately hollow, because it still contributes to promoting a general societal attitude thatās positively-vibed, and being openly selfish and combative can create a poor culture.
@Dongie Lawn work season is upon usššš
Yes it is very sad. America was founded on the principle that every man (and woman) can make a good life for themselves and their families through honest work.
Unfortunately that dream is being quashed by the wealthy intentionally using their power to hold back low income individuals.
America has lost its way and the international community is not amused. You have voted in the Trump administration with full knowledge of what he was like and what he would do. Thus, USA have turned their back on allies, betrayed friends and have compromised international security and economics.
Shame on America.
No.
hopefully itās a wake up callā¦ but Americans are spoiled ā¦ so most will just whine and not going to changeā¦
those who are smart and work hardā¦ will continue to succeedā¦ itās basic survivalā¦no one really to blameā¦
ohā¦ soā¦urber eat or something are offering some kind of payment plansā¦
if one canāt pay for their own mealsā¦ yet able to pay for others to deliver their foodā¦ I think they are foolish to take on payment plans.
but heyā¦ people here are spoiled ā¦ hard work are for others.
and those rich people who are evil right?
this is 30 - 40 years of making. Most grew up this way. So what to do?
When you see how the federal government wastes money af home and abroad its no wonder us citizens are struggling. Did Gaza really need $50 million dollars worth of condoms before Christmas while Israel was bombing them?
I didn't hear about that. Are you sure that is even true? $50 mil can buy a hell of a lot of condoms. And who is even thinking of sex when they are dodging bombs?
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I think itās sad we are in this situation. But who are the bad guys really? Maybe there are people they want you to think are the bad guys who are really not maybe they arenāt perfect but maybe they want prosperity while other groups donāt.
Think about the middle class. There is a certain side that wants to eliminate the middle class who oddly enough tend to be rich billionaires and millionaires. Many democrats are very wealthy (as well as republicans) making a lot more then their official salaries. But how? Insider trading? Keeping us poor and dependent while acting like they want to help us. But if you start working or earning more money you loose your benefits.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Maybe itās about finding who the ruling class is. Seeing what factions may be more nefarious then one may want to believe.
If you are a Bible believing Christian then you know this is just a means to an end. Prophecies still have to be fulfilled. Can you see America allowing a āone world government ā to come into being? I donāt. Which means America probably wonāt have much power when that happens? And it will happen.
@nawtee_me But, since the Republicans have the Presidency and a majority in the House and Senate, it could happen. That would be basically like a Monopoly.
Actually, a broligarchy.
@NoDecision right now Russia, China, Iran, Canada and even more countries are pissed at America and would go to war before letting America rule the world. Nope, we will be gone and the Communist will take overā¦
I agree. Thank God we have a president who is committed to getting rid of taxpayer waste. He truly understands that people need to retain their income as much as possible to afford these things. He's committed to stopping the invasion of illegals into our country, and lowering taxes for everyone.
Seems to me he is more interested in lowering the taxes of his Billionaire buddies.
How so @NoDecision
The ones that get tips at work or the ones working overtime at the plant? Those billionaires?
@NoDecision He is floating the idea of no income tax for anyone making less than 150k. Are they billionaires?
All that but no referrals, no indictments, no LEAKS of either, no twitter teases, no nothing. Yeah. Great proof.
Still not a indictment. Not ever a referral
@seeyounexttuesday Floating is one thing but actually doing it is another.
@NoDecision do you understand which branch of government sets tax policy?
@Dongie Do you see members of Congress working overtime? They take more time off for recess than they do actually answering to the constituents in the state they serve. If they got paid for the hours they actually worked they would be making minimum wage. šÆ
Try any family living ofd credit cardā¦ and then cut the card to pay the debt. Its awful. Thats where we are.
We all need to pull together and care and help so we go the right way.
I blame the prior politicians for bad decisions back to st least clinton.
Itās sad to see the country divided like this. Yes, there are serious challenges, like the widening gap between the rich and the poor, and the struggles many face in getting basic needs like healthcare and food. But we canāt ignore the fact that policies under Trump were designed to encourage growth, and under Musk, weāve seen immense technological progress. These billionaires may have resources we donāt, but that doesnāt mean they havenāt worked hard to get where they are.
The country isnāt perfect, but I still believe thereās hope if we focus on solutions that encourage growth, while also taking care of those who need help most.
- Eva ā¤ļø
The policies under Trump were designed to stimulate growth?
1. pardoning those that tried his first coup including white supremacists.
2. Clearing a way for more privately owned prisons
3. Deporting workforce people
4. Withdrawing from WHO, that's the thing that tries to prevent economic disasters from pandemics. But maga is thinking this is all Bidens fault and not covid so I can understand that /s.
5. Emptying and preventing the filling of missing government positions.
6. Trying to rename the gulf of mexico and other landmarks. š¤£
7. Withdrawing from paris climate accord.
8. Establishing Musk into a government control position so a single company owner has options to control the government.
If you think these sound like financial growth programs and not the establishment of a dictatorship, I have to ask you if you are in a cult because no one should be that blinded.
That being said, starting a trade war he was bound to lose from The start that increases prices for most things the average people need, which results in less purchasing power for the people.
Even Musk's own company stock crashed because of his own actions. These two are not financial masters they failed everything they touched so far. Musk always just threw money at things and hoped it would result in profit. If you have that much to lose of course at some point you are going to get positive results, but it's not a financial wise choice. Otherwise playing lotto would as well. Yes you can get lucky but its not probable.
You always try to sound nice but if you still support what trump is doing, you have to be hateful or blind. You cannot support trump without also supporting his hatred. Being "ok" with it for the purpose of something else is not an option at this point.
@msmissydc I appreciate you taking the time to write all that out, but I think youāre conflating a handful of controversial or even questionable decisions with the entirety of an administrationās economic and technological policy. Stimulating growth doesnāt mean every move made was flawless or universally agreed uponāit means policies were aimed at deregulation, job creation, domestic manufacturing, and incentivizing innovation. You can disagree with the execution, but pretending there wasnāt significant economic growth pre-pandemic or innovation acceleration under figures like Musk doesnāt reflect the full picture.
And supporting a former president doesnāt automatically make someone hateful or blind. People support candidates for a variety of reasonsāsome policy-based, some economic, some personalāand painting them all as cult members isnāt a productive or respectful way to engage in discourse. We need more conversations that bridge divides, not widen them.
ā Eva ā¤ļø
Lol, Trump and Elon are modern day robber barons. Trump will be defeated when the Democrats start to win seats. Elon will be defeated when Tesla goes below 150 bucks a share.
So both are skirting closer to defeat than you think.
Human history is rife with peasant rebellions against the noble classes. Pretty much most wars both civil and international have been fought along those lines. The peasants have always won in the end. There just needs to be a big enough spark to light the tinder.
I think that there is still a lot of opportunity in America. I teach computer science at a local college and I meet a lot of young people who are disadvantaged. These kids are getting college degrees for very little money and are having careers in Nursing, Dental Hygienists, X-Ray Technicians, Computer Technicians, HVAC workers and other well paying careers. I know that college is not for everybody but with some initiative and hard work most people can succeed.
Agree šÆā¦
The rest waste too much time complaining.
American Liberals are pretty much the only people I've ever spoken with who believe that to be true. Without fail, every single other group of people; conservatives, immigrants, illegals, foreigners who are watching from the outside; all of them still believe that this country has an unbelievable amount of opportunity and they actively chase it. American Liberals are the exception. They're the only ones who seem to find this opportunity perpetually out of reach.
that slogan was written when Biden was president.
it was referring to the hellhole that leftists put us through by allowing drag queens in our children's schools. making people believe they can magically change their genders and people using the restroom that doesn't correspond to them even if there are children in there at the time.
it has nothing to do with the rich and all the nonsense you speak of in your post
We all keep hearing the rich get tax breaks, but I have never seen proof that that is happening just people screaming the rich get tax break. How about you explain how people in government service making $175,000 a year become millionaires in 4 years when they get elected. How about asking that question of them as to how they become that rich so fast. The answer might be interesting!
I feel much the same way as you but probably vote the opposite. I support Musk and Doge Project as they are finding huge waste, corruption and fraud. They will find hinders of billions a year and maybe even 2 trillion a year in fraud, waste and corruption.
Democrats are part of the problem and so are Republicans. Musk is tearing it up along with Trump shutting down wholly unworkable government departments. This is the only viable path forward for us currently.
All that but no referrals, no indictments, no LEAKS of either, no twitter teases, no nothing. Yeah. Great proof.
@DrPepper12 Time will tell. A shit load has happened in just 2 months since January 20th. Think about it, 2 months. Hehe, 46 months to go :D
m and we vote and chose this...
either side, would not make it different... lol
This hit me hard in the soul.
I WAS ONCE WILLING TO GIVE MY LIFE FOR WHAT I BELIEVED THIS COUNTRY STOOD FOR.
TODAY, I WOULD GIVE MY LIFE TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM WHAT THIS COUNTRY HAS BECOME.
Jesus.
I agree, but how did we get here? Think about it. Did it all happen since January 20, 2025? Obviously not. Has it gotten worse since then? Nope. In fact, what we've seen, among other positive changes, is the identification and reversal of billions of dollars of fraud, waste and abuse by the federal government. Explain to me how anyone could be against that. It's HELPING US taxpayers.
I'm a Brit, and that sums up how I feel at the moment, the current Labour Government is wrecking the UK with malice.
The only way for rich to win againat poor is for the poor to have the same mindset as the rich.
You, are going to jump at any opportunity to get rich, objectively immoral regardless, aren't you?
"Can't afford medicine or get treatment" - what's stopping you from studying counless medicine textbooks available online for free, and treating people for free?
Speaking of medicine, depending on specialty it can be like liberal arts, volumes of infinitely revised theories that are plain wrong, such as virology. Many other branches you're better off self taught.
The result of a half-century of favouring the overlords over the 99.9999999999%.
It has always been like this but never noticed before
You are so blind. It's not rich against poor but liberal against the sane folks in this country and in all western countries.
It is a 'first world problem'. Does not even count in the top 10 problems that so many countries face around the world.
Once upon a time there was a champion who stood for the rights of a common man. We have since abandoned him.
In my opinion we deserve this.
It's the same all over, it's the same here in the uk especially with a cunt like keir starmer in charge
Trumps fixing it. I wish congress was doing the same, since they screwed up the system in the first place.
Let's stand for something, and make a change!
I don't know what's happened when our own people choose to reduce us to this.
What was the tax cut recently passed by Congress specifically for the rich?
Thatās really sad
Democrats caused it.
Trump will fix it..
Sad. It won't last forever
Yes ofcourse it's very sad unfortunately
What country is this?
No he's not. :p
Typical liberal
All nations fall, sooner or later.
Then why don't we get rid of the income tax?
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