5.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. That's false.
The Israel Defense Forces have a blockade on Gaza right now which a correct military action to take.
The aid boat that Greta Thunberg was on tried to break the blockade.
There was no "kidnapping", but her actions may make her an enemy combatant and that would be bad for her and the people on board - especially since the boat is operated by a de facto enemy propaganda organization, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump Administration labels her as a terrorist.
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I want to say something - especially to young people...
You need to get your shit together when it comes to war versus ideals and ideologies.
The mere fact that these people are "kidnapped" (Greta's and @asker's words) is indicative of mercy. If this was a real "total war" - like WW II - these people would be dead already... and the Palestinians in Gaza all dead or living as diaspora.
The purpose of war is to win it - as quickly as possible to minimize the threats and costs to your side. This is intuitive throughout history and has led to a lot of genocides because when all your enemies are dead, they won't ever seek revenge and you don't have to worry about them again.
Well, Israel has been taking a relatively merciful approach for almost 80 years. They fight to keep themselves alive from attack by neighbors and hostile forces. Some of those hostile forces - like Egypt and Jordan and Saudi Arabia - realized they could not win and established peace with Israel. But others, such as Hamas, Iran, and others, haven't learned and won't give up their idealistic goal of eliminating Israel. This has been going on since 1948 since the day Israel was created.
Well, after 80 years of constant wars and terrorist attacks, the Muslim world should be thankful that Israel hasn't been more harsh. Frankly, the time may come in which Israel takes even more drastic measures. And who's going to fight them? Israel has nuclear weapons which pretty much guarantees they remain existing. But, this Gaza War illustrates that the patience of Israel is running thin... And, frankly, even to someone like me who's been watching this shit for over 50 years.
I haven't exactly made my point, so I will try to do it now in light of the background I have just written...
There comes a point in people's lives - and this includes national psyches - when "enough is enough". You either solve the problem permanently or you give up.
It is important to understand this because this causes people to suddenly change in their behavior. They will go from calm and restrained to having a "just get it done at any cost" wrath because they are sick and tired of what's been going on.
The current war in Gaza is an example of this. Another example is the United States firebombing Dresden, Germany and Tokyo, Japan in WW II. The eventual dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan in WW II are yet more examples of this. Indeed, the scientists who developed the atomic bomb themselves were peaceful men, but they understood the darker side of human nature (and that the Germans would have been trying to develop the bomb too) and that WW II had to come to an end. With the atom bomb, it finally did.
But, like in WW II, those on the receiving end of that wrath often suffer greatly.
And, this has led to many genocides over the 2+ million year history of the human genus.
Greta Thunberg may be a brave and passionate young lady, but she's also a bit naïve about human nature and the real world. She may get killed at some point. I laud her for speaking about global warming, but getting involved in this war was not smart.
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No WMDs weren't and since then there have been agreements within the world order for LAWS OF ARMED CONFLICT that (not) surprisingly not all nations have signed as law.
Might is Right is NOT RULE OF LAW
Maybe if the US and it's controlling offshoot in the Middle East weren't so violent and interfering nations would have them and there would be a lesser problem in the Middle East. - 1 y
@Shiprex You need to start studying the law... and, also, understand its limits.
As for the blockade - which is about 20 years old - it's maintained with Egypt's help. It serves a simple function: to help prevent armaments to be used against Israel from entering Gaza.
Does this sound familiar? There was this thing called The Cuban Missile Crisis which was the same sort of thing; the US was going to blockade Cuba so as to prevent Russian nuclear-tipped missles from being deployed in Cuba. So, was that an "illegal blockade"? (Maybe under international law, but who enforces that?) Are you glad the blockade occurred? (You should be; it was a turning point in US-Soviet relations that ended-up improving things substantially.)
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1 yAs a jew, I hate what israel is doing. It's the modern version of the holocaust, only, this time, it's from israel
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3.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Blocking and detaining crew of a civil vessel outside your territorial waters is an act of piracy. Gaza is an autonomy and 12 sea mile zone if front of Gaza belongs to Gaze not to Israel.
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Anonymous(18-24)1 yShe legally tried to enter a country. Israel has good boarder control which is why their neighbours aren't able to enter legally
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u 1 yAre there ANY more facts about this that would be important to know before forming an opinion?
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many of them, including that Israel has said that it will deport all of them back to their home countries. That's hardly kidnapping.
@Melanie31: If you want to advocate for people who have actually been kidnapped, I suggest demanding that Hamas and other Palestinian terror groups release the hostages that they have kept in captivity since 10/7/23, which is 20 months of torture, sexual abuse, starvation, etc. - 1 y
Thunberg and a few other activists were already deported by Israel without any incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jRHiBguXRE
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1 yI applaud her courage, the place is a mess. I'd be curious how it go if she actually landed, because they really don't want us to see reality of it.
But if she did that anywhere she'd get caught, it's a war zone. Keeping her safe from it is necessary. And I'd wonder if hamas would take her prisoner like the others and she'd never been seen again outside a body bag. All shed have to do is tell them she's for womens rights, she's a lesbian now and she's there for Palestine (made up, probably not true) ! tears. Remember the Kmher Rouge... Hamas seems to be kind of like them.
With Israel, she will survive.
Do that in Russia, end up dead in a prison... like the woman that was a reporter got murdered/killed there. Do that in china, you gone for a long time. in USA, get deported back to sweden.
People gotta learn
Do that in California, they will will give you $ and place to live on the street, free drugs, free hospitalization and medical and dental.
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1 yShe was not kidnapped by Israel. Her boat illegally entered a naval blockade area off the coast of Gaza, and Israel stopped and seized the boat. She and everyone onboard were treated well, given water and sandwiches, and taken to Israel, where they are being arranged to go back to their home countries.
40 Reply 2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Well Greta doesn't understand the word blockade and the international law around this. In declaring a blockade the country must enforce it. Sorry Greta you fucked up by not checking the international law of the sea first.
Not to worry Israel is taking good care of her and running medical checks on why she can only scowl.
Since scowl derives from the viking languages, I think it will just turn out to be genetic for her to be a beserker and scowl.
Sweden is in no hurry to get her back and seems most inclined to dump her on Israel as their problem child.
While there is a deportation agreement between Sweden and Israel, there will probably be many months of careful diplomatic negotiations on who has to end up with her.
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1 yThis is a dumb post. No offense. Nobody knows if this is true. I personally doubt it is. If look how one uncheck post by a 17 year old has got you guys divided and divided real fast. You guys are calling each other names and wanting to nuke entire countries. All of that because of an uncheck news story from a 17 year old. Everyone who posted here please remember at least one thing, just do better. Y’all are the problem. It’s not a right or left thing. It’s not a man or woman thing. It’s a lack of respect. A lack of empathy. A lack of unity. Just do better.
10 Reply8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think you're clearly anti-Semitic. Despite warnings not to approach with her PR stunt, she insisted on doing so and was detained, which actually was also for her own safety. The Israelis are going to have her and her fellow anti-Semites watch a film about the 10/7 attacks so the finally learn what Hamas is about.
30 Reply5.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. You put exactly zero effort into finding out the truth of this story, didn't you?
Not only is the claim fake, but the Swedish government she made her fake plea towards pretty much said she can pound sand. Her entire trek was also nothing more than a publicity stunt, as it turns out a motorized sailboat is quite incapable of breaching a blockade, and they barely had enough supplies for themselves on a one-way trip let alone to distribute to anyone on arrival.
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1 yAccording my feeling, Greta Thunberg knows very well what she was going to be involved with when accepting to be part of this humanitarian action. She's well known and popular worldwide, which gives more voice to the attempt to help the people from the Gaza strip. Odds are thus high the Israelian authorities will treat with more care the passangers of the aid boat, than they otherwise would probably have done.
10 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The Israeli regime has been acting illegally for decades now and the very notion of them having authority to "Blockade" other people's access to the world and trade is abhorrent and a self imposed supremacist ideology. It's not surprising they are blatantly targeting hospitals schools and religious sites for attack because they have no intent on following rules of armed conflict in their supremacy.
13 Reply2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Ms Thunberg was not 'kidnapped' by Israel, she was arrested by IDF trying to enter Israeli waters and has since been shown the videos of HAMAS's actions of Oct 7th 2023, when along with killing 1,200 people. More than 800 were Israeli civilians. The others were members of Israel's security forces, first responders and foreign workers. They also seized some 251 Israeli and foreign national hostages
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How many tens of thousands has Israel killed since? How many thousands of Palestinians have been and are still being detained even before Oct 7? Why did Israeli citizens throw parades for a soldier who was removed from his post for raping a Palestinian detainee?
Anonymous(25-29)1 yShe literally sailed into waters controlled by absolute barbarians with total disregard for human life
What exactly did she think would happen?
They’ll say she’s being deported and she probably will publicly change sides too
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Anonymous(36-45)1 yNo idea if that’s true or not. Be it true or not, Israel has proven to be the evil of this world beyond anything else. They are the devil and anyone who thinks or agrees with them are on the same satanist boat.
nit every Jew agrees with what Israel is doing but anyone who agrees and supports Israel, regardless of if they are Jews or not, ARE a piece of shit 💩 and the reason why Israel should cease to exist. Yuck 🤢
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1 yIt's a genocidal sociopathic narcissistic sadistic violent arrogant murderous dishonest theocratic apartheid state led by war criminals.
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"a genocidal sociopathic narcissistic sadistic violent arrogant murderous dishonest theocratic apartheid state led by war criminals" and what exactly do you call 13 centuries of Muslim oppression of Jews which has continued into the modern era. Is it not apartheid when conversion to Judaism is illegal, when Jewish men can't marry Muslim women (though if Muslim men want to lust after Jewish women that is ok), when Hamas continuously refuses to recognize Israel and has for a long time stated it wants to exterminate Jews and has been launching rocket after rocket against them? There are many good Muslims in the world, but as a body they have only ever granted equality to others when forced at gunpoint.
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@Jackblue: @DrPepper12 claims to be a Jew, so he should know all that. Instead, he has decided to be collaborator with those who seek to kill all Jews as well as a propagandist.
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1 yIt won't be very long before they start BEGGING Sweden to take her back and they'll probably even PAY Sweden!!
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@Shiprex: The "Palestinians" are mostly Egyptians and Jordanians, and it's not "their land" to get back. You could, however, advocate for Arab countries to give back the land that they took from Mizrahi Jewish citizens of their countries without compensation (land that exceeded today's West Bank and Gaza, by the way). Mizrahi (Middle Eastern Jews) are a majority of the Jewish population of Israel. Perhaps you should also advocate for "Palestinians" to be re-settled among their fellow Arabs in the property those Arabs stole from Jews. That would solve the conflict, wouldn't it?
Jews are not "immigrants" in their homeland.
12.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Nothing new. They are a nation of colonisers, kidnappers and murderers after all.
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1 y"Don't stir the 💩, if you're Not Prepared to smell it"...🤷♂️
10 Reply8.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. That is a really weird way of saying that they saved her from floating right into a war zone completely unprepared.
40 Reply11.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Those people are incredivbly sadistic. Greta will be lucky if they do not torture and kill her slowly.
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Anonymous(25-29)1 yThey'll send her back, all with something other that liberal mush in her brain
With Hamas and Palestine
She'd be sold then graped and beheaded not necessarily in that order10 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Excellent, too bad they can't put her in prison.
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1 yThe thugs who kidnapped Ms. Thunberg are capable of anything.
20 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Kidnappers don't usually put their hostages on a plane and tell them to fuck off.
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1 yKidnapped is overstated, but the ship did have a point
10 Reply 1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I can not take your word for it, give me a link, show me proof….
10 ReplyI had not heard she was kidnapped, only detained
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1 yLol no she was detained because she chose to go into a war zone. She was not kidnapped. She was stupid.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yMy condolences to israel for having to deal with that annoying little bitch twat
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Anonymously posted. guess she isn't the only little bitch twat since you are around as well
Opinion Owner1 y@Hammywillsalot ok peewee herman i know what you are but what am i
Now go play with yourself in a theater
728 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Israel should be nuked
30 Reply27.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I would not pay ten cents to get her back.
30 Reply2.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They were warned. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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1 yIsrael should be nuked. The Holocaust needs to happen. Better this time.
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Israel is a terrorist state filled by Christian hating devil worshipers. The whole world is noticing amd turning far right. As they have done 109 times before. You are on the wrong side of History amd the lord.
Hahaha, I'm glad.
10 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. This and other fairy tales...
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1 yFalse. Quit getting your news from Snapchat.
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1 yIt's the funniest joke of the week.
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1 yI think coward Israel fear of a little girl 😂😂
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Anonymous(25-29)1 yThe story is as fake as Greta.
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1 yKeep her!
00 Reply 4.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Don’t care
10 Reply817 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Fuck her
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