“No new wars” was the slogan, I believe?

[WhiteSteve]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-war-nuclear-talks-geneva-news-06-21-2025-a7b0cdaba28b5817467ccf712d214579

A live look at MAGA right now….

It’s ok, Trump said so!🤪

Let me guess…..”this is different”🤦‍♂️🙄

Next Islamic terrorist attack on America, or any strike back from any Islamic country, y’all can thank your daddy for that. I’m sure Iran and the entire Muslim world will take this lying down.

Don't get me wrong, I’m no fan of Khameini…. but America really needs to get out of the business of forced regime changes.

Also, either Trump is lying or our Director Of National Intelligence is yet another completely incompetent administrative pick by Trump. She said her intelligence says Iran didn’t have a nuke and wasn’t working towards one, not very long ago. Trump says he doesn’t care what she says, and yes they do.

So Trump is either a liar and a war criminal, or Tulsi is a completely inept buffoon who never should’ve been appointed but was pushed through by Trump and his MAGA sycophants. It can’t be both, logically speaking. Should Tulsi be fired and chalked up as another huge mistake in Trump’s judgement? Or is Trump guilty of bombing another country under false pretenses?

https://www.tiktok.com/@briantylercohen/video/7517327312174517517
Whoops!!!

Either way…. this seems like a “new war” to me, and one we have no real need to involve ourselves in. Trump further cementing himself as an all-time villain in world history books.

[MisterWack]

MAGA will always move the goal post or brush away any criticism of the movement / their leader.

I was a Trump supporter once and that is what I would do the first go around then I never got fooled again. People see this guy as an extension of themselves and they see any criticism of the ring leader is a critique on them, since they can’t be fools or morons their leader can’t be a fool or moron.

Trump has one person on his mind, Trump and so does his followers.

The thing is, when I was outspoken during 2024 election Trump Voters were like:

”So you are against peace?” , “So you are against Christian values?” , “So you are against lower grocery prices?” , “So you are against America First?”

Now we are at a point we know Trump for who he is and now they are pretending Trump’s whole campaign in 2024 wasn’t to do anything.

They won’t hold their orange Cheeto accountable isn’t on us since we didn’t vote for him, this is your moron and his mess up. How about you hold accountability and figure out if he is the conman The Left has warned you about time n time again.

[Joshydavid25]

"She said her intelligence says Iran didn’t have a nuke and wasn’t working towards one, not very long ago."

Yeah, I like Tulsi and all, but she was off the mark on this one.. She gave Iran a new life line.. This is after the "International Atomic Energy Agency" had said that Iran had 60% enriched Uranium and was close to being able to build 9 nuclear missiles and that it was concerning.. It's no secret that Iran hates the West especially America and wants Israel gone.. Because they go against their regime.. This isn't a new war if the problem was taken care of swiftly.. It was just a strike so far.. And Iran started it when it continously sneaks in strikes..

[WhiteSteve]

Ok, that’s a fair answer, you think Tulsi is wrong. I’d maybe question why we’d believe Trump, who is, if nothing else, a pathological liar, vs Tulsi, who’s an opportunist and stuck a wet finger in the air to see which way the breeze was blowing, and she flipped her whole script to advance her own political career. And probably fatally, because I think either she or Hegseth will be the first one’s booted, unless you count Elon, lmao.

My biggest issue that Israel isn’t really a good actor in the world. I’m cool helping Ukraine because Russia is a known bad actor. Israel under Netanyahu is a bad actor. To be fair, Khameini and Iran are bad actors as well. And the ugly truth is that Trump and America are now perceived as bad actors, we’re no longer the heroes in the story. And that’s sad.

But given that everyone involved sucks, it’s just two bad actors against another bad actor. I love Jews, I have Jews in my family who I’m blood related to and are pretty much the daughters I’ll never have, I read at both of their bat mitzvahs, it’s not like I’m anti-Semitic, quite the opposite. But that doesn’t mean Israel is good and Iran is bad. It’s just a weird alliance with Israel, I don’t understand it, unless it’s my nefarious suspicions of Islamophobia or pursuit of oil by way of conquering Arab nations.

It’s not a declared war yet, and I don’t know if it will be. I’m just saying I count military strikes as “war”, it doesn’t have to be boots on the ground for an extended period. It’s about morals and ethics as much as it’s about spending and risk of life.

[WhiteSteve]

I guess I’m just saying Iran isn’t any more ripe for regime change than Israel is, and I don’t know why we’re necessarily siding with any of them. Plus these places don’t pose any significant threat to America in my estimation. Terrorist attacks, maybe. And that’s all the more reason to not buy a ticket to a bear-poking petting zoo. You fuck with the entire Islamic world when you do this, not just Iran. And have we ever stopped to think about why these countries halfway across the world that we share nothing with culturally and compete for nothing with resource-wise (plenty of oil to go around here and there), and they have no direct line of threat to us in any meaningful way, have beef with America? They didn’t just roll out of bed and just pick us as an enemy, we’ve been unnecessarily fucking with these guys for like 80 years.

So, I mean, here we are, but like I said, somebody fucked up BIG, going by the story we’re being given, so a head should roll for that to show that this administration is serious about holding themselves accountable in front of the America people

[Joshydavid25]

"My biggest issue that Israel isn’t really a good actor in the world."

See I can't agree with you there either and Netanyahu while not perfect has done everything in their power to cause as little damage to civilians as possible.. Iran has been financing terrorists groups like Hamas and Hezbolah, and was indirectly involved in the Oct 7th attack on Israel.. So yes, I believe that it's basically Israel good and Iran bad.. Israel is the only country in the Middle East with any sort of stability to it's citizens.. Almost every country in the Middle East is under some sort of Islamic dictatorship chipping off each other and anybody who isn't a Muslim.. Hell look up who the average Iranian citizen is rooting for, and it surely isn't their government..

As for Tulsi, she isn't exactly supposed to be International intelligence.. She's I guess supposed to make sure all the intelligence is rightly gathered.. She might be an opportunist.. Who knows.. Whatever her team did, I feel like they dropped the ball.. Maybe they didn't want Trump to drop the strike on Iran.. MAGA has beens strongly against it even though Trump has said multiple times that he wouldn't allow Iran to have nuclear weapons..

[Joshydavid25]

This strike has seems to have been years in the making as it seemed to be directly tailor to destroy that Nuclear compound, which is why I guess Israel might have needed a little help with that one..

[WhiteSteve]

I don’t know, man…. Israel is actively committing genocide in our faces. The solution to that whole ordeal should never be “Israel wins, any Arabs can get fucked.” It’s important to remember that Israel is the original sinner that shouldn’t even be in the equation. I don’t say it as an anti-Zionist rant, but just the fact of the matter is that, habitual historical line-steppers, The United Kingdom, just decided the European Jews post WW2 should have their own country, and they said “here, take this piece of Europe, we’ll gladly shut down shop and vacate for you, and give deference to you in any conflict, and…”— IIIIIIII’MMMMMM JUST KIDDING, they told some brown people of a different God who they probably viewed closer to animals than humans to move the fuck over and shut the fuck up, Israel lives here now. And America has been siding with them ever since. And we wonder why 9/11 happened and all the other bullshit, and act like we’re incredulous to be attacked and viewed as somebody’s villain, like we’re some force of unwavering good in the world. I just don’t buy one iota of that American Exceptionalism bullshit.

Not for nothing, Netanyahu is officially a wanted war criminal for all the stuff we’ve been backing him on, more reluctantly so under Biden, and now full-throttle since Trump came back. And all of it is morally indecent.

My problem with your take is that I feel like you’re caught up in an American-inspired stereotype of “Judeo-Christian society good, Islamic society bad.” Our way is our way because it’s traditional and comfortable to us, but that doesn’t make it objectively correct. Same for Islam. The point is we have to leave room for all of it, because none of it is objectively right or wrong, and maybe just mind the fuck out when two bullies get in a fight halfway across the world, in a place that we should have absolutely zero interest in if they weren’t sitting on a ton of oil.

[Joshydavid25]

"Israel is actively committing genocide in our faces."

I always thought that that take was disingenuous... If Israel wanted to commit genocide to the Palestinians, they could've done it no problem.. They have the fire power to wipe them off the map.. They also wouldn't be dropping warnings and leaflets to them that they're going to blow up a building.. Or helping innocent Palestinians who got caught up in the rubble.. Most of the Palestinians killed were soldiers and civilians used as shields by Hamas.. Palestinians get so much aid, the most aid out of any group in the world and yet somehow they were still "suffering".. There's are 2 million Arabs living in Israel and they seem to be living decent lives, and would hate to go anywhere else.. As for the the history of Israel.. There are more Arab Jews than Europeans Jews.. They even went and got the Ethiopian jews by plane to bring them to Israel.. The Israelis actually drove the British out of the region, gave the Arabs the good land of Gaza, and basically started over and built their way up.. Also the Arabs were there from the Ottoman take over, so I guess if you wanna mention stolen land.. 😅..

Well, considering Netanyahu is surrounded by dictators and Tyrants, I don't know about that one..

I mean, look at the Middle East and Western society and tell me that Islam is anything good.. They hate Israel and America because it goes against what they believe.. In Iran for example they chant "Death to Israel, Death to America".. Israel actually has Arab Muslim doctors and Lawyers and Arabs in other high positions.. It's the only country in the Middle East with an actual "Democracy".. Islam is not a religion to be upheld to any sort of good values.. Sure not all Muslims are that extreme, but when there's no country where Islam rules and the people are free and thriving, you have to put two in two together..

[Anonymous]

"I'm voting for trump bc he won't start or get involved in any wars"

Lmmfao I can't tell you how many times I heard the Maga cult say that during the election.

Of course they will defend THIS war somehow. Literally less than 6 months ago they were all crying and whining that Biden was involved with too many wars. Now this? Jfc Maga what is wrong with you people? How can you support Trump STILL? HOW? WAKE TF UP ALREADY. He lied to y'all. Over and over and over and over and over again and you people just keep eating it and making excuses for him. You are like battered wives who can't leave your abuser. Unlike those women though Maga looks weak and pathetic.

What scares me is every week there is a new low, a head scratching WTF. Two weeks ago was Elon Musk melt down. Last week mass protests/assassination of law maker in MN/troops on the streets. This week bombing Iran. What will next week bring? It's like we're living in a nightmare dystopia

[WhiteSteve]

“This👆” af, as the young whippersnappers might say😝

Insta-MHO right here, spot on👏👏👏

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Aww that's not fair. They can both be idiots and inept at the same time, and in fact, are so.

Trump is so thin skinned. He thinks he's this strong leader, and sadly so does his followers, but the reality is he can be led into doing almost anything if either the money is right or if he doesn't get his way and pouts.

It's pathetic.

[crmoore]

It's true because Ez-Bri-X_v2 said it, everyone. No substantiation needed.

[WhiteSteve]

You’re right, that was narrow-minded of me😂

Who has ever been more “for sale” in The White House? No one in my lifetime, that’s for sure. Or if they were, they at least made a faux-respectful attempt to hide it from us🤦‍♂️

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Aww, someone's little feelings got hurt, it looks like.

Lol, but you are right, Steve. He not only accepts bribes from other countries and fleeces ours, but he then sells products like his new phone or tennis shoes or bibles or a myriad of other things just to exploit his position. His cult followers just love to throw what little money they have to him to just own a small piece of his shit.

[crmoore]

When I comment on you, it's because my feelings got hurt. But when you comment on Trump, it's because you're astute and insightful, right?

I'd also note that you've asserted in absence of substantiation yet again, lol.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

The thing is, I don't owe you that.

[crmoore]

Aversion. Is anybody surprised, lol?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Triggered again. Anyone surprised?

[crmoore]

You really couldn't think of anything besides "you mad bro?" Is it the early 2000s again?

Everyone in disagreement with you is allegedly seething and, 'plot-twist,' Ez-Bri-Z_v2 is always right. Maybe we didn't need a sequel. Maybe we should have just left it at Ez-Bri-Z_v1, lmao.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Hey, now you understand! I'm always right. So please stop commenting because I'm not giving in to what you want.

[exitseven]

@WhiteSteve Biden put an "Open For Business" sign on the white house lawn. Trump put up pictures of arrested illegal aliens

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Bruh, he accepted a 400 million dollar bribe to his library and to use as the new air force one.

He sells merchandise like crazy. He charges the government around a million dollars each time he goes golfing and forcing secret service and staffers to stay at his properties, which surprise (!), goes to his pockets. by the way he's golfed just under 25% of his days in office (37 days of golfing) unless he is doing it again this weekend which then, add days.

[exitseven]

who gave 400 millon dollar bribe for the library, ABC only "donated 20 million. Trump goes golfing in his spare time. Biden was president in his spare time. I think Trump passed on that plane. It would cost too much to retro fit it.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Qatar gave him a luxury jet worth 400 million, which he wants to use as Air Force one as well as go to his presidential library upon him leaving office so thar he can use it anytime. And no, he has not passed on that plane.

As for the golfing, do you have enough of your pto to go golfing over a month of less than half a year of working? Does anyone but him and I see you didn't address the cost to the taxpayers either that go to his pocket.

I'm not a Biden lover myself, but for comparison, Biden took 117 known days of vacation in 4 years. At this rate, Trump is going to double that number.

[crmoore]

The degree that you've fallen short, if you can be considered to have contributed anything notable at all, has exceeded any amusement I expected to have. But if you can convince yourself that this is a win, be my guest. Take what you can get, right?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Oh, you again. I was hoping my friend E7 would have been the one to respond. Thanks for the disappointment.

[crmoore]

I am so genuinely disappointed in myself for not appeasing your delicate emotions.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

You should be disappointed in yourself. Lord knows I'm disappointed by you.

Now, back to worshipping your cult leader with you. I'm just here to respond to E7 or Steve at this point.

[crmoore]

What ever shall I do without your approval.

And I don't know if you're projecting but some of us don't blindly agree with whatever our "leader" does. You can comb through my comments if you want but I've left countless criticisms of Trump on this site. I wonder to what degree you can say the same for your party.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Don't have a party. I just know a cult when I see one.

Good on you though to post criticisms about him, but any support you do give him is condoning his cult and selfish behavior, which is just as bad.

[crmoore]

I appreciate and commend you for being able to put credit where credit is due, but condoning him is not conding the cult. That's like saying I support Hitler because we both drink water. Or I support Stalin because we both support the idea of government. Commonalities present do not make things equivalent. And if it did, that'd mean every Democrat has condoned the murder of Trump or any other republican that has been murdered for political reasons in the last decade. And with all due respect that's just not a reasonable statement.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Sorry, but those are poor examples and alleviate the gravity in which you find yourself if you find yourself siding with him on most or even some of his matters. It would be more akin to saying, "Hitler had some good ideas" despite the atrocities he carried out.

[caitycat21]

I’m just tired. Can our tax payer dollars just quit being wasted funding Netenyahoos bullshit. They attacked Iran first, why do we have to preform clean up duty?

[WhiteSteve]

Yeah, I mean, in fairness, this whole thing has been going on off and on for longer than I’ve been alive, let alone as long as you’ve been. So it’s a very complicated situation that I understand is difficult for anyone to navigate. But just being like “Israel is the good guy, we’ll help them”, I don’t agree with that perception that some have.

But I agree with you, we shouldn’t be involving ourselves in this one

[exitseven]

This is not a new war. Iran has funded many strikes on US facilities for years. President Trump has said in his first term that Iran will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. I do not think that Trump has much faith in the intelligence community.

I think it is better to have a president that will take action when a problem shows itself instead of going on TV and just saying "Don't" like a senile old fool.

The mission has been competed and no American lives were lost.

[Pohjolan]

Completed? You didn't break anything they can't rebuild plus they are about to close the strait of Hormuz.
Nor was it a shooting war before.

[exitseven]

@Pohjolan They can rebuild if they want. We have more bunker busters.

[Pohjolan]

@exitseven
And what if they conduct a successful nuclear test during a ongoing conflict?

[Syntosi]

Using some napkin math I came to this one mission of (maybe?) destroying one of Irans nuclear facilities costing about 35 million dollars. First of all, nice expenditure of money, secondly, I am sure that Iran has no problems trading tens of thousands in exchange for tens of millions. If I was them, and I wanted to win against USA in cost-benefit then I would welcome these strikes with open arms.

"The Daily Worker is calling this a defeat. A few more defeats like this and we may yet win this war!"

[exitseven]

@Pohjolan This is why Trump is bombing all their nuclear facilities. Try to keep up/

[Pohjolan]

@exitseven
One facility so far. Bombing Iran to prevent them from getting a nuke only to find out that they succeeded anyway would be worse than not bombing them in the first place.
And now it seems that they might begin another tanker war. This is far from mission complete.

[exitseven]

@Pohjolan The Houthis just tried this. They were dispatched pretty quick.

[Syntosi]

The Houthis are still going strong, you are just ignoring them.

[Pohjolan]

@exitseven
That conflict begun in November 2023 and they still haven't released all hostages mind you.
This time you are dealing with the main force. Not proxies. (Unless if China turns Iran into its proxy.) Like their submarine fleet has so far remained intact.

[Anonymous]

Not surprised Trump went back on his word, he did during his first term and is in the back pocket of Israel. This is on Trump not Tulsi, and needs to be impeached for attacking Iran without a declaration of war. To be fair, same thing would happened under Harris as she's also a puppet of Israel which was evident during the election and her loss of support amount pro Palestine voters.

[WhiteSteve]

Yeah, tough to say how far Harris would’ve gone. Our alliance with Israel is questionable for sure. But there feels like there’s something “extra” between Trump and Bibi, maybe we’ll get the truth one day, maybe we won’t. But it feels fishy.

[Opinion Owner]

Not fishy to me, I suspected Trump would do something, suspected Harris would have done the same thing. Also not surprised some Democratic lawmakers support Trump's bombing of Iran, seeing as they cheered Trump during his first term for being presidential when he bombed Syria.

[Twalli]

We know Trump is a liar. We've known that since before 2016. He clearly doesn't think rules and laws apply to him, because he got off with no repercussions after being convicted with 34 felony counts. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't have gotten away with violating a gag order without severe punishments. He also did that 12 times. So, we have a liar who believes himself above any law or regulation.
Then we have Tulsi who can best be described as a patriot to any nation not named "The United States of America". So, while she's very good at her job, it's not to the benefit of the country in which she works. I wouldn't say she's bad at her job, just that it isn't what her title says.

[Lliam]

Bomb Israel, not Iran. The world will cheer.

[exitseven]

if the whole word jumped off a cliff, would you follow

[WhiteSteve]

Lmao, hot take

[OneViewpoint]

Ukraine. Fail.

Gaza. Fail.

Iran. Fail.

Am I the only one seeing a pattern here?

[ProbablyClueless]

Yeah… I’m certainly not a fan of this war either.


Although to be fair, preventing this exact situation is why Trump backed out of the Obama-Iran deal in the first place. And then Biden and the Dems just had to fuck that up. How could Dems ever be the saviors of the world if they can’t provide bottomless funding to dictatorships to develop nuclear weapons?


If y’all hadn’t done that, the Iranians would have backed off and no bombs would have dropped.

[WhiteSteve]

My issue with that take is that our most current intelligence tells us that that wasn’t the case, and Trump was just like “nah, yes it is”, because of a “feeling” or some backroom deal with Israel.

And if the Ukraine/Russia conflict is “not my monkeys, not my circus”, then why is Israel? Israel’s government SUCKS, these aren’t people we should be allied with if we want to claim we’re wearing the white hat. If Israel and Iran get into it, I’m just eating popcorn while two bullies slug it out, but there’s no “good guy” in the overall sotuation

[WhiteSteve]

*situation

[ProbablyClueless]

I’m not sure how current reliable intelligence could possibly indicate that wasn’t the case. It’s quite literally exactly what the entire world watched happen, and then Iran expressly admitted to many times.

[DrPepper12]

They'll explain it all away, assume the position and say "TY Sir!! May I have another?"

Fascist fluffers. ALL OF MAGA!

[WhiteSteve]

There’s a FlufferNutter joke in there that my Sunday morning brain just can’t quite come up with😂

[Dongie]

Do explain our fascist ways, teach! All I see is those on the left either having their way or burning everything in their way. That's kind of forcing their way upon others wouldn't you say? Or can you admit it?

[DCVsMarvel2]

Republicans will brand this as "it needed to be done"

No, it really didn't, trump. You tore up the agreement, that kept iran from building bombs. Why you did, i dk

[WhiteSteve]

They’re already rolling in….🙄😂

[andreasderjuengere]

That tiktok... the man is not a native English speaker. He confused ''piece'' with ''pieces''

[WhiteSteve]

Lmao, for real😂

[Anonymous]

If I said I'm anti-violence and knock-out someone trying to stab my friend would you call me a hypocrite?

[WhiteSteve]

For sure not. But I’d certainly wonder why you kept company with a “friend” like Israel. They aren’t really good guys, governmentally

[genericname85]

i'm always amused by any one who doesn't like a politician being outraged by that politican first saying one thing before being elected and then doing the exact opposite after the election. every single one does it. it has been going on for milenia. how is it that people are still picking sides and are not realized that they're being fucked by both sides?

[KittygosMeoWW]

It’s ok he added god bless Israel and god bless America to his speech.

[WhiteSteve]

Oh, thank goodness. That changes everything😝

[KittygosMeoWW]

If it needed to be done I get it, Iran has been acting wild and threatening the us since Biden was in office and trump did say he wouldn’t put up with it hell even Obama tweeted it wasn’t good for them to have nuclear weapons. I just don’t like the fact he said go without involving congress, how many more constitutional laws does he have to break before he’s impeached.

[KittygosMeoWW]

Didn’t someone from his team let in dangerous immigrants that were part of the cartel.

[KittygosMeoWW]

Also I was supposed to go on a furxken hike with a 200.00 backpack I bought to carry my kid in and it was cancelled because people think we’re going to war and they’re going to strike us directly……😒 could he not have waited for Monday

[WhiteSteve]

100%, I can’t argue much with that.

This wasn’t an accident that it happened after the stock market closed on Friday for the weekend, lmao. But yeah, out here fucking people’s weekends up😒😒😒

[Dongie]

Why don't you shut the fuck up Stevie boy!! Consider all that your stupid, idiotic side does to hurt the world! Pelosi said in September of 2019," I don't care about the collateral damage. Whatever it takes to get him out of office." Then she was in Wuhan China in November of 2019. What do you think happened next? You stupid liberal democrats are what's wrong with the planet. I HATE you mfkers!

[Kingofkings1992]

[WhiteSteve]

I actually enjoyed this😂

[SarahP080106]

It is not a war. Only Congress can declare war

[WhiteSteve]

Technically speaking, yes. And I hope Trump would adhere to that, but for the first time in my life, I’m not sure that he would. Don’t forget the Supreme Court he helped install gave him full immunity legally, so he can just do whatever the fuck he wants, he’s not bound to the rules any previous President has been.

When I say “war”, and I think when we colloquially are told “war”, it’s fair to assume that that includes all violent military operations, not just just full-blown officially-declared wars. We aren’t officially part of the war in Ukraine, but MAGA wouldn’t shut up about how we shouldn’t be. But if we’re bombing brown people of a different God, then I guess that’s cool🤦‍♂️

[SarahP080106]

Are you overlooking all the military action Obama took while in office that didn't have Congressional approval?

[Dongie]

They overlook a lot that obammy did! That's the programming.

[WhiteSteve]

It’s not even as much about the actions as much as who we’re supporting in this conflict. Israel isn’t really much better than Iran. They’ve been committing genocide in Gaza and Netanyahu is an internationally wanted war criminal. That’s not really the kind of allies I want America buddied up with.

Obama intervened in the Libyan civil war for the explicit protection of civilians. Everything else were strikes on smaller terrorist groups, not officially recognized countries who belong to the UN. Very, very different. Obama also didn’t say, “well, my spies say everything is fine but I’m gonna hit ‘em anyway.”

Attempting to compare any action of Trump’s to any President’s before him is usually apples-to-oranges. Trump behaves worse than anyone we’ve ever had in terms of presidential decorum, so he’s not even making normal moves that you might politically agree or disagree with, it’s always some wildly ill-advised and uncalled for shit, HABITUALLY

[Anonymous]

Iran has been fucking around for too long. You can't give them an inch. Last year they attacked a us base and they are funding and controlling terror campaigns in Syria, Iraq, yemen, Saudi Arabia, Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere. That can't go on.

[WhiteSteve]

Maybe. But I feel there’s this air of “we side with Jews over Muslims, broadly”, and so much right wing fascination with Israel is due to holy roller-ism, and fundamentalist Christians thinking helping Israel will usher in The End Times and the return of Jesus, and then all the Christians ascend to Heaven. Like that’s a legit thing that some people believe is part of this, and I personally find that pretty alarming

[Opinion Owner]

Iran is litteraly attacking everyone in the middle east, America included. Last year when they attacked that American airbase we should have done what we are now. Iran has been allowed to get away with too much and they've gotten bolder each time.

[Dongie]

We do side against Muslims with anybody!

[Opinion Owner]

@Dongie we are also siding with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan against Iran.

[Dongie]

Well, good! That's because they like Trump.

[Opinion Owner]

@Dongie maybe but also because Iran has been sponsoring terrorism in their countries, invading their airspace and interrupting their trade. Saudi Arabia has been fighting a proxy war with Iran for a decade now.

[Dongie]

It's the sunnis and the other one.

[Opinion Owner]

@Dongie sunnis and the shits

[Dongie]

🤣 yeah, shiites!

[Opinion Owner]

@Dongie they really are

[Dongie]

Yes ma'am!

[Dargil]

It probably ended today. Israel will do the mop-up.

[WhiteSteve]

I understand Iran is sometimes troublesome, but should America be pal’ing around with wanted war criminals like Netanyahu and helping them with their dirty work? It’s not just like Israel is the good guy and Iran is the bad guy. I’d say all three actors in this play are some of the worst you’d have to see on the world stage.

I guess I just don’t understand after all the MAGA talk of how Biden or Harris were getting us involved in too many military conflicts, and now within six months, we’ve bombed somebody. And according to Trump’s own appointed DNI, Iran did NOT have either a nuke nor were they in the process. Tulsi was excluded from the meetings about this, I was hearing that right before this all happened. That’s kinda weird and needs explanation. I don’t think I’d believe him, but in light of what he at least claims to be true, then Tulsi Gabbard should be fired by the beginning of the day tomorrow morning for complete ineptitude.

[Anonymous]

They were obviously unable to prevent the new war.

[Bricealan]

@WhiteSteve Geeze, Steve, where do you get those wonderful GIF toys?

[UrbanLeather]

MAGA is just fine with wars if their daddy Trump starts them

[Ariesman81]

It's not new... it's quite literally the oldest war known to mankind

[Pohjolan]

No new wars as in plural. So far he has gotten involved in just one new war.

[dustybiker2]

Oops.

[WhiteSteve]

Who could’ve predicted this?🙃

[dustybiker2]

Thankfully at least half of America. If only everyone had voted.

[Miristheiss]

We are not at war.

[msc545]

Trump is a war criminal AND a liar.

[Dongie]

Bring proof or shut your lying mouth!

[Anonymous]

This isn't new.

[WhiteSteve]

The conflict isn’t, but the escalation in participation is. And it’s not really any different than Ukraine, and in fact Ukraine is at least an identifiable victim in the situation and the de facto “good guy” in that conflict. I’m cool helping out good guys. Israel under Netanyahu are NOT good guys. Neither is Ayatollah Khameini, but the point is there’s no discernible “good guy” in the Middle East, so maybe this isn’t the kind of fight we should be taking up or the type of friends we should be allied with. Character matters.

[Opinion Owner]

We had 160,000 pairs of boots on the ground and Iraq and 100,000 pairs of boots on the ground in afghanistan. How many American boots are in Iran right now?

[Dargil]

This coming out better than I hoped. C'mon Iran. Do something Trump doesn't like. Please!

[Opinion Owner]

They are still bombing Israel.