Why are they doing this?

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If you are using undocumented immigrants' tax records to find and kidnap them, then it was never about them paying taxes. If you are showing up at their place of employment, then it was never about them not working. If you are showing up at courthouses, then it was never about getting them to "do it the right way". If you are kidnapping women and children, then it was never about criminals. If you're refusing to give them due process, then it was never about the Constitution. If you are building concentration camps in Florida to keep them here in cages, then it was never about the border. If you're spending billions to do this, then it was never about the economy. And if you're doing all this in the name of a 34 time convicted felon, then it was never about following the law.

MisterWack · Accepted Answer

I’ll respond to each listed. If you are using undocumented immigrants' tax records to find and kidnap them, then it was never about them paying taxes.  Well yeah, the idea was sold as “they are freeloaders of the govt utilizing their illegal crossing and undocumented status here which are making hard working Americans like “US” look like fools, enough is enough. The US V. THEM mentality worked in the 2024 election to achieve dehumanizing measures. They are in power with majority in Congress, Senate, and The White House. Secretly the politicians / media figureheads wanted this, though kept claiming “we just want to punish the worst of the worst guys, don’t you hate criminals?”  
 When in reality it is everyday hard working Americans like us, only difference is US V. THEM to justify blatant abuses of power. If you are showing up at their place of employment, then it was never about them not working.  Same with the freeloader US V. THEM mentality, though I will say a lot of people will push the, “they are stealing our jobs” though will happily ignore driverless trucks in Texas stealing Conservative truckers of their jobs or their Republican Legislator not punishing company in charge of maintaining utility pole which caused one of the worst fires taking a toll of Conservative farmers’ livelihoods in a matter of hours. OR about ‘OBBA’ which prevents AI regulations on State level for 10 years allowing AI to steal more jobs from hard working Americans, the same they promised to be fighting for which is bullsh*t.  If you are showing up at courthouses, then it was never about getting them to "do it the right way".  I’ll say that is objective, though will say it is a violation against Due Process which I’ve talked about before proven in 1) US Constitution and 2) SCOTUS Majority Opinions. If you are kidnapping women and children, then it was never about criminals. Definitely hurts their case to be made. Especially the cancer kids being deported who were here for better treatment, also there is a rule once you are deported you can’t come back legally so a lot of people (children) will die thanks to this.  If you're refusing to give them due process, then it was never about the Constitution. If you are building concentration camps in Florida to keep them here in cages, then it was never about the border.  Yeah, if the idea was immigrants are causing resources to be taken up, why make a Prison with an Alligator Marsh since that will cost millions of the taxpayer for guards, equipment, electricity, food, water, clothes, etc. when we could just deport them back to their home place of origin or better yet allow them to legally come here easier with less hurdles.  If you're spending billions to do this, then it was never about the economy. And if you're doing all this in the name of a 34 time convicted felon, then it was never about following the law.  Exactly, exactly, exactly. It was about US V. THEM which is the same racist / discriminatory bias that came with every wave of immigrant to this country. Irish, Italian, Catholic, Jewish, Russian, German, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and more. We once were ‘THEM’ until we became ‘US’, I think a lot of folks forget that. We all came from somewhere, unless we are Native American / Indigenous.

msc545 · Accepted Answer

This is about racism, pure and simple. If it was really about the economy then Republicans would not be doing this because they would relish the thought of all that cheap labor. Apparently they don't care about it very much. They are counting on poor Americans that they can pay almost as cheaply I guess.

Caroline91 · Accepted Answer

@goaded

Logic? Who needs it! We all know babies commit 90% of the violent crime in this country...

Constitution? What constitution? You mean we have a constitution?

Concentration camps in Florida swamps? C'mon we all know the alligators need to eat too!

Spending billions? At least it's not my money, I find all kinds of ways to avoid paying taxes!

Felon? What convicted felon? He's been totally exonerated!

Get ahold of yourself man and don't worry because you're never gonna have to vote again anyway... at least that's what our dear leader said. Take his word for it.

NoDecision · Accepted Answer

I will agree with everything except that last one. If you were convicted of 34 times for various crimes, then we don't want your ass in our country. Your record shows that you don't give a shit about our laws or anyone else's. So go piss up a rope.

jshm2 · Answer

It's all a performance, and theft.

They KNOW migrants commit 80% less crime than citizens. Pay taxes, but cannot claim benefits, etc etc... But they want to steal all their money and assets they've put into the system, by kicking them out.

exitseven · Answer

wrong , wrong, wrong,
It is about enforcing the laws that we currently have. DHS is using everything at their disposal to track down and arrest illegal aliens. They have a worst first policy but eventually all 20 million will be deported.
The so called concentration camp is necessary to hold illegal aliens until they can get due process and then get deported.
Since the federal government spends 450 billion dollars on illegal aliens every year it is partly about the economy as well as crime and the added burden on the infrastructures of our communities. .

AviatorTom · Answer

I can't say it better than @exitseven other than to add. ICE is enforcing the law, something the previous administration did not do.

The last statement is factually incorrect and deserves context. Trump has a one-time conviction of 34 counts of the same crime, and the court decided not to sentence him. So what does that say about the conviction?

andreasderjuengere · Answer

Why:

The U. S. fear competition. It might turn out that in comparison they are low on the score-list. That's not good for building self esteem.

The easiest ways are to deport, to bomb away, to lock up, to boycott and to bully all those who may turn out to be ''the better guys''.

Twinkle twinkle little star. How I want you being far.

BadApple69 · Answer

Think about what you are saying…. Does it have a box on the social security application that says check here if illegal? No. Social security is for citizens ONLY. If an illegal has a SS number, he/she obtained it illegally or they are using a fake number. that makes 2 crimes that individual has committed.
I would venture to say that IF ICE is using SS to track down illegals they are looking for fake numbers that are paying into SS.

Staximus · Answer

I don't know what country you live in, but here in the US it is actually against the law to be an illegal immigrant. That's why they call them illegal, dipshit. Just because the Biden administration didn't enforce federal law doesn't magically make them legal immigrants. Stick to something you actually know about, because you continue to make a fool of yourself when interpret a foreign country's laws as you see fit.

Miristheiss · Answer

Lots of drama in all of that.

Truth.

Letting 20,000,000 3rd world immigrants flood the nation in mass is HORRIBLE for our country.

Grown ups need to make the hard and necessary decision to fix that.

Immigration has to be done in small numbers. The border has to be secure.

This HAS to be fixed.

All of these pity stories make no matter.

DonaldDarko · Answer

Hail Trump! All illegals need deportation. Personally I'd deport anyone who came in under Heart Celler and their descendants. Only the founding population knows how to be American, countries are made of people not soil. A country is a brotherhood of men who built and kept it. Not some "migrant" who's very presence taints it.

mfused411 · Answer

Not that you give a shit, but what advice would you give potential migrants that have been waiting for years to be approved to work in United states, but those jobs are already being filled by people who cut the line and broke the law. Has that ever crossed your mind? What advice would you give them? Under Biden I would encourage them to find a coyote that can get them across the border illegally.
Under Trump I would encourage them to visit USCIS. gov and play by the rules.

msmissydc · Answer

How do Nazis even keep track of all the lies they tell so they dont contradict themselves? OH right they dont, they also dont care if they contradict themselves because their hatred is too strong.

Gwendoline · Answer

As a legal immigrant I think it's important to obey the laws of the country you immigrate to.

RavVid · Answer

I don't know about the US but in mine it is only the upper 10th percentile of income that pays any effective tax.

The other 90% use more gov't services than they pay for in taxes. So it is good for us to get rid of our illegals.

SmokinAces2000 · Answer

Those are the things they like to hide behind but like I’ve been saying forever, all of them fall flat. These people are either just horrible people or racist but most likely both.

Shiprex · Answer

Of course it's about the racist Jesus freaks exerting power because they're wicked pos.

alli-112 · Answer

Literally this lowkey. It's all so hypocritical.

captain_voidwalker · Answer

Just because you pay taxes dosen't mean you aren't a drain on the system

OddBeMe · Answer

Oh yeah it's about racism. Thats why white illegals aren't being deported.

FreyaRed · Answer

They way is the goal.

Sal_Monella · Answer

To catch illegals, is my guess.

dustybiker2 · Answer

Jesus

DrPepper12 · Answer

Accurate

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