Which is worse - all the murders in Gaza, or all the murders of unborn children every year in the US by abortion?

[Anonymous]

Which of these seems worse:

1,038,000 abortions were performed in the United States in 2024. Every one of these resulted in the death of an unborn child.

As of late 2024, the number of deaths in Gaza since the beginning of the conflict on October 7, 2023, has surpassed 70,000, with some estimates suggesting even higher figures.

Gaza is worse

Abortions are worse

[Dargil]

63,459,781 abortions since Rowe. That Democrat genocide as about the same as MAO and more than Stalin and Hitler.

[Dargil]

@Shiprex good for you

[Shiprex]

Not a murder when it's not a self sustaining being.

[RavVid]

Abortions qualify as mass murder far more than Gaza does.

[DCVsMarvel2]

Confirmation bias much?

[RavVid]

@DCVsMarvel2 No not much at all in fact. I use condoms.

I do like sting in the tail humor.

[DCVsMarvel2]

again, confir fucking bias

[OlderAndWiser]

Liberals do not want to be reminded of inconvenient truths!

[Amy10223]

Republicans do not want to be reminded of the fact that their leader is a 34 count convicted felon/rapist/ Putin lover/ dictator wanna-be lunatic.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Amy10223 And liberals tell us how tolerant they are and how Republicans have the party of hate. The only agenda of the Democrat Party is to hang Trump, then set him on fire.

Nice job changing the subject away from the murder of unborn children!

[Amy10223]

1. YOU were the one who mentioned Liberals first, and I, being a Liberal, talked right back at you.
2. You DO have the party of HATE, when you are siding with a racist, misogynistic, man who does not like people of color.
3. Trump did NOTHING while insurrectionists of Jan 6 chanted "Hang Mike Pence!" Your party hated its own Vice President. Your party has kukoos like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jim Jordan, a kn own pedophile, and of course Trump himself, the biggest one who has mentioned he would have sex with this own daughter if she wasn't his daughter. Cringy isn't it?
We have our own agenda--and we stand strongly by it--to keep our democracy from danger with this lunatic who wants to take us back to 1845. If you can't understand why, then you need to take your head out of where the sun doesn't shine.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Amy10223 The topic is abortion - the murder of unborn children - and you are trying to change the topic to your favorite hate target. Pathetic!

[Amy10223]

@Amy10223 And liberals tell us how tolerant they are and how Republicans have the party of hate. The only agenda of the Democrat Party is to hang Trump, then set him on fire.

I didn't change the topic. YOU brought up the topic of Liberals and made it political. It IS a political topic--there is no way for it NOT to be. And I stand my my words; a fetus is NOT a child. A child is not a child until it is born. If you disagree--don't shove your beliefs down anyone else's throat. You're fine fine with guns killing people and rapists getting off Scott free, though.

[Makeushiver]

@OlderAndWiser I'm sure that's the case esp. when compared to the oh so open-minded republican party

[OlderAndWiser]

@Amy10223 I'm sure you are ALWAYS right. No sense in trying to continue this "conversation."

[Asker]

@olderandwiser I find it ironic and rather incongruent that, given who you are and the work you do, you are nonetheless attempting to defend a convicted felon who continues to commit crimes. You mush have really painful cognitive dissonance if not moral injury over this.

[Sunrising]

I will comment on abortions.

In your figures you are not saying, what is the reason for the abortions. There could be very good medical reasons.

A large number of babies are born dead after 9 months, and these could have been prevented by abortion.

Obviously we need to reduce those abortion figures.

By educating children better.

I had no sex education.

Information on the morning after pill, making it easily available.

The prohibition laws were a disaster in the USA, perhaps we are doing the same with pornography?

Let's make sex not a big deal to our children, and educate them on what is needed, male and female relationships, and not encouraging them to change their gender etc.

We are already living in a cruel and unloving world. I think if a baby is unplanned, and unwanted for whatever the reason, it's better to have an abortion, rather than to add to the worlds problems.

[Sunrising]

The USA has a history of doing nothing about genocide, by only entering the World War 2 in December 1941 at Pearl Harbour.
Gaza needs to be stopped too.

[Amy10223]

Thank you, Sunrising. You're very wise.

[Lliam]

Like there is any comparison between chemically aborting a fetus with no nervous system or consciousness and shooting people in the head, blowing off children's arms and legs, burning them alive, or deliberately starving people to death.

What Israel is doing is far worse than anything the Nazis ever did.

[Asker]

You assume that unborn children have no nervous system or consciousness. You are wrong.

[Lliam]

www.acog.org/.../gestational-development-capacity-for-pain

[Asker]

You also assume that the presents or absence of a nervous system or consciousness are necessary components of a child. You are wrong about this as well. I further suggest that you attempt to define consciousness and tell us all what that means.

[Amy10223]

Murder of any kind is a sin, in my book. Unborn children are fetuses, not children. It is also ironic that most people who are pro-guns, don't think about abortion when they use their guns on anyone.

[Asker]

You think that by changing the name of something, it then changes the essence of it? This is a lie that pro-abortionists tell themselves. That doesn't work.

[Amy10223]

What was it that was changed?

[Asker]

Calling an unborn child a "fetus" does not change the fact that it is a child, albeit unborn as yet. Killing it is murder.

[Asker]

In this case, only the name you used, to make murdering it more palatable.

[Amy10223]

No. A fetus is a fetus. It is not a child yet until it is born.

[Asker]

Call it what you will. Murder is a crime and a sin.

[Anonymous]

You can't murder a non-person, and MY God told me that there isn't a soul assigned to a fetus until well after 24 weeks. I don't care what YOUR God says, because my God is the one true God. Therefore, no soul, no spirit, not a person, just a developing embryo. It's worse to birth an unwanted child or one you can't afford than to terminate the pregnancy.

What, you don't believe my God or a representative told me that? Prove me wrong, and I don't believe yours!

Gaza is full of human beings, already born and living. Half of them were children - yes, "were" because now they're dead. The adults are being systematically slaughtered or starved out by one group who thinks THEIR God gave them the right to do so.

Thus my conclusion: If you're too stupid to figure out how to live with each other in the world as adults, bringing in more unwanted, unasked for children is not benefitting anyone except those who would enslave them.

[Shiprex]

Since when is abortion murder?

More revisionist claptrap by loonytunes right wing nuts.

It's weird how pro life crackpots have all this concern for nonsentient foetuses but wash their hands completely as soon as the child is born. That depth of cognitive dissonance should be tapped for energy exploitation

[Asker]

@shiprex, how do you know they are not sentient, and what does it matter if they are not? More support for convenient murder...

[genericname85]

according to most definition an "unborn child" is not a "child" yet, cause the act of birth makes them someones child. or some developmental step according to whatever each society decides on by definition. so that's why you can't compare these things. in gaza, they're killing people. as in "people", the legal status of a "person". an unborn child often doesn't have that yet.

[Caroline91]

There is no comparison. It’s two completely different issues. There is no excuse for genicide. As for abortions, there are many reasons they are performed. I do not agree with abortion as birth control. But there are many medical conditions in which an abortion is a reasonable choice.

[Asker]

Every abortion is a murder.

[kavakava]

Interesting question. Babies just want to be given a chance in this world. The Palestinians had a chance, and they chose ruthless, murderous terrorists to represent their government. What could go wrong? The whole world feels horrible for the innocent Palestinians. But they elected to be human Shields for the terrorists they worship. From the river to the Sea..

[slatyb]

At least half of all pregnancies end inspontaneous abortion, so God is killing tens of millions of fetuses every year.

There's no such thing as an unborn child. A child is the result of a live birth.

[TrimmedTip]

Comparing human suffering is a lose-lose game—both are tragedies with real victims. Focus on valuing life period, and channel that energy into solutions instead of competitions over pain.

[zagor]

91% of abortions in the US are in the first two trimesters.

[Asker]

100% of abortions cause death, no matter when they are performed.

[Twalli]

And how many of those union children would have become the very people you despise?

[Asker]

That doesn't even come close to answering the question. Try again.

[Twalli]

You seem to care far more about fetuses thsn actual living breathing people. I care more about those that are actually drawing breath.

[Asker]

I care about everyone. What gives you the idea I don't?

[Twalli]

Because most probably life's are to the right of center politically. They support the death penalty, and see anyone on unemployment or government assistance as worthless and lazy. If they had their way they'd do away with both. That would result in those people dying. Ergo, disregard for those actually living and breathing. We're already going to see an uptick in poorer people dying with the cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

[Asker]

I really do not understand what you are saying. "lifes" ?

[Twalli]

Sorry, I am mostly on my phone here and it likes to autocorrect things randomly.
I meant pro lifers.

[Asker]

I am very much both a leftist and a pro-lifer.

[onedarkcloud]

There is no which one is worse; they all are horrific, whether it is one murder or a million murders by abortion or a bullet

[blackeagle007]

Dumbass MAGA will say no to that but demand alcohol stays!

[DCVsMarvel2]

Hey, idiot. Confirmation bias much?