Those leaving smarmy remarks re Charlie Kirk being against gun control; are you aware that almost no one is calling to ban the type of gun used?

[zagor]

It was a bolt-action hunting rifle, legal in almost every country.

Other than recognizing the name as being a big Trump supporter, I knew absolutely nothing about Charlie Kirk before he was shot.

[Chazmatazz269]

At any given time in the US, there is a democrat sponsored bill to ban all firearms for private sale, ownership and use. A similar bill passed in Canada very recently and you’re stuffing your head in the sand if you think they’re not pushing for the same thing here, constantly.
100% of democrat “gun control” policy is aimed at punishing law abiding gun owners for the crimes of people that they actively refuse to acknowledge, let alone punish. They are letting known violent criminals run free to victimize law abiding citizens and treating those victims like criminals for defending themselves.
They have done literally nothing to disarm criminals, ever. They even paid criminals to con them with props, starter pistols and 3D printed firearms. The money was almost certainly used to buy illegal firearms that were in turn used to at least intimidate victims, otherwise maim and murder.
They’re liars and hypocrites.

[Hardon-Collider]

The political affiliation is a complete red herring. The only fact that matters is the weapon used: a bolt-action rifle. That's the key. A bolt-action rifle is the symbol of the archer, which represents the individual human 'I' acting on the physical world, the 'Maya'. The attacker wasn't shooting a political enemy; he was performing a symbolic act. He was shooting the target of the physical world and the individual who perceives it. It's an attack on the very nature of the 'I' and its connection to the material world. It's a deeply symbolic, alchemical act, not a political one.

[goaded]

Just to be clear, you're aware the alleged killer is a right-winger who put homophobic comments on his bullets, right?

That said, yes, I was pretty sure it was a simple rifle, available to hunters worldwide. You can check my opinion on Would Charlie Kirk have benefited from gun control? .

You don't think that because of this one case, regulation would be completely useless, do you? That's like saying someone wearing a seat belt dying in a road crash means seat belts are useless.

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Then:

Now:

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But this image is fake:

[zagor]

No, the killer was dating a transgender male-to- female and was not at all a right-winger. You must have the same factchecker as the POTUS.

[goaded]

"If you read this you are gay LMAO" is not something any left winger would write. Bella Ciao is popular with Groypers, as is the video game the arrows come from.

[zagor]

Wrong. "If you read this you are gay LMAO" is a frequent meme among young gamers. It is not in fact an anti-gay statement. Maybe it is if you're 60; not if you're 22.

Bella Ciao is from an anti-fascist Italian song of the Mussolini era.

[goaded]

Bella Ciao is also popular in those same games. Basically, the guy seems to be a gamer with a gun and a personal grudge against Kirk. Not representative of either political side, and the right were trying to paint the whole of the left as being like him before anything at all was known.

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[zagor]

His grudge was because of CK's politics, not his style or personality. Of course that doesn't mean he is in any way representative of the left or any group. It is idiocy when the sides debate over whether some miscreant is group X or group Y.

For years people argued whether Charles Manson was right-wing or left-wing. He was just a wing-nut.

[goaded]

It was about Kirk's hateful comments about the person he loved. Trump on down were painting the entire left as being just like the lone shooter.

[zagor]

Nothing Trump or his self-selected minions come out with surprises me anymore. Unless it was something indicating self-awareness and reflection - that would be shocking.

[goaded]

Nearly as surprising as reaching an agreement in a conversation on here!

Given information that's become public since I wrote my opinion, I was wrong. Trump and his minions were and are still simply lying when they make out the murderer was any kind of typical leftist..

[Kaneki05]

There is a key difference here though, such weapon maybe legal in many countries does not mean it's easy to get and own. That's the real problem in US they just let everyone easily get a gun.

It should be a privileged not a right, and certainly not easy to get by young adults who really haven't proven in society in anyway they're going to be an upstanding citizen not going to use gun for other means.

[zagor]

Someone with no previous record like the shooter would not have trouble getting a hunting rifle.

[Kaneki05]

They would here in England and many countries alike, we get into trouble for even having knifes nvm a gun. You have to go through a whole vetted system, I'm no expert of how it works but I can say there's a reason why basically no one here owns guns despite them technically not being illegal.
It's privileged only held for certain citizens.

[zagor]

I don't know about England but a lot of my relatives in Canada hunt and they don't use crossbows. And I know it is popular in Scandinavia as well.

[DrPepper12]

Who cares? Guns shouldn't be more accessable than books or water!!! Regulate them like cars & drivers!!

[exitseven]

Liberals never think about details. They are more about slogans and rhetoric.

[WonderingManII]

I didn't know him either. Politics don't interest me. I have no input in how they go.

[seeyounexttuesday]

They’re already confused. Don’t give them more facts to break their brains.