Charlie Kirk said that when the discourse stops, the violence begins. Did his death stop the discourse?

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OlderAndWiser · Accepted Answer

We could honor his memory by trying to rise above political rhetoric and engage in real discussions.

AviatorTom · Accepted Answer

Just the opposite. Charlie's death has already increased the discourse.

loveslongnails · Answer

The discourse stopped a long time before CK was born, at least the meaningful discourse.
Charlie ALSO said: " I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I've thought about it. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s."

What that translates to is Charlie truly bought into the "separate but equal" false doctrines of the Jim Crow era. He was without question a white supremacist, as evidenced by all of his comments and his attitude of "well, what's so bad about that... whites ARE superior". While he did not say specifically that ALL Black women did not have the brain power to hold certain positions, he DID say it about 4 specific women; Joy Reid, Sheila Jackson Lee, Ketanji Brown ( a Supreme Court Justice), and, believe it or not, Michele Obama. Michele has an IQ score of 115. Charlie's was estimated at 96.

What he absolutely DID say was that if he got on a plane and saw a black pilot, he'd hope he would be qualified. That shows just how utterly stupid CK was on such matters, speaking AS IF you were cut slack when testing to be a pilot because you're black. You either pass or you fail. Like taking the Bar exam, you either PASS or you FAIL. Like taking Nursing Certification boards, you PASS or you FAIL.

There's no adjustment for color, race, or anything else. IF you have your wings, you were qualified to get them. Do I think CK knew that - probably, but it didn't fit his narrative. If he didn't know that, he was even less informed than I could imagine.

I know you "think" Charlie was having "discourse" with college kids, or challenging them to think, but he was really there to tell them "if you don't think like me, you're wrong, and we're going to legislate against your thoughts so you might as well change what you think." That was his message.

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

Not entirely; it just proved that the left is largely against discourse. All they want moving forward is violence.
I didn’t follow Kirk, but a number of people who are trying to pick up the mantle have been floating through my feed lately. They’re inexperienced and unrefined, not unlike Kirk’s earliest debates. It’s difficult to tell if they’re similarly gifted and knowledgeable yet, but i admire their courage and their passion for engaging in meaningful conversations and debates. They’re already getting death threats, and of course law enforcement is still doing absolutely nothing about it.
It’s possible that a meaningful third party could evolve out of all of this extremism. Parsed appropriately for their values and platforms, we could really have four. Republicans are not necessarily MAGA, and vice versa. Democrats are not necessarily liberal, and vice versa. The main reason we still only have two parties is that too many people vote to win, rather than to better our country and its citizens. Democrats who are uncomfortable with the growing radicalization of their party are not going to be comfortable with republicans. They might find more in common with MAGA than they expect, but i’m not sure they’ll be entirely comfortable there either. For the first time in generations, voters are actually going to have to think long and hard about what is most important to them. Then look equally long and hard at what candidates are DOING as opposed to what they’re saying, and vote accordingly.
I also think that they should amend the major elections so that the candidate with the most votes gets the primary seat while the one with the second most gets the vice position. Stop appointing same-party vice presidents, governors, et cetera, and force our elected servants to work together for OUR best interests.

NaultD · Answer

He was always an advocate for violence. Pushing the limits of state sanction violence to the brink of chaos. He expects god his invisible hand to brutalize "other" people.

As a Christian national would embrace rapture with Jesus second return. With that comes hell destroying our moral world. Which is relevant with the discourse today and tomorrow.

The discourse never started. There has been only violence. This is what makes Jesus an amazing figure and people rally behind his teaching but none have replicated.

https://youtu.be/G-kSu2QIxUs?si=uEgw7iKqDq6pO4Ey

Curmudgeon · Answer

A corporation running a television network can decide that that they are losing too much money and too many viewers, and decide to drop the whole mess, or at least demand the "talent" stop asking it for so much money, and the Leftists lose their dupe-minds. And now they want to boycott Disney, which bent over FORWARDS to pander to them. Trump - is there nothing he cannot do?

Meanwhile, after over a decade of Leftist "cancel culture", the patriots finally learned to fight back and stop sticking to Queensberry rules when it became clear that there was no level to which the Leftists would not stoop. Finally, they are "punching back":

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eWl8MncpdE0

Miristheiss · Answer

You cannot have discourse with radical leftists. They have pegged everything as evil, everything they don't agree with (abortion on demand, open border, complete communism and collective entitlements, men in girls locker rooms and beating girls in girls sports) is fascism, racism, Nazism.

If everyone is Adolf Hitler then why not take out Hitler.

They fail to realize they are the fascists.

Sabretooth · Answer

''sanctimonious'? oh, oh, oh! I laughed at that! of all the accusations that you could've levied against me--you chose that one... seriously? Washington Post opinion columnist Karen Attiah says she was fired over Charlie Kirk posts: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/09/15/washington-post-columnist-karen-attiah-fired-charlie-kirk/86169162007/

WonderingManII · Answer

Many of the things that got talked about was getting talked about before He was a live, and they will be talked about after He died. He was just one of those that made a point to publicly have those discussions. Plus He was good at it. Personally I believe that such discussions helps some people come to faith. But the Bible already tells me that things are going to continue to get worse until Jesus returns. This is the part about Charlie I wonder about... Anyways it doesn't matter, I got my life to live and it looks 100 percent different from Charlie's.

Anonymous · Answer

I don't care how annoyed people on this site get from me posting about him Charlie Kirk will not be forgotten as long as I'm still alive

Flowersareawsome22 · Answer

Charlie Kirk live a lifestyle with Christian standards. I'm not into politics but from heat I study at the Kingdom Hall about a men and a woman scripture and I agree. I always wonder we Christian always get attacked. I bit if he was Catholic no one would say anything. I bet that shooter was a stupid CATHOLIC. Trump should also make it illegal for people to worthship that Guadalupe statue idol trash.

lightbulb27 · Answer

no, people are still talking and key people on the right did the correct thing and forgave, out of the heart of Christ. That... is remarkable and even... unheard of. Not something the left portion can process because they are not familiar with this.

I think there could be "that is too far events" that would force ones hand given the response of some on the left... e. g. some hateful things were said after he was killed/murdered. lets hope not.

Twalli · Answer

It seems to, judging by the lack of desire to talk to anyone who disagrees with them from those who have promised to carry his torch. Maybe Erika will surprise me, but all the men who have sworn to take up his torch have made it clear that they won't talk to those that disagree with them, Kirk would.

DrPepper12 · Answer

Only among MAGAs...

Cice369 · Answer

No. Before his death there were close to 4,000 turning point chapters. Afterwards, there was an influx of over 34,000 new chapter applications. Mainly at the high school and college level.
By honoring his memory embracing Christian, traditional values and not getting tricked into being gaslit by the same people gaslighting the left into being violent.

Anonymous · Answer

his death increased the discourse ten-fold. But only on one side, as liberals are STILL trying to defend the murder of Charlie because he didn't subscribe to their political beliefs. Conservative discussion is why peace is STILL the better option. And we've never seen it at this level.

dustybiker2 · Answer

Charlie died at the hands of someone unwell. If he hadn't he's still be spreading his misguided ways. The world is a safer place with less hate.

Lliam · Answer

If anything, his death increased the discourse, if you can call it discourse. More people than ever are talking about him.

NoDecision · Answer

All I can say is...

Sal_Monella · Answer

No. It will only accelerate. Like him or not, somebody who is stepping up is (!) Elon Musk. He does a half hour podcast on YouTube every day. We all don't have to sing the same position in the choir.

Jennz6 · Answer

Now he’s a legend

Anonymous · Answer

His death didn't stop the discourse. The left did. They hated him BECAUSE of the discourse he enabled.

Anonymous · Answer

The discourse among conservatives has increased.

beefcakebradybatson · Answer

Hopefully not.

Anonymous · Answer

Some people cannot reason.

RedInnocent69 · Answer

Hardly

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