I personally think that if you go to a Carnival parade it is not that big. Everything was so unnecessary. He was just a podcaster with shitty ideas. Don't get ne wrong I am sad that a person was killed, but I find all this memorial parade so unnecessary and just a propaganda used by Trump to make his position stronger. In fact, he called Kirk a martyr.
A lot of important people , from a social and political point of view died but no one cared as much as the death of a man who was sharing idiotic and retrograde ideas, so what is the reason of all of this if not propaganda?
American I am talking expecially with you , because you were closest to what happened, can you give me your opinion?
BadApple69 Do you know what is a fetus? It is not a baby, in fact you can't abort a baby but a fetus. If you agree with Kirk's ideas that means that you would force you 12 years old kid to have a baby if she was assaulted? I must be Godless how you call me, but you are anything better.
First of…. He wasn’t a pod caster. He was out in the schools and collages having conversations with people. He wasn’t sitting in a little room with only a microphone. As for “shitty ideas”? Which ones were shitty? I guess if you are a Godless and soulless person you might not like what he said. Actually if you were a demon you would hate what he said…. But please tell me what he said that was so shitty. I want you to think about something…. I have heard hundreds of mostly young collage age people talking bad about Charlie’s message, but world wide across so many countries they mourned his death and honored him With candlelight vigils. Hundreds of thousands of people (not Trump). I get it that you are a leftist and hate Trump and probably hated Charlie but this was bigger than Trump. Trump didn’t arrange world wide vigils…. That happened because people loved Charlie Kirk and loved his courage and his message. People found God through Charlie’s message. What will they find from your message?
People found God through Charlie's? I hope that's a joke. You want me to tell his shitty ideas? I will give you an example: he was against abortion and he said that if his daughter happened to he SA he would force her to keep the baby, keep the baby of a violence. When I called his ideas shitty I was being nice. I don't hate Trump or hated Kirk, I hate what they represent. I can assure you that here he wasn't loved at all, he wasn't even famous, he become someone known here just because he was killed and Trump used his death as propaganda. I am not a souless person, and if you agree with his ideas you are the soulless one. Call me a demon if you want. I am proud to be called that if that mean that I am far from Kirk or Trump's ideas.
@Clara4567. Let me set the facts straight… you are not against Charlie Kirk’s ideas, you are against the Bible and Gods ideas. That’s ok…. There are a lot of Godless people in the world today. You seem to be one of them. Abortion (like it or not) is killing a baby. That baby that is being aborted is a separate life form with different DNA from the mother and father. That’s a fact. You might not believe it’s alive but keep in mind an amoeba is a single celled organism and very much alive. So to say a fetus is only a few cells when aborted it too is alive. All of Charlie’s opinions were based on the Bible is based on his religion and his beliefs if you don’t believe that’s on you. But we shouldn’t kill people who we disagree with, and I hope you can agree with that.
@blackeagle007 just get it straight. I did not even vote for Trump in 2016. I did after I saw what a good president he was and how bad Biden was. I actually voted for Obama the first term, but not the second after he drone strike 2000 people without any due process which seems to be so important to you on the left. You know nothing about me, but I do know a few things about you like you cannot debate, but you can criticize and call people names even though you don’t know that person so if you wanna have an honest debate, let’s have it if you wanna call me names then I’m done with you
@BadApple69 of course I agree with your last sentence, we have free speech so we can say what we want and we shouldn't be killed because our ideas, I told that I am not happy a man was killed it was an horrible things. That happened not only because of different ideas but also because weapons are pretty available there for who wants them
First of all, it's "college" and not "collage". Second, telling people they're "demons, Godless and soulless" because they didn't like Charlie's message shows not only don't you know what he said, but you're exactly the person we need to be wary of. You,, like Charlie did, believe you had it ALL right because of how you interpreted your book, and you were willing to FORCE other people to accept your views by making them laws.
Charlie said an entire host of hateful things. They're readily available if you look them up. If you don't agree they're "shitty", that's your prerogative and perhaps millions agree with you. But many more millions do not and not just "leftists".
Something YOU should think about before you throw the term leftists around. Leftists are considered to be the "liberal" thinkers in the world, the ones who are creative and willing to engage in new ideas and progress. IF it were not for "liberal thinkers" sir, you'd still be living in a cave and starting fires with stones and twigs. Think about that before you come after people who are equally courageous as you believe Charlie was, because they stood up to his hateful racism and pseudo Christianity.
@loveslongnails you got great words of wisdom. I’m not saying anything about Charlie Kirk at all, playing it totally safe. See, we’ll stand a chance of losing our jobs now if we bad mouth him and Trump. Free speech is gone, total bullshit
@blackeagle007 That's pathetic, isn't it? Free speech but you could lose your job if the President doesn't like it? Then he tells you he's for free speech? That's insanity. That's fascism. That's the new America.
Find me a video of Charlie Kirk being bigoted and fascist. I’ll wait. Not one clipped up by some idiot lefty, but one of his actual answers to a question.
@Vegasrunner lol, if he was racist, it’d be easy to prove. Post one of his videos where you claim he was racist. It’s an easy task, he was very prolific. Or you could be the usual lefty coward and just say stupid shit without evidence.
@seeyounexttuesday Lol, it has been easy to prove that's why you're arguing with all the people calling that deadbeat a racist. May not be easy to prove to you but that could be because you're a racist too. At least the dude is gone let him rest in hell.
@Vegasrunner you have the reasoning level of a toddler. Here’s a newsflash for you, which you won’t be able to comprehend. No one cares if you call them bigots/nazis/racist/misogynist/homophobe/transphobe any more. When we hear you losers utter those words, it shows you have zero ability to discuss things.
@seeyounexttuesday I'm sure that insult goes over at the Klan rally, however not sure why anyone would want to discuss anything w/ people who hold those hateful racist views. in my opinion best thing that happened is there's one less one walking the earth.
I thought Charlie kirk reached a lot of people and from my experience in college you are pressured into going a long with an agenda you dont believe and shamed just because of your race and religion. Personally I've so many stories of batshit crazy stuff that goes on. Charlie she'd a light on how crazy this all is where we were b4 afraid to speak.
I had never even heard of that troublemaker until after his demise and saw absolutely no reason for all the hoopla over a loudmouth agitator. It is shameful that our current federal administration has created so much unrest and civil disobedience throughout the nation today.
Europeans tend to be socialists, and the results speak for themselves.
MANY people disagree with your assessment that Charlie Kirk was idiotic and retrograde, but - at least in the US - you have the right to think whatever you want. Just remember that being convinced that you are right does not really mean that you are right.
Where did I said I am right , I am just giving my opinion, it can be the same of different from yours, I would never tell you that mine is right and yours isn't
I thought it was an incredible, inspirational, and a massive event with very large in-person attendance and viewership. I was watching parts of it on Fox Live youtube channel, and I can recall it showing over 180k+ viewers on that channel alone.
Charlie Kirk is a martyr and an inspiration, despite you hateful leftists denouncing him otherwise. He engaged in thoughtful debates across college campuses around the nation, challenging the harmful leftist ideologies that have plagued our nation for many years. Family, faith, and freedom of speech were very important values to him and he clearly radiated that in his message. In a time where sociopolitical violence and polarized tensions between Americans were at a breaking point, he made it a mission to share his ideas and faith in moments of despair. He founded a great and successful organization, Turning Point USA, from a young age. He became recognized so much that he was featured in South Park in a more-recent episode.
We are finding more and more that the leftists have become the most violently radicalized. From the tranny freaks who shot up Christian schools in both Tennessee and Minnesota to the demise of a great influencer Charlie Kirk, leftist radicalism is becoming more and more a growing threat everyday.
My parents are evicting a crazy leftist living below me that has created a hostile living environment. She will have to face the consequences she created and will have to navigate the astronomical rent prices elsewhere the Xiden regime has caused (and what she voted for).
Weather you like him or not. He could see the evil that is taking over America. He could see that we had no more government that the all have become pawn. To the big business corporations secret societies and all the donors from these groups. Weather your republican or democrat your owned by the same secret societies the donors of your re-election
And out of 575 federal elected officials there's not one of them will stand up to be great
He uses voice to try to warned the American people. What was happening? Even though we are also f****** stupid. We already know but none of us have the balls enough to do what charlie was doing. He was 1 man who knew? That talking the way he was talking to get him killed.
Is death was senseless. If anything it should be another wake up call that proves the people that we put into office are garbage. They have all been bought and sold. And the\n Sooner.\n That the secret society of rich people get their way. The sooner we all disappear... to the American people if you do not see what is really going on. ... today the rich are becoming so fucking rich. And 3/4 or more of the middle class have just become broke
You always would hope that things would change for the better.
It's never going to happen we have now went in to the know return
One thing is going to save us all. And that is everyone on gag start talking about the Straw man
Every single one of us if you are born in America you are owed 1 million to 50 million dollars. Right now today and it was just past in the supreme Court. That that money is yours and you have to do the paper work to get it right now
trump is trying to squeeze as much as he can from Kirk's death before more important news and time inevitably overshadow it; which is what's already happening.
Like you said, trump used Kirk as a tool to serve his goals. To him, that's all people are and ever will be.
Fortunately, trump's so-called "wins" never last long. He's humiliated himself at the UN yesterday, a clandestine statue of him and Epstein installed in DC is going viral and Jimmy Kimmel is back on the air, still mocking that stupid "glazed ham with deep vein thrombosis" 😆.
A major win for free speech and another setback for the depressing fucking pig in the White House.
Gross, performative bullshit, scary evangelical vibe, and Pres. Pedo ruined it, just by being there, and acted like a weirdo, because it temporarily took attention away from him. People also wondered why CK’s picture wasn’t on the pamphlets and big banner, instead being plastered with OrangeTurds smug and tired face. The most frightful thing of ALL has to be Steven Miller, who is high on hate. His speech felt very angry and dangerous.
The only good thing is I hear that CK’s wife said she forgave the killer, which surprised me, but I thought was a nice gesture, whether or not that is true, I don’t know—Because this gross group is not known for modeling traditionally ‘Christian’ values very often, or very well.
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Charlie Kirk was more than a podcaster, he was a cultural icon. He dropped out of college to be a warrior in the fight for America itself. He captured the imaginations of millions of young people and his organization became one of the largest political organizations in the country.
In the 2024 election President Trump got the majority of male voters in the 18-30 year old demographic. It is believed that Charlie Kirk was instrumental in this feat.
President Trump and many high level government officials, celebrities and business and spiritual leaders were in attendance as well as over 90,000 Americans who were trying to make sense of his murder.
Kirk was no agent of peace or tolerance, nor the master debater his fans hallucinate him to be. There are no shortage of videos in which moderately educated people have had no trouble pointing out his lies and schooling him until he would just say "well, you and I don't agree on this", as if he'd made some kind of point. It was his last stronghold and he used it often. The 90,000 who mourned him likely make up about 80% of all people in the US who actually cared.
@Danzigdawson He did not use the slogan "prove me wrong" for nothing. In the two weeks after his death there has been over 12,000 new Turning Point chapters in colleges and high schools all over the country. He was turning millions of young people into MAGA supporters and maybe that is what got him killed.
"Everything was so unnecessary. He was just a podcaster with shitty ideas."
no! he was a brave man who stood up to all the chaos that plague our society. I just noticed your profile says you are from Italy and I'm obviously not surprised because you Europeans are not so concern about your own freedom as much as we Americans are. you all rather believe everything the elites tell you
"A lot of important people , from a social and political point of view died but no one cared as much as the death of a man who was sharing idiotic and retrograde ideas"
the only idiotic and retrograde ideas today are the ones you Europeans are being consumed by. you all decided to leave your borders open and let savages from African and the Middle East envade your nations and fuck your people over just so you all can say you are not "racist." if that not masochism then I dont know what masochism is
I didn’t watch it but I think it’s sad he got shot and killed , whether you like him or not. Our country is all about freedom of speech and that’s what he was doing , and he got killed over it , which is pathetic to me , he didn’t deserve to get killed just because not everyone agrees with his views on things. We live in a fucked up society because none of us can all agree on things No matter who is right or wrong it doesn’t matter because we all can’t agree on everything, if we did , this world and solidity would be a much better place. But unfortunately there are a lot of people on this planet That are fucked in the head and there are a lot of judgmental hypocritical people as well that try to rub their 2 cents together that clearly don’t know shit. I don’t think anyone should be killed over what they believe or say , if you don’t like it, don’t listen to it , plain and simple , but again people can be easily fucked in the head
I agree. Some journalist said it was equivlent to a state funeral. They said the only other celebrity to have a memorial like this was Steve Irwin, and Steve Irwin was loved by all. This was absolutely ridiculous and over the top. Regardless of whether you supported his ideas or not, all he was was an activist and podcaster. definitely not worthy of a state funeral
I think Tucker is going to face a rude awaking when Turning Point starts bringing the pain to Islam. He's taking that Muslim money and going all Candice Owens on Israel for the dosh... He's going to find himself on the wrong side of history when Turning Point starts slamming his pay masters.
A tranny Palestinians may have trained Charlie's assassin, but Charlie's organization is training Christians to destroy Islam by the millions... Game over.
It a clown show organized by dirtbags honoring an asshole. Who cares. More political theater from MAGA while the country burns under tRump.
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He was the most prominent conservative advocate in the U. S. He had a national radio show, one of only 20. He toured high schools and college campuses over 200 days a year. He had a $100 million organization using zero taxpayer dollars, with 3,500 chapters and 300,000 members, the largest of its kind, conservative or leftist. He was not just some random TikTok influencer.
I think Charlie would have tried to reach out to you and have a debate or just talk.
You have your opinions and that's ok. But he would have talked with you and listened. Then give his opinion.
Try to have a more open opinion in life, listen and talk with others you disagree with, you never know you might just learn they aren't that much different than you...
Sorry folks, but I care more about the kids killed in school shootings who were totally innocent than I do for one man who spread lies and hate. ** That doesn't mean I condone his shooting in any way, no matter who is responsible. It means I don't care about the bs shitshow Trump and the not-so-Christian right are putting on display ** You don't see this when kids are killed. Two days later it's out of the news rotation, and they're far more important than CK was.
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So... Charlie Kirk had no Coroner's Report. No Church Funeral. No Burial Site OR Grave. No Official Death Certificate. No ballistics report. Not a single eye witness on the record. And an award winning widow already taking over his show.
I didn't like the guy. He went to pride and harassed gay people to bring them to Jesus? He thought School shootings are necessary. He said terrible things about poc. eso woc. But I do feel bad for his small kid who saw it.
Charlie who? Was he important did he do something important I don't know nothing about this guy I can care less about some guy named Charlie Clark when I see Donald Trump's picture included with it
I never heard of him before he was assassinated and the more of his stuff I see the more I dont like him. Sorry he got killed no one deserves that but im definitely not heartbroken
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I notice that she was surrounded by (presumably bullet-proof) glass on the stage. I wonder why that was needed? She was not the one saying unpopular things.
they'll never be as beloved as Charlie and they know it
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Not interested. I've been telling you hateful people to ease up on the smears for decades and now you're the side of killers. It was never my job to fix you guys and nonetheless I tried. But now you're murdering people. Fix yourself, I'm done.
I dont think about it because I didn't watch it. He was killed by Israel and all his friends are Israel puppets. Even his adoring wife. Total kite take over
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It was a sick use of the death of a young man for political gain.
Who is MAGA? AMERICANS hate the left always using violence instead of sitting down at a table and having a conversation. That’s all Charlie wanted to do and the left killed him for it. Yes AMERICANS are angry that you killed someone who just wanted to talk. You were not forced to listen, but you did. And the fact the left could never prove him wrong pissed off the left to the point they had to kill him to silence him.
@BadApple69 So who was the mastermind? Clearly the killer had no relation to the left. He had to be a mercenary that someone hired. Also, Kirk wanted to talk with someone who wasn't ready with facts. Parker is a well-known TikTok and YouTube podcaster for the left. He followed Kirk to several colleges, because Kirk refused every (and there were a lot) invitation Parker gave him to debate. Parker had the facts at hand; Kirk couldn't refute them when presented.
I don't know his last name, his YouTube handle is Parkergetajob, and he never has said his last name in his videos.
The shooter was indoctrinated by the left. There doesn’t have to be a mastermind just leftist politicians saying Charlie Kirk was a Nazi. Say that enough times and the weak minded will think they are doing something good by assassinating Charlie. The left know what they are doing. Saying those on the right are a threat to democracy, that if we get in power there will never be elections again, saying Trump is Hitler is all in the hopes that some mentally ill leftist will kill him. It’s evil but that’s what it’s about. As for this Parker guy… I don’t know who he is but people who sat down to talk with Charlie Kirk thought they too had all the answers. That’s why Charlie wanted to talk with them, to try to open their minds. No one forced people to sit down and talk. People wanted to challenge Charlie. So you indicate that Charlie wasn’t speaking facts… what did he say that wasn’t true? Keep in mind that he was a very religious man and if you are an unbeliever his views might seem foreign. That doesn’t make them untrue just unfamiliar.
I just looked up Parkergetajob sorry dude. This guy is horrible. The 3rd video a watched he asked if the guy was antifa? The guy said no so he said then your pro-fascism? If you are not one thing that doesn’t mean you are the other. That’s a stupid argument. And every video I watched he did what you claimed Charlie did. Tried to make people look stupid. Of course he was asking questions that he knew the answers already.
@BadApple69 Which was my point. He asked Charlie questions with the documentation and facts on hand. This wasn't familiar to Charlie. As for being a threat to democracy, it'd be easy to disprove it, if they weren't actually doing it. They don't try to disprove it, because it's true. I don't recall anyone calling Charlie Kirk a Nazi or fascist. Sure, he's a member of the group that is being called that, but he wasn't called that directly.
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