Should atheism be banned or restricted by law?

[control96]

Atheism is a denial of any divine authority and it is becoming increasingly widespread. It's more than just a belief system, it is a mindset that promotes human superiority over all creation, which leads to emotional instability, anxiety, and moral confusion. The rejection of God, cause rising crime rates, refusal to embrace parenthood, and a breakdown of traditional family values and all of which threaten the fabric of society.

If these patterns continue, should governments consider regulating atheistic ideologies to protect social order and mental well-being?

[loveslongnails]

Your definition is adjusted to support your narrative, so let's clarify that using the KISS method:
Atheism: Simply the rejection of the belief in a god or gods. That's it. That's all it is. Obviously, it doesn't reject "divine authority" because recognize that there IS any. Then you proceed to some further unsound and incorrect premises, null hypothesis and conjecture. You offer absolutely no data to support your assertions; they are merely subjective opinions based on personal observations.

Atheists do not have a mindset of "human superiority over all creation". It's Christians who believe they have dominion over all creation, except God and his angels. Atheists are quite open to the idea that life must exist outside of what they know, while many Christians are not.

As usual, it seems that the currently overused, but true statement, that "all of your accusations are actually confessions" fully applies. Emotional instability, anxiety, moral confusion... hmmm, sounds like virtually every Christian I've ever met and the stats back that up. There is NO evidence that religion promotes the dissolution of the aforementioned, nor evidence that atheism does.

Asserting that "the rejection of God", or a god, promotes crime is absurd. And the lack of which "family values" are you claiming is responsible for the unraveling of societal fabric? Seems to me atheists do a much better job of caring for their fellow man than major religions do.

The dangerous proposal here is your suggestion, along with the even MORE dangerous idea that governments should regulate ideologies concerning "faith" or the lack thereof, in someone's idea of divinity or godliness. You sound like a manipulator, or troll, proposing the ABSURD idea that a group of peers should attempt to FORCIBLY regulate thoughts so they produce the behaviors YOU desire.

Perhaps you think because you've worded the post in an academic fashion that it's less obvious, but it's not. You're proposing a STATE RUN RELIGION. So the answer is NO, no government "of the people" should consider this idea. This is EXACTLY what the writers of the US Constitution didn't want. and you should take this proposal and shove it up your butt.

[Effably]

Atheism is a denial of any divine authority and it is becoming increasingly widespread. It's more than just a belief system, it is a mindset that promotes human superiority over all creation, which leads to emotional instability, anxiety, and moral confusion. The rejection of God, cause rising crime rates, refusal to embrace parenthood, and a breakdown of traditional family values and all of which threaten the fabric of society.

Atheism is not a belief. There is no divine authority that can be proven from any of the many hundreds of religions. Atheism does not promote human superiority. Atheists on average suffer less anxiety and show stronger morals than, for example, Christians. This is tested repeatedly. They also know more about the bible and God.

Atheists factually commit less crime than religious groups such as Christians or Muslims.

The only thing you said that has any merit is that indeed, atheists seems to have fewer children. This tends to align with being higher educated though and as such is likely not linked to atheism.

[control96]

You’re very ignorant. Atheism makes no sense. Humans didn’t create themselves. That means there has to be a higher power. Saying there’s no God is just foolish. If God doesn’t exist, then who made us? Cars are made by people, but the human body is way more complex. It’s not something that happens by accident. Atheists's understanding of the subject is limited that’s why they’re wrong.

[Effably]

So your entire argument for religion is that you are unable to explain things. Let us ignore the fact that we can and are solving these things and that that has no meaning at all to if any god exists.

Why your religion? Why not one of the thousands of other ones? They all explain these things. So why would yours be right?

[control96]

You are not worth my time.

[Effably]

You have no ground to stand on and we both know it. At least you realized it which is better than some.

[loveslongnails]

So if nothing creates itself, who or what created God or where did God come from? Where did this higher power spring from. Are you going to say " it just was. It's always been there". So your entirely discourse to this point has been "something can't spring from nothing, therefore God MUST exist". Yet you are willing to just accept that "God always was" because you have no other explanation for it, therefore it must be true, and all of you don't accept that are being foolish.

That's what your argument is, in a nutshell.

[DrPepper12]

Theists are too terrified to say "I don't know" so they cling to neolithic fairy tales

[loveyouoak]

What a shallow question. How would you feel if someone else suggested banning your religion?

[control96]

My religion is not nonsense. It stands for truth and meaning. Atheists are so full of themselves, they don’t even see how empty their ideas are. That kind of arrogance always leads to failure.

[loveslongnails]

Truth? You don't even know who AUTHORED your "truth" for certain. You accept words told to you without much questioning. As to failure, "religion" is one of the biggest failures on the planet especially in terms of war and death. Religious "soldiers" have been fighting for centuries and it's proven NOTHING, not a thing, just like your dismissive arguments.

[FunkyMonkee]

No, but religion should!! Look at how much hate and murder it spews!! When was the last time you had 2 atheists try to kill each other in an argument over their religious beliefs? '"My non-god is better than your non-god!!"
If there is a god, prove it!! Until I actually see one, I'm an atheist!
Religion was invented to keep us under control!! WHY do you WANT to be controlled?
I'm CERTAINLY NOT emotionally unstable, anxious or morally confused!! And, anybody that tells you that bullshit IS morally confused, unstable and probably loaded with angst!!
I rejected god about 55 years ago and so far, my biggest crime has been accidentally stealing a.25c pack of incense!
I would LOVE to be a parent!! The only reason I haven't become one before now is that I haven't found anyone to share that honour with until now!
I'll bet I've got at least as much family values as you, if not more!!
Whoever told you all this shit has their head up their ass and is BRAINWASHING YOU SO YOU CAN BE CONTROLLED!! NONE OF IT'S TRUE!!!

[genericname85]

so here's the massive problem with your statement. one is that you're assuming atheism leads people to do more crime cause they reject "devine authority". the fact is that religious people commit more crimes cause they "put their individual justifications for their actions (assuming they are of devine authority) above the law". and i'm not makinmg that up. incarceration rates are higher among christians than among atheists if you correct for overall population proportions.

If you wanted to make the argument you're making it would be necessary that reality reflects that by the incarceration rates of atheists but the reality actually contradicts that so you have to change that idea of yours unless you're ok with being delusional.

another thing i wanna mention is: can you find any evidence of "atheism" being a motive for criminal action? i'm not aware of any. meanwhile religious convictions regularly lead to crimes.

[genericname85]

so the weird thing is: religious people tend to take part in several activities that actually are predictors for being less criminal than atheists overall. yet they factually are more criminal.

[control96]

Religion teaches moral boundaries and forbids criminal behavior. In contrast, atheism denies the existence of a higher power, often reducing human life to a self-centered existence where only personal desires matter. This worldview, built on shaky assumptions, undermines the idea of objective morality.

As atheism becomes more widespread, we see a gradual erosion of ethical values, which poses a serious threat to the health and stability of our society.

[genericname85]

religion doesn't teach the law tho and the law decides what's a crime or not, not the bible. i don't see many people going to prison cause they were gluttonous or cause they had sex without marriage do you? so yeah.

[genericname85]

the health and stability of society is degrading because of economic issues. not cause people become atheists. secular moral values actually got us out of the dark ages. if we didn't have that, we'd still behead thieves and think the globe is flat. so even as a christian you should be happy that religious docrin no longer writes the laws of society.

[DonaldDarko]

Atheism is not something you decide to believe it's something you slowly discover. When I became an atheist it got my mind right. Suddenly the world made sense. The indoctrination I received as a child was obvious bull shit. There was no more a man in the sky looking down on me than the shit the communists say about men turning into women. The real value in religious literature is that it is instructive mythology. Ancient people knew a lot about life and how it works. I don't think books like the bible were intended to be taken literally but metaphorically. I'm glad I read the bible and I still read scriptures on occasion today. I read them because they are true and insightful not because there are literal talking snakes. I know that's as crazy as tampons in the men's room.

[Anonymous]

not achievable

but laws should definitely be stricter for crime, more funding for police etc.

all free speech should be enabled because red-pill and right-wing speech can absolutely annihilate leftist speech in a logic debate

though one solution would be to allow all atheists cultists who believe in 53 different genders and the world will end in 2050 due to global warming amongst other BS like abortion and reparations etc. to have their own country

and let them face the consequences of their beliefs and actions e. g. open borders

[OneViewpoint]

No, atheism should be taught in schools. All of these bullshit religions that teach lies about imaginary invisible sky fairies should be banned by law. We should have reeducation camps with deprogramming systems for all of these religious cults and their weak minded cult members.

[control96]

God is real and He will punish you.
You mock Him now, but your arrogance will not protect you forever. Every insult, every denial, every word you spit will be counted.

This world runs with divine order, not your broken logic.
So keep laughing. When judgment comes, it is going to be too late to beg.

[OneViewpoint]

Sounds like you’re trying really hard to convince the lies you’ve been fed are reality. The jokes on you. Your god is a lie.

[control96]

See you later alligator

[OneViewpoint]

In a while king of denial

[OneViewpoint]

Oh gosh, what would Jesus say?

Nothing. Jesus is a fairytale for stupid people.

[Danzigdawson]

@OneViewpoint Well, you've surely managed to draw out his "christian" side!

[OneViewpoint]

@Danzigdawson ,

But he still believes his sick religion endows him with superior morality somehow. They really are the filth of this society.

[DrPepper12]

I think you need Jesus... Jk!! You need atheism BADLY!!!

[Danzigdawson]

If anything should be banned by law, it's religion.

[andreasderjuengere]

Any law that ''bans'' - is a sign that some law maker is scared of people having own thoughts.

[Chazmatazz269]

Atheism is rooted in ignorance. It’s not growing any faster than religion is.

[stratford]

An atheistic ideoligy is just another form of relegion.

[control96]

Absolutely not. Atheism is not a religion. It is an anti-God ideology that actively undermines the moral and spiritual foundations of society. It rejects divine authority, erases meaning from human existence, and promotes a self-centered worldview. This isn’t just a belief system and it behaves more like a personality disorder that disconnects individuals from purpose, responsibility, and community.

[stratford]

I know what it is. Ideology is another word for religion, an extreme view of the world.
If we're banning atheism, we're banning Islam and Christianity too.

[control96]

Your understanding of the topic is painfully shallow. I am done wasting time on it. Go educate yourself before trying to speak on things you clearly don’t understand.

[stratford]

Your response sums up your heavily biased and monolistic view of the world.
I actually thought you might like to engage in a meaningful and intelliectual conversation but you've just moved the conversation into something with personal insults and aggression.
It is I who wasted my time even assuming you would be open minded.

[stratford]

And the true character is revealed. Thanks for your kind words.

[control96]

You are mentally ill.

[stratford]

And you're blocked. Please take your negative vibes away from GaG.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Atheism is an irreligious choice, like (my) Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, Hindi or any faith's adherents.

[blackeagle007]

Separation of government and church. Take note

[exitseven]

No, burning in hell will be punishment enough

[Agape93]

Nope.

[In_Trance]

No it shouldn't

[control96]

Why not?

[In_Trance]

Pointless act with 0 benefit

[control96]

Denying God is dangerous.

[In_Trance]

That's a fallacy

[Danzigdawson]

@control96 god sucks cocks in hell.