Why do leftists use poverty as an excuse to justify a high crime rate?

[Anonymous]

[Syntosi]

According to modern criminal science, the single best indicator for criminality is poverty. It is literally the foundation of our current understanding to connect the two and as a result, the first step to fighting any criminality is to first fight poverty.

If you have high criminality but without poverty then that is when you start having actual problems but I dont think that many people can claim today that modern societies are not struggling with poverty and income inequality.

Likewise, pretending we could have a society with poverty but low crime rates goes against what we know of how humans work. It is literally "inhuman".

As such, one can not talk about criminality without also talking about poverty. They are intrinsically linked.

[exitseven]

no , cashless bail, suspended sentences, prisons that are like hotels are all causes of criminality.
What ever happened to the three strikes rule. 3 felony convictions and you go away for life. That was a deterrent for crime.

[Syntosi]

@exitseven I have gone to class in criminology at university level, I have spoken to professionals, I have read studies. I can tell for certain that you are full of shit.

The idea that you can increase punishment to scare future criminals and deter criminality is gogo gaga shit that every person without a clue always believes is "obvious" when starting out learning about how the world actually works.

[blackeagle007]

I agree. We have the stiffest punishments towards crime (China as well). But yet, crime still happens! There’s cashless bail for celebrities, public figures and mostly cops if they ever get charged with crimes (which is rare) i got a dui 11 years ago, had to put up $300 for bond. First offense, I’m not a minority. But yea there’s cashless bail. Bunch of bullshit.

[NaultD]

It's not an excuse. It's addressing the root problem. We live in a capitalist risk vs reward economic system. so to live day to day what do you need to do to get by?

Money isn't a moral value judgement, it's a means to an end. Roof over your head, clothes on your back, food in your stomach.

So leftist want to make the basic nessesity as readily available so we can criticize discretionary actions and spending.

[petitedollbabee]

It’s not an excuse to justify high crime rate, it is simply cause and effect. Poverty results in high crime rate. That doesn’t make it okay - poverty isn’t okay in the first place. Educate yourself and research this if you think it’s just a “leftists” belief.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Why do you use poverty as an excuse to cut social programs that prevent it?

[Twodogs0525]

Social programs never have prevented poverty. It's the old saying, "You get just enough to starve on" or something like that. If they did end poverty, what need would there be for crime?

[Ariesman81]

Agree with others. Pointing out the correlation isn't the problem. Their solution to the problem is however. Charity is a band-aid and only teaches dependence rather than self reliance and self improvement. Enabling is making the left feel better, it does nothing to remedy the problem.

[Anonymous]

The core issue is culture. Poverty is a result of culture, and crime is a result of poverty.

The problem with leftists is impoverished people vote, and leftist policies, while they don't fix the core cultural problems, do convince impoverished people to vote Democrat.

That's also why leftists have always supported illegal immigration. For votes. But that failed last year, and will fail again in 2028. People have seen through the leftist lies.

[DrPepper12]

Because "Poverty is the father of crime, neglect it's mother"

Urban areas ALWAYS have more crime since Uruk & Ur in Sumeria!!! Urban areas, where the wealth is, attract diverse people. This isn't hard.

[uninterrupted]

Because Democrats embezzle money earmarked for homelessness. A lot of money get pumped into solving homelessness and they see all that money and see it as a justification to steal it because they want to be rich.

[Anonymous]

No, you idiot. Poverty is one of the biggest contributors to crime. If you're poor and trying to survive, what difference does it make if you commit crimes that will get you 3 meals a day and lodging?

The crime rate is what it is for many reasons. How stupid do you have to be to accuse anyone of "justifying" FACTS? God, you mini-magas are annoyingly dumb.

[abc3643]

Think about it...

What is the motivation for crime?
For people like Trump, it's pure greed.
For poor people, it's getting money to survive.

[ProbablyClueless]

It's a concerted effort they make to remove personal responsibility.

[jshm2]

Your lack of sources, proves you made that shit up.

[Anonymous]

they only use poverty as an excuse for their side

[exitseven]

Liberals are all victims. They refuse to take personal responsibility for anything.

[Syntosi]

As opposed to Republicans which is famous for never, ever, ever taking responsibility. After all, even when Trump and the GOP is controlling literally every aspect of government today, it is still somehow the democrats fault that the government is still shut down.

Truly, the GOP is a victim mentality as a political party.

[exitseven]

@Syntosi All republicans voted to avoid the shutdown, /democrats are the ones that shut it down.

[Syntosi]

Exactly. So whats the problem?

[exitseven]

@Syntosi Ask Schumer. Republicans gave them an clean CR level funding from last year. Democrats want to raise the budget 1.5 trillion dollars on giving illegal aliens medicaid among other anti American programs.

[Syntosi]

Literally irrelevant. The responsibility to keep the government open sits in the ruling party's lap. The Democrats dont have to do shit.

Why do you think that Trump has had his government shut down more days than every other president combined? I mean, the Republicans are normally bad at keeping the government open but damn son, Trump just can't swing it.

[Anonymous]

Because they can't come up with ideas and their leaders are all idiots.

[TonyMetal___86]

It's not an excuse but it surely does contribute in elevating the rate of crimes

[beefcakebradybatson]

Why do rightists justify white-collar crime as (rich white) boys being (rich white) boys?

[noohair]

They make money on the poverty fix, abd don't fix anything

[Anonymous]

Pointing out the reason isn't justifying it.