Do you support removing illegal immigrants from Medicaid to reduce the cost for Americans?

[Anonymous]

[abc3643]

I will let Google AI answer for me:

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Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for full Medicaid coverage under federal law, but some states use their own funds to provide limited or broader health benefits. However, even in those states, eligibility often varies by age, pregnancy status, and income. [1, 2]

Federal policy and emergency careNo full Medicaid coverage: Federal rules prohibit undocumented immigrants from enrolling in federally funded programs like Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), or Medicare.
Emergency Medicaid: Undocumented immigrants can receive limited Medicaid assistance for emergency medical care. This does not provide comprehensive coverage but instead reimburses hospitals for the costs of stabilizing and treating emergency conditions, including labor and delivery.
Emergency care is required: The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) requires hospitals to provide care to anyone experiencing a medical emergency, regardless of their immigration status or ability to pay. Emergency Medicaid helps offset these costs for hospitals.
Pregnancy and childbirth: Undocumented immigrants are covered by Emergency Medicaid for labor and delivery services. Additionally, some states use a CHIP option to provide prenatal care and pregnancy-related benefits to pregnant women, regardless of their immigration status, because their babies will be U. S. citizens. [3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]
State-funded programsSeveral states have expanded their own health care coverage options, using state-only funds, to fill the gaps for undocumented residents. These programs differ significantly by state regarding who is covered and what services are offered.
Some states cover children: Many states offer coverage to undocumented children, and some also cover pregnant women, using state funds or CHIP options.
Other states offer limited adult coverage: As of early 2025, a few states offered some form of state-funded health benefits to at least some undocumented adults.
Enrollment is changing: Some states that previously offered coverage to undocumented adults have recently scaled back or frozen enrollment due to budget constraints. [1, 13]
Where else can undocumented immigrants receive care? Aside from state programs and emergency services, undocumented immigrants can get care from other sources, such as:
Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs)
Free clinics
Employer-sponsored health insurance (if available)
Individual-market health insurance (purchase outside the Health Insurance Marketplace)

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[abc3643]

[1] www.healthinsurance.org/.../
[2] ccf.georgetown.edu/.../
[3] www.kff.org/.../
[4] www.npr.org/.../shutdown-undocumented-immigrants-medicaid-obamacare
[5] www.kff.org/.../
[6] https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF11912
[7] ccf.georgetown.edu/.../

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[8] ccf.georgetown.edu/.../
[9] forumtogether.org/.../...rants-and-Health-Care.pdf
[10] www.healthinsurance.org/.../
[11] www.kff.org/.../
[12] https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF11912
[13] www.kff.org/.../
[14] www.healthinsurance.org/.../

[msc545]

No, I don't support this at all. Just because you can save some money doing this does not mean it's a good idea to do so.

If you don't provide medical care for illegal immigrants, then they are going to be here anyway and they are going to catch diseases which they will then spread to everyone else, including the rest of us that are legally here.

Also, speaking as a medical professional, I will tell you that we do not deny medical care to anyone based on the legality of their citizenship or anything else. This includes immigrants, illegal or not. We provide medical care for everyone, and we will continue to do so whether you pay for it or not. The thing is, if you don't pay for it, we won't be able to do very much of it, and again you will be exposed to diseases. Since many of you do not believe in vaccinations, it might be in your best interest to not be exposed to diseases. Denying medical care to anyone exposes you and your loved ones to great danger, and you should not do this.

[loveslongnails]

Please see my post on this.

[Tamera952]

They don’t get Medicaid you fu*king d***a** !! They never did. And You could have easily looked that up, before embarrassing yourself by asking such a question.
Although it’s worth mentioning, and you should note, that despite not being able to use Medicaid, they DID pay INTO it for all of our benefit—so there is that.

[FreyaRed]

I'm not American and I have no clue how healthcare insurance in US works but what happens when an illegal immigrant has a heart attack does ambulance help them despite they have no insurance and have no money?

[NaultD]

en.wikipedia.org/.../Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act

[Ariesman81]

"The MinnesotaCare program provides subsidized health insurance to low-income Minnesotans, regardless of immigration status. This includes access to primary care, dental, vision, and prescription drug coverage.

It's important to note that undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal healthcare programs, such as Medicaid. However, Minnesota has chosen to provide healthcare coverage to this population through its own state-funded program."

Democrats want illegal immigrants to be part of Medicaid.

[msc545]

This is a local program in Minnesota, and if the people in Minnesota are okay with this, then Minnesota has a right to do it. I realize that in this case, the cruelty is the point, but I think you're not going to be able to accomplish this in Minnesota because the people in Minnesota aren't going to stand for it. In my opinion, none of us should stand for it.

[Stevepro68]

Yes and I also support stopping Disney movie characters from collecting social security. I also think people who build arks and start collecting 2 of every animal, should not be getting federal farm subsidies. Lastly I think the federal military budget needs to stop funding the death star because of blows up the earth where will we live? Crazy how taxes are being wasted on these things.

[Anonymous]

Illegal immigrants can't even apply for benefits you moron.

It's the stupid teen moms stupid woman who couldn't keep their legs close and popped bastards.

If we supportes abortion clinics none of this would be a problem. Yes young moms live of Medicaid. How about making teen mom illegal in America. Teen mom is a huge problem and magan clap 👏 at teen moms for being stupid and pooping a bastard kid. Idiot !

HOW ABOUT WE PUT AN END TO HAVING KIDS YOUNG ! I hate teen moms.

[loveslongnails]

One more time for the dummies in maga: "undocumented persons", or illegal immigrants as you like to call them... wait for it... ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID!!! Or CHIP, the Children's Health Initiative Program, or for Food Stamps, or many other federal programs.

Look it up for fuck's sake and stop repeating the lies and bullshit you hear on Fox Entertainment Horseshit Network. They're not ON the Medicaid payrolls. God you maga's are stupid.

[NoDecision]

Absolutely. It is not the taxpayer's job to support the whole world. It's time we took care of our own. That will never happen of course, but it would be nice.

[msc545]

It is also not the taxpayer's job to provide military support to the entire globe, or most of it. But our government seems to think it is because they have great financial deals with the defense contractors. It's time we stop that, since it's costing about a trillion dollars of taxpayer money every year to keep it up.

[Syntosi]

Illegal immigrants are not covered under Medicaid. You are already enjoying the benefits of this supposed "savings".

[Ariesman81]

It's what you want though

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 I am in favor of free healthcare for everyone and as a service that would be cheaper than what America currently has. In other words, I am trying to save you money.

[Ariesman81]

Do you agree with Minnesota's policy of giving free healthcare to illegal immigrants?

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 I dont see a problem with that. Again, my plan would literally be cheaper than what you have currently. Do you want to save money or not?

[msc545]

@Syntosi I don't think that people who want to ration healthcare like this are actually that interested in saving money. I think the "you can save money from this routine" is simply a red herring. The real purpose in denying healthcare is to impose horrible conditions on some people because for the right wing, the cruelty is the point. They seem to derive pleasure from this and they are also hoping that if they impose enough cruelty, these people will simply leave. This includes not only illegal immigrants but also anybody with the wrong skin color, which is anything but white.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 Oh, I am fully aware that these people are holding a dishonest position. They dont give a damn about "saving money" if it means that someone else will benefit whom they do not like. This argument and position is built entirely on their hatred and xenophobia. They would gladly starve themselves if it meant that "those people" would also starve.

Completely insane people quite frankly.

[msc545]

@Syntosi I have actually had patients tell me that if they thought for one moment that they were paying for the healthcare costs of anyone but themselves, they would rather go without health insurance and healthcare than incur those costs. I think this gives some measure of the amount of rage people have when they think there is a remote possibility that somebody else might be benefiting from anything that they are doing or paying for. Without getting too far into this, I will suggest to you that the dog-eat-dog philosophy of capitalism is what actually creates this attitude.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 I dont actually think its capitalism that is at fault. Contributing, maybe, but this appears to be a very "American" problem. Something is fucky with American culture that specifically causes this. Perhaps the unique mixture of personal freedom+personal independence+capitalism?

Either way, its truly demented.

[msc545]

I agree that it is quite demented. It seems to be the scarcity that capitalism creates and the fear of that scarcity that contributes in some ways to this particular attitude. People are always afraid that somebody somewhere somehow is going to take something from them. And although capitalism is supposed to supply an abundance of goods, that does not really seem to be the case. More than anything else, this seems to be the result of a perception that our economy is a zero-sum game. In many ways, it actually is a zero-sum game. There is no abundance except for the very rich, and there is no mercy for anyone.

[Ariesman81]

Sinc we've established that you are willing to incentivize breaking the law, the rest of your so called argument is invalid. You've already established you don't like Americans.

Frankly, @msc545, I believe your biased opinion on this is mostly the problem. Anyone in the health field would stand a great benefit, should the pool of money taxpayers shell out for healthcare be forced to grow... again. Your Democrat plan removes money from Americans and gives it to non Americans... great plan morons!

[msc545]

You've established nothing of the kind.

[msc545]

That renders the remainder of your objections invalid.

[msc545]

You seem to be under the assumption that all I care about is money and unlike conservatives. Although I care about money I care about other things much more like being decent to people.

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 Incentivize breaking the law? What nonsense are you on about?

[Syntosi]

@msc545 I think he believes that the hospital pays the illegal patient or something. Quite frankly, he is not making much sense which is not a surprise.

[msc545]

I am really not sure what he believes. He is a nice guy, and if you just talk to him and don't involve politics, he makes sense. But once it devolves into politics, his discourse seems to devolve into nonsense, sadly.

[Ariesman81]

@msc545

My taxpayer dollars fund the illegals. Mandating that we all use everybody's money to fund people who shouldn't be here is ludicrous. What pooling taxpayer money does is allows insurance companies and providers to do is increase prices as it removes the freedom of individuals to price shop or opt out of benefits all together. The ACA only benefits the poor, insurance companies and providers.

[msc545]

@Ariesman81 your tax dollars fund the war contractors too, in much greater amounts. But you don't seem to be complaining about that for some reason. Why is that?

[Syntosi]

@msc545 Kind of proves the point that he is more offended over the fact that someone else might be benefiting rather than the fact that the alternative is a broken system that gives him nothing at all.

[msc545]

Precisely and arguably that broken system actually increases his level of risk as it does for all of us. Furthermore, that broken system is wrought with fraud which I would think would be more offensive to him yet apparently is not. This is very odd indeed.

[Ariesman81]

@msc545

Yes, I'm fully aware that personal responsibility and free will are foreign concepts to most Democrats.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 And here comes the usual excuses for why he reliably chooses to make the world a worse place under the fear that if something good happened then it could maybe have happened to someone other than himself.

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 If you had a button that you could press to instantly earn 100 dollars, but every time you pressed it an illegal immigrant in your country gains 1 million dollars, would you press the button?

[Ariesman81]

@Syntosi

No. Because I understand that pushing that button means more illegal immigrants will flood the country and force me to push the button. Besides, you make it sound like this money comes from some mythical money tree and there are no consequences for shaking it.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 ... Its worse than I feared.

[msc545]

@Syntosi It is definitely worse than I feared, as well. Although I can see that he's added another variable into the equation or puzzle that you posed that changes the whole thing. If we remove that variable and ask it again, let's see what happens. I'm too tired to formulate it, but I know you can.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 I think that the desperate grasp for fantastical excuses is part of the problem though. He is just going to continue to think of anything that could help support the position that he already decided upon.

[Ariesman81]

Add integrity to the list of concepts foreign to Democrats as well.

[msc545]

Yes, what is odd about it is the fact that those excuses fly directly in the face of known reality. I don't know why he bothers with them because he must know that nobody's going to believe what he says. And yet he says it. Anyway. It's almost as if he's trying to convince himself or something. This is a particularly pernicious way of lying.

[msc545]

I'm going to stick my foot into it. Just a little bit here and ask our friend Ariesman just how much integrity would you mention without any definition? Do you think that Donald Trump and his ilk actually have? Do you think these are people with integrity or is there something else going on with them?

[PrinceAlbert57]

With every ounce of my being. I don’t want my tax dollars going to illegals when there are fellow veterans struggling and Americans struggling.

[msc545]

With every ounce of your being, you might want to consider doing something about all the struggling and maybe stop worrying about a few dollars going to immigrants.

[boundless]

Remove them from the country and cut off all benefits. Freeze their accounts because they have stolen from the American people.

[Miristheiss]

If they are illegal then they should be deported and not get any tax payer money... just a flight back to their homeland.

[DryGermanGuy]

I'd really like to see how an illegal immigrant would manage to enroll in Medicaid.

[DryGermanGuy]

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

[darkcloud1945]

Hell yeah! More and faster, please! Anyone interfering with ICE or hindering them in the performance of their job of removing illegals sentenced for deportation by the courts be arrested and no plea deal sentenced to at least 5 years in jail

[FunkyMonkee]

ABSOBUTTFUCKINGLUTELY!! If I, being a native, can't get it, they shouldn't be able to, either!!

[jazzy34]

Undocumented people don't receive Medicaid, genius. -___-

[worldscolide]

Illegals aren't on Medicare. They are on other programs funded at the state and federal level. But not Medicare.

[Shiprex]

How can undocumented (but taxpaying) people qualify for anything state funded?

[exitseven]

Yes, it shouls be done. and then they should be deported.

[msc545]

You better hope that nobody ever decides to deport chronic liars because if they do, that is going to include you right away.

[exitseven]

@msc545 what do I say that is not true. ?

[msc545]

Every single thing that you utter and write about Trump turns out to be false. You praise him endlessly and you make up lies about his motivation and his behavior that even he denies. You excuse every one of his evil acts and mischaracterize them as being his Goodwill. He has no Good Will.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Give me one actual thing I have said that was not true that was not satirical.

[msc545]

Oh, now you admit that you engaged in lies and in satire. I'm sorry, but I don't find much of what you've been saying lately to be very funny.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Any thing that may not be true has satirical value.

[msc545]

It only has satiric value to you. Not to everyone else.

[exitseven]

@msc545 you have no sense of humor. You probavbly did not see the humor in this either.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m5Xw4TMfDX8

[msc545]

I don't see the humor in your admiration for a convicted murderer and pedophile. Sorry about that.

[Snakeyes7]

100% in fact we should just kick them out and then this wouldn't even be a question and would further reduce costs.

[Anonymous]

why would anyone in their right mind be against this?

[Pterodon]

Absolutely. They never should’ve got it in the first place because they never should’ve gotten in

[JamesRandiDebates]

Remove them from Medicaid and then remove them from my country.

[Kelly6]

They don't get any medicaid you MAGA sheep

[worldscolide]

You're right, they don't get Medicare, but there are certain state and federal programs that they do get, which gives them access to reduced or free health care and free food. An example of this was the debit card program NY did, that give each illegal 2500 per month in cash benefits, and free rooms at various hotels. It's the reason the US government is shut down right now, certain elements of the democrats want said programs to keep going.

[worldscolide]

san.com/.../

[worldscolide]

. I was wrong on the number 1400 per month, not 2500. Sorry. But it was a thing for a while.

[exitseven]

www.healthinsurance.org/.../

They get Medicaid.

[Kelly6]

@exitseven it's not a government website

[exitseven]

No it is from the Health Insurance Institute. Still it explains how illegal aliens get around the law.

[Kelly6]

@exitseven around the law? how is it around the law if government gives them?
you think you know their secret more then fbi? hehe

[Kelly6]

@exitseven your government wasted 100s billions of wars in 2025, and you worry about this.

[exitseven]

@Kelly6 The illegal aliens lie and say they are pregnant , Nobody checks and they get treated for whatever ailment they have and taxpayers are on the hook. Same thing with welfare. Same thing with voting.

[Kelly6]

@exitseven what about waste money on wars, ?

[exitseven]

@Kelly6 Trump got us off the hook with Ukraine. NATO is paying for the war and the US actually is making money by selling NATO the weapons and equipment that Biden was just giving away. Biden just gave Ukraine a blank check for Zalensky's silence.

[Kelly6]

@exitseven lol, i like your dream. lol

[exitseven]

@Kelly6 Itis a dream shared by millions of Americans who want to see America become the greatest country in the world.

[Kelly6]

@exitseven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks8YCtUd26s

[Agape93]

Sure, but they're not on it.

[DrPepper12]

They're not on Medicaid

[KostasKouvalis]

Why are there illegals on medicaid?

[Amur8711]

Illegals shouldn't even be here so of course!

[seeyounexttuesday]

Of course.