Have you seen Trump's response to the murder of Rob and Michelle Reiner?

[goaded]

You might like to make a contribution to this question, which made me laugh my ass off:

Will conservatives cheer the death of Rob Reiner?

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The alternative: "“Rob Reiner’s work has impacted generations of Americans. The characters, dialogue, and visuals he brought to life in film and television are woven throughout our culture. Rob loved our country, cared deeply about the future of our nation, and fought for America’s democracy. Rob and his wife Michele loved each other very much. They were dear friends, and Doug and I are devastated to learn of their passing. Our thoughts are with their loved ones during this tragic time.”

[MisterWack]

I see no condolence, more than I see someone justifying the killing full stop.

”They were so anti Trump that the Trump loving son stabbed him”, completely overlooking Michelle also getting stabbed. This was a tragedy, especially those that want mainstream Woke Hollywood to go back to its classic roots.
When Harry Met Sally, The Princess Bride, Spinal Tap (I watched that one, others are on my watchlist). He was talented in the Hollywood scene.

As always I like to imagine if it were any other president with any other actor or director.

[goaded]

Michele even took the photo for the "Art of the Deal", he'd met her personally.

[MisterWack]

@goaded I did hear about that, the fact he didn’t amazes me.

[MisterWack]

*the fact he didn’t remember

[Twodogs0525]

You and I can agree on this, @goaded I am not only disappointed by Trump's statement but actually sickened. It's indefensible! Especially since Reiner was sincere and sympathetic after Kirk's death. Trump targeted the wrong man! I'm ashamed of him and the people that are trying to defend it.

[CalmUntilAbused]

That's some way to dance on someone's grave... But admittedly, the dance itself is very classy, like a waltz or something. Trump does sound sorrowful about the deaths themselves, but not so much about the identities of the deceased, that's how I'd put it. Though He does compliment Rob Reiner (calling him "a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star" - say what You might, this sounds respectful to me). He obviously noted the TDS, but You know... If it's true, it's not exactly an insult.

Also, I'm seeing in the comments that it was their son who did it. Kind of unsurprising, really. Imagine realizing Your parents criticize the only political leader in the country who does not subscribe to the "young men eat shit and die" narrative (yup, another reference to Shoe0nHead, what can I do, She's just got this amazing way with words). Now, since I'm a Catholic, I would not choose murder as the solution here, but I would pray for my parents to find their way, even knowing full well it can only happen through a traumatic experience, so I don't think I'm much better...

[goaded]

Don't you remember just a few weeks ago when the right was going ape because people were accurately quoting Kirk?

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trump thinks all non-rich, non-straight white men should eat s**t and die.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Find their way as in blowing Trump 24/7/365/366? I of course wouldn't slay my parents were they Trumpsters, but I'd likely disown them.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@beefcakebradybatson Oh, I am pretty far from admiring Trump myself. I do disagree with Him on the topic of Palestine. Though maybe I shouldn't reveal it this easily to give You a bit of a scare... What I mean by "find the way" is realize that, You know... I am a man. The opponents of Trump support an ideology that literally wants me dead just because I am a man. If they do not want to lose their son to a premature death, they should really support Trump over any of His opponents, no matter how many things He might be wrong about. That's all there is to it. Trump might be wrong about some things, but the other side literally wants me dead. Thank You, I prefer Trump to an early death. Ever heard of MATGA? That's what Trump's opponents are like. As a man, it is only logical for me to be a MAGA supporter.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded I think even some leftists (yeah, it's another Shoe0nHead reference) debunked those supposed "accurate Kirk quotes". Even some leftists agreed His take were nothing actually awful. The hateful left is literally seeing everything through the lens of their hatred towards tradition, effective self-defense, men and some more very normal concepts.

[goaded]

There's no way anyone debunked all those quotes. Feel free to show anyone debunking any of these 14, for a start.

www.buzzfeed.com/.../viral-charlie-kirk-quotes

What traditions are you referring to? Slavery? Women being men's property?

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded Whoa, Buzzfeed... Shoe0nHead would have a field day with that one... Anyway, let me rephrase - the outlandishness of those quotes has been debunked. These are average, reasonable takes. I even recognized a few that Shoe0nHead actually brought up and proved were out of context.

[goaded]

So not all of them. What traditions are you referring to? Slavery? Women being men's property?

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded None of those "traditions" are referred in the quotes You provided.

[goaded]

So what traditions are you referring to?

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded How about the sanctity of marriage? You know, like "till death do us part"? How about traditional gender roles (that's not slavery, that's playing to one's strengths)? How about the sanctity of human life? Meaning no abortion and no euthanasia?

[beefcakebradybatson]

A white man of limited brain power, that is.

[goaded]

"till death do us part", even if he beats and rapes you? No thanks. Almost nobody can afford to keep a household on a single paycheck. Increase minimum wage to a living wage and see what happens.

Who is he (or you) to determine what strengths are whose in a relationship? Who are you to decide that conception, rather than quickening or birth, is the moment a person is created? Who are you to decide that that human being has the right to use another human being for months? Who are you to decide what other people do with their bodies?

[beefcakebradybatson]

RIGHT ON, GOADED !!!(The natalists believe a woman's sole roles are wife and mother.)

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded Here we go, rape within marriage... The only rape (partly) within marriage is the divorce rape. If a woman decides to marry a man, it stands to reason she at the very least wants to be intimate with said man. If she marries an erotomaniac, she is still aware of it. There can be no rape in marriage. As for the beatings... They can only happen if people stray from traditional morality, and even then I'd be guessing they would happen mostly to insufferable feminists who have bitten off more they could chew. There is no rational reason to beat up a good, kind woman, and men are almost 100% rational. Minimum wage only hurts the job market for the workers, since some workers are not qualified enough to earn that wage and are therefore dropped from the job market entirely, while they could be hired at a lower wage if it was allowed. The overall cost of living follows the minimum wage, mercilessly cutting off the unemployed. This in turn also increases petty crime rates.

Now, the natural strengths and weaknesses of the sexes are decided by their design (either by God Almighty or "mother nature", whichever You are closer to believe in 🤣). At any rate, it's a simple law of biology and there is no way out of it. The one deciding that a human being begins at conception is God Almighty, supported by simple logic (a living being, with human DNA that is different from his/her mother's). The ones deciding that a human being can "use" another human being for months are the human beings who brought the new human being into existence. That's called responsibility. That's all I'm asking from the people who decide to use their bodies in a certain way. Freedom requires responsibility. If You cannot be held responsible for the consequences of Your free decisions, You simply do not deserve freedom.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@beefcakebradybatson Well, they are definitely their primary roles. If they can juggle those basic roles with some more roles, all the power to them. Being mothers (and realistocally wives, as well) is the bare minimum.

[goaded]

I'll just leave this here: @CalmUntilAbused: "There can be no rape in marriage"

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded Again, it's a matter of responsibility. The decision of marriage should not be taken irresponsibly. I am not saying marriage is all about procreation, though it is its primary purpose, but it should not happen if there is nor even any physical attraction between the spouses.

Now, if Your intention is to "cancel" me, You cannot really do that. Even if everyone on GaG hates me (and that will not happen), I will still be alive. The only thing Your act of setting beacon on me for saying what I said can achieve is uncover those among the GaG users who are incapable of taking responsibility for their actions.

[goaded]

This totally negates anything else you say: @CalmUntilAbused: "There can be no rape in marriage"

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded I do understand You, as well as potentially most people in the West these days, do not understand my point. It is not my fault. Also neither Your wrath nor the wrath of anythone agreeing with You invalidates my point. Seethe all You want, expose my words in any way You like, I do not and I will not take them back.

[goaded]

Oh, I understand you perfectly. You think that because of a decision made possibly years or even decades before, a woman should submit to being raped. That's wrong. You're disgusting and proud of it.

My initial comment was: "till death do us part", even if he beats and rapes you? No thanks.

Take it up a notch, what if he beats and rapes his daughter, should the wife stay with him then, "till death do us part"?

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded The decision in question (marriage) comes with blanket consent to any sexual act. Since rape is defined as an non-non-consensual sexual act, there can be no rape in marriage. It's this simple.

As for Your question about the rape of a daughter (or anyone, really, who can be raped - the wife cannot for the reason I gave above) - yes, the wife should stay with her husband "till death do us part". The twist is if a father rapes his daughter, he should be tried in court and if there is satisfying proof the rape actually happened, he should be sentenced to death. Thus, the "till death do us part" timespan will not last long. How is that for common ground? 😄

[goaded]

Death sentences are also wrong.

Your own words totally negate anything else you say: @CalmUntilAbused: "There can be no rape in marriage" it's wrong. It's disgusting.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded You do realize You are being illogical? If You want to effectively get rid of criminals, You need the ability to administer the death sentence to those who are being arrogant about breaking the law in its most crucial aspects (like murder and rape inside the family - for other cases of rape castration is fine).

As for Your repeated highlighting of my words - I do not change my mind. If anything, You gave me an opportunity to further explain them, potentially restricting the numbers of those who might be shocked by my take.

[goaded]

So you're fine with killing living, breathing people, but not with a couple of cells that aren't wanted, as well as "There can be no rape in marriage" it's wrong. It's disgusting. I really don't think you'll make any supporters.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded I am fine with killing living, breathing convicted criminals. The "couples of cells" are also living, breathing (it's called cellular respiration) people, just innocent. If they were not wanted, they should not be brought into existence. Once they are brought into existence, they have the right to live. If anything, You are the unhinged one for disagreeing with putting down criminals while agreeing to the merciless mass murder of innocent, unborn children. As for the "there is no rape in marriage" part again... I don't think I can explain it better than I already have, but You should really consider not giving me any more chances to do it. The more detailed my explanation, the harder it is to rationally disagree with it, making my stance even stronger.

[goaded]

You really think any "argument" you make for saying a man can't rape his wife is going to convince anyone? That's nuts. Just like thinking the death penalty stops crime or that something you need a microscope to see can be a person.

Can there be no rape in marriage? ↗

[lightbulb27]

Yes. One does have to question the environment their child was raised in. Reiner energy here quite draining (see video). That's some wicked energy... he was TDS... and he said, he hated Trump.

Trump should not have said that, but he often is right, and he might be. Need psych eval of the kid. None of Trumps kids are nuts, so consider that... including 3 marriages/several divorces. Trumps head is deep into god knows what issues and such, he just rolls what what flows into his brain based upon his mood at the moment.

At least you know... nobody else is writing his thoughts... only he could come up with that.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6yAgXBIuAyM

but he makes no amends for it...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/btGir7_tr1E

that's more tactful... Trump has never been a person of diplomacy and tact...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BPTjPrR8J7k

[Twodogs0525]

It's actually counterproductive of Trump to say shit like this. He is literally going from blaming violence on the left, to blaming his supporters?

[lightbulb27]

@Twodogs0525 where he blame his supporters? he's simply saying he never liked the guy, "he isn't gonna say anything nice about him". He talks constantly, and he is whom he is.
It will be a real shock when he's gone and someone else is speaking. Gotta wonder how much damage this is doing to theminds of the young generation and AI being programmed by him. Maybe his mind will be the foundation of the real Terminator in a few generations?

[Twodogs0525]

He said Reiner was killed because of his hatred toward him (Trump).

[lightbulb27]

@Twodogs0525 he does operate in a fantasy world... everything is perception. Delusional?
but psychology of it, possibly related.

[purplepoppy]

I wouldn't be so quick to mock TDS. It's a terrible affliction that has spread like wildfire through academia, the legal profession, the medical profession, and virtually all branches of science. Apparently only wrapping yourself in a Trump approved flag offers any form of protection.

[goaded]

And The Hat!

[exitseven]

Yes, I work at a state college in a very liberal state. The TDS just drips off everyone that works there. I can feel it when I walk across campus.

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven They're talking about you, Exit. LOL It's the cult that has TDS, not the sane rest of the world. LMAO. It's too bad that critical thinking, which is greatly associated with liberals, hasn't rubbed off on you. Have you considered moving to Oklahoma? I mean with your incredibly wealthy portfolio, and the low cost of everything there, wouldn't it be a better match for you? They are #1 in education, sort of, the lack of it.

[exitseven]

@loveslongnails I am more in line with Florida. The state colleges in Florida invite ICE on the campuses and the campus police assist them in arresting illegal aliens. Anytime you see an event in Florida most of the people thee are smiling. The schools in Florida a top notch and do not teach DEI crap. No state income tax ia a plus as well.

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven Exit, you don't even know what DEI means. Yes, you belong in Florida. You belong believing that the colleges are filled with illegal aliens. It's your kind of delusional bubble, and you should live in it.

[exitseven]

@loveslongnails no, you should see the shit that goes on. When Trump was re elected the college president sent out a mass email saying that counseling would be available to anyone who has anxiety about the results of te election. These people are insane

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven Dude... Trump is a vile, disgusting, worthless piece of crap who you worship. The cult is insane. You personally are a total echo box for unsubstantiated and bogus information that you re-spew without any regard for veracity. If you could look beyond the ruse they give you and think things out, we'd have better conversations.

[exitseven]

@loveslongnails DEI means Didn;t Earn It.

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven So, like the entire Trump cabinet right now, correct? Yeah, tell me about their collective intelligence, you buffoon.

[exitseven]

@loveslongnails We have the head of the Dept of Energy a guy who actually knows something about energy, A sec of Defense that actually been deployed.. A Sec of Transportation that hjas experience in large scale infrastructure projects and A sec of Health and Human Services that has navigated around drug companies a shady government agencies. The only less than stellar member of the cabinet is AG Pam Bondi. If Matt Goetz or somebody like former US Attorney Andrew Lelling had been chosen Lames Comet would be on his way to prison now.

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven Have you heard any of them speak? They're all idiots. So Hegseth was deployed? So what? He's an out of control maniac. Did you see the speech he gave to the higher ups? They have zero respect for him, as he deserves. Eisenhower was a General... did it make him a good President? No. Reagan was a damn actor! LOL Was he a good President? Not at all.

The Secretary of Education can't write a sensible letter. RFK knows NOTHING about health, is anti-vaccines that have wiped out diseases in the past and thinks Tylenol causes autism. The new created position of "parole czar" is filled by a woman was an ex-drug dealer, pardoned by Scump, and the first thing she did was release a drug lord whose former country, Honduras, immediately put a bounty on his head! LOL

And you want Matt Gaetz --- the pedo who resigned from Congress so he wouldn't be investigated? That Matt Gaetz? He'd be a perfect addition. Put him in charge of " Sex Trafficking". LOL Well, I'm out of "I can't believe you said that, fucks" for the moment.

[exitseven]

@loveslongnails Did you ever watch a two hour meeting with Biden and his collection of DEI rejects? Oh yeah, that's because it never happened. He had a Sec of Energy that could not answer a simple question like how many barrels of oil does the US consume per day? A Sec of Transportation that was on maternity leave during a crisis and cared more about hiring minorities as air traffic controllers than hiring qualified candidates. A sec of Homeland Security that believed that the border was secure and there were no illegal aliens coming into the country,
Biden bragged that his cabinet was the most diverse in history. It really was nothing to brag about.

[IHaveRespawned]

What very distasteful remarks! Yeah, Rob Reiner may have been among all the leftist loonies, but he and his wife didn't deserve to be brutally murdered! It is an all around tragic situation, especially when it involves a dispute between children/parents. It seems the substance of Trump's remarks is mostly a bitter rant, not really conveying any sincere compassion.

I voted for Trump all three past elections, and lately, I cannot help but to feel as if this is a completely different Trump than the one I supported during his first term. I acknowledge he was rough around the edges during his first term, but this feels different. And, yes, he may have made some great accomplishments during this term so far, but something definitely feels off.

[LongLiveBillGates]

Maybe this finally taught you how foolish you were to be a CONservative vote for Trump. Hopeful this has convinced you to be a liberals and ditch Trump and the Repukeicunts for good.

[IHaveRespawned]

@LongLiveBillGates I am a conservative and always will be. Conservatism is a sociopolitical mindset and ideology, not a political party. There are political parties in other countries actually called the "Conservative Party", but here in the US, you can be conservative and not affiliate with the Republican party.

I have always voted Republican because the Republican party has mostly aligned with conservative ideals, much like the Democratic Party has mostly aligned with liberal (and more recently socialist/communist) ideologies.

I was incredibly tired of all the leftist identity politics and social engineering. I was fuming over the illegal immigration crisis and all the woke, trans bullshit being shoved in our faces. I was angry about the lies, scandles, and the hiding of a cognitively declining president (Xiden).

On the other hand, I haven't been entirely impressed either with Trump's second term so far, and we have some incredible catastrophes on our hands.

[exitseven]

I am not sure if he posted this before or after we found out his son was responsible. Still he should rein it in a little and show some compassion.

[goaded]

He should never have said anything of the sort.

[exitseven]

@goaded maybe he was trying to do damage control in case a conservative was the shooter. You are right though , if he had nothing good to say he should have let it be.

[exitseven]

Or maybe he just remembers when the meathead posted this pathetic rant showing how bad his TDS was.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6yAgXBIuAyM

[LongLiveBillGates]

It's sickening and heartless but unfortunately not at all surprising.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@exitseven To be honest, I do think there is some compassion in this message by Trump. He is a bit playful with His words, but it's not outright mocking, and I don't think He approves of the murder. He does show respect, even if He does make a not of the TDS.

[goaded]

That video is completely accurate.

[AyChingao]

Every thing that ever happens in this world caused by peoples feelings as they relate to Trump. Every thing that ever was was a reaction to the coming of him. People in the 13th century were awared that he would be... and they acted according to their feelings about this.
I suppose there are people as narcissistic as he is. It's very sad, and would often be funny if he weren't real and causing so much pain and hatred. He really is a comic book villain incarnate.

[HighValue]

After so many democrats celebrated Trump getting shot and encouraged more things like that to happen, I have no sympathy for democrats. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you were one celebrating and hoping for more based on your opinions over the years on here.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@HighValue Even so, Trump Himself shoulr be the bigger man... Though I cannot see how He isn't, really. Outside of this one TDS remark, I'd say He is absolutely respectful. He might not be perfect, but after we've seen the Demo (n) crats react to Charlie Kirk's death, they are not the one to be talking. Trump, while not perfect, has been leagues more respectful than them.

[LongLiveBillGates]

Yes it is sickening and heartless just like everything else Don the Con and CONservatives do. Unfortunately it's not surprising at all. Don the Con doesn't even care about the fools that support him. He cares about no one but himself. No wonder he's so pro gun and refused to take covid seriously.

[Snakeyes7]

I think he assumed a bit too much on the cause but I don't think he is saying that Rob and his wife deserved to be murdered, I don't think he is cheering for it either. Simply saying that the event was sad and that him and his wife rests in peace is WAY more sympathetic than I have seen many liberals go for Kirk.

[Alex-Snow]

Incredible the guy is an embarrassment and makes a fool of himself every day. What a sad excuse for a person

[Apostate_______]

I really think now that even most Republicans can see what a soulless, narcissistic dirtbag he is. After this. . . yeah I think a lot of eyes are opened now. They're going to get absolutely obliterated come mid-terms if they don't shut this fucking maniac down. And they can do it if they want to. We'll see if they have the guts or if they plan on being flushed down the shitter next year during mid-terms.

[msc545]

I don't know who wrote that, but it was definitely too articulate to have been Trump. That said, his lousy judgment and rud manners show through by even posting something like that.

[msc545]

I forgot to mention that once again, Trump has proved beyond a shadow of doubt that he is an asshole.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trump has made wealth appear swinish.

[msc545]

@beefcakebradybatson on the contrary, I would argue that wealth has always appeared swinish. It's never looked good.

[beefcakebradybatson]

But Trump has made it look much more vulgar.

[msc545]

@beefcakebradybatson with that, I agree with you.

[AngryCarl2]

I'm surprised he knows who Rob Reiner was. His grasp of trivia is quite impressive. His capacity for compassion, not so much.

[Olivier24]

I think the best thing for him to have said would have been nothing at all. This just comes across as bitter.

[darkcloud1945]

It is almost impossible for some asshole not to find the death of two people related to something TRUMP has said or done in his lifetime. Dimocrats do not disappoint

[goaded]

I don't understand what you are trying to say, but you do realise that this is what Trump said AFTER the murders, right?

[darkcloud1945]

And like everyone else, his remarks are subject to scrutiny and interpretation. As of yet, I have not heard him backtrack his comments either; that said, he has also been misquoted and attributed things he did not say or infer either many, many times, so one out of all of them is not bad. Compare that to the hundreds of lies of the Biden administration

[goaded]

He doubled down on them, of course. There weren't "hundreds of lies of the Biden administration", but there were tens of thousands of documented Trump lies just from his previous administration.

[darkcloud1945]

The Biden years were four years of almost the destruction of our way of life, and we are still trying to get rid of the 20 million lies the Biden administration has said about the borders being closed. So I guess DJT is not the liar you think he is. I only picked one of Biden's thousands of other lies the Biden administration foisted on the nation to try to turn it Communist

[goaded]

Show me one genuine quote saying the borders were closed.

What Biden did, respecting human rights, was get Mexico to move migrants from their northern border to their southern border until they stayed there or went home.

[jshm2]

Trumps dementia is clearly getting worse, he needs to be removed from office.

[OddBeMe]

Almost as bad as saying "shit happens Brown Univ"

[Snowman84]

Only an unscrupulous grifter would try and build political capital off a man’s death. Trump is a man who is incapable of selflessness in anything.

[Sal_Monella]

I may not agree with "reportedly due to the anger he caused" but I do not know the facts. And there is no supporting the murders.

[captain_voidwalker]

After charlie kirk I have no sympathy for your side of the political isle

[goaded]

You mean when people quoted him and Kimmel made a joke about MAGA and you all pretended it was a joke about the murder?

[captain_voidwalker]

No mean when you people shot him when you couldn't win the argument against him

[goaded]

150 million people shot him?

[captain_voidwalker]

No, but 150 million cheered when he got shot

[goaded]

No, they didn't, no matter how much the right want to pretend.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded They did (more or less, the number might be somewhat off). Even Shoe0nHead, an actual leftist, admitted it.

[goaded]

@CalmUntilAbused Most people said "who?". A lot of people pointed out his stated beliefs in response to the right trying to turn him into a saint. Some people might have cheered his death, but not one political leader on the left.

This is Trump being quoted saying they brought their murders on themselves.

I've never heard of "Shoe0nHead", but they wouldn't be the first "left wing" internet influencer to work out where the money is (from the right wing and Russia, e. g. Tim Pool getting paid "$100k per weekly episode").

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded Here's Her video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJENP0Rr8p0

It might not have been exactly 150 million people overall, but the sentiment is clear. Few leftists dared disagree with those demented maniacs and those who did mostly stayed silent, supporting this orgy of hatred.

[goaded]

@CalmUntilAbused God that's long and boring. You claimed: "Shoe0nHead, an actual leftist". Bullshit. She specifically sides with the right near the end of this video.

She names exactly one famous person making (and retracting) one out of context comment in response to a claim that Kirk wasn't at all polarizing, and shows a dozen or so absolute nobodies, half of whom are simply saying they don't care that he's dead. Not being sad a person is dead is a lot different from wanting him shot, and light years away from planning to shoot someone.

Comparing Kirk with his millions of followers to Heather Heyer? Seriously? In a country full of guns and unstable people, pissing people off can be a dangerous occupation, which is why gun control is a good thing. Heather Heyer was not a public figure, she was just someone in a crowd who was murdered.

"All of those likes are a real person"? Really, does anybody believe that?

"Everything I've been called "Nazi", "fascist", or "reactionary" over", followed by a list of her representation of what she was saying - whatever happened to context?

Oh, I love this comment: "They don't kill you because you're a Nazi, they call you a Nazi so they can kill you", which is hilarious coming from the party that has been screaming Socialist or Communist at every politician who attempts to help common people.

"They were left wing, but they were one of the good ones" sounds exactly like something a left-winger would say. Then she says she has all (most of) the same opinions as Charlie did.

Then she pretends that everyone who celebrated Charlie's death (I'm not disputing there were some, but NOT MAJOR POLITICAL LEADERS, like Trump here and the people defending him) are capable or even likely to murder, which is just insane.

She even signs off with the Trump meme “Thank you for your attention to this matter!”.

No wonder you like her, at least when she agrees with you.

[captain_voidwalker]

Pretty sure Destiny and Hasan piker said some heinous shit about the shooting, Destiny eleven openly calling for more violence against other right wing voices

[goaded]

Links? Never mind, here's Hasan Piker as it was going on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVuSVptwA-4
I can't even find someone called Destiny Eleven, so I'm going to assume they're less famous than Kirk or Piker or Trump.

Do you believe that everyone who didn't care that Kirk was shot or pointed out he was the angel the right was painting him as are suddenly going to start gunning people down in the streets?

[captain_voidwalker]

Everyone no, but you have that not so small organization called antifa that has and still is shooting people, ramming cars into ice facilities, burning down police stations and commiting all kinds of heinous shit.

[goaded]

Really? How many people has Antifa shot? Where's the news coverage of all these ongoing crimes?

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded Oh, sorry, I did not realize I was bullying a person with a hearing disfunction... I'm going to put it as straightforward as possible to You. She literally states She does not leave the left, because that's not how it works, since She still believes in leftist ideas... So how did You come to the conclusion She sides with the right wing? She might side with the ones who mourn Charlie Kirk, but not with their views. She does want safety for Her children, as a Mother (that's the only moment when She does sound somewhat right-wing, I guess, given that common sense appears to be right-wing at this point), but She still follows leftist ideas.

Then, You clearly didn't hear the party music in the background of most of the videos She showed - those people were not "not sad" Charlie Kirk was murdered, they were celebrating it. Now... Yes, I believe all those likes were real people... As long as we can call demented maniacs celebrating someone getting murdered "people", but for the sake of integrity regarding my "pro-life" stance, I myself do consider them people. And yes, people who celebrate someone being murdered are very much capable of murder. A quick callback to the main topic of this question, Trump did not go half the way all those demented manics went.

To finish it up - yes, I like Her. She is a leftist, and I like Her. She's the living proof that neither all leftists nor all women are demented. I love Her for that (platonically). I would be much harsher on leftists and women even here on GaG if not for Her. I might even actually dehumanize them. Now, there are some leftists here on GaG I even admitted to agreeing with on certain points - that's Her doing more than mine.

[goaded]

@CalmUntilAbused She believes in sensible economics, which is left wing, but all the culture wars stuff, she's on your side, which is why you like her.

Once again, there is a massive difference between random nobodies on the internet like you and me and the F*cking President of the United States.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@goaded I will disagree about leftist economics being sensible, but yes, she believes in leftist economics. As for the "culture wars", she is literally openly "bi", tentatively "pro-choice" (She wouldn't have an abortion, but She would allow other women to have one)... The only non-leftist thing about Her culturally is that She does not want men dead for being men and She cracks down on the insane feminista who do.

Oh, and as for Your second paragraph... I do agree. Those random nobodies (they would want You dead for calling them nobodies, though, especially since some of them were actually professors, nurses, doctors...) are many and they are vicious in their call for more violence. The President of the United States is a single human being who's already under some fire, and He's actually being mostly respectful to the victims, praising their life achievements and all, only making that little note about TDS, which wasn't even false, as far as I got to know.

[goaded]

@CalmUntilAbused There are gay, black, and latino MAGA Republicans. They're all idiots.

Nobodies on the internet are people who don't have thousands of millions of followers, it doesn't matter how important they are in real life. No, they wouldn't want me dead, because I don't try to hurt people with my speech, and no, they're not calling for more violence, they just don't care that much about what happens to people whose words encourage violence against others.

"mostly respectful" my ass, two thirds of the message was about himself. Keeping quiet would have been respectful, calling a victim tortured and struggling is not, making it all about yourself is not.

[ABC1x1x]

Yes. Based. Killed by his own child. Poetic. What a cunt

[blackeagle007]

What a shocker, Trump always interjects himself

[Friendlybro79]

What a miserable loser to write that.

[dougeats]

He's just a low life

[loveslongnails]

The guy is an absolute douche nugget.

[Still-alive]

Yup his brain is beyond cooked

[beefcakebradybatson]

Typical drivel from an ignorant blowhard.

[Shiprex]

Trump is a fool